quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: To be honest, though, I'm not so sure the Egyptians had curly hair on average. According to this study done on Egyptian hair, the average trichometer index ranged between 65.2 and 72.1, the latter rating being typical of straighter hair (though admittedly the 72.1 rating came from a small predynastic sample).
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^ LOL Indeed. Let it be known that so-called "caucasian" hair is actually quite thin and tends to break off more easily especially when hot and dry. Such is not the case with Africans whose hair is adapted to tropical climate, even if it is loose and wavy.
But this the only response I'll give to this troll bait.
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Besides, his nose isn't really bent but was originally quite straight. It was broken during the brain extraction process and then stuffed.
Peppercorns were placed in his broken nose to restore its shape and his sense of smell in the after life. His nose may have been broken during the mummification process when his brain was removed through his nose
Father: Ramesses I, Mother: Queen Sitre Projecting, arched glabella. Zygomatic arches are rather forward giving prominent cheekbones. Very straight upper incisors; receding chin; moderately steep mandible and broad ramus. Sloping, rather flattened forehead. Occipital region is similar to Pharaohs of XVIII Dynasty.
Ramesses II
Father: Seti I, Mother: Queen Mut-Tuy Rounded forehead with sagittal plateau. Slight, rounded glabella. Proclined upper incisors; receding chin with high ANB. Rather long ramus with weak inclination of mandible. Orthognathous.
..In terms of head shape, the XVIV and XX dynasties look more like the early Nubian skulls from the mesolithic with low vaults and sloping, curved foreheads. The XVII and XVIII dynasty skulls are shaped more like modern Nubians with globular skulls and high vaults. Merenptah, Siptah and Ramesses V all have pronounced glabellae. Ramesses IV has a bulging occiput similar to the "Elder Lady." Ramesses II and his son, Merenptah, both have rather weakly inclined mandibles with long ramus. Ramesses II's father, Seti I, does not possess this feature, though, suggesting that this was inherited from Ramesses II's mother, Queen Mut-Tuy. The gonial angle of Seti I is 116.3 compared to 107.9 and 109 for Ramesses II and Merenptah respectively.
The XVIV and XX dynasty heads do not have steep foreheads, receding zygomatic arches or prominent chins. Generally, both glabella and occiput are rounded and projecting to varying degrees. The sagittal contour is usually flattened, at least to some degree, although this sometimes begins before the bregma rather than in post-bregmatic position. The whole mandible is rarely squarish, although the body sometimes has a wavy edge. The latter feature, though, is very common in both ancient and modern Nubians. According to Gill (1986), an undulating mandible is a characteristic of Negroids.
The difference between late XVII and XVIII dynasty royal mummies and contemporary Nubians is slight. During the XVIV and XX dynasties we see possibly some mixing between a Nubian element that is more similar to Mesolithic Nubians (low vaults, sloping frontal bone, etc.), with an orthognathous population. Since the Ramessides were of northern extraction, this could represent miscegenation with modern Mediterraneans of Levantine type. The projecting zygomatic arches of Seti I suggest remnants of the old Natufian/Tasian types of the Holocene period.
Courtesy of Drs. Harris and Wente, X-Ray Atlas of the Royal Mummies (1980)
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Djehuti, why do you keep responding to Abaza? Please ignore him.
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By the way, what 80 y old man still has his natural hair color, especially during those days. Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Perhaps you should start crying.
Besides, his nose isn't really bent but was originally quite straight. It was broken during the brain extraction process and then stuffed.
Peppercorns were placed in his broken nose to restore its shape and his sense of smell in the after life. His nose may have been broken during the mummification process when his brain was removed through his nose
Father: Ramesses I, Mother: Queen Sitre Projecting, arched glabella. Zygomatic arches are rather forward giving prominent cheekbones. Very straight upper incisors; receding chin; moderately steep mandible and broad ramus. Sloping, rather flattened forehead. Occipital region is similar to Pharaohs of XVIII Dynasty.
Ramesses II
Father: Seti I, Mother: Queen Mut-Tuy Rounded forehead with sagittal plateau. Slight, rounded glabella. Proclined upper incisors; receding chin with high ANB. Rather long ramus with weak inclination of mandible. Orthognathous.
..In terms of head shape, the XVIV and XX dynasties look more like the early Nubian skulls from the mesolithic with low vaults and sloping, curved foreheads. The XVII and XVIII dynasty skulls are shaped more like modern Nubians with globular skulls and high vaults. Merenptah, Siptah and Ramesses V all have pronounced glabellae. Ramesses IV has a bulging occiput similar to the "Elder Lady." Ramesses II and his son, Merenptah, both have rather weakly inclined mandibles with long ramus. Ramesses II's father, Seti I, does not possess this feature, though, suggesting that this was inherited from Ramesses II's mother, Queen Mut-Tuy. The gonial angle of Seti I is 116.3 compared to 107.9 and 109 for Ramesses II and Merenptah respectively.
The XVIV and XX dynasty heads do not have steep foreheads, receding zygomatic arches or prominent chins. Generally, both glabella and occiput are rounded and projecting to varying degrees. The sagittal contour is usually flattened, at least to some degree, although this sometimes begins before the bregma rather than in post-bregmatic position. The whole mandible is rarely squarish, although the body sometimes has a wavy edge. The latter feature, though, is very common in both ancient and modern Nubians. According to Gill (1986), an undulating mandible is a characteristic of Negroids.
The difference between late XVII and XVIII dynasty royal mummies and contemporary Nubians is slight. During the XVIV and XX dynasties we see possibly some mixing between a Nubian element that is more similar to Mesolithic Nubians (low vaults, sloping frontal bone, etc.), with an orthognathous population. Since the Ramessides were of northern extraction, this could represent miscegenation with modern Mediterraneans of Levantine type. The projecting zygomatic arches of Seti I suggest remnants of the old Natufian/Tasian types of the Holocene period.
Courtesy of Drs. Harris and Wente, X-Ray Atlas of the Royal Mummies (1980)
In edition, Ramses III.
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Ish, we need a black person photo with lips this small
"We" don't need anything. What YOU need is professional psychiatric help.
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Those "lips aren't small" but relatively smaller, you need glasses or in proper English SPECTACLES ! Due to your bad eyesight.
This is why sometimes I give blown up versions. Because you "the idiot" and cohorts don't know what the hell you are talking about!
The size of the lips is regular there in that area. But since you have never been there once in you hideous lifetime you would not know this, let alone even understand.
The more you post, the more you show me that you don't know anything of this subject or the region, let alone the INDIGENOUS PEOPLE!
The ancient Egyptians were indigenous Africans, point blank!
If you want to see "n*gg*s" with so-called "small lips and thin noses", do some travelin' in hat area!
Thanks for your time, Oki-Doki!
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Ish, we need a black person photo with lips this small
"We" don't need anything. What YOU need is professional psychiatric help.
The whole argument is ridiculous after the posting of these two, while we could go on for day posting these type of pics with people carrying these features. RIGHT THERE IN THE REGION OF THE WORLD!
Plus on Top Of This:
Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature
1. Michelle H. Raxter1,*, 2. Christopher B. Ruff2, 3. Ayman Azab3, 4. Moushira Erfan3, 5. Muhammad Soliman3, 6. Aly El-Sawaf3
"We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites... Long bone stature regression equations were then derived for each sex. Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites, proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical... Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks...brachial indices are definitely more ‘African’... There is no evidence for significant variation in proportions among temporal or social groupings; thus, the new formula may be broadly applicable to ancient Egyptian remains." ("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-5
Determination of optimal rehydration, fixation and staining methods for histological and immunohistochemical analysis of mummified soft tissues.
"Materials and methods In 1997, the German Institute for Archaeology headed an excavation of the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt. At this time, three types of tissues were sampled from different mummies: meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and placenta. Archaeological findings suggest that the mummies dated from the New Kingdom (approximately 1550_/1080 BC)...... The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of neriod origin."
So I don't know what the hell they want, and continue this obsession they can't let go?
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And it's funny how one can run from corner to corner with crazy meaningless arguments, yet always gets cornered. A person so is stupid not knowing where Abu Simbel is? Yet, dears to talk about the subject.
>Back to the drawing table..
Wadi Kubbaniya (ca. 17,000–15,000 B.C.)
In Egypt, the earliest evidence of humans can be recognized only from tools found scattered over an ancient surface, sometimes with hearths nearby. In Wadi Kubbaniya, a dried-up streambed cutting through the Western Desert to the floodplain northwest of Aswan in Upper Egypt, some interesting sites of the kind described above have been recorded. A cluster of Late Paleolithic camps was located in two different topographic zones: on the tops of dunes and the floor of the wadi (streambed) where it enters the valley. Although no signs of houses were found, diverse and sophisticated stone implements for hunting, fishing, and collecting and processing plants were discovered around hearths. Most tools were bladelets made from a local stone called chert that is widely used in tool fabrication. The bones of wild cattle, hartebeest, many types of fish and birds, as well as the occasional hippopotamus have been identified in the occupation layers. Charred remains of plants that the inhabitants consumed, especially tubers, have also been found.
It appears from the zoological and botanical remains at the various sites in this wadi that the two environmental zones were exploited at different times. We know that the dune sites were occupied when the Nile River flooded the wadi because large numbers of fish and migratory bird bones were found at this location. When the water receded, people then moved down onto the silt left behind on the wadi floor and the floodplain, probably following large animals that looked for water there in the dry season. Paleolithic peoples lived at Wadi Kubbaniya for about 2,000 years, exploiting the different environments as the seasons changed. Other ancient camps have been discovered along the Nile from Sudan to the Mediterranean, yielding similar tools and food remains. These sites demonstrate that the early inhabitants of the Nile valley and its nearby deserts had learned how to exploit local environments, developing economic strategies that were maintained in later cultural traditions of pharaonic Egypt.
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ausar wrote: ----------------------------------------- Djehuti, why do you keep responding to Abaza? Please ignore him. -----------------------------------------
Djehuti is a no life loser. Folks ask yourself, who has the kind of time to create 17,765 posts and counting. He's one of those nutjobs who "NEEDS" to feel like he is needed in order for him to have a purpose in life. This is because Djehuti does not have a life.
And who does he fantasize needs him? Why it's those helpless subhuman Africans and black american negroes of course since they are at the bottom of his delusional racial hierarchy.
The trolls give this loon the fantasy that he is needed. If they go away it takes away his purpose in life. Therefore it is in his pitiful psychological interest to respond to them and give them attention. Because he knows it will spur them to continue to post which in turn feeds into his delusion that he is needed.
Folks, Djehuti is in serious need of a shrink.
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That study is outdated and racist nonsense, at time when the original indigenous population wasn't even considered.
And it was just another attempt of the "great white hype"!
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