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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: ^This disingenuous troll sees his claim of dental continuity between Mesolithic and holocene Nubians go down the drain[/QUOTE]What tf are you talking about? "This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa,[b]from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene, and diffused northward to the Levant and Anatolia beginning in the Mesolithic[/b] ... the study of Brace et al. (2005), which clearly shows that the cranial morphology of prehistoric and recent northeast African populations is linked to sub-Saharan populations ([b]Niger-Congo populations[/b]). These results support the hypothesis that some of [b]the Paleolithic-early Holocene populations from northeast Africa were probably descendants of sub-Saharan ancestral populations[/b] " Ricaut 2009 Now who else proposed that "Niger-Congo populations" (with special emphasis on the Bantu branch) originated in Northeastern Africa (Sudan) and expanded northward into Egypt (and Levant (Natufians))? [IMG]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt_files/image008.jpg[/IMG] Did you know that there are Hieroglyphs which confirm the northward migration of the "Bantu" (which means "the people" or "people") [IMG]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt_files/image002.gif[/IMG] BATU, THE BANTU Oh wow! You also missed the pivotal words prior to the Italicized below: [QUOTE]Anderson’s (1968) argument, then, Irish and Turner (1990) argued for [b]some degree[/b] of [i]genetic discontinuity between Pleistocene and Holocene Nubians[/i] --Holliday [/QUOTE]"Some degree" clearly indicates that there was also "some degree" of biological continuity between the two time periods in this region, just like Ricaut and Brace found. [QUOTE] Context? You said that Jebel Sahabans had African-specific and Iron Age Senegalese specific-affinities. None of which is borne out of Irish' work or Holliday's work. [/QUOTE]Iron age West Africans and modern West Africans are of the same affinity..."Negroid"! They are "Negroid" just like the Badari, Kerma, Neolithic Maghreb populations, and Waldi Halfa (which was found to have the closest resemblance to "Jebel Sahaba" samples) were found to be: [QUOTE] "In the sum, the results obtained further strengthen the results from previous analyses. The affinities between Nazlet Khater, MSA, and Khoisan and Khoisan related groups re-emerges.In addition it is possible to detect a separation between North African and sub-saharan populations, with [b]the Neolithic Saharan population from Hasi el Abiod and the Egyptian Badarian group being closely affiliated with modern Negroid groups[/b]. Similarly, the Epipaleolithic populations from Site 117 and [b]Wadi Halfa are also affiliated with sub-Saharan LSA, Iron Age and "modern Negroid" groups[/b] rather than with contemporaneous North African populations such as Taforalt and the Ibero-maurusian." ---Pierre M. Vermeersch in Palaeolithic quarrying sites in Upper and Middle Egypt [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] West African- specific phenotypes don't have dual relationships with European Upper Palaeolithic or Ibero-Maurusian remains.[/QUOTE]...really? "[b]Early Europeans still resembled modern tropical peoples - some resemble modern Australian and Africans,[/b] more than modern Europeans.. Nor does the picture get any clearer when we move on to the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans. [b]Some were more like present-day Australians or Africans, judged by objective anatomical observations.[/b] " (Christopher Stringer, Robin McKie (1998). African Exodus. Macmillan, p. 162) The mentioning of the broad featured "Australians" (once considered "Negroid" in early anthropology) demonstrates that the Africans that he's talking about about were also "broad featured". [QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi:. They (ancient Northeast Africans of the Nile Valley and the fertile crescent) were closest in affinity to the Niger-Congo speakers. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [b]Stop lying[/b]. Your excerpt only says Niger Congo have a phenotype that is linked to that of Egyptians-- something I've never denied. The excerpt never says the two phenotypes are mutually inclusive, let alone that either is a descendant of the other.[/QUOTE]"Stop lying" where tf am I lying? Bitch are you blind? The exert is clearly equating the "Sub Saharan" African samples to "Niger-Congo" populations, who have a uniformly (with the exception of Tutsi and Fulani) phenotype which was once deemed "true negroid": [IMG]http://oi59.tinypic.com/29f6nuu.jpg[/IMG] Tell me what other population on Earth has this "Sub Saharan" "Niger-Congo" aka "Negroid" skull shape? [IMG]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/negskull.gif[/IMG] Pleistocene Nubian skull: [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-at9A_hxt52s/UGep32QEi4I/AAAAAAAAbcg/dLXXbqjQp7o/s1600/sahaba9pn.jpg[/IMG] Amenhotep III [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/KV55_scull.jpg[/IMG] What other population on Earth has this phenotype (dictated entirely by this skull shape)? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: You bolded the affinity towards Cro-Magnon but you ignored the statement directly behind which completely undermined those findings.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: How does the observation in question undermine those findings? Watch as total silence will ensue from your end because you simply do not know what the phuck you're talking about, and you will not be able to back your claim up, which we will see in your next reply.[/QUOTE]Or I can just re-post the exert which you completely ignored in this silly ass rant above. "Yet he also noted that they shared certain features with the Cro- Magnons, particularly with regard to cranial superstructures.[b]However, he found that features more prone to show environmental effects[/b] " The bolded stated negates your early emphasis of a relationship between Pleistocene Nubians and Cro-Magnon based on this evidence. [QUOTE] Lol. Me saying that none of the migrations that went towards West Africa from the Sudan region had the forest-adapted specific phenotype, has nothing to do with the subject? Really? SMH. [/QUOTE]"Forrest adapted"? GTFO. Tell everyone what "forest" or region did these E baring- M2 lineage carrying populations adapt in? Where did they go from that point on, since the features had to have originated in forest. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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