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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: When we know that there are indigenous black Libyans that have lived in the region for centuries and do show up on the walls in Egypt. [/QUOTE]If you go to Libya today and see a dark skinned berber or a light skinned berber You can't tell by looking how far their ancestry goes back in that region. They are a very nomadic people and intermingling has been going on continuously from both the Levant, Africa south of Libya and Southern Europe. You can't just look at any berber and assume that they have deep ancestry in ancient Libya. [/QUOTE]You can certainly do this maybe not from pictures but certainly from archeology and genetic cross-referencing origin like the Haratin, Tubu, ...etc(who are indigenous to Maghreb) among other African ethnic groups that get called "Sub-Saharan" African. Most these peoples used to most likely live in North Africa but had become nomadic either before or after the drying of the Green Sahara, ala the Tuareg, Zenata. IMO, I think you can make a very sound argument for that reality. Especially given the Jebel Irhoud find in Morocco and vast genetic relations with other Afro-Saharan populations. ................ [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: So as I used with my three photos of supposed "Nubians" captives from war. But others would call them slaves, but that's semantics of course. Still other have called them Kushites just by why of descriptions labeling them "Nubian" like there was a civilization call that. When there obviously wasn't. [/QUOTE]Kush is an official historical political entity. [/QUOTE]I wasn't saying that Kush wasn't confirmed by the AE historical political record. I'm saying it wasn't called "Nubian" by the Egyptians, as there was not a civilization called Nubia. I'm sure this how been discussed in this very forum. So when those depictions call them "Nubian" captives of war. It does not look like Kushites at all or at least for the most part but a group from Upper Nubia in southern Sudan, as One Third remarked. Even the 25th dynasty statues don't seem to reflect the "Nubian" captives of war depictions. Which brings me back to my previous remarks about Upper Egypt and current population ethnic group and their relation to the Ta-Seti civilization or state. ............................. [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [IMG]https://images2.imgbox.com/34/ba/RveroTqr_o.png[/IMG] Chattel slaves recorded in Egyptian records were mostly prisoners of war and were brought over to different cities and countries to be sold as slaves. Other prisoners were drafted into the military. Horemheb spent time travelling Ancient Egypt repairing damage done by the chaos of Akhenaten, Tutankhamun, and Ay, and emphasized feedback from common folk in making changes to policy. His massive societal reforms were the catalyst to put Ancient Egypt back in order. One of his enduring legacies came from the “The Great Edict of Horemheb,” a proclamation found etched on the tenth pillar at Karnak. Horemheb’s Edict derided the state of corruption in Ancient Egypt that had occurred under the Amarna Kings, noting specific instances of long-time corrupt practices that were tearing the fabric of society. These included unlawfully seized property, bribery, embezzlement, the mismanagement of taxes collected, and even the taking of slaves for personal use by tax collectors. [/QUOTE]Curious what does this information pertain to, exactly? Or provide context to? I don't believe Egyptians practiced in chattel slavery, but like most African groups. It was captives of wars, among other things, and wealthy or royalty in other parts of Africa that made those they captured servants. (Sorry, if we are going in circles) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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