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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Exiled: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by soozi: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Wanderer: [qb] I dont think its just about what the man or women might do while they are out having coffee, but WHY would they need to be out having coffee with another man/woman when they are married, and how would the husband/wife feel who is sitting at home? I would feel like my husband couldnt talk to me if he was out having coffee with another woman :( [/qb][/QUOTE]Thats quite a personal choice though - my two best friends are a married couple, and myself and the man would think nothing of going for a night out together - with the wife's knowledge, and there would be no problem at all. Its happened loads of times. We would go shopping together or out for a coffee, or a night round town. Often the wife would be there, but if she had plans, we would go alone! And they are one of the happiest couples I know :) [/qb][/QUOTE]Keep in mind soozi that some women and especially housewives with children will tend to be overly protective and are probably more insecure. It is 100% natural because they identify and address any situation by their perception of life whether it’s negative or positive. I don’t ascribe to such insecurities. My point was very simple because people love to get all Islamic hence I love to silence them with Islam itself. The prophet (saw) mentioned what I previously stated regarding mixed sexes … now was that an order (umr), nasiheh (advice) or was it a fact. Allah decreed that illegitimate sex is forbidden. Now we all know it will take a whole lot of treachery to actually reach that point from a coffee table at your local café. So from an Islamic point they need to reevaluate the situation because law transcends insecurities. Now from a personal point then people are entitled to say whatever. Again it is personal and really when people state such they are more or less speaking of themselves and which is perfectly fine. This is why i can't debate with some people. They influx so much personal baggage in debates that it defeats the purpose of a rational debate. I am trying to show leniency in Islam here and people want to impose the most stringent ahadith in addition to their grievances. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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