Amsterdam - Egypt's renowned pharaoh Tutankhamun most likely played marble games, Leiden University in the Netherlands said in a statement on Tuesday.
Pieter Lus, a student at Leiden's Egyptology department, recently discovered what he said was a unique papyrus manuscript at a Cairo market.
The painting shows children playing with marbles. One of them is most likely young Tutankhamun, who became Egypt's ruler as a 9-year-old.
"We already knew that marble games originated in Egypt," said Lus who found the manuscript containing several paintings at a stall selling antique books in Cairo.
"But we did not know the game was already played during the time of Tutankhamun."
"So far, we have not found any marbles yet, but the question is of course how to recognise a marble. Nowadays, one can buy the most magnificent marbles, but at the time they were nothing but round stones," he added.
It was the first time such a large papyrus manuscript has been discovered, the scholar said. It was most likely produced towards the end of the child pharaoh's life, who died circa 1323 BC.
The manuscript was apparently stolen from the pharaoh's grave in 1922 when British archaeologist Howard Carter discovered his tomb, and many other archaeological artifacts were stolen also.
Leiden University's Egyptology student association uploaded a picture of the manuscript in question on their website. - Sapa-dpa
Actually that supposed image of an 18th dynasty papyrus does not look authentic and certainly does NOT match the style of most late 18th dynasty/19th dynasty artwork.
Most especially the little tufts of hair that are on the front of the heads of the males. Definitely a sign of possible forgery or a mislabeled image. Looks more like something from the late period than anything of Tutankhamen's.
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
Aww, Doug!
Ya beat me to it!
Yesterday I was trying to search for some pictures of this toy in addition to a couple really cool ancient pics I had, but gave up.
May post 'em later.
One might have been in a book I read 'bout Egyptian life.
Posted by Honi B (Member # 12991) on :
I thought perhaps this was some sort of April Fools post. Other than the 'hair tuffs' Doug M speaks of that don't fit the orig. style, the woman on the papyrus looks to be wearing 'elbow length' white gloves! haha!! Did someone forget to color the arms and hands in or is this susppose to some type of symbolism?
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
Yeah. They look like little arab boys not little "east African" boys. No prognathism, long flowing hair instead of wigs, curled up hair (Ha! Ha!), arm skin color is not the same as the face.
Yep the boys are outof place. Very un-African.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
DougM, you believe the papyrus is a fake? Hony B mentions it looks more like an April fool's day joke??!!
If it's true I am sorry I was posting it on here. I'll be more careful in the future.
Please let the Egyptology department of the Leiden University know your concerns. Dutch people speak excellent English!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Guys, I believe you are right!!
Tutankhamun discovery is April 1 fool's joke
Amsterdam - No unique discovery of an ancient papyrus manuscript has been made, Maarten Raven, Director of Royal Museum for Antiquities in Leiden told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa Tuesday.
Raven was named as a source by Pieter Lus, 30-year-old Dutch Egyptolgy student.
Lus claimed he made "a unique discovery" two weeks ago while on vacation in Leiden and was studying the material under Raven's supervision.
A press statement of the "discovery" was published by the Egyptology student association on its website www.dispuutpleyte.nl. The statement included a phone number and said the press could contact Lus for more information Tuesday afternoon.
When asked by dpa how he knew the manuscript was indeed authentic and ancient, Lus remained vague.
He refused to say where the manuscript was located at present, explaining that "it still had to be studied further."
Asked which Egyptologist was involved in the research, Lus named Maarten Raven, chief researcher at the RMO in Leiden.
Raven told dpa that he wan unaware of any discovery of a papyrus manuscript.//dpa
That was a good one.
Posted by Ebony Allen (Member # 12771) on :
I wonder what else people have lied about.
Posted by Jo Nongowa (Member # 14918) on :
Yes, Ebony Allen.
A thought provoking question.
Therefore, always do your own research on a matter; and never hold prejudices as to the sources that can be accessed, in order to verify or authenticate a matter.
Peace
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
Found the book, pics comin' Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
Whoops, in my original post I thought Doug had posted some toy pics of his own.
I forgot about this thread.
quote:Originally posted by Doug M: Most especially the little tufts of hair that are on the front of the heads of the males. Definitely a sign of possible forgery or a mislabeled image. Looks more like something from the late period than anything of Tutankhamen's.
I noticed this too.
Though I surely haven't seen as much of the art as have you, Image Master, I've seen my fair share and that was def. something new.
quote:Originally posted by Honi B: I thought perhaps this was some sort of April Fools post. Other than the 'hair tuffs' Doug M speaks of that don't fit the orig. style, the woman on the papyrus looks to be wearing 'elbow length' white gloves! haha!! Did someone forget to color the arms and hands in or is this susppose to some type of symbolism?
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Raven told dpa that he wan unaware of any discovery of a papyrus manuscript.//dpa
quote:Originally posted by Doug M: I knew something wasn't right.
That was a good one.
lol.
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
Here's something on Kemet's toys and games for the kiddiez..
The oldest toys ever found in Egypt, little toy boats carved from wood, came from a child's tomb dating to the Predynastic Period. From the same period baked clay animals and rattles have been discovered.
Lovely toys were made by the ancient Egyptians from wood, bone, ivory, ceramics and stone. Little children played with dolls of people, toy animals, spinning tops and mechanical toys like crocodiles with moving jaws and Jumping Jacks. At el Lisht a toy made up of three carved ivory dancers was found. The figures were set in an ivory stand and could be made to spin by pulling strings.
Ancient Egyptian children played with many toys. One of the more popular ones was balls made of hollow painted clay and filled with seeds. They played ball games standing, jumping high in the air, or even piggyback. Some of the games likely may have resembled hackey-sack. These games were popular, especially with girls.
Dolls were made out of wood, with twine threaded with clay beads for hair. These were called paddle dolls. They may have been for children, or they also may have been to accompany the deceased in the afterlife.
Toy animals with moving parts were very popular. A wooden toy mouse had a pull string to make the tail go up and dowm. Toy horses were popular in Roman Egypt because horses were used for hunting and in battle. A carved cat or lion was popular for its movable lower jaw on a string. Toys were almost always made of wood and/or clay. Tops, though, were made of powdered quartz that was shaped in a mold. Paddle dolls were made of wood and had a paddle-like shape that was decorated with paint and with hair made out of clay beads strung on twine.
Tops were made of powdered quartz put in a mold and then glazed. These were inexpensive and therefore could be found in most poor homes. They spun by pulling a string or twisting fingers. Popular games for children were leapfrog and tug-of-war.
Children in poor families could play with tops because they were very cheap to buy. A ball or rattle could probably be made of clay from the Nile. Wooden dolls or animals were more expensive.
Ancient gyptians had a lot of games. Some were for fitness and others were for fun. Hockey was played with long palm tree branches. The puck was made out of stuffed papyrus in-between two pieces of leather.
Some games were played with implements, balls being the most popular among them. With rubber unknown, balls were made of a leather skin filled with chaff, dry papyrus reeds tied tightly together, string or rags.
Boys again preferred team sports (like the hockey like game in the left margin), while girls generally went in for games which were less fiercely competitive. Marble games are very ancient. A white and a black stone marble and three little stones forming an arch seem to have been used in one such game which may have been played like a sort of mini-skittles.
Boys played a spear throwing game in which one had to hit a target drawn on the ground, called after the god of the wine-press, Shezmu.
Ouija
Another board game was Ouija. Ouija boards are Ancient Egyptian luck boards. They were used to tell the future.
Many people think that Ouija is an evil spirit. I have played Ouija many times and I'm here to tell you that he is nothing to be afraid of.
Its wierd to have your hands being pulled around a board, but it certainly isn't dangerous.
Sometimes Ouija does wierd things, like zapping all over the board and landing on yes or no instead of just moving to one.
The way Ouija works is this: Two people place the board on their knees.
A heart-shaped "table" is placed on the board. The two people place all
fingers and their thumbs on the table. The first question you always ask is, "Ouija, are you there?" and he answers yes, or doesn't answer at all.
The snake game, 'Mehen':
Board games were popular with Egyptians of all ages and all social classes. A favourite during the Old Kingdom was Mehen , the game of the snake which was played on a one-legged table. The board bore the picture of a coiled snake, either carved or inlaid. The body of the snake was divided into squares. Up to six players used three lions, three lionesses, white and red spheres, which were ranged in a box when the game was over. One of the first Ancient Egyptian games ever found was Snake. The stone board represented a snake coiled with its head in the centre. The winner was the first person who moved their piece from the snake's tail to its head in the centre. Like all other ancient Egyptian games, its rules are unknown. More than a dozen sets of this game were found in first dynasty tombs, two of them with beautifully carved ivory lions and lionesses. With them other objects were found: some like little ivory houses with pointed roofs, some looking like todays' chess king and rook. Other pieces were cylindrical, with a little sphere on top.
Quite interesting, how often human societies will carry similar traits in spite of the distances of time, political dynamics, cultural dynamics, or even space.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
LOL I knew there was something wrong the second I saw the papyrus sketch!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
*sticking my head back into the sand again*
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