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I met my Egyptian Soulmate in March - he is the most perfect man i have ever met, sometimes i think too good to be true!!! Anyway i have returned to Egypt 5 times this year (can't get enough of his sweet words) i a now making plans to marry him in February. I can honestly say that i would never even consider an English man again - thumbs up to Arabian Princes
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Yes, habeeby, all the best for the future for the both of you!
Well and you definitely make the airline happy too - 5 times to Egypt since March? Wow!!!! Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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Yes, yes... That's the most frequent question these men ask, "WHEN WILL YOU COME, LOVE?" Posts: 2807 | From: Europe | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: I met my Egyptian Soulmate in March - he is the most perfect man i have ever met, sometimes i think too good to be true!!! Anyway i have returned to Egypt 5 times this year (can't get enough of his sweet words) i a now making plans to marry him in February. I can honestly say that i would never even consider an English man again - thumbs up to Arabian Princes
Hi ,, to to am planning the same as you, visit egypt and fella for a year and go from there, can you tell me what you do while in egypt and visiting,, ie vist family , friends, where do you stay with him or in another flat...
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wish u all guys the best but most important question saw it here was where did u meet and what does he do for living then i can see the future amr
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I met him at Baron Palms Hotel, he is a masseur with magic hands (ha ha). I stay with him in Delta Sharm near Namma Bay, we tend to stay together although i know this is not allowed. His best friend is a lawyer and he has some paperwork made up that states we are married this means that we do not have problems, i mean you have to live with any man before you marry him don't you? Anyway he is a physiotherapist so i am assuming that he will not have any problem getting work when he comes to England. We are planning on staying in England for 5 years until my daughter goes to University and then we will return to Sharm to live happily ever after Posts: 1797 | From: By my husband's side | Registered: Nov 2007
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Hi Egypt 2007 - I stay in Delta Sharm with him when i visit. It is a 5*Complex that is residential, mostly Egyptian men with european wives. I have stayed there 4 times and i love it, this is where i hope to live when i go to Egypt in 5 years, we will buy an apartment there. When i am in Sharm we tend to go out socialising with his friends and their wives, you will find that Egyptians are very sociable people and you sometimes struggle to get time together alone. I have stayed with his famiy for a few days and also with hte family of his best friend in Cairo. They have always made me welcome and seem to accept my English culture. We attended a family wedding in Cairo last time i was there and i ended up dancing with the men!! i wonder what the women thought of this? My boyfriend tells me they were jealouse of my character wishing that they could be more outgoing like me - i don't know whether this is true but i trust him to tell me the truth. He is very westernised so he does not object to my behaviour although he struggles when i wear a skirt thinking that if a fall over all of Egypt will see my bottom ha ha. I just find this sweet as i tend to do my own thing anyway - he keeps telling me i am a crazy english woman and i will put him in the hospital, i say we will see!!!!
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reality sets in on all relationships. Right now you are in the honeymoon phase which lasts 12-18 months. You will have some culture differences and problems down the road no doubt about it. You need to take the blinders off.
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All relationships have problems - i was previously in a 17 year relationship with an English man who turned out to be a lying cheat who risked my health because he never used protection when he was sleeping around.
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quote:Originally posted by bettyN: reality sets in on all relationships. Right now you are in the honeymoon phase which lasts 12-18 months. You will have some culture differences and problems down the road no doubt about it. You need to take the blinders off.
Yes I agree with what was said above.
BTW, bettyN, have you been visiting Egypt last month?
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yes i was in Cairo in October, first time i Cairo would not go back. Did the pyramids and the Nile so don't see the point in returning to Cairo it is busy, noisy and dirty. Interesting culture though!
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: yes i was in Cairo in October, first time i Cairo would not go back. Did the pyramids and the Nile so don't see the point in returning to Cairo it is busy, noisy and dirty. Interesting culture though!
But Cairo is more Egypt than any of the resorts. Posts: 1339 | From: Om Leito | Registered: Aug 2006
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Yes i agree that is why i said it was interesting but once you have seen it you have seen it. I prefer the resorts with the beaches, pools, bars and tourists. I could quite happily live in Sharm but i could never live in Cairo, i have got Egyptian friends who say they hate the place in fact i seem able to tolerate Cairo more than they can but that's probably because the place intrigues me.
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: yes i was in Cairo in October, first time i Cairo would not go back. Did the pyramids and the Nile so don't see the point in returning to Cairo it is busy, noisy and dirty. Interesting culture though!
To get a real feel of your fiance's cultural and background you need to live in a "non-tourist" city for at least 1 year.
That should give you a reality check real quick!
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: yes i was in Cairo in October, first time i Cairo would not go back. Did the pyramids and the Nile so don't see the point in returning to Cairo it is busy, noisy and dirty. Interesting culture though!
But Cairo is more Egypt than any of the resorts.
I agree sashyra!!! And there is lots to do in Cairo . . . waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than those resorts! But some of us like to do more than sunbathe, etc, etc Posts: 895 | From: NorthTexas, USA | Registered: Mar 2004
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Sorry guys i could not cope in a non-tourist city i like the sunbahing tooooooo much. Forgot to mention though love the museums in Cairo it would take me a life time to see all the exhibits.
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fair enough let us know how he react when you tell him you have big problem you out of money and you need to move to egypt to live with him and he will need to support u in Egypt
i will give him around max of month to 2 to leave you its really up to your body figures and your boobs size sorry for breaking the bubble
by the way is he younger then you?
cheers amr
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No no staying in a village in Egypt would be the ultimate culture shock! I am sure you'd give up dancing with other men in no time and you just wanna leave!! Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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He already knows that i am out of money he has had to pay for the last two times that i have visited him Yes he is younger than me but so was my English ex i tend to go for younger men as i do not look my age. The plan is that he should come here for approx 5 years until my daughter is settled in uni and then we will return to live in Sharm and yes he will have to support me but he seems fine with this, the only problem he has is that he does not wish to come to england but i have told him its my way or the highway Posts: 1797 | From: By my husband's side | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: Anyway he is a physiotherapist so i am assuming that he will not have any problem getting work when he comes to England.
LOL: do you really think the UK NHS is going to employ an unqualified Egyptian massure.
Wake up Physio's do not work in tourist hotels. He stands very little chance of gaining a VISA to the UK and even if he is one of the lucky few that do, he is going to struggle to find work.
There is something seriously wrong if he has no problem with you dancing with other men at the wedding in Cairo. Don't think this means he is liberal and broad minded. The Egyptian man does not exist that will accept his wife dancing with other men. As for what the women thought...do you really want to know?
Its not your fault you have come in contact with a culture that you know little about but your post sadly shows you know so very little and this man is obviously just in for the fun of the ride.
Try what Amr suggests and see what his reaction is, only problem is he will know your not serious because you have a young daughter.
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Hi Tigerlily, i could not ive in a village in Egypt and yes you are correct it is a culture shock, i did not mind it for a short time to visit family and friends but i could never live there permanently, however i could live in Delta Sharm near Namma Bay that's more my cup of tea. He appears to understand this as he says he would never ask me to live anywhere else as he knows that i have many friends there and i am comfortable in the surroundings - you know pool, beach, bars, etc
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quote:Originally posted by F uckup Hotline What can i do for U: fair enough let us know how he react when you tell him you have big problem you out of money and you need to move to egypt to live with him and he will need to support u in Egypt
i will give him around max of month to 2 to leave you
Exactly.
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Penny, u misunderstand me he is a qualified Egyptian Physiotherapist and he previously worked in a Hospital. I am sure of this because i have a copy of his qualifications. He originally qualified as a masseur and worked in the tourist industry but because of the problems that some of the masseurs can be exposed to from tourists, Russian women in particular, he then trained as a physiotherapist and worked in the hospital unfortunately he realised that he could earn more money in the tourist industry because of the tips so he returned on the understanding that he only makes medical massage this reduces the number of women and men he is exposed to that request 'special massage' and get stroppy when refused. When i am in Sharm i got to work with him and work in the health club so i have witnessed the problems that some of these masseurs have in respect of this. What these people do not realise is that if they complain to the GM when they are refused 'special massage' the masseur can lose his job as the customer is always right. I have seen masseurs asked to take time off work and only return when the guest has left due to their refusing the requests of the guest.
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habeebey he needs only the visa , u can get into the relation but 4get abt love and u r the best bla bla bla bla ,he wants visa and u want fun so u can exchange ,try he doesnt abuse u more than a visa ,good luck if u need anything also in egypt i am here but all guys in sharmin hurghada seeks 2 abuse ladies ,i have many freinds were abused hope u dont be one of the ladies abused ,enjoy ur life but 4get abt a serious relation
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esso7 have you seen these Russian women ???? i think most men would refuse even their own husbands if not why are married women wanting to pay for 'special massage' ????? esecialy when they have a husband and children sitting by the pool !!!! i am not prudish but i think it is disgusting Posts: 1797 | From: By my husband's side | Registered: Nov 2007
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Makbeta i think you better go and take a cold shower before you explode Anyway you would never get past all the Russians to find the front of the queue - wot queue they don't believe in queueing do they ?????? Posts: 1797 | From: By my husband's side | Registered: Nov 2007
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still an egyptian guy would enjoy sex with a white meat especially if he will be paid ,these massage workers represent the lowest level in the egyptian society ,i have a british freind was abused by a masseur in hurghada ,pm me ur email if u wanna know more
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Honey, I was joking... Sounds exciting though - this 'special massage'....- some wouldn't hesitate a second,eh? Posts: 2807 | From: Europe | Registered: Nov 2007
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Makbeta r u insinuating that i am in receipt of 'special massage' u make me blush ha ha
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Habeeby even if he has an Egyptian qualification have you researched if the NHS will accept it? The UK qualification is at degree level now and involves alot of equipment that he may not have worked with in Egypt.
Are you aware that within his culture/ religion he should not be giving a massage to ANY women whether for medical reason or otherwise. Would he accept that you had a massage from another man?
Sadly Esso is right but you probably don't want to hear it. Keep it for fun but think carefully before you build your life and your daughters around it.
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Esso7 why do you assume all egyptian men want white meat??? Maybe they just want european women because they don't let themselves go when they marry like a lot of egyptian women. I have Egyptian friends who have married Egyptian and they marry this beautiful svelte dusky woman who turns into the side of a house within 1 year of marriage, no wonder they cover up!!!!! Posts: 1797 | From: By my husband's side | Registered: Nov 2007
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habeeby keep it 4 un but dont enter in a relation that will hurt u later ,enjoy the guy the pool ,the special massage hehe but really dont hurt urself with that relation
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Huh, this thread is turning a little ugly now....
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Penny his qualification is at degree level and i have researched this with friends who are currently employed as Nurses in the NHS i gave them a copy of his qualifications and i was told that they will be accepted, he also has references from the hospital in Cairo where he was employed for some time. I am also aware that in his culture he should not be giving massage to any woman and for this reason his family do not know they think he still works in the hospital - he just omitted to tell them. He would not accept that i had a massage from another man and although i think this is silly i accept this. Penny if this man was English would you be saying the same things to me ?????
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Special Massage I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling by this.
It's probably best that I don't ask what exactly a special massage is.
I guess sometimes ignorance really is bliss.
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Listen guys i apologise for what i said about Egyptian women and i appreciate your advice but i am not a silly teenager who is carried away with sweet words and a good looking man. I have made the decision for him to come to England so that i can get to know him properly before i commit to living in Egypt with him, if he comes to England and leaves me so be it..... I could have a similar experience in England with an English man - in fact i have some time ago. This is why i am cautiouse, i do not trust easily and unfortunately i have given this man a really hard time by double checking everything he has told me. I turn up in Sharm without giving him prior warning, i have met all his friends and family. I have taken my own friends with me to meet him and they have given him the third degree, as of this time he has passed all the tests therefore he is either exceptionally clever, very lucky or just genuine !!!!!
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i think he is very clever ,habeeby the visa might not be only reason but many others ,accompanying u ,having fun going to goodplaces ,believe me the msseurs in sharm represent the desperate egyptian from a bad back ground ,anyway i hope my words are wrong and god make u choose the better decision 4 u
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Habeeby no of course I would not say these things if he was English because you would be entering a relationship from a level playing field, same education and economic opportunities, and you would understand each others culture and language. He may speak perfect English but that doesn't mean he understands all you say.
The enormity of contemplating bringing this man from Egypt to the UK is such a big step and you have to take responsability for bringing him. Supposing he is just another VISA hunter think how that can impact on your country and other genuine applicants. What about your daughter and the effect on her.
Unfortunately you will find the system is stacked against you and the only way to get the reassurance you want about him is to live in Egypt with him, but that's not a viable option with a 13 year old daughter.
You are planning marriage next February but most of what you post points to very little understanding of his Egyptian culture. Your comments about Egyptian women are so insulting and show further how little you understand of their way of life.
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