In the link i wonder what recent dna evidence they are talking about.
This?
Quote- In February 2010, the results of DNA tests confirmed that he was the son of Akhenaten (mummy KV55) and Akhenaten's sister and wife (mummy KV35YL), whose name is unknown but whose remains are positively identified as "The Younger Lady" mummy found in KV35.
Quote- An academic study which included DNA profiling of some of the related male mummies of the 18th Dynasty of Egypt was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2010. Tutankhamun's Y-DNA haplogroup was not published in the academic paper.[29][30][31] In 2011 iGENEA, a Swiss personal genomics company selling genealogical DNA tests, claimed to have reconstructed King Tut's Y-DNA profile based on some screencaps from a Discovery Channel documentary about the study. iGENEA claims that King Tut belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup R1b1a. Members of the research team that conducted the academic study published in 2010 stated they had not been consulted by iGENEA before they published the haplogroup information and described iGENEA's claims as "unscientific".
Quote-
Scientists at a Zurich-based DNA genealogy centre, iGENEA, in a in Discovery Channel documentary 2011 claimed that Tutankhamun had Haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50% of European men, but less than 1% of modern-day Egyptians belong to.
But the Y-chromosome of King Tut has never been published and DNA profile displayed in Discovery Channel documentary may not belong to the Pharaoh. According to Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's University of Tübingen who was part of the team that unraveled Tut's DNA from samples taken from his mummy and mummies of his family members, iGENEA's claims are "simply impossible."
R1b does show up in parts of northern Africa, particularly some regions in Algeria, where tests have found it in 11.8% of subjects.[19] It is also found in central Africa around Chad and Cameroon,[20] but the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1c (R-V88).
or this?
AryanPrideWorldWide21
quote:
I know this subject is played out, and the case is closed. But, what I discovered below really has bothered me, and ruined my day. Please forgive me for this. No bad intentions were intended.
Also, you guys remember King Tut's DNA and bust that were on Nat Geo, or the Discovery Channel? It has been revealed that it was a hoax. It was proven to be "unscientific". Even people who were part of the DNA test have came out and admitted to it. King Tut Related to Half of European Men? Maybe Not | Personal Genomics | Tutankhamen's Relatives | LiveScience http://www.livescience.com/15388-discovery-channel-tutankhamen-dna.html
I am proud to be White , and I don't claim anything other than White. No Indians, Arabs, Ethiopians, East Africans, or any other so called "Caucasians". As much as I would like to claim Ancient Egypt as a "WHITE SOCIETY". All of this proof Black Egypt keeps adding up. You've these DNA test, disgraceful Whites coming out admitting to they're lies, and even our own Greek Historians that described the Ancient Egyptians and Ethiopians as Black. I've always wondered why Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalians, and Sudanese resembled Ancient Egyptians so much. Could they be the descendants from when the Romans, Arabs, and Turks invaded and they migrated South?? I am almost losing hope. My son brought this info to my attention, and I did more research on it. It all adds up, and I'm discussed. You guys take a look at this below and you be the judge of things.
Take a look at this that was found in Ramses Tomb. A classification of races in Ancient Egypt after foreign invasions. There are 2 particalar groups with Dark skin complexion. 1) The really Black ones that are Nubians. 2) The brown dark skin ones that are The Ancient Egyptians. The rest of them are Semites, Asiatics, etc. Us Whites would be put in those categories. Because, if those atual Brown Dark skinned Ancient Egyptians are really White, why do they look different from the others??
quote:Originally posted by Firewall: In the link i wonder what recent dna evidence they are talking about.
This?
In February 2010, the results of DNA tests confirmed that he was the son of Akhenaten (mummy KV55) and Akhenaten's sister and wife (mummy KV35YL), whose name is unknown but whose remains are positively identified as "The Younger Lady" mummy found in KV35.
Quote- An academic study which included DNA profiling of some of the related male mummies of the 18th Dynasty of Egypt was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2010. Tutankhamun's Y-DNA haplogroup was not published in the academic paper.[29][30][31] In 2011 iGENEA, a Swiss personal genomics company selling genealogical DNA tests, claimed to have reconstructed King Tut's Y-DNA profile based on some screencaps from a Discovery Channel documentary about the study. iGENEA claims that King Tut belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup R1b1a. Members of the research team that conducted the academic study published in 2010 stated they had not been consulted by iGENEA before they published the haplogroup information and described iGENEA's claims as "unscientific".
Quote-
Scientists at a Zurich-based DNA genealogy centre, iGENEA, in a in Discovery Channel documentary 2011 claimed that Tutankhamun had Haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50% of European men, but less than 1% of modern-day Egyptians belong to.
Those people are Dutch tourists in Egypt. Tourists can dress up like this and get photographed.
And of course the biggest riddle ever?
Why is it halve Europeans don't carry the Sickle Cell disease?
quote: King Tut died from sickle-cell disease, not malaria
King Tutankhamun died from sickle-cell disease, not malaria, say experts. A team from Hamburg's Bernhard Noct Institute for Tropical Medicine (BNI) claim the disease is a far likelier cause of death than the combination of bone disorders and malaria put forward by Egyptian experts earlier this year.
The BNI team argues that theories offered by Egyptian experts, led by antiquities tsar Zahi Hawass, are based on data that can be interpreted otherwise. They say further analysis of the data will confirm or deny their work. Hawass' claim, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association this February, and followed by a swarm of accompanying television shows, claimed King Tut suffered from Kohler's disease, a bone disorder prohibiting blood flow, before succumbing to malaria.
Multiple bone disorders, including one in Tutankhamun's left foot, led to the Kohler's diagnosis, while segments of a malarial parasite were found via DNA testing. Yet the BNI team claims the latter results are incorrect. “Malaria in combination with Köhler's disease causing Tutankhamun's early death seems unlikely to us,” say Prof Christian Meyer and Dr Christian Timmann.
Instead the BNI team feels sickle-cell disease (SCD), a genetic blood disorder, is a more likely reason for the Pharaoh's death aged just 19. The disease occurs in 9 to 22 per cent of people living in the Egyptian oases, and gives a better chance of surviving malaria; the infestation halted by sickled cells.
They say the disease occurs frequently in malarial regions like the River Nile, and that it would account for the bone defects found on his body.
“The genetic predisposition for (SCD) can be found in regions where malaria frequently occurs, including ancient and modern Egypt.” says Meyer. “The disease can only manifest itself when a sickle cell trait is inherited from both parents: it is a so-called 'recessive inheritance'.” A family tree for the Pharaoh suggested by Hawass himself appears to back the BNI team's case.
The relatively old age of Tutankhamun's parents and relatives – up to 50 years – means they could very well have carried sickle-cell traits, and could therefore have been highly resistant to malaria. The high likelihood that King Tut's parents were siblings means he could have inherited the sickle cell trait from both and suffered from SCD.
“Sickle-cell disease is an important differential diagnosis: one that existing DNA material can probably confirm or rule out,” conclude Timmann and Meyer. They suggest that further testing of ancient Egyptian royal mummies should bear their conclusions in mind.
King Tut's young demise has long been a source of speculation. As well as malaria, recent decades have seen scholars argue that he was murdered, and that he died from infection caused by a broken leg.
I never cease to be amazed at the diversity of projects that come through the studio.
Paleontology, Archeology, Forensic reconstruction modern reproductions. We have done a bit of it all. A few months back the National Geographic Society and AEG (Art and exhibition, approached me to create a model of the mummy of Tutankhamun. It was a short time frame with some complex logistics. The mummy had been CT scanned and so we had to process that information into the correct file format in order to send it to a 3-D printer. The trick was to find a company that could rapid prototype the mummy in the most accurate way possible. (with in the very short time frame.)
After a bit of intense deliberation I decided to use the medical imaging software company "Materialise" a corporation headquartered in Belgium, with branches in the US. They were able to interpret the CT data and begin the prototype of the model. While they were working on the prototype I flew to Luxor, Egypt to the Valley of the Kings to gather reference information and photograph the mummy in it's tomb. A surreal experience to be sure. When I returned my studio assistant Owen Bissex and I sculpted in the fine details of skin fabric and Bruce Wendorff built the display tray for the Mummy out of imported Beech wood.
Gary Staab probably doesn't know that Tut was tropical adapted in body plans. While Gary himself is cold adapted in body plans.
Ancient Egyptians even painted his real color complexion, on his very own Thorn. Gary, are you familiar with King Tuts very own Thorn? Look delusional Gary, this is what it looks like.
quote: Determination of optimal rehydration, fixation and staining methods for histological and "immunohistochemical analysis of mummified soft tissues"
A-M Mekota1, M Vermehren Department of Biology I, Biodiversity Research/Anthropology1and Department of Veterinary Anatomy II2, Ludwig-Maximilians University Munich, Germany
Submitted January 8, 2002; revised May 4, 2004; accepted August 12, 2004
Abstract
During an excavation headed by the German Institute for Archaeology, Cairo, at the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt, three types of tissues from different mummies were sampled to compare 13 well known rehydration methods for mummified tissue with three newly developed methods. Furthermore, three fixatives were tested with each of the rehydration fluids.
Meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and a placenta were used for this study. The rehydration and fixation procedures were uniform for all methods.
Materials and methods
In 1997, the German Institute for Archaeology headed an excavation of the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt. At this time, three types of tissues were sampled from different mummies: meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and placenta. Archaeological findings suggest that the mummies dated from the New Kingdom (approxi- mately 1550-1080 BC).
Skin
Skin sections showed particularly good tissue preservation, although cellular outlines were never distinct. Although much of the epidermis had already separated from the dermis, the remaining epidermis often was preserved well (Fig. 1).
The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of Negroid origin. In the dermis, the hair follicles, hair, and sebaceous and sweat glands were readily apparent (Fig. 2). Blood vessels, but no red blood cells, and small peripheral nerves were identified unambiguously (Fig. 3). The subcutaneous layer showed loose connective tissue fibers attached to the dermis, and fat cell remnants were observed.
To evaluate the influence of postmortum tissue decay by micro-organisms, the samples were tested for the presence of fungi using silver staining.
Biotechnic & Histochemistry 2005, 80(1): 7Á/13
Delusional Gary, your replica should have looked like these Egyptian (African) boys. But you refused, Gary. Why the hell Gary...why?
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
"Physical anthropologists are increasingly concluding that racial definitions are the culturally defined product of selective perception and should be replaced in biological terms by the study of populations and clines. Consequently, any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depend on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as 'blacks' while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans ." Source: Donald Redford (2001) The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt, Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p. 27-28
I wonder how many African-Americans will be chosen to represent Ancient Egyptians...
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
Indeed. Probably few, or none at all. All these black celebs with cash should fund efforts to put out a more balanced picture.National Geog and similar are able to dominate the field in part because there are no credible alternatives that can reach the mainstream media in quantity. A high quality TV show, DVD series and book would be a good start- no doubt costing several thousand, but such would be chump change to Orpah, "Hova" or Diddy.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
^Tyler Perry finale could do something really moving.
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
Personally, I think the King Tut series will have "many" African-Americans as main characters and figurants/extras. But still an overwhelming minority compared to the real thing. They often do it even for TV series set in ancient Rome. With Ancient Egypt being in Africa and everything, there will probably be more African people there. Still it will probably be a far cry for the actual situation as pointed by the Oxford encyclopedia, Diop, Obenga, anthropological, linguistic, cultural and recent DNA analysis like this one and those posted above:
quote:"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies (table 1); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2)."
This being the modern distribution of E1b1a descendant (now often referred as E-M2) and (thus) widely present in modern West Africans and Bantu people:
It's wait and see, I guess. Nonetheless, it will be a great series to look out for. Special effects and CGI now allow to create very elaborate worlds even in (lower budget) TV series.
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
quote:Originally posted by Firewall:
AryanPrideWorldWide21
quote:
I know this subject is played out, and the case is closed. But, what I discovered below really has bothered me, and ruined my day. Please forgive me for this. No bad intentions were intended.
Also, you guys remember King Tut's DNA and bust that were on Nat Geo, or the Discovery Channel? It has been revealed that it was a hoax. It was proven to be "unscientific". Even people who were part of the DNA test have came out and admitted to it. King Tut Related to Half of European Men? Maybe Not | Personal Genomics | Tutankhamen's Relatives | LiveScience http://www.livescience.com/15388-discovery-channel-tutankhamen-dna.html
I am proud to be White , and I don't claim anything other than White. No Indians, Arabs, Ethiopians, East Africans, or any other so called "Caucasians". As much as I would like to claim Ancient Egypt as a "WHITE SOCIETY". All of this proof Black Egypt keeps adding up. You've these DNA test, disgraceful Whites coming out admitting to they're lies, and even our own Greek Historians that described the Ancient Egyptians and Ethiopians as Black. I've always wondered why Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalians, and Sudanese resembled Ancient Egyptians so much. Could they be the descendants from when the Romans, Arabs, and Turks invaded and they migrated South?? I am almost losing hope. My son brought this info to my attention, and I did more research on it. It all adds up, and I'm discussed. You guys take a look at this below and you be the judge of things.
Take a look at this that was found in Ramses Tomb. A classification of races in Ancient Egypt after foreign invasions. There are 2 particalar groups with Dark skin complexion. 1) The really Black ones that are Nubians. 2) The brown dark skin ones that are The Ancient Egyptians. The rest of them are Semites, Asiatics, etc. Us Whites would be put in those categories. Because, if those atual Brown Dark skinned Ancient Egyptians are really White, why do they look different from the others??
How could I have missed this??? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: FRIDAY, JUNE 18, 2010
Return of the King (boy king that is)
I never cease to be amazed at the diversity of projects that come through the studio.
Paleontology, Archeology, Forensic reconstruction modern reproductions. We have done a bit of it all. A few months back the National Geographic Society and AEG (Art and exhibition, approached me to create a model of the mummy of Tutankhamun. It was a short time frame with some complex logistics. The mummy had been CT scanned and so we had to process that information into the correct file format in order to send it to a 3-D printer. The trick was to find a company that could rapid prototype the mummy in the most accurate way possible. (with in the very short time frame.)
After a bit of intense deliberation I decided to use the medical imaging software company "Materialise" a corporation headquartered in Belgium, with branches in the US. They were able to interpret the CT data and begin the prototype of the model. While they were working on the prototype I flew to Luxor, Egypt to the Valley of the Kings to gather reference information and photograph the mummy in it's tomb. A surreal experience to be sure. When I returned my studio assistant Owen Bissex and I sculpted in the fine details of skin fabric and Bruce Wendorff built the display tray for the Mummy out of imported Beech wood.
Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Gary Staab probably doesn't know that Tut was tropical adapted in body plans. While Gary himself is cold adapted in body plans.
Ancient Egyptians even painted his real color complexion, on his very own Thorn. Gary, are you familiar with King Tuts very own Thorn? Look delusional Gary, this is what it looks like.
Delusional Gary, your replica should have looked like these Egyptian (African) boys. But you refused, Gary. Why the hell Gary...why?
A computed tomography (CT) scan uses X-rays to make detailed pictures of structures inside of the body. The computer modelers used a CT scan of the mummy on computer to print a full sized 3D model in transparent plastic. 3D printers print objects by building up many very thin layers on top of each other until a three dimensional form is created. After the model was created by this mechanical process, the transparent plastic model was given to Gary Staab who put color and texture on it to make it look realistic.
(why I'm needed)
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
^I already have elaborated on it. But you deconstructed my post. This is why in your delusion you think you've posted something special, as if "you are needed".
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: ^i have already elaborated on it. But you deconstructed my post.
the elaboration you made has nothing to do with the reconstruction.
I was addressing the reconstruction.
I don't quote whole posts if I can help it because it's repetative and make sthe forum less pleasant to read. I only quote the parts relevent to the point I'm making
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: ^i have already elaborated on it. But you deconstructed my post.
the elaboration you made has nothing to do with the reconstruction.
I was addressing the reconstruction
The elaboration has everything to do with the reconstruction, you dumb ass.
It explains the elaborations of the phenotype, you dumb racist euronut.
And this has nothing to do with you quoting whole posts, but merely selective nuances to support your continuous Eurocentric lies.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: ^i have already elaborated on it. But you deconstructed my post.
the elaboration you made has nothing to do with the reconstruction.
I was addressing the reconstruction
The elaboration has everything to do with the reconstruction, you dumb as.
It explains the elaborations of the phenotype, you dumb racist euronut.
you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: ^i have already elaborated on it. But you deconstructed my post.
the elaboration you made has nothing to do with the reconstruction.
I was addressing the reconstruction
The elaboration has everything to do with the reconstruction, you dumb as.
It explains the elaborations of the phenotype, you dumb racist euronut.
you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
Funny, since I brought it back to the fundamentals.
I posted to most likelihood 99%. You fetch on 1% for over 4 years now. How pathetic of a euronut racist you are.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
On all grounds I elaborated, meaning from different disciplines, I've posted peer reviewed studies. Up to the most simplest comparisons.
Closes matches show to Southern Egyptians, likelihood is 99% match.
So the mean question is, why do some try to white wash him, into something he wasn't and isn't? Why so you try to white wash AE into something to weren't and aren't ?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
On all ground I elaborated, meaning from different disciplines.
Closes matches show to Southern Egyptians, likelihood is 99% match.
You said due to the reconstruction of the Mummy of Tutankhamun that Gary Staab who was involved in the finishing of it probably didn't know that Tut was tropical adapted in body plans.
But the body plan of the reconstruction matches the proportions of the mummy
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you were critical of the reconstruction but had no grounds to be.
On all ground I elaborated, meaning from different disciplines.
Closes matches show to Southern Egyptians, likelihood is 99% match.
You said due to the reconstruction of the Mummy of Tutankhamun that Gary Staab probably didn't know that Tut was tropical adapted in body plans.
But the body plan of the reconstruction matches the proportions of the mummy
Yes, I did. Say he likely is unaware of this.
I also posted pictures along of Southern Egyptians who show closes matches to the Throne depiction. Of the boy King who's burial was found in the South of Egypt.
I also posted along a study on pigmentation of ancient Egyptian mummies.
And I posted hundreds of times the tropical adapted body positions of ancient Egyptians.
So the question still stands, why trying to whitewash?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: Yes, I did. Say he likely is unaware of this.
why would he be unaware it?
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: Yes, I did. Say he likely is unaware of this.
why would he be unaware it?
As I have posted before, why trying to whitewash the boy King, King Tut? Why...why...why?
Why don't you understand that I have responded to the O.P.'s opening posts.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: Yes, I did. Say he likely is unaware of this.
why would he be unaware it?
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: Yes, I did. Say he likely is unaware of this.
why would he be unaware it?
As I have posted before, why trying to whitewash the boy King, King Tut? Why...why...why?
Why don't you understand that I have responded to the O.P.'s opening posts. Do you even understand this part, impostor African American woman?
Why implying he was something else other then what Southern Egyptians look like, to who the boy King shows most likeness, 99%.
Why iterating your euronut rant?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ racist exposed, trying to change the topic
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ racist exposed, trying to change the topic
Yes, the racism you express has been exposed.
Since you are a lying euronut, who is trying to whitewash ancient Egypt. (KMT). And steal African history. As you have tried for over 4 years now.
But, look how you defend European history with tooth and nail.
It was you who was trying to corrupted the subject, as you always do.
We know that Southern Egyptians show closest match to ancient Egyptians. From different biological aspects. So why still the whitewashing? Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
this kid looks a little similar
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
this kid looks a little similar
Fact is, you dumb euronut.
Those boys from Southern Egypt show similarity in overall comparison. And there are thousands of them. Not for example the East Indian boy you've trolled the forum with as suppose him to show the closets match.
The reason why I post pictures of these boys is to show that indeed it is in support of what peer reviewed studies tell us.
And you are not the owner of that picture, so legally you don't have the right to cut up that picture.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
No, they don't. They look East African. And I have posted supported science as comparison. For the boy King, King Tut.
So your continues trolling can be flushed down...
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
this looks kind of similar
Posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate (Member # 20039) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
this kid looks a little similar
And which kids, look similar to this one (Tutankhamun third coffin):
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
many of the Southern Egypt kids you posted look mixed
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
this looks kind of similar
You have been reduced to trolling the forum. This is the best thing you can do ever.
Try to figure out, his age. In the statue comparison. Yep, that's right.
See, I have posted the throne of the boy King, King Tut. Specifically for a mandatory reason. It shows him in his all his glory. Including the melanin substance.
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
Those kids do not look Indian...They look like Ethiopians or Northern Sudanese people.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
you should be happy now I took your sources and matched then to Tut, we are now on the same accord
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
Those kids do not look Indian...They look like Ethiopians or Northern Sudanese people.
Actually Southern Egyptians can see differences between a Ethiopian and themselves. They may see some similarities.
When I was in Egypt some took me for Egyptian, however, in the North they thought I was from Saudi Arabia or something...in Southern Egypt they sometimes thought I was from further South, North Sudan.
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
Those kids do not look Indian...They look like Ethiopians or Northern Sudanese people.
Actually a Souther Egyptians can see differences between a Ethiopian and themselves. They may see some similarities.
When I was in Egypt some took me for Egyptian, however, in the North they thought I was from Saudi Arabia or something...in Southern Egypt they sometimes taught I was from further South, North Sudan.
Interesting...My sister was mistaken for a Egyptian when she lived in Egypt. But I know Upper Egyptians, Nubians, Ethiopians and Somalis are of Northeast African stock, but they do have there distant looks.
Also your two ethnicity's could pass for Southern Egyptian imo. So I am not surprised that you were mistaken as Egyptian. Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you should be happy now I took your sources and matched then to Tut, we are now on the same accord
Are we suppose to be happy you've showed a bust similar to a boy from Southern Egypt?
Your "philanthropic" actions?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] you should be happy now I took your sources and matched then to Tut, we are now on the same accord
Are we suppose to be happy you've showed a bust similar to a boy from Southern Egypt?
yes, all rejoice
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^^ this kid looks similar to the Indian kid
Those kids do not look Indian...They look like Ethiopians or Northern Sudanese people.
Actually a Southeren Egyptians can see differences between a Ethiopian and themselves. They may see some similarities.
When I was in Egypt some took me for Egyptian, however, in the North they thought I was from Saudi Arabia or something...in Southern Egypt they sometimes taught I was from further South, North Sudan.
Interesting...My sister was mistaken for a Egyptian when she lived in Egypt. But I know Upper Egyptians, Nubians, Ethiopians and Somalis are of Northeast African stock, but they do have there distant looks.
Also your two ethnicity's could pass for Southern Egyptian imo. So I am not surprised that you were mistaken as Egyptian.
Another funny experience was, children called me Ramses.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] you should be happy now I took your sources and matched then to Tut, we are now on the same accord
Are we suppose to be happy you've showed a bust similar to a boy from Southern Egypt?
yes, all rejoice
So this means, the debate has ended. And you will stop ranting on whitewashing ancient Egypt from now on. "Good girl".
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: So this means, the debate has ended. And you will stop ranting on whitewashing ancient Egypt from now on. "Good girl".
And you will stop making misinformed remarks about the reconstruction of the mummy?
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor: yes, all rejoice
So this means, the debate has ended. And you will stop ranting on whitewashing ancient Egypt from now on. "Good girl".
And you stop making misinformed remarks about
quote: the reconstruction of the mummy?
Again, I have responded to what the O.P., Seeking, posted on the "SPIKE TV: KING TUT SERIES".
Therefore it's not misinformed, but correcting the whitewashing and misinformation, as suggesting a white ancient Egypt. Go figure!
It's funny how you can't comprehend half of the story. Yet, you are here to defend your euronut theories. Laughable at best.
Yeah I also seen Truthcentric on page 10. How did they get his info? They were saying some F'ed up things about him.
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
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Posted by Firewall (Member # 20331) on :
Fox orders sexy ancient Egypt fantasy drama
Fox has given a series order to a hugely ambitious fantasy project set in ancient Egypt.
Titled Hieroglyph, the action-drama series “follows a notorious thief who is plucked from prison to serve the Pharoah, navigating palace intrigue, seductive concubines, criminal underbellies and even a few divine sorcerers.”
“We wanted to do a show about deceit, sex, intrigue in the court and fantastical goings-on – no better place to set that than ancient Egypt,” said Fox’s chairman of entertainment Kevin Reilly.
Fox has ordered 13 episode of the drama, which is produced by Peter Chernin and Katherine Pope, along with Travis Beacham (Pacific Rim, Clash of the Titans), who wrote the pilot script. “Travis Beacham has an inventive mind, and he has wrapped this all together in this intoxicating new drama,” Reilly said.
With the potentially expensive exotic backdrop and emphasis on sexy story elements, Hieroglyph sounds like the type of project that you would more likely see on a pay cable network more than a broadcast network. But broadcasters have grown weary seeing cable get all the buzzy dramas (and sometimes surprisingly large chunks of ratings, with shows like AMC’s The Walking Dead).
What do you think? We’re excited for this, though that title Hieroglyph is a bit of a mouthful. Game of Pyramids?
lioness productions
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: .
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
Okay...Someone said Spike TV looked at RECENT DNA studies of King Tut. Are they talking about DNAtribes/JAMA study? Because that is much more RECENT than that bogus fails King Tut being Rb1..
I mean there any DNA studies that were done in King Tut that I do not know about? Because again King Tut being R1b has been publicly debunked.
Also any cast? Because once the cast is known, that will be the deciding factor if I even watch this show.
@Troll Patrol
Can't lie...She's banging.
Posted by Doug M (Member # 7650) on :
Anybody who believes European television producers will put on a story about ancient Egypt with non European looking people is beyond help. After all of the years that Egyptsearch has persisted, even in its current vastly watered down state, it should be obvious that Europeans don't care about facts. European scientists will make up facts in order to suit their own theories. The whole history of Egyptology itself is about Europeans making up facts to suit their own agenda. When it comes to Egypt and Europeans science NEVER comes into the equation. It is ALWAYS propaganda and as long as Europeans dominate the field of Egyptology and the funding of it and the writing of the history it will always be this way.
For example, note that Nina Jablonski posted her own made up facts recently about the skin color of the ancient Egyptians. Now I said many years ago on this forum that European scientists cannot be trusted to tell the truth. A lot of people here thought otherwise. Well, the facts are clear now and as I said then, you cannot trust these people to tell the truth. They are liars and thieves and you cannot expect truth from liars and thieves.
quote: By Early Dynastic times, the societies of Egypt and Nubia were structured, and people could be identified by class. Pharaohs and their queens were worshipped as divine beings and surrounded by nobles, who in turn served by scribes. Peasants and serfs made up most of the rest of the population. They worked the lands owned by the pharaoh or the nobility on a sharecropping system. Because they could not be bought or sold, serfs were not slaves, but they were nonetheless bound to the land. Between seasons in the fields, they were drafted to build the massive pyramids and other monumental architecture throughout the Nile Valley. Slaves constituted a separate class of Egyptian and Nubian societies that included the captives of war. When fortresses fell after the successful sieges, people were captured, along with livestock, and enslaved by the victors. Siege warfare resulting in the taking of slaves within and between Egypt and Nubia was common from the late Predynastic period onward. Slaves were considered the property of the gods and the pharaoh: they could not be bought or sold privately. They were put to work as cooks, weavers, and field hands. Some joined the peasants as laborers on monumental constructions. Because most of them worked with serfs, they ended up marrying them and becoming sharecropping serfs themselves.
Slaves and peasants alike worked outside most of the time and would have been exposed to moderate to high levels of UVR on seasonal basis, depending on whether they were closer to the mouth of the Nile Delta in Lower Egypt or the confluence of the White and Blue Niles in Upper Nubia. Those with moderate levels of genetically determined pigmentation (primarily from Lower and Upper Egypt) would have tanned heavily and looked considerably darker than the pharaohs and nobility. More darkly pigmented peasants and serfs (mostly from Upper Nubia) would have become darker than those who were exposed to less UVR, but the difference between the outdoor workers and the privileged upper classes would have been less noticeable. The visual diversity of population centers increased as contacts became more common between Egypt and Nubia and then between Greater Egypt, Palestine and Libya.
Now you know for a fact that all ancient societies had servants, serfs and slaves. But do you notice that when talking about ancient Babylon, Sumer, Assyria, Rome or Greece the subject is almost never given emphasis, if ever mentioned at all, even though slavery and serfdom were more prevalent and more savage in those cultures than Egypt? However, WHENEVER Europeans talk about ancient KMT, the FIRST thing they mention is slaves and serfs. Now why is that? Propaganda. Because of course the slaves were the "dark people" and the "lighter skinned" pharaohs were on top. This same narrative is the hallmark of white supremacist discourse on ancient Egypt. And as usual, the scientists who support this will MAKE UP facts to support it. Nowhere in any ancient Egyptian art do you see the degrees of color based on indoor/outdoor activities that she mentions. Nowhere do you see pharaohs depicted in different complexions than those outdoors. So as you can tell, these are made up facts to support a white supremacist narrative. There is no evidence to support any of this. It is all made up "theory". But she presents it as absolute truth, with no evidence of any kind.
Note that historically those European scholars who dared tell the truth or more of the truth than most are labeled as outcasts. And those who don't want to be labeled as outcasts will toe the party line. A good example of this is Robert Bauval who now has a book about Imhotep being a black African.
I mean seriously, these people have made up and will continue to make up an imaginary vision of ancient Egypt as long as they have the power and wealth to do so. Their vision is what you call modern movies and TV shows along with their books and reconstructions. Those are the images that they worship as a way of "invoking" the KA of ancient entities that never existed. It is their way of bringing lies to life.
Now how on earth can anyone sit here and explain how a ancient white society would worship a jet black god with a big erect penis? Seriously. Can you imagine white folks or arabs doing this? Of course not and therefore don't expect any of this to show up in their FANTASY WORLD vision of ancient Egypt. No temples, with big black gods with black penises. Nope. No temples with big pictures of black folks. Nope. Just more made up stories with no historical basis in fact other than the name to link it to Egypt. Can you imagine doing a movie about ancient Rome without marble palaces and Temples? Of course not. But only in Egypt where they claim the Egyptians were obsessed with the gods can they make up such nonsense.
And of course the obvious implication of this diety is that the SEED of all humans came from Africa, which has now been confirmed by science. This statue and most of the statues and deities from Egypt reflected very ancient cosmological, biological and scientific truths that had long been known in Africa before Egypt even came along..... so obviously they don't want to show that.
And to put it into context as to why they cannot show this image or these deities in their proper context, see the following passage which basically inherits the same symbolism of "the seed" having to do with human lineages, genes, semen, genetics, history, power and the basis of authority over the land....
Genesis 12:7 "And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him."
Posted by Firewall (Member # 20331) on :
The Nubians were the first Egyptologist.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Firewall: The Nubians were the first Egyptologist.
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