'Racist' Tintin is banished to the adult section of bookshops By COLIN FERNANDEZ - More by this author » Last updated at 09:02am on 12th July 2007
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His comic adventures battling Communists, pirates and villains of all kinds have enchanted generations of children and adults.
Now Tintin has come up against his toughest foe yet - the forces of political correctness.
The Commission for Racial Equality has called for the comic hero's adventure Tintin in the Congo to be banned.
A spokesman said: 'This book contains imagery and words of hideous racial prejudice, where the "savage natives" look like monkeys and talk like imbeciles.'
Not for children: Tintin in the Congo
The commission demanded the ban after a complaint by David Enright, 40, a human rights lawyer, who saw the book on sale in the children's section at a branch of the Borders bookshop chain.
Now Borders have said it was moving the book - which was first published in 1931 - from the children's to the adult graphic novels section of all its stores.
The controversy comes as Tintin is poised to find even more popularity. Steven Spielberg has announced plans for a film about the cartoon reporter, who is famous for his blond quiff and trusty terrier, Snowy. Mr Enright was with his black African wife and two sons when he discovered the tale of diamond smuggling on sale at a Borders store in London Colney, Hertfordshire, last month.
He said he was 'aghast' and his wife was 'speechless'. He spoke to the manager who told him it was on sale as a collector's item but agreed to withdraw it from display. In a letter of complaint, he said: 'You are promoting white supremacist ideas and ideals through your promotion of a book which seeks to demonstrate that a white child is more mentally and physically advanced than black male adults.
'Indeed, the book shows Tintin's dog, Snowy, being crowned king by the black people. You are promoting the racists' view that black people are disposed to violence and must be led, guided and commanded by white people and even dogs.'
Mr Enright, who also wrote to two police forces, said the book could be regarded as 'inciting racial hatred'.
However, the demand for a ban was criticised by Michael Farr, a former Africabased foreign correspondent who has written a biography of Tintin's creator Herge, real name Georges Remi.
'It's nonsense,' he said. 'I had many African friends, and the Africans love the book. It is the number one selling Tintin book in Africa. I think it's ridiculous that Britain in particular is so politically correct about it.'
He said that Herge had apologised for the book, calling it a 'sin of his youth' --both for the portrayal of Africans and the 'wholesale killing of wildlife'.
web page Posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh* (Member # 13372) on :
Commission for Racial Equality? I thought race didn't exist smh.
I have never heard of TinTin, judging by the art this must be before my time. It doesn't surprise me that the Jew Spielberg will make yet another movie defaming blacks like he did in Amistad as most Jewish directors and producers just get a kick out of.
Posted by Tyrannosaurus (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh*: Commission for Racial Equality? I thought race didn't exist smh.
I have never heard of TinTin, judging by the art this must be before my time. It doesn't surprise me that the Jew Spielberg will make yet another movie defaming blacks like he did in Amistad as most Jewish directors and producers just get a kick out of.
Since when in the lunacy of your mind did Amistad defame black people? In fact, since when did YOU start caring about "nigs"? Was it when you found out you were one of them?
Let me guess, you didn't see because you didn't WISH to see. Ah, well that makes everything fine then.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
Anyway, I don't know what the big deal is. Tintin like 'Tarzan' was an olden day white man's fantasy of the 'civilized' explorer encountering "black savages". It is just that-- a fantasy. Of course for some, such a fantasy is thought of as reality.
Posted by Mystery Solver (Member # 9033) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
Anyway, I don't know what the big deal is.
I've read several of these Tintin adventure comics [by Herge] back in the days, along with Asterix and Obelisk adventures [by Uderzo & Goscinny], and in both of these French publications, I've come across these 'clown-looking' archetypes of blacks, who were supposedly in the European world and in Africa. I too had found these caricatures of blacks disturbing, regardless of how entertaining the comics might be. So what's the big deal? The big deal, according to the article, is this:
Not for children: Tintin in the Congo
The commission demanded the ban after a complaint by David Enright, 40, a human rights lawyer, who saw the book on sale in the children's section at a branch of the Borders bookshop chain.
Now Borders have said it was moving the book - which was first published in 1931 - from the children's to the adult graphic novels section of all its stores...
In a letter of complaint, he said: 'You are promoting white supremacist ideas and ideals through your promotion of a book which seeks to demonstrate that a white child is more mentally and physically advanced than black male adults...
Mr Enright, who also wrote to two police forces, said the book could be regarded as 'inciting racial hatred'.
^So, I deduce that social conditioning, particularly at early age, seems to be the big deal to Mr. Enright.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
And for further proof of Jew Spielberg financially supporting films defaming blacks (like his adopted black son for instance) click here or you can start at the beginning here.
quote:Originally posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh*: It doesn't surprise me that the Jew Spielberg will make yet another movie defaming blacks like he did in Amistad as most Jewish directors and producers just get a kick out of.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Indeed. Another example of Vida erroneous babble.
To Mystery: when I said asked what is the big, I knew it was a bid deal back then when these comics were pretty much the norm in 'educating'/initiating young people into racist ways. But today, I'm sure most people understand the racism of these old comics.
Posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh* (Member # 13372) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: And for further proof of Jew Spielberg financially supporting films defaming blacks (like his adopted black son for instance) click here or you can start at the beginning here.
quote:Originally posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh*: It doesn't surprise me that the Jew Spielberg will make yet another movie defaming blacks like he did in Amistad as most Jewish directors and producers just get a kick out of.
So because he adopted a black kid that means he didn't defame blacks in a movie?!?! I didn't say he was a racist.
So Alktruri, is it the job of a black Jew to defend white Jews at all costs?? I don't understand.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
Obtuse to the max. Go read the damn links.
The job is to teach dumb-asses too lazy to read and research for themselves that a family of 70 people who couldn't tell their brother/uncle apart from any Egyptian that Israel was BLACK in Egypt and BEAUTIFUL in Egypt, left it as a nation and to this day still has its original BLACK n BEAUTIFUL phenotype as confirmed by the Lachish ossuary cranium and Sennacherib's reliefs of the Y*hudhiym/Judahites/Jews of Lachish as retained in some of the Teimaniym from the Yemen, the Beta Israel of Ethiopia, the Bene Israel of India, the Qamnuri of Takrur, the Daggatun of the Sahara, the Lamlam along the inland Niger delta, the Bafur of Mauritania, the Mayomba of Angola, the Lemba of southeast Africa, the Djuka of Suriname, and the other black Sephardic Jews of the Western Hemisphere, the Abayudaya of Uganda, the Sefwi Wiawso of Ghana, some Igbo of Nigeria, the Emo yo Quaim of Benin, and anywhere else Jews were dispersed in Black Man's/Woman's lands instead of pale peoples countries.
Posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh* (Member # 13372) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Obtuse to the max. Go read the damn links.
The job is to teach dumb-asses too lazy to read and research for themselves that a family of 70 people who couldn't tell their brother/uncle apart from any Egyptian that Israel was BLACK in Egypt and BEAUTIFUL in Egypt, left it as a nation and to this day still has its original BLACK n BEAUTIFUL phenotype as confirmed by the Lachish ossuary cranium and Sennacherib's reliefs of the Y*hudhiym/Judahites/Jews of Lachish as retained in some of the Teimaniym from the Yemen, the Beta Israel of Ethiopia, the Bene Israel of India, the Qamnuri of Takrur, the Daggatun of the Sahara, the Lamlam along the inland Niger delta, the Bafur of Mauritania, the Mayomba of Angola, the Lemba of southeast Africa, the Djuka of Suriname, and the other black Sephardic Jews of the Western Hemisphere, the Abayudaya of Uganda, the Sefwi Wiawso of Ghana, some Igbo of Nigeria, the Emo yo Quaim of Benin, and anywhere else Jews were dispersed in Black Man's/Woman's lands instead of pale peoples countries.
*scratching head* When was there every an Isreali kingdom in ancient times and when was Israel ever seen as black to anyone in the world let alone Egypt? A king Solomon a king David? This is all myth man, so why are you posting convert Jews that are black? I don't think anyone has made the declaration that there are no modern Black Jewish converts etc.
The issue is this for example the first Christians being Ebionites, I don't see any blacks claiming that they are descendants of the original Christian Ebionites. This doesn't mean that there aren't millions of black Christians around the world. Many of these black Jews keep saying they are descendants of something connecting them to Biblical stories. THis is the point of contention NOT whether there are black Jews or not.
Posted by Mystery Solver (Member # 9033) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
To Mystery: when I said asked what is the big, I knew it was a bid deal back then when these comics were pretty much the norm in 'educating'/initiating young people into racist ways. But today, I'm sure most people understand the racism of these old comics.
Again, you misunderstood my reply. What does it say? People don't necessarily buy kids comic books so much for educational purposes, as opposed to entertainment purposes. However, the depictions in these comics come along with themes that could consciously and/or sub-consciously be implanted into a young developing mind. It is called social conditioning. A grown up, and an apparenty already socially-seasoned adult, may well be more conscious enough to know how to approach something from the entertainment media, without much of it having an overall impact on how the person behaves or preceives things in society, in terms of drastically altering what the said adult is already accustomed to. Children [especially younger ones], on the other hand, are usually going through the development phase, gathering patterns of social behavior and thought from parents, older siblings, peers and the entertainment media. Thus, they are more susceptible to being socially conditioned to behave and think in certain ways later on in life, as a result of "early" social conditioning.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
Obtuse and ignorant in addition to hateful.
Sennacherib's document of his conquest of the Kingdom of Y*hudah. The art as well as the reports on the crania in Lachish's ossuary prove the blackness of the Jews of that time period as well as their factual non-mythical existance.
Every schooled child knows the historical existance of the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah. The Assyrians left records of their conquests of both kingdoms. Shalmaneser's obelisk depicts Yehu ben Omri kissing his feet, while Sennacherib's throne room has eight panels illustrating his conquest leaving us no doubt about these Jews' phenotype.
some of the Teimaniym from the Yemen, the Beta Israel of Ethiopia, the Bene Israel of India, the Qamnuri of Takrur, the Daggatun of the Sahara, the Lamlam along the inland Niger delta, the Bafur of Mauritania, the Mayomba of Angola, the Lemba of southeast Africa, the Djuka of Suriname, and the other black Sephardic Jews of the Western Hemisphere, the Abayudaya of Uganda, the Sefwi Wiawso of Ghana, some Igbo of Nigeria, the Emo yo Quaim of Benin,
and anywhere else Jews were dispersed in Black Man's/Woman's lands instead of pale peoples countries.
*scratching ass* When was there every an Isreali kingdom in ancient times and when was Israel ever seen as black to anyone in the world let alone Egypt? [ ] This is all myth man, so why are you posting convert Jews that are black?
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Many of these black Jews keep saying they are descendants of something connecting them to Biblical stories. THis is the point of contention NOT whether there are black Jews or not.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mystery Solver: Again, you misunderstood my reply. What does it say? People don't necessarily buy kids comic books so much for educational purposes, as opposed to entertainment purposes. However, the depictions in these comics come along with themes that could consciously and/or sub-consciously be implanted into a young developing mind. It is called social conditioning. A grown up, and an apparenty already socially-seasoned adult, may well be more conscious enough to know how to approach something from the entertainment media, without much of it having an overall impact on how the person behaves or preceives things in society, in terms of drastically altering what the said adult is already accustomed to. Children [especially younger ones], on the other hand, are usually going through the development phase, gathering patterns of social behavior and thought from parents, older siblings, peers and the entertainment media. Thus, they are more susceptible to being socially conditioned to behave and think in certain ways later on in life, as a result of "early" social conditioning.
^ But that is what I meant by "educating" or "initiating", is exactly conditioning. Every person should know by now, that such comics are nothing more than racist rubbish! Who still buys comics like that for their kids except racists? Better yet, why is old racist garbage like that still sold.
That reminds me, Warner Bros. sure has come a long way if you compare it today with back then.
Here is a little known Looney Tunes cartoon that an African American friend of mine sent me:
To Vida: Was there such a thing as 'black Jews'? Well, we have Lachish remains which represent the early kingdom of Judah, as well as the remains of a people called the Natufians who inhabited the Levant area even earlier during the epipaleolithic.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
Fact is, in the ancient world there were a people called the LeukoSyrians -- and thus Syrians were not white, less no need to prefix leuco to the name.
We have a couple of accounts from Greco-Latin authors as to the blackness of the Jews of their times which was just before white converts altered the original dark colour of the Hebrews.
But all this really belongs in an appropriately titled thread of its own.
Posted by Mystery Solver (Member # 9033) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
Every person should know by now, that such comics are nothing more than racist rubbish! Who still buys comics like that for their kids except racists?
Adults who don't see themselves as racist, at least not consciously, may think that they are buying such comics for entertainment purposes only, just as kids in many households are allowed to watch violent cartoons, presumably because they simply entertain. After all, cartoons are usually just meant to be funny or lighthearted caricatures who can do just about anything practically impossible. As another example, take for instance, kids watching indoor 'wrestling' on TV or accompanying adults to live wresting shows, only to later on be tempted to imitate the acts of these shows. As adults, most of us can read these comics for what they are, as entertainment primarily, and not be impacted by them in any meaningful way. If we, as adults, are already racist or otherwise, then not much will alter this. And so, some adults presume that children will be receptive in the same way, as long as they have 'proper' home bringing. However, this sort of calculation can be a mistake, since young children can subconsciously be influenced to some degree or another by themes in the entertainment media. Think of some of those kids who've committed regrettable violence on other kids, by imitating what they saw in the entertainment media.
quote:Djehuti:
Better yet, why is old racist garbage like that still sold.
Because they continue to sell.
Posted by Nice Vidadavida *sigh* (Member # 13372) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Fact is, in the ancient world there were a people called the LeukoSyrians -- and thus Syrians were not white, less no need to prefix leuco to the name.
We have a couple of accounts from Greco-Latin authors as to the blackness of the Jews of their times which was just before white converts altered the original dark colour of the Hebrews.
But all this really belongs in an appropriately titled thread of its own.
Go ahead and start the thread I think it would be a good one to dispell of this bible stuff..I am game for it Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
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