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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [QB] Your entire gripe in your post is over the use of the [b]word[/b] "Negroid". Y'all mofo's take [b]PC[/b] to an entire new level. I'm started to get suspicious as to why some of you all are so avid on denying the existence of this distinctive African group that belongs to the "Niger-Congo" language family language and whom Keita referred to as being characterized by the M2 lineage and broad facial feature (Ketia 2005). I try to refrain from referring to these people as "West Africans" because they were not always Africans! They came from North and East Africa along the Nile Valley (Sudan and Kemet/Egypt). This is according to the oral traditions of all of these sub-groups. Why the Hell is the fact that this groups Y-DNA (the M2 lineage) traces back to North and East Africa so overlooked by people on this forum. The common sense is just like...gone! Below is a further explanation of my use of and definition of the [b]word[/b]. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [IMG]http://oi57.tinypic.com/2ldevc1.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]The fact that "Tigreans" are included in the definition of "Negroid" in this instance undermines what I'm saying. The definition of "Negroid" has varied, because scholars in the past have tried to make this exclusively the black classification. Depending on their intent, they would narrow the definition to "true negroid" or included the vast populations of Sub Saharan Africa as such (the latter likely because of our common black skin tone ranges/ and were just being honest in calling them all variations of "black"). In this case the author included the vast populations of Sub Saharan Africa as "Negroid" and highlighted the diversity as a result of doing such. None the less it doesn't negate that Tigreans (which were used above) are physically distinct from the "true Negroid" populations noted as "Niger-Congo" in both Brace's and those same "Niger-Congo" or "Sub Saharan" (as opposed to Northeast African samples) later reiterated in Ricaut's study: [IMG]http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo160/brandonpilcher/dendrogram2.jpg[/IMG] Their (Tigrean) affinity (generally Horner) has been noted as a primary affinity with Pre-Dynastic Egypt just as the "Negroid" Bantu (Niger-Congo outshoot), but also to be distinct from them within that purple primary affinity box outlined. The Niger-Congo (Bantu) speakers group are considered the "core" or so called "true Negroid" (now called "Sub Saharan African") group in these analysis unless stated otherwise. All of this below points to a distinct group of African: [IMG]http://oi58.tinypic.com/ay3dyd.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.languagesgulper.com/eng/Niger_files/droppedImage.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Distribution_of_haplogroup_e1b1a_in_Rosa_2007.jpg[/IMG] What is the identity of this distinct group of black Africans? What is the name of our group? "Niger-Congo speakers"? We don't seem to have an identity, and when people hint at our identity some people have been taught to see any noted distinction of our special brand of black African as "insulting" (because of perceived ignorance of indigenous African diversity). [/QUOTE]Also Zaharan on the ancient Nubian language, you already know my stance on the bullshit (fake/Western devised plot) "Afro-Asiatic" language family. [IMG]http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/369/obenga03.gif[/IMG] Let this renown African scholar (who actually speaks African languages unlike the Western linguist who devised their BS theory) Dr. Theophile Obenga explain why, and [i]sooo[/i] simply (you can't argue with common sense)! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81dn2MwGq4Q So your language counter-argument is just more silliness. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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