OK, i've done some reading, seeing different subjects, and in all of them Egyptians are seen as scameres and cheaters... so i wanna ask is there any Egyptian who can be trusted? I know one Egyptian, we chat on skype over a year now, but before i read everything what people say about them he told me everything.. true and open... i didn't see he lies about anything, and i feel very comfortable chatting with him.... we are very different cultures, but i like his open minded thinking....so i didn't see any sign that could make me think he only wanna use me for something... If you ask me, yes, i trust him sooo much... why?? because he didn't do nothing by now to lose my trust... so is he very smart and play a very good game with me? or am I very stupid and blind to not see bad in that? I wanna hear your thinking.... Btw... sorry if my English not grammar correct.... I'm Croatian...
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Like every country in the world there are bad and there good people. If you want to meet bad Egyptians try the internet or tourists resorts. If you want to find good Egyptians get introduced through his family. This advice is not 100% accurate, there will be exceptions but I reckon it is 99%
As for your 'friend', he is fishing. First he has to catch you before reeling you in
Posted by Habeeby (Member # 14429) on :
There are Egyptians who can be trusted i am married to one. However, nobody can answer your question but you as it is only you who knows this man and only you who can judge him on his behaviour towards you. My advice is forget he is Egyptian and think of him as a man, accept no less and give no more than you would to any man in your life.
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
hmmm... interesting point Habeeby... you said it right... not really depend what you are but who you are in you.... so ok, its a public secret that some of Egyptians are "fishing"...:-) but point is some... so maybe i find one very intellegent and good actor or i find a really good friend...how can i be sure in that.... first we are just friends, so no talk about love because i have a boyfriend here i plan to marry, so if he is going that way he is losig his time... i make him a very clear point to that... but i really enjoying talking to him, knowing Egypt and its culture, people, thinking, good and bad... so after all i read in here, i can't help myself not asking is there any posibility that he is lieing just to get something.... is it possible that I find a good boy who only wanna make friends like me?? what are the chances to that???
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
and akshar... maybe he is fishing.... but more then 2000 km between us so he better use a good bait :-)))))
Posted by Habeeby (Member # 14429) on :
Jerky you plan to marry your boyfriend,you have no intention of entering into a relationship with this man, you enjoy speaking to him online so what have you got to lose in this? He can not get anymore from you than you want to give therefore you have the control. Egyptian men are seen as scammers not thieves anything they have gained from women, money or otherwise these women chose to give to them. My advice is if you enjoy speaking to him it is harmless however if he begins to ask for money, help with visa, etc it will be clear to you what he is after and then it maybe time to say goodbye to your friendship, unless you choose otherwise. Beware of the Egyptian charm Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
The chances of a friendship between an Egyptian man and a Western women with no strings attached. Well leaving aside it is against Islam let me think .............feel mish mish
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
yeah, i must say charm is something he really have :-) very sweet i must say.... but first i have somebody here, second im not that easy to give trust to anyone, so yeah, now i have control... he invited me to come to Cairo, i say i would really like to visit Cairo but if i come, i will bring my boyfriend with me... he told me we are both very welcome to his home. i was surprised really... to invite somebody to his home just like that??? strange, but maybe normal for him :-)as you say, im tired from listening Egyptians like this, and Egyptians like that... i meet a very good Egyptian (for now) i enjoy every second talking to him, and he told me what kind of people do what, he told me to take care for scamers....
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
Aksar, for the point of religion, we both Christians.... he is Orthodox, im Chatolic... and what would "mish mish" exactly mean if I can ask :-)))?
Posted by Dexter (Member # 16952) on :
I thought mish mish was apricot ?
Posted by stayingput (Member # 14989) on :
fil mish-mish = in your dreams
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
aaaa... yeah Dexter it sounded to me also like something to eat :-)))) but stayingput thanks for explaining :-))))
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
i think too that mish mish is a kind of apricot... but depend in what sentence, and change the meaning to " dream baby" hahahhaha :-) i really dont see connection, but ok :-)
Posted by tigerlily_misr (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: i think too that mish mish is a kind of apricot... but depend in what sentence, and change the meaning to " dream baby" hahahhaha :-) i really dont see connection, but ok :-)
Mish-mish is apricot.
Here's the connection. Apricot season is, what?, two weeks in Egypt. Therefore, if you want apricots, you have to get them quickly. The rest of the year, while they're out of season, you can only dream about them.
Here's how to apply fil mish-mish (real life example):
Mr. Wonderful: (blah, blah, blah) And that's an order.
Me: Fil mish-mish.
The first time that came out of my mouth, his response was, "WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT!?"
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
[/QUOTE]Can you trust Croatians?
What would your answer be?
Come and join us on our new forum:
http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/index.php [/QB][/QUOTE] of course, my point is exactly in that .... you can talk about people generaly... there are always exceptions... and wherever i read about Egyptians there are always words "scamers" "cheaters" "he will only use you..." used. but first Egyptian i have ever met in my life didn't do anything to make me think something like that. good point you have there , can you trust Croatians?? my answer would be that depend.... some of them yes and some of them no...
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
quote:Originally posted by stayingput:
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: i think too that mish mish is a kind of apricot... but depend in what sentence, and change the meaning to " dream baby" hahahhaha :-) i really dont see connection, but ok :-)
Mish-mish is apricot.
Here's the connection. Apricot season is, what?, two weeks in Egypt. Therefore, if you want apricots, you have to get them quickly. The rest of the year, while they're out of season, you can only dream about them.
Here's how to apply fil mish-mish (real life example):
Mr. Wonderful: (blah, blah, blah) And that's an order.
Me: Fil mish-mish.
The first time that came out of my mouth, his response was, "WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT!?"
hahhahahah... great i will use that sentence in Croatia... to give people something to think about thanks for great explanation
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
I have to roll my eyes here. Jeky as the ESers who responded to this thread, how many of them met their spouses on vacation or over the internet and how many of them married a married man.
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
Sorry Metinoot but I didn't catch your point???
Posted by Habeeby (Member # 14429) on :
quote: Sorry Metinoot but I didn't catch your point???
me neither Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by Habeeby:
quote: Sorry Metinoot but I didn't catch your point???
me neither
with sono, aka metinoot, there never is a point.
Posted by Habeeby (Member # 14429) on :
quote: with sono, aka metinoot, there never is a point.
I wish that was true Ayisha but sadly there is a point with sono however the rest of us can't see it because it is usually firmly embedded up her ***** previously with pictures to confirm this fact yeuch!!!
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by Habeeby:
quote: with sono, aka metinoot, there never is a point.
I wish that was true Ayisha but sadly there is a point with sono however the rest of us can't see it because it is usually firmly embedded up her ***** previously with pictures to confirm this fact yeuch!!!
careful bringing that up Habeeby, you'll get accused of fancying her Posted by Desertgirl (Member # 12450) on :
Can you trust Norwegians? Can you trust any one after all?
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
Yes, I do understand your point... that is why I opened this question from first... all i read is don't trust Egyptian, he will use you, he will not treat you good... i mean, can we really talk about people generaly??? People are not produced in a factory so they can be all the same... depend from person to person... example, me, i know one good Egyptian who never try to use anything from me, who just simply enjoy talking to me, respect me, understand my culture and my different way of living... and thinking. after all I wanna say ....ok, he is Egyptian... so??? Can anyone try to explain me what does "being Egyptian" really refers to? Posted by marydot (Member # 15932) on :
As you speak to him online ONLY why does it matter if you trust him or not ?
Its not like you know his life behind the computer screen is it ?
Just keep him as a online friend ONLY...
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
quote:Originally posted by marydot: As you speak to him online ONLY why does it matter if you trust him or not ?
Its not like you know his life behind the computer screen is it ?
Just keep him as a online friend ONLY...
To me its very important to trust a person i talk to... Other way we can't talk open if I don't trust him.... I can't know his life behind the computer screen, i only believe what he say to me.... and why would he have to lie? I would really like to know him in person one day, so i think its very important that i trust him and that he trust me.
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
"Why would he have to lie", you were joking when you asked this question weren't you. Because you are his lottery ticket and if he plays you right he could win the jackpot
Posted by marydot (Member # 15932) on :
I dont know if akshar is right or wrong but ive read some horror stories on ES maybe she is right..OUCH!!!
Keep him as a ONLINE friend only!!!
If he was living in your city, i guess it be much easier but as you are in Croatia and he is in Egypt then thats another story.
I met my partner online 4 months ago, we both live in the same city so its much more easier for us.
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: "Why would he have to lie", you were joking when you asked this question weren't you. Because you are his lottery ticket and if he plays you right he could win the jackpot
akshar states this from personal experience.
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
abso bloody lutely sono (i know you are so jealous )
Mahmoud doesn't lie, that is why he got a visitors visa to the UK on his own
by the way no turkeys rofl
Posted by Momma_Dukez (Member # 16037) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: OK, i've done some reading, seeing different subjects, and in all of them Egyptians are seen as scameres and cheaters... so i wanna ask is there any Egyptian who can be trusted? I know one Egyptian, we chat on skype over a year now, but before i read everything what people say about them he told me everything.. true and open... i didn't see he lies about anything, and i feel very comfortable chatting with him.... we are very different cultures, but i like his open minded thinking....so i didn't see any sign that could make me think he only wanna use me for something... If you ask me, yes, i trust him sooo much... why?? because he didn't do nothing by now to lose my trust... so is he very smart and play a very good game with me? or am I very stupid and blind to not see bad in that? I wanna hear your thinking.... Btw... sorry if my English not grammar correct.... I'm Croatian...
Um, how can you trust someone you've never met? when he turns off that computer, he can be doing ANYTHING! chances are, he is a totally different person.
also, why go online for a love when there are women right outside your front door? oh yea thats right, egyptian women are of no use these days. marry one, and ur stuck for eternity slumming it out in egypt. marry an outsider, and your in the club.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: abso bloody lutely sono (i know you are so jealous )
Mahmoud doesn't lie, that is why he got a visitors visa to the UK on his own
went to hit the Like button and it's not there ROFL
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
[/QUOTE]Um, how can you trust someone you've never met? when he turns off that computer, he can be doing ANYTHING! chances are, he is a totally different person.
also, why go online for a love when there are women right outside your front door? oh yea thats right, egyptian women are of no use these days. marry one, and ur stuck for eternity slumming it out in egypt. marry an outsider, and your in the club. [/QB][/QUOTE] ok, thank you for your reply, and i appreciate your thinking, but I must disagree with you in one point.... we didn't talk about love or marry each other, or nothing like that... if he wanna get out of Egypt, he will do that, he have a good opportunity, he really don't need me for that... its true that i can't have 100% trust in him because I don't know what is he doing when he go offline, maybe one day i will meet him and see :-D and how do i know does he trust me??? maybe I'm just another hungry female who wanna use him only for the point of sex, because he look like a million dollar baby :-D :-D :-D joking, of course, only i wanna say that he is nice boy, he told me stories about good and bad he do, so if he wanna catch me or something like that, he is using a wrong bait....:-D
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: abso bloody lutely sono (i know you are so jealous )
Mahmoud doesn't lie, that is why he got a visitors visa to the UK on his own
But after you got Orfi married to him only then did you find out he was already married to someone else.
Why should I be jealous of a lass who has given her life's savings to an already married man?
maybe because he's actually doing something successful with that money instead of messing it all up like yours did with the fictional tobacco store in a health center??
Jane and Mahmoud's empire is quite vast now, and growing. Jane is a published author and becoming quite an authority here. Considering you claim her income has plummeted Mahmoud has recently been for a UK trip alone and to my knowledge they have full buildings over the summer, so not doing as bad as you wished.
How is your ex and his new imported Egyptian wife/cousin, after he married you to claim residency so he could then import her and refuse to see his own daughter he exported from her birth place and stole her future from her?
I think there is much to be jealous of there. Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Well you are obviously bright green with jealously.
Mahmoud never lied about having another wife I just didn't ask. The first time it came up was when I suggested it to him. We both find that funny, it was obviously our destiny.
My life savings have now been translated in 27 flats and 5 villas and we are building another 6. Oh and BTW they are in my name.
I bet you are so green you can not cope, how is your daughter btw, the one you gave away. How is your marriage, the one that failed, how is your career, check her pathetic profile out on linked in what a joke. After 8 years on these forums watching your life fail again and again I don't wonder why you are so jealous.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar:
My life savings have now been translated in 27 flats and 5 villas and we are building another 6. Oh and BTW they are in my name.
That is OWNED, not using CHARITY money to RENT. Posted by this (Member # 17234) on :
Taxes? Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
yup pay those as well Posted by this (Member # 17234) on :
Hope your "empire" grows to no end.
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
i have a strange feeling that this discussion lose its sence.... Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: Well you are obviously bright green with jealously.
Mahmoud never lied about having another wife I just didn't ask. The first time it came up was when I suggested it to him. We both find that funny, it was obviously our destiny.
My life savings have now been translated in 27 flats and 5 villas and we are building another 6. Oh and BTW they are in my name.
I bet you are so green you can not cope, how is your daughter btw, the one you gave away. How is your marriage, the one that failed, how is your career, check her pathetic profile out on linked in what a joke. After 8 years on these forums watching your life fail again and again I don't wonder why you are so jealous.
When the flats were built he put them in his name.
I am not going to have time this week to go back and find those posts in which you had stated that.
You also had given advice in regards to other brit women keeping funds in the UK and not handing over their entire life's savings to their toyboy.
Thats exactly what you have done. Emptied all your money out of the UK and handed it over to your gigolo.
Despite what you think, Mahmoud was required to inform you he was already married. To fail to share this info with you before signing the Orfi papers is fraud.
And Mahmoud failed to tell his wife in advance that he was marrying again. That would invalid your Orfi papers. A secret marriage is a sham marriage. Even if he came clean with his wife later.
You and Ayisha had stated living in Luxor with not a pound to your name is better than living in London on an Estate flat on government assistance.
You cannot sell those flats to return your money back to London. You don't own those flats.
You are totally at the mercy of Mahmoud and he doesn't like your drinking. Sooner or later he will turn you out and then that estate flat in london will claim your future.
Just saying.
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by this: Hope your "empire" grows to no end.
I wonder after Mahmoud turns akshar out, if Mahmoud will be able to run the business himself?
Or will the local government end up taking over all these "gigolo empires" and use them for themselves.
Like so many other properties that were built on agricultural land without a permit!
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Tish tish Sono you are out of date. Mahmoud put the property in joint names once it transferred from agricultural to residential land. That was 3 years ago, you can check at land registry.
Why on earth would he throw me out, he is not stupid, the business benefits from both of us. Mahmoud and I are that strange thing you have never come across, an happy equal partnership.
Sono is green : D
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: Tish tish Sono you are out of date. Mahmoud put the property in joint names once it transferred from agricultural to residential land. That was 3 years ago, you can check at land registry.
Why on earth would he throw me out, he is not stupid, the business benefits from both of us. Mahmoud and I are that strange thing you have never come across, an happy equal partnership.
Sono is green : D
If your marriage was equal then why didn't he bring an equal amount of money to invest in the flats? You paid for the entire property, he was penniless and his family rented.
If your marriage was equal why don't you go out and marry another man since he has two wives?
If your marriage was equal, why doesn't Mahmoud have sexual relations with you as often as he has with his first wife? Why doesn't he spend half of his nights at the flats and the other half of the nights with his first wife? Why didn't he have children with you (and you were still capable of having children when you married) as he has had with his first wife?
Why doesn't Mahmoud acquire a permenant residency in the UK and live half of his year in the UK with you? And why cannot Mahmoud get a visa to the UK before he married you, and why can Mahmoud not get a visa without your help?
Why don't you have as much money invested in the UK as you had given to Mahmoud?
Doesn't come across as an equal marriage.
You haven't quite explained how you and Mahmoud managed to change the zoning for the properties from Agriculture to Residential. None of the properties Mahmoud owns except for the family house was built with a permit. If you managed this feat you'd be the only foreigner in Luxor to manage such an achievement.
And buildings built without a permit cannot be registered, nor taxed. According to policy these buildings are often demolished and the property is confiscated, when the local authorities wish to address the issue.
It must have taken quite the bribe to get those properties registered and rezoned. And you don't seem to be the kind of person who could afford such bribes.
All your money is in Egyptian pounds. And I'd be less impressed with a deed from the land registry office as I would be to see a tax filing in UK with these foreign properties listed as an asset. And I highly doubt you could claim them as a foreign real estate asset, because the Luxorian authorities would be more likely to provide such proof to the UK inland tax revenue service than to you! Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
akshar not every woman's dream is to hand over her entire life's savings to a guy who is already married and who is penniless then spend every night alone.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
sono you do talk a lot of total garbage, get a life. You know nothing of Luxor, Egypt, UK, Taxes, Luxor government, marriage or happy and equal, so you are not really an authority on any.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot:
quote:Originally posted by akshar: [qb] Tish tish Sono you are out of date. Mahmoud put the property in joint names once it transferred from agricultural to residential land. That was 3 years ago, you can check at land registry.
Why on earth would he throw me out, he is not stupid, the business benefits from both of us. Mahmoud and I are that strange thing you have never come across, an happy equal partnership.
Sono is green : D
If your marriage was equal then why didn't he bring an equal amount of money to invest in the flats? You paid for the entire property, he was penniless and his family rented.
You obviously don't understand partnerships. In any partnership, business or otherwise, not only money is put in, some put in knowledge and expertise and others put in money.
What makes you so convinced his family home was rented? That is not how it works here, but you wouldn't know that. Your ex in laws gaining their 'estate' through being up babaMu's ass and ripping off the Egyptian people.
quote:If your marriage was equal why don't you go out and marry another man since he has two wives?
You were married to a muslim so you must see what a stupid question that is, are you drunk?
quote:If your marriage was equal, why doesn't Mahmoud have sexual relations with you as often as he has with his first wife? Why doesn't he spend half of his nights at the flats and the other half of the nights with his first wife? Why didn't he have children with you (and you were still capable of having children when you married) as he has had with his first wife?
so you're getting none again? Why if you are divorced and your ex married his cousin when he got residency through you do you still have to be serviced by him?
quote:Why doesn't Mahmoud acquire a permenant residency in the UK and live half of his year in the UK with you? And why cannot Mahmoud get a visa to the UK before he married you, and why can Mahmoud not get a visa without your help?
Why doesn't your daughter who was born in USA, whose parents live in USA, live at least 6 months in USA instead of living full time in Egypt away from both her parents?
Why the hell would Mahmoud WANT a permanent UK residency anyway, they live in Egypt. I think you're drunk.
quote:Why don't you have as much money invested in the UK as you had given to Mahmoud?
Why did you pay all your ex's debts and get rid of your only child so you could do it? Why would someone living in Egypt want or need to have as much invested in UK as they do in the place they live? definitely drunk.
quote:Doesn't come across as an equal marriage.
in looney terms I supposed it wouldn't
quote:You haven't quite explained how you and Mahmoud managed to change the zoning for the properties from Agriculture to Residential. None of the properties Mahmoud owns except for the family house was built with a permit. If you managed this feat you'd be the only foreigner in Luxor to manage such an achievement.
Did you apply to CIA for a job and get turned down too? If there was no permit to build then the flats would not still be standing, think about it when you sober up.
quote:And buildings built without a permit cannot be registered, nor taxed. According to policy these buildings are often demolished and the property is confiscated, when the local authorities wish to address the issue.
they are all still standing so logic would assume they are legal buildings, normal logic I mean, not sonologic of course.
quote:It must have taken quite the bribe to get those properties registered and rezoned. And you don't seem to be the kind of person who could afford such bribes.
assumption is the mother of ...........
quote:All your money is in Egyptian pounds. And I'd be less impressed with a deed from the land registry office as I would be to see a tax filing in UK with these foreign properties listed as an asset. And I highly doubt you could claim them as a foreign real estate asset, because the Luxorian authorities would be more likely to provide such proof to the UK inland tax revenue service than to you!
Why on earth would she have egyptian properties registered for tax in UK when she does not live in UK?? you know nothing about anything sono, and your info is flawed. You should be asking how can a UK charity be paying for a luxury flat on the Nile for someone to pop over for a couple of weeks holiday and why isn't that money going to the egyptian children the UK charity claims it is helping, add in the flights money too and that's a hell of a lot of poor families with food and clothing, oh and of course they will be put as 'expenses' so tax free, and YOU have the gaul to interrogate some that LIVES in Egypt and DOES employ Egyptians and possibly helps a darn sight more families than the 'charity' bothers to.
Hope you managed to sober up now. Posted by this (Member # 17234) on :
There's no tax on property as of yet. The law that was introduced is in limbo. The tax she would pay would be on income generated from the properties as with any other business. No one in Egypt pays taxes as they should. Not Akshar and not the vast majority of Egyptians. Everyone justifies it in their own way, "I have a large family to feed" Feeding them what exactly. "What do you do with all the gold?"
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Now there was me thinking she hadn't taken her meds and she is just drunk, tsh tsh I should have realised.
Hello Green Sono
I'm happy you are not.
You can say what you like and Ayisha has already shown you the lack of logic in the crap you talk but that is the real problem isn't it.
You haven't got a career, never had. You haven't got a daughter, never had You haven't got property, never had You haven't got a future, never had You aren't happy, never have been, never will be
Sono is green
Posted by tigerlily_misr (Member # 3567) on :
Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!
[ 08. September 2011, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: Shanta Gdeeda ]
Posted by danibanu (Member # 19360) on :
of course... they are people, too
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by this: There's no tax on property as of yet. The law that was introduced is in limbo. The tax she would pay would be on income generated from the properties as with any other business. No one in Egypt pays taxes as they should. Not Akshar and not the vast majority of Egyptians. Everyone justifies it in their own way, "I have a large family to feed" Feeding them what exactly. "What do you do with all the gold?"
My in-laws do pay property tax, and this time around (every 10 years) they paid taxes on the three flats they have in Alex but somehow didn't have to pay taxes on the flat in Cairo.
But the family home in Shebin and the two family villas were taxed accordingly.
The family rented out two of the flats and had to pay income taxes on the revenue generated from rent.
So its possible, but I doubt akshar could understand what she was paying when Mahmoud asked for money to pay the property tax, therefore there is a good chance he just pocketed it. Like everything else. Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: Now there was me thinking she hadn't taken her meds and she is just drunk, tsh tsh I should have realised.
Hello Green Sono
I'm happy you are not.
You can say what you like and Ayisha has already shown you the lack of logic in the crap you talk but that is the real problem isn't it.
You haven't got a career, never had. You haven't got a daughter, never had You haven't got property, never had You haven't got a future, never had You aren't happy, never have been, never will be
Sono is green
And yet you fail to refute what I had stated about the "equality" in your so-called marriage.
Akshar you finished high school and a few tech courses, I finished an associates degree and a bachelors degree.
akshar your career as a data entry specialist, and a PR person for an organization which under your management was audited and fined by the inland revenue service.
I've had a variety of positions and have managed not to be audited nor fined by a federal entity. Hell I have managed to work in offices for most of the last decade.
Not drinking, not at all actually its been over a year since I had anything and before it was a few times a month at most; normally a few times a year. No one has had to purge my home of booze, while Mahmoud only enters your home to toss out booze.
As for property I don't own any, nor have I given life insurance payout, and equity from a legally owned home to cover the costs of building illegally and not being able to obtain a document of property ownership. Thats your specailty.
As for my kid thats none of your business, I don't really like to criticize but you had failed to school your child in an accredited international school like I have. Ameria I think her name is, spent less than two years in a Coptic school. Ameria isn't literate in Arabic, and possibly she can speak enough to translate for you but not enough to keep up in her academic work in classes taught entirely in Arabic.
Mahmoud refused to spend the money to send Ameria to a proper school for foreigners. Yet me and my ex husband manage to do exactly that.
We also wouldn't send her to live along in a nation without financially supporting her. Ameria moved back to the UK and I highly doubt Mahmoud who refused to send her to an international school with classes taught in English would allow you to send a 16 year old girl money. Even if she is your daughter.
You are not resorting to fake charity work (funds you pocket), and this e-book scheme; because your flats cannot keep enough tourists coming to provide income. I highly doubt Ameria gets help from you or your estranged family in the UK.
As for happiness its usually the person who goes on and on about happiness as a fascade, which in fact is not happy.
I don't have to boast or parade about envious parts of my life; because I am too busy living life.
As for happy, your first husband didn't have a work permit, didn't earn money and you were forced to provide for the family single-handledly. You complained up a storm on ES and noted it was a relief when your husband Ayman died.
I can't imagine supporting Mahmoud single-handedly again while he ignores you and populates Luxor with his first wife is going to make you any happier.
Things for me could be better, I've had to forget certain goals and rethink my life strategy.
But I have options, far more resources, and I am alot younger.
You are out of options, have far less resources and are in poor health subsequently look 15 years older than you are.
Unless those flats bring in income, Mahmoud doesn't have any use for you.
Worse when the tourist come back the local Governor could chose to confiscate property that was illegally built upon and then redistribute it to his cronies. Your flats would be a prime target for confiscation.
At least I have really nothing to lose and I don't have your track record for provoking the authorities.
Anyhow you can view it as jealousy, but not too many women out there want your life.
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Still trying green Sono
How's the job? How's the daughter? How's the career? How's the house? How's the future?
poor green Sono
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by tigerlily_misr: Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!
A loser is someone who lies about all aspects of their lives and has created a fantasy past that never existed.
Still waiting for some proof, as in a photo of you in Egypt. Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: Still trying green Sono
How's the job? How's the daughter? How's the career? How's the house? How's the future?
poor green Sono
akshar normally wouldn't pull a hobbit act quite like Ayisha continually does.
But you seem unhinged, and thats normally Ayisha's role.
It has to be getting really bad in luxor and the tourism industry in order for you to immitate ayisha.
Posted by danibanu (Member # 19360) on :
I know what you mean.. maybe it will improve something. levitra online - online pharmacy Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
thanks for the compliment Sono
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot:
quote:Originally posted by tigerlily_misr: Now I can totally agree on all of that!!!!
A loser is someone who lies about all aspects of their lives and has created a fantasy past that never existed.
Still waiting for some proof, as in a photo of you in Egypt.
A loser is someone who has to make up lies about someone elses life while continually insisting it's fact and continually accusing the person of lying about their life. = you
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot:
As for my kid thats none of your business,
why do you assume anything about Jane's life is your business?
quote:I don't really like to criticize but
really? ROFL
quote:Ameria isn't literate in Arabic, and possibly she can speak enough to translate for you but not enough to keep up in her academic work in classes taught entirely in Arabic.
I chose this part among many contestants in this post as the most ROFL winner, hilarious.
quote:We also wouldn't send her to live along in a nation without financially supporting her. Ameria moved back to the UK and I highly doubt Mahmoud who refused to send her to an international school with classes taught in English would allow you to send a 16 year old girl money. Even if she is your daughter.
difference here is, your kid was less than 1 year old when you dumped her, Jane's was an adult when she went back t UK
quote:As for happiness its usually the person who goes on and on about happiness as a fascade, which in fact is not happy.
YOU go on about how great your life is and invent lives for everyone else to make you feel better about yours. YOU continually tell us how 'attractive' you think you are, YOU bang on about how many jobs, when the number of jobs one has in a short period is not really something good, you can't keep one longer than 6 months. based on your logic, you are not happy.
quote:I don't have to boast or parade about envious parts of my life; because I am too busy living life.
wrong, you do boast and insist others are lying about theirs when they're not. Just because their truth doesn't match your fantasy you made for them it does not mean they are lying. Nice you said 'envious', proves you are
can't be arsed to go through the rest of this rubbish.
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot: At least I have really nothing to lose
Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.
Green Sono Posted by weirdkitty (Member # 15365) on :
quote: You haven't got a career, never had. You haven't got a daughter, never had You haven't got property, never had You haven't got a future, never had You aren't happy, never have been, never will be
Like! Is she still claiming she has a child?!
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar:
quote:Originally posted by metinoot: At least I have really nothing to lose
Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.
Green Sono
she lost anything she did have when she ditched her (possibly fictional) daughter in Egypt so she could slave for 'King Kong' and pay off his debts before he divorced her, and she has the audacity to spout here about anyone else? what a total JOKE
Oh and a different bed partner a day/week/month does not mean you're attractive, it means you're EASY. Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar:
quote:Originally posted by metinoot: At least I have really nothing to lose
Ayisha you missed this one, for once she told the truth in a post. She confirms what exactly what I said, she actually does have nothing.
Green Sono
1. You have no money in your own name that you can safeguard. 2. you have no property in your own name you can safeguard from Mahmoud. 3. Your health is failing and you have no surplus savings put away to pay for immense health care fees, thus you are at the mercy of your fake inlaws. 4. If you chose to go back to the UK you'd have to live in one of those welfare estates which are currently in a state of riot. 5. Your vacation flats are not being rented out and there is a good chance the lack of income will demote your status even with your mother-in-law. As a business-wife, if you aren't cranking out income you are worthless.
Imagine going back to the UK after all this time with nothing to show for yourself. Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by weirdkitty:
quote: You haven't got a career, never had. You haven't got a daughter, never had You haven't got property, never had You haven't got a future, never had You aren't happy, never have been, never will be
Like! Is she still claiming she has a child?!
Yes, a child conceived and born in wedlock. Unlike yours.
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
how many times?
1. Your fantasy 'version' that make you feel better, is just that, YOUR fantasy 'version'. You know nothing, nor do you care to know, unless it fits your fantasy 'version', everything else you deem to be a lie. See a shrink.
2. Your husband married you at that time BECAUSE you where pregnant, so even your fantasy 'version' of your own life is just that, YOUR fantasy 'version'. See a shrink.
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds
Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor
green Sono ain't got nothing Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by akshar: nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds
Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor
green Sono ain't got nothing
the military and high up government official in laws? they're probably awaiting trial like the rest of the thieving bastages. Bet she's sorry now she boasted about the flats and villas and shops they had in Cairo, Alex etc, bet it's soon to be all gone and put back into the Egyptian people where it belongs! Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
hhahahhahaha.... are you all normal??? please deal with that in personaly not here..... this subject lose its sense completly because you trying to ....i dont even know what.... so please...now stop.... and discuss to subject....if you like...
Posted by Behiragigolo (Member # 19440) on :
Hello everyone, i thought you can trust Egyptian and just discovered i cannt. I was together with ASHRAF RAMADI, he works at Titanic Beach in Hurghada. I found out he is another gigolo, having sex for money, despite he never asked me to pay him. Has women who buy him expensive presents, he just got a brand new laptop. So here i am heart broken by a cheap with no moral values gigolo
Posted by this (Member # 17234) on :
Obviously you were special to him. He only used other women not you! You should go back to him and get down on it Posted by marydot (Member # 15932) on :
Go and get the laptop and smash it to bits!!!That way it will piss him off!!!
Smash it to piece's in front of him, then give him the middle finger!!!
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
quote:Originally posted by Behiragigolo: Hello everyone, i thought you can trust Egyptian and just discovered i cannt. I was together with ASHRAF RAMADI, he works at Titanic Beach in Hurghada. I found out he is another gigolo, having sex for money, despite he never asked me to pay him. Has women who buy him expensive presents, he just got a brand new laptop. So here i am heart broken by a cheap with no moral values gigolo
Sorry to hear that.... I listen about that kind of men there :-D use for money.... so trust or not...somebody do, somebody don't... but there are that kind of men everywhere...people are ready to do alots for money... so i should start worry now about my Egyptian?? :-)
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
And about his laptop.... it will die eventually.... he can maybe have everything.... but only things that can be bought.... he will never feel love and its power... and the most precious things on this world can not be bought... so all of his expensive presents will give him only money.... easy come, easy go...
Posted by ana mish masreya (Member # 19463) on :
what a shame....I've just this evening signed up to be member of this forum. After reading this post I'm wondering what I've let myself in for. I was hoping to find nice, friendly, helpful people but mostly this is pretty horrific reading. :/
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
ahahhhhhah... welcome ana mish....:-)
Posted by ALanoue (Member # 18632) on :
For the Western women who have something good to say about their relationships with their Egyptian spouses,fiance's, and boyfriends...Please visit http://fallingforlove.americantalk.net Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
Hhehhehe.. i must be fallen down from Mars or something because i have an Egyptian men only for a friend....:-) and good one...everybody here talk about marriage for visa, for a good use of something connected to money...etc. so, tell me one thing... how come my Egyptian still keep talking to me after one year, and he knows that my financial situation is very bad, my country also not grat for living, i have a boyfriend im about to marry.... all of that he knows... and he never across the limit of respect to me... yeah, i must admit, he is a beautifull boy, sharm is something that he really have.... but we never come to point of getting into something more then friendship...
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
They can take years it is worth it to them, your life is still so much better than theirs.
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
But how can i know that he have or have not interest in me in that way?? more then just friendship....
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Because Egyptians rarely if ever had friendships between members of the opposite sex.
Posted by Momma_Dukez (Member # 16037) on :
all you both do is skype. how in the hell can u make mistakes in a relationship when its only web-based.
my lord, whoever invented the internet needs to be shot. its turning humans into asses.
Posted by showtime (Member # 19531) on :
the reverse question : does An Egyption man trust in a foreign woman?!
Posted by showtime (Member # 19531) on :
I believe that trust must be mutual
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
Yeah, we got that.. trust must be equal in both sides.... other way any kind of relation will not work... I trust him untill he shows me im wrong... simple... and you are right.... he can be asking himself the same question now..." Can i trust a Croatian ???" my answer would be: You can't trust an Egyptian, Croatian, Indian, Russian, American...etc... you trust or not trust just a person that is... it can not be in generaly.. every one of us have its own personality, right?
Posted by showtime (Member # 19531) on :
..you are right .. but The obvious question: Why do not I trust you ?!!
Posted by showtime (Member # 19531) on :
and why do not you trust me?!!
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...
Posted by Mimmi (Member # 3606) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...
They are good actors!! They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha:
quote:Originally posted by akshar: nurse nurse she woke up, get the meds
Sono just get your famously well connected in laws to check the property registry in Luxor
green Sono ain't got nothing
the military and high up government official in laws? they're probably awaiting trial like the rest of the thieving bastages. Bet she's sorry now she boasted about the flats and villas and shops they had in Cairo, Alex etc, bet it's soon to be all gone and put back into the Egyptian people where it belongs!
My in-laws are Egyptian you [direct insult removed].
All the properties are still theirs, along with 3 new flats in Shebin, another flat in Cairo/Shubra and a new villa purchased in Aghamy/Alex.
No one's been arrested for anything. Actually two more majors recently retired and a cousin of my Father-in-law was promoted to colonel.
My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.
Life is good for my family in Egypt!
[ 02. October 2011, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Shanta Gdeeda ]
Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mimmi:
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...
They are good actors!! They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.
you think he have a goal with me?
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot:
My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.
Life is good for my family in Egypt!
When will your daughter ever stay with her MOTHER? or even her FATHER for that matter! Posted by weirdkitty (Member # 15365) on :
Ayisha, she doesn't have a daughter. Sometimes on my baby forum we will get people lying about pregnancy, children etc, it's an attention seeking thing for the lonely.
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha:
quote:Originally posted by metinoot:
My brother in law the pharmacist is teaching at a university in Sixth of October and a father of a studen of his just gave him a 2 week stay at a villa in sharm el-sheik. My daughter stayed with him and his wife and his two daughters for those two weeks.
Life is good for my family in Egypt!
When will your daughter ever stay with her MOTHER? or even her FATHER for that matter!
When did your gigolo ever:
1. Pay back the money he took when he opened then closed the cafe? 2. Stay an entire night in the flat with you and not sneak out? 3. Actually pay a bill/expense in regards to your life 'with him' in Luxor?
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by weirdkitty: Ayisha, she doesn't have a daughter. Sometimes on my baby forum we will get people lying about pregnancy, children etc, it's an attention seeking thing for the lonely.
And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.
Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.
Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?
Posted by Mimmi (Member # 3606) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeky:
quote:Originally posted by Mimmi:
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: That depends on a relation between two people... ok, you can pretend to be perfect 1 or 2 hours talking with me on skype... you can be beautifull, good and kind.... same i can do.... the reason i have trust in "my Egyptian" is because he is very simple and he not try to be different in front of me.... when he is angry he is angry... nervous.. sad.... happy... everything he told me about him was not really a perfect story to catch a girl... our kind of relation is not based on love and marry and talk about that.... we spend hours talking in cultures, religions, way of life in his and mine county... he become very important friend to me..(yeah, i know its only online) but he always cares when im sad, when im tired, when im sick... of course, im talking now just on relation over internet... i believe some things maybe would be different if we meet in person...
They are good actors!! They can sweet talk for sure and they can take their time to reach their goal.
you think he have a goal with me?
He might think that !
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot: When did your gigolo ever:
What gigolo?
quote:1. Pay back the money he took when he opened then closed the cafe?
what money? You forget that is all in your fantasy sono, I do hope the cafe was huge and shiney though
quote:2. Stay an entire night in the flat with you and not sneak out?
don't have a gigolo, no room in the bed with me and hubby in it.
quote:3. Actually pay a bill/expense in regards to your life 'with him' in Luxor?
don't have a life with any gigolo, too busy with hubby.
oh and Mubarak and all the other thieving bastages are Egyptian too, does that mean they have a right to keep all the money they stole from the Egyptian people?
Now why did your ex rush off to Egypt for the sole purpose of getting an ID so he could VOTE while living in US, and in 8 years is it, he wouldn't set foot in the country to see his own daughter?
When did you last see her, when did you last spend any money on her or take her out, or read her a story? WK is right, even THAT is part of your twisted fantasy!
Posted by weirdkitty (Member # 15365) on :
quote: And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.
Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.
I have "confidents"? Impressive. I certainly have not seen any pictures of your alleged daughter, and the story you have told us about her and why she is in Egypt is too far fetched to believe. Quite simply, parents would not do that, not in the situation you presented.
quote: Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?
Is that meant to be an insult? I have made no secret that we had an orfi first. I have no regrets about it either, I would in fact urge ALL western women who want to get to know an egyptian to get an orfi to be able to get to know each other as best as possible before marriage, it is just good sense IMO. And yes he is settling in very well, having stayed here before for more than half a year it wasn't hard. Back from work at 5 every day, and the most devoted hands on dad I have ever seen. So when was the last time your EX husband went to visit your alleged daughter, who he sacrificed as his want for a green card was above her? And who he still hasn't got back because he cannot be bothered. Must be hard to know that if your story is true, then you were used in the same way you accuse other people of being.
Posted by Mimmi (Member # 3606) on :
quote:Originally posted by weirdkitty:
quote: And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.
Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.
I have "confidents"? Impressive. I certainly have not seen any pictures of your alleged daughter, and the story you have told us about her and why she is in Egypt is too far fetched to believe. Quite simply, parents would not do that, not in the situation you presented.
quote: Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?
Is that meant to be an insult? I have made no secret that we had an orfi first. I have no regrets about it either, I would in fact urge ALL western women who want to get to know an egyptian to get an orfi to be able to get to know each other as best as possible before marriage, it is just good sense IMO. And yes he is settling in very well, having stayed here before for more than half a year it wasn't hard. Back from work at 5 every day, and the most devoted hands on dad I have ever seen. So when was the last time your EX husband went to visit your alleged daughter, who he sacrificed as his want for a green card was above her? And who he still hasn't got back because he cannot be bothered. Must be hard to know that if your story is true, then you were used in the same way you accuse other people of being.
Good answer and I agree that nothing wrong with orfi.Who would buy a "pig in a bag"(That is a Finnish saying)
Posted by katri (Member # 19738) on :
hi can any one help me with any information or do you know my egytian boyfriend his name is hesham mohamed ali mohamed afendi he works in the tropitel hotel naama bay as a waiter i have just come back from egypt haveing spent a week with him my boyfriend tells me that he loves me and he wants to spend the rest of his life with me on my last day in egypt his friend tells me he allso has russian or ukraine wife and possibly an italian girl and allso old english wife who he uses for money and not to trust him as he is a gigaloe that i have just read so many sad storys before i continue this relationship i have to be sure he is not one of these men so if you know him or have had a relationship with him could you please email me thank you so much
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
Someone has already answered that question for you and you did not want to listen. You have been warned I suggest you heed the warning and write this relationship off to experience
Posted by metinoot (Member # 17031) on :
quote:Originally posted by weirdkitty:
quote: And whats odd is one of your confidents saved my daughter's photos and reposted them onto ES.
Luckily she crashes her computer often enough and is too stupid to back up her hard-drive.
I have "confidents"? Impressive. I certainly have not seen any pictures of your alleged daughter, and the story you have told us about her and why she is in Egypt is too far fetched to believe. Quite simply, parents would not do that, not in the situation you presented.
quote: Anyhow how is this former Orfi love interest of yours settling into life in the UK?
Is that meant to be an insult? I have made no secret that we had an orfi first. I have no regrets about it either, I would in fact urge ALL western women who want to get to know an egyptian to get an orfi to be able to get to know each other as best as possible before marriage, it is just good sense IMO. And yes he is settling in very well, having stayed here before for more than half a year it wasn't hard. Back from work at 5 every day, and the most devoted hands on dad I have ever seen. So when was the last time your EX husband went to visit your alleged daughter, who he sacrificed as his want for a green card was above her? And who he still hasn't got back because he cannot be bothered. Must be hard to know that if your story is true, then you were used in the same way you accuse other people of being.
When me, my ex and our child visit Egypt or the US is none of your business. I don't keep updates on ES of my personal life or FB quite the way you and the other Orfi lasses do, because its disrespectful of my family's privacy.
Secondly you are mis-informed. My ex had his green card and permenant residency status before we met.
You and the other orfi lasses had to move or import your gigolos, while I did not.
I haven't accused anyone of having the positives so many orfi lasses lack. Its the other way around.
And Orfi relationships in Egypt are considered sinful, you and your other orfi lasses made this unlawful orfi papers in Egypt therefore the starts to these relationships will always be mired in sin.
Westerners don't exactly view orfi relations in the same manner as Egyptians, but its not seen as a positive relationship development.
No matter how many FB friends tell you the decision you made is okay, it will never be considered a good start to married life in Egyptian eyes.
Which is why 6 years after our divorce my ex still lives within 2 blocks from us and we talk every day.
How many orfi relationships that are done and over with can have such a positive and supportive relationship as me and my ex have now?
None!
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by metinoot: When me, my ex and our child visit Egypt or the US is none of your business.
in the same way our lives are none of yours, yet you still insist on sticking your nose in and giving everyone a sonolife. Your child doesn't visit Egypt, she lives there, away from you and your ex.
quote:I don't keep updates on ES of my personal life or FB quite the way you and the other Orfi lasses do, because its disrespectful of my family's privacy.
there is still plenty of that here from you from back when you first joined, hell we even know you have sex through a hole in a sheet and how your ex hit the roof when you got pregnant coz he had to marry you, how was any of that respecting your family's privacy. We know where they live, how many houses they have and where, where they went to school and what claimed qualifications they all have, we know more about YOUR family than each others and we are all on each others FB!
quote:Secondly you are mis-informed. My ex had his green card and permenant residency status before we met.
so what was all the rules and regs you had to ship the baby away to Egypt so you could comply with to keep him there? was all that BS too? This is from your own posts!
quote:You and the other orfi lasses had to move or import your gigolos, while I did not.
no but you had to give your only child away!
quote:I haven't accused anyone of having the positives so many orfi lasses lack. Its the other way around.
not a clue what you're on about here.
quote:And Orfi relationships in Egypt are considered sinful, you and your other orfi lasses made this unlawful orfi papers in Egypt therefore the starts to these relationships will always be mired in sin.
Westerners don't exactly view orfi relations in the same manner as Egyptians, but its not seen as a positive relationship development.
she is married in UK, legally and above board, with a child she kept and a husband that loves them both. aint life a bitch!
quote:No matter how many FB friends tell you the decision you made is okay, it will never be considered a good start to married life in Egyptian eyes.
who cares what you think, they live in UK, all of them, child as well. Tell me giving away your only child is a good start to married life, or marrying because you got yourself pregnant.
quote:Which is why 6 years after our divorce my ex still lives within 2 blocks from us and we talk every day.
lives 2 blocks from us? who is us? there is YOU sono, you alone divorced and both of you without your child, not something to be proud of "oh but my ex that made my life hell and made me give up my child still speaks to me, so I'm better than you all" oh wow get real!
quote:How many orfi relationships that are done and over with can have such a positive and supportive relationship as me and my ex have now?
ROFLMAO, you must be on meds or need meds, you nutcase.
quote:None!
Yeah right, they're all still married with their husband and kids by their side, not 2 blocks away or 5000 miles away!
Now you started off saying how YOUR boring life is no one elses business and carried on as normal to poke into other peoples, and you can't even SEE it. Posted by Jeky (Member # 19269) on :
ok, girls, please.. this become personal between you and i don't think this is the place you should discuss it... so can you please stop..because I'm not even trying to follow you .... my question was about trusting Egyptians or not.... i can understand 100 people have 100 different views..... so i wanna know your answer..they can be trusted or not??? of course, i speak generally although not all of them the same... so i wanna know your experiences with that....
Posted by Ayisha (Member # 4713) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jeky: ok, girls, please.. this become personal between you and i don't think this is the place you should discuss it... so can you please stop..because I'm not even trying to follow you ....
Jeky as long as she posts lies and crap about other people then me or someone else bored enough will respond to her, it's been going on for 7 years now so you wont be the one to stop it.
quote:my question was about trusting Egyptians or not.... i can understand 100 people have 100 different views..... so i wanna know your answer..they can be trusted or not??? of course, i speak generally although not all of them the same... so i wanna know your experiences with that....
Your question has been answered a few times, you can't ask can you trust Egyptians same as you can't ask can you trust Russians, Americans, Brits, French etc, it all depends on the person. Some yes you can with your life and money, some no you can't. Sorry, way too general a question.
Posted by kotta (Member # 20350) on :
Hi, Jeky. i live now in egypt, in cairo, married to egyptian, but by Orfi, official marriage in processing still...i live here 6 monthes, he didnot use me ever, didnot ask money, i dont work now, he pays everything...BUT i want work in fashion,model, i have a chance, but he dont accept, and dont helps me search another work, wich he will like.And his salary not enough for our life(( and i want to say smth, in egypt no "open minds", before i thought same about him, but now i see another, many strange things in mind, we are so different.. i dont know how long i will live like that, maybe i will back, coz i dont like life here....
Posted by _ (Member # 3567) on :
Hi kotta,
good that you see things clear already. The first big flush of love is over and reality sets into your relationship as you both live together day by day. Don't think that it will get better when you are truly married to him. He sounds like a good guy, he wants to provide for you, I am sure he loves you too but the fact is he wants to be in complete control of you. And are you crazy? You want to work as a model so other guys can take a good look at you? I met many Egyptian men like that boasting how 'open-minded' they are etc. but remember it's a complete different society you are currently living in, you have to deal with a very different mentality than yours. Can you make it work? Will you be willing to accept certain conditions to make this relationship last because he definitely won't change. Anyway, hope you like Cairo no matter the heart drama, we've all been through that more or less, sometimes it works out well sometimes it doesn't. Take good care of yourself. Oh and btw, this forum is dead. Try: http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/ although it's pretty quiet there too.
Posted by Muhammad_Egyptian (Member # 20362) on :
Well exactly , i did not read previous comments. But i will give my point of view. First Of All i feel lonely all the time and life is sooo boring bla bla and then i knew someone he is not in my country >> okay and then we talked a lot >> it is okay , i found myself loving him okay >> lets get to the point >>> You met him in the reality wow >> he is sooo wonderful >>> okay >> Let me tell mam >> you just did not start yet >>> and tell you All the Egyptian youth wish to live outside or lets say the majority of them and what will makes them live outside is >>>> VISA >>>> so it is not the subject that you should talk about >> I believe in love by Actions not just by saying sweet words >> yes Of Course, it is amazing when you find someone special search for a family not just life of seeing model as i saw in previous comments by glance >>>> so Okay U now did zero >>> lets get to number one >>> For example you get married so what will you do ?! after that did you plan what is next ?! or just having fun in bed >>> have you talked with em about if he is going to live in Egypt or flying to your sweet country and having visa >>> has he told you about the real mentality of Egyptian people and specially his Family. I really can not tell you that after marriage you will know the real of him >>> and if it was not be like what you thought about him >>> consider it as a true experiment in life that will teach you a lot , cuz sometime we do not get it , till we try it
and also Many Egyptian people are true , you can trust them >>>> yes i swear but be smart , because the Egyptian is a very cheater and smarter person you will see in your life >>> and what made him like this >>> is >>>> President Mubarak That corrupted the good mentality and made it like what you say about the Egyptian people exceeeeeeept strong people that their number decreasing every day >>>> GOOD LUCK Jeky
Posted by akshar (Member # 1680) on :
quote:Originally posted by Muhammad_Egyptian: Well exactly , I did not read previous comments. But I will give my point of view.
First of all a woman thinks “I feel lonely all the time and life is sooo boring bla bla and then I knew someone he is not in my country okay and then we talked a lot it is okay , I found myself loving him” okay let’s get to the point you met him in reality wow he is sooo wonderful;
okay Let me tell ma'am you just did not start understanding yet and I tell you all the Egyptian youth wish to live outside or let’s say the majority of them and what will makes them live outside is VISA so it is not the subject that you should talk about.
I believe in love by actions not just by saying sweet words. Yes of course, it is amazing when you find someone special, search for a family life, not just the life of fashion model as I saw in previous comments by glance.
So okay U now did number zero let’s get to number one. For example you get married so what will you do?! After the marriage what did you plan to do, what is next ?! Or is it just having fun in bed? Have you talked with him about if he is going to live in Egypt or flying to your sweet country and having visa? Has he told you about the real mentality of Egyptian people and specially his family?
I really cannot tell you that after marriage you will know the real of him and if it was not be like what you thought about him consider it as a true experiment in life that will teach you a lot , cuz sometime we do not get it , till we try it
And also many Egyptian people are true , you can trust them; yes I swear but be smart , because the Egyptian is a very cheater and smarter person you will see in your life and what made him like this is President Mubarak. That corrupted the good mentality and made it what you see today Like what you say about the Egyptian people exceeeeeeept strong people that their number decreasing every day GOOD LUCK Jeky
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