So I understand people on this site believe Egypt was originally inhabited by black but then overriden by Arabs and others. So what about the other North African countries such as Tunisa, Algeria, Morrocco and Libya? Why are the majority there middle eastern looking just like Egypt. So you are saying most of North Africa population was conviniently changed to comprise of mostly Middle eastern looking people over a few thousand years and the blacks that were there have all but gone?
Posted by Still_Not_Done (Member # 14230) on :
First, what in the world is "Middle Eastern looking"? Go ahead and provide us a legitimate definition of that.
Second, haven't you heard of immigration? Your concocted "Middle Eastern looking" (Turks,etc.) people are not indigenous to that area they migrated there.
Africans from other regions are not going to migrate to those areas in wholesale fashion like those "Middle Eastern looking" people. They are already where they want to be. They don't want to leave their green lands for a desert.
Third, the indigenous people are still there. You just won't see them on TV.
Fourth, these people were not driven or overriden from North Africa. That nonsense comes from the caterwauling victim mama drama queens.
The Europeans were able to conquer these "Middle Eastern looking" people alot easier than they could indigenous Africans. In fact they were taking their lands in the late 17 and early 1800s.
There are also writings about how they were afraid to confront the indigenous peoples of Africa. There is also a writing on how it was the machine gun that made it possible to make any headway in their fight against the indigenous Africans. This was in the 1880s and 90s I remind you.
Fifth, these modern day national boundaries and governments are the work of Europeans who formed the boundaries and setup the initial governments. Which in many cases these governments initially did not include indigenous Africans.
Posted by rasol (Member # 4592) on :
quote:So you are saying most of North Africa population was conviniently changed to comprise of mostly Middle eastern looking people.
^ Are you saying that North Africa was mostly uninhabited until it settled by "middle eastern" looking people?
Here is comment from two geneticists:
A predominantly neolithic origin for Y-chromosomal DNA variation in North Africa - Barbarra Arredi.
The original population of the sahara, was Black - Cavelli Sforza.
Please cite sources disputing the above?
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Indeed blacks are indigenous to *all* of Africa and not confined to "Sub-Sahara". In fact the Sahara was not always a desert but was once green and fertile, but even after it did dry out were some populations able to adapt and survive in the desert let alone north of it!
Thus blacks are still found today in North African countries:
Moroccans
Algerians
Tunisian
The majority of North Africans you call "Middle-Eastern" looking are actually mixed and look like Latin Americans like Puerto-Ricans who have significant black ancestry.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ But then again, that includes Egyptians. Furthermore, many people in the 'Middle East' themselves are also mixed including (surprise or not) Arabs!
Posted by Mystery Solver (Member # 9033) on :
quote:Originally posted by waypey:
So I understand people on this site believe Egypt was originally inhabited by black but then overriden by Arabs and others.
"Overriden" is a funny choice of word; more like "modified" in a 'clinal' manner, wherein as one moves from south to north, there is an ascending gradient of markers deemed to have been introduced from outside the Nile Valley through the Sinai corridor.
quote:waypey:
So what about the other North African countries such as Tunisa, Algeria, Morrocco and Libya? Why are the majority there middle eastern looking just like Egypt.
You were already asked about what "middle eastern looking" entails; a perfectly valid question asked many times on this site, but consistently greeted with non-answers. You might be the first person to change that status quo.
quote:waypey:
So you are saying most of North Africa population was conviniently changed to comprise of mostly Middle eastern looking people over a few thousand years and the blacks that were there have all but gone?
Where might have they gone; what objective evidence has incited you into believing that they left or "have all gone"?
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ LOL See my posts posts above and you can see they haven't "gone" anywhere, Waypey.
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