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I am was married earlier this year to an Egyptian, but have not yet filed for his K3 visa. I am American, and was planning on meeting the residency requirements to file for his K3 visa at the US Embassy in Cairo. Does anyone know if I am able to file the I-130 before I leave the country? If not, can anyone tell me how long it takes for the I-130 to be processed at the embassy in Cairo? I was told that it could take 6 months after completing the 6 month residency requirements for the I-130 to be approved. I am not sure if this is accurate or not. If anyone could help shed some light, I would be most grateful.
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if your american you need to file in the usa. it takes a while they have been faster these days though, your bestbet is to file a cr1 which is an I-130 but it will give you more options. he willget his green card in 2 weeks and will have permanant residency when he gets here, good luck to you, micky
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quote:Originally posted by mexikeya: I am was married earlier this year to an Egyptian, but have not yet filed for his K3 visa. I am American, and was planning on meeting the residency requirements to file for his K3 visa at the US Embassy in Cairo. Does anyone know if I am able to file the I-130 before I leave the country?
YOU MAY FILE THE PETITION BEFORE YOU LEAVE, BUT YOU MUST BE PRESENT AT THE FIRST INTERVIEW WITH HIM AND STILL MUST MEET THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
If not, can anyone tell me how long it takes for the I-130 to be processed at the embassy in Cairo?
IT TOOK MY HUSBAND AND I 6 MONTHS FROM THE FIRST INTERVIEW TO THE ENDING INTERVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF THE VISA IN THE PASSPORT. THIS WAS IN 2006 - THINGS HAVE CHANGED. NOT ALL APPLICANTS WILL TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
I was told that it could take 6 months after completing the 6 month residency requirements for the I-130 to be approved. I am not sure if this is accurate or not. If anyone could help shed some light, I would be most grateful.
quote:Originally posted by dolphin redsea: if your american you need to file in the usa. it takes a while they have been faster these days though, your bestbet is to file a cr1 which is an I-130 but it will give you more options. he willget his green card in 2 weeks and will have permanant residency when he gets here, good luck to you, micky
Hi Mickey,
She can file at the embassy also if she meets the residency requirements... The way it is done through the US service centers, ALWAYS takes forever.
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i know but ask ford perfect he had to start at the embassy in the usa first too. good luck though and keep me informed plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Yeah I wanted to start at the embassy too, but I couldn't fulfill the "contiguous" 6 month residency requirement (ie not set foot out of egypt for even one hour as that would reset the timer). I was able to do 2-3 months at a time but not more (work and stuff to attend stateside, couldn't leave it for that long). Also, filing at the Embassy had the same waiting process through the USCIS (they would forward it there first before doing anything else).
So I filed stateside a month after we got married, USCIS took about 4 months approval for us, then was sent to the NVC at the end of August. I was back to egypt in June during the wait for the approval, came back to states in Sep. to do the NVC stuff.
After waiting for document/mail fiasco with NVC, I got them to expedite it to the embassy in cairo before they had all the docs. Embassy now has all the docs and scheduled her interview for Dec. 24th. I'm going back to Cairo on Dec 11 to be with her until she can fly with me, which is hopefully shortly after her interview. It would be great if they were nice and gave her the visa on the interview day, but I am not holding my breath. I'm guessing it will be a few days to a week after.
My recommendation would be to file at the embassy only if you plan on staying there until he gets his visa... which could take up to 6 months just for the USCIS approval, then another couple months for the normal visa document collection/interview process at the embassy. Otherwise I'd just file stateside, you don't have to be in the states to file or while waiting for USCIS, I believe the Chicago drop box has a fedex location you can send the I-130 to... do a little digging on the state.gov site and you'll find it. Once it gets to the NVC stage though you will need to come stateside to send them the docs (or have a friend to play mail proxy for you). International post mail is highly unreliable, and thats all the NVC uses. (they dont use fedex/ups/dhl etc) So if you could fedex stuff to a friend and have them snail mail it for you stateside.. also have that same friend as your SO's agent. Thats the only caveat with the NVC.
Hope that helps you with a decision on which place to start. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
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There is also the I-129 K3 visa... it's maybe 1 or 2 months faster at the end of the process (the NVC forwards it straight to the embassy as there is nothing to collect from you), but it's a temporary visa and you'll have to go through the green card process stateside (but he will be there with you). The I-130 or (CR1) basically he gets the green card when he gets here.
One thing I didn't know when starting this is you can file both I-129 and I-130, whichever is approved first you use to get him here. Wish I would have known that, could have saved a month or so, but paperwork might have been a nightmare on that route.
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quote:Originally posted by Ford Prefect (not perfect): , Edit:
There is also the I-129 K3 visa... it's maybe 1 or 2 months faster at the end of the process (the NVC forwards it straight to the embassy as there is nothing to collect from you), but it's a temporary visa and you'll have to go through the green card process stateside (but he will be there with you). The I-130 or (CR1) basically he gets the green card when he gets here.
One thing I didn't know when starting this is you can file both I-129 and I-130, whichever is approved first you use to get him here. Wish I would have known that, could have saved a month or so, but paperwork might have been a nightmare on that route.
We filed the I-129 and I-130 at the same time.... the 130 was approved long before the 129. Seems to me the 129 is just an extra waste of money!!
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quote:Originally posted by Ford Prefect (not perfect): Yeah I wanted to start at the embassy too, but I couldn't fulfill the "contiguous" 6 month residency requirement (ie not set foot out of egypt for even one hour as that would reset the timer). I was able to do 2-3 months at a time but not more (work and stuff to attend stateside, couldn't leave it for that long). Also, filing at the Embassy had the same waiting process through the USCIS (they would forward it there first before doing anything else).
So I filed stateside a month after we got married, USCIS took about 4 months approval for us, then was sent to the NVC at the end of August. I was back to egypt in June during the wait for the approval, came back to states in Sep. to do the NVC stuff.
After waiting for document/mail fiasco with NVC, I got them to expedite it to the embassy in cairo before they had all the docs. Embassy now has all the docs and scheduled her interview for Dec. 24th. I'm going back to Cairo on Dec 11 to be with her until she can fly with me, which is hopefully shortly after her interview. It would be great if they were nice and gave her the visa on the interview day, but I am not holding my breath. I'm guessing it will be a few days to a week after.
My recommendation would be to file at the embassy only if you plan on staying there until he gets his visa... which could take up to 6 months just for the USCIS approval, then another couple months for the normal visa document collection/interview process at the embassy. Otherwise I'd just file stateside, you don't have to be in the states to file or while waiting for USCIS, I believe the Chicago drop box has a fedex location you can send the I-130 to... do a little digging on the state.gov site and you'll find it. Once it gets to the NVC stage though you will need to come stateside to send them the docs (or have a friend to play mail proxy for you). International post mail is highly unreliable, and thats all the NVC uses. (they dont use fedex/ups/dhl etc) So if you could fedex stuff to a friend and have them snail mail it for you stateside.. also have that same friend as your SO's agent. Thats the only caveat with the NVC.
Hope that helps you with a decision on which place to start. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
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There is also the I-129 K3 visa... it's maybe 1 or 2 months faster at the end of the process (the NVC forwards it straight to the embassy as there is nothing to collect from you), but it's a temporary visa and you'll have to go through the green card process stateside (but he will be there with you). The I-130 or (CR1) basically he gets the green card when he gets here.
One thing I didn't know when starting this is you can file both I-129 and I-130, whichever is approved first you use to get him here. Wish I would have known that, could have saved a month or so, but paperwork might have been a nightmare on that route.
I have been married to two Egyptian men with two different immigration experiences. The first one was done via US Service Center - Texas. They are slow. It took several months for the I-130 to be approved. Then the documents were sent to embassy in Egypt and he received notice of his interview approximately 9 months later. He got his visa outside of his passport about 2 months after that.
I lived in Egypt for 2 years with my current husband and we filed together at the embassy. It took a total of 6 months for his visa to be put in his passport. That was Feb 2006 to July 2006. February received an appointment with embassy. One week later we had the first interview for the I-130 petition. It was approved on the spot. We were given a packet to prepare for second interview. It took us until April 17th to obtain everything needed and it was sent by TNT back to embassy. A second interview date was scheduled on July 6th. Visa approved at that interview and his passport was held and then mailed back with visa inside on the 11th of July. Left Egypt in September. Everybody will have similiar experiences but different circumstances. You are married to a female and that makes a big difference to them when it comes to issuing visas. GOOD LUCK!Posts: 525 | From: USA | Registered: Sep 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Ford Prefect (not perfect): , Edit:
There is also the I-129 K3 visa... it's maybe 1 or 2 months faster at the end of the process (the NVC forwards it straight to the embassy as there is nothing to collect from you), but it's a temporary visa and you'll have to go through the green card process stateside (but he will be there with you). The I-130 or (CR1) basically he gets the green card when he gets here.
One thing I didn't know when starting this is you can file both I-129 and I-130, whichever is approved first you use to get him here. Wish I would have known that, could have saved a month or so, but paperwork might have been a nightmare on that route.
We filed the I-129 and I-130 at the same time.... the 130 was approved long before the 129. Seems to me the 129 is just an extra waste of money!!
Hi Samia,
The I-129 is for fiance visas. The I-130 is the application for relatives. The fiance takes a really long time. I have a friend that applied for that prior to me marrying my husband. He was still waiting when we left Egypt. Posts: 525 | From: USA | Registered: Sep 2005
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Snapdragon.... if I remember rightly, the 129 is supposed to get a fiancee or wife into the US while waiting for a 130 to be approved. My 130 was approved long before the 129.
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the I129 is a finace visa, the k3 is a little different,go with the straight cr1 and you wont have any problems except for all the paper work, but its so worth it
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go to visa journey.com website. It will explain the different visas. K3 was suppose to be faster like a fiance visa but your married, the K3 was suppose to be alot faster than CR1 but it is only maybe 1 month or 2 months faster. If he comes on a K3 it will take him 3 or 4 months to get to started working and its too depressing for them. So cr1 when they come they can quickly get to working. The whole process takes about a year so hurry and file the papers. good luck
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On the visajourney website, there is a forum called MENA ( middle east north Africa)in the sub forums and there are many ppl from usa chatting in those about Egypt etc. and their timelines issues questions etc. Im sure there are many there that did the process from Egypt.
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you cant NOT do the process fro egypt if you are american, it needs to be done in the usa
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Some have direct consular filed from Egypt but you have to live there 6 months and have 6 months residency in Egypt. Unless they changed the rule for Egypt recently...and are no longer letting people do that, I didnt know then.
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Step 2: After obtaining the notarized statement from the U.S. Embassy, you must visit one of the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Authentication Offices.
Addresses: Gameit el Dowal el Arabia Street, Mohandessin, Giza; Ahmed Said Street, Abbassia; or Sabak Street next to the Maryland Gardens in Heliopolis. The office hours are Saturday through Thursday from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will certify the statement for a fee of 11.00LE.
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The Ministry of Justice will register your marriage. Forms to be completed at the marriage court can only be obtained on the wedding day or the day before. The following are required: Proof of identity (a passport) for both parties, a photocopy of the passport data page, the Egyptian entry visa and the residency stamp if you obtained one. Egyptian I.D. (Egyptian passport or the National ID) and a photocopy of it if one of the parties is Egyptian Five personal photos for each party. A 50.00LE “Ta’meen Igtimaei” stamp (purchased at any Egyptian post office) Two male witnesses with identification documents (passport or I.D. card) must be present to sign the marriage documents. It is preferable to bring your own witnesses, such as friends or travel agents. Original proof of termination of previous marriage if you were married before. No authentication or translation is required.
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You can do the process from Egypt if you have residency in Egypt for 6 months and you cant leave in those 6 months and come to the USA and back not even for a day in the 6 months.
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if you can stay there i guess you can but ford perfect just went thru this so he would be the person to contact
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You CAN apply for your spouse via the US Embassy in Egypt.... BUT you must have lived there for 6 months prior to applying for your spouse. IF you leave Egypt you must start again.
Very simple explanation just like the website states. Posts: 525 | From: USA | Registered: Sep 2005
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quote: After waiting for document/mail fiasco with NVC, I got them to expedite it to the embassy in cairo before they had all the docs. Embassy now has all the docs and scheduled her interview for Dec. 24th.
The NVC finished my husband's case in August. And he still has not received an interview date. How do you get them to expedite? They told me they do not send the file/documents until the embassy schedules the interview? Do you think that's true?
quote: Once it gets to the NVC stage though you will need to come stateside to send them the docs (or have a friend to play mail proxy for you). International post mail is highly unreliable, and thats all the NVC uses. (they dont use fedex/ups/dhl etc)
Is that really true they really use regular mail to mail the embassy our documents? If they wait until the embassy schedules his interview, the embassy will possibly not receive his file in time for the interview.
God this is a screwy mess and everyone has a different scenario so it makes it so hard to judge your own circumstansces.
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quote: After waiting for document/mail fiasco with NVC, I got them to expedite it to the embassy in cairo before they had all the docs. Embassy now has all the docs and scheduled her interview for Dec. 24th.
The NVC finished my husband's case in August. And he still has not received an interview date. How do you get them to expedite? They told me they do not send the file/documents until the embassy schedules the interview? Do you think that's true?
quote: Once it gets to the NVC stage though you will need to come stateside to send them the docs (or have a friend to play mail proxy for you). International post mail is highly unreliable, and thats all the NVC uses. (they dont use fedex/ups/dhl etc)
Is that really true they really use regular mail to mail the embassy our documents? If they wait until the embassy schedules his interview, the embassy will possibly not receive his file in time for the interview.
God this is a screwy mess and everyone has a different scenario so it makes it so hard to judge your own circumstansces.
Wow that's an awful long time to wait between being approved and getting an interview date! Our interview date was issued less than 3 weeks after my husband sent in his packet 4. They must be really backed up over there!
Also, the I129 isn't just for fiance visa, the combination of the I130 and the I129 = the K3 visa. The I129 was historically used to speed up the visa issuance while they wait for the I130 but for the past two years or so it seems like both take the exact amount of time to get approved, therefor it is much better to do the I130 imho.
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quote: After waiting for document/mail fiasco with NVC, I got them to expedite it to the embassy in cairo before they had all the docs. Embassy now has all the docs and scheduled her interview for Dec. 24th.
The NVC finished my husband's case in August. And he still has not received an interview date. How do you get them to expedite? They told me they do not send the file/documents until the embassy schedules the interview? Do you think that's true?
quote: Once it gets to the NVC stage though you will need to come stateside to send them the docs (or have a friend to play mail proxy for you). International post mail is highly unreliable, and thats all the NVC uses. (they dont use fedex/ups/dhl etc)
Is that really true they really use regular mail to mail the embassy our documents? If they wait until the embassy schedules his interview, the embassy will possibly not receive his file in time for the interview.
God this is a screwy mess and everyone has a different scenario so it makes it so hard to judge your own circumstansces.
Actually the rules are laid out by visa type, yes everyone's situation is going to be slightly different, but the processes stay the same with respect to which visa you're applying for.
The NVC communicates via regular mail to both parties, both stateside and Egypt for document collection from those parties. This is why it's best for the immigrant to choose their spouse as the agent (or someone with a US address) as this speeds things up.
When the NVC has satisfied collecting all documents, they close the case at that office and forward the entire case to the embassy via DHL. This takes about 4-5 days and another day or two for the embassy to look at it. (my own experience)
No it's not true about the interview date. When the embassy receives the case from the NVC, they will review it and schedule. If there are any missing docs they will try to contact whichever party is responsible for the docs... usually the applicant/immigrant. They will also request the applicant to take a medical exam.
As far as expediting goes, it's done on a case by case basis depending on the reason for the request. If it's just missing one another I don't think they will approve an expedite. Note that I only got an expedite from the NVC in forwarding the case to the embassy not for getting a fast interview. The NVC's job is just to collect documents and fees. I merely stated my position about the length of time it was taking for them to collect these docs from me, and my having to be in the states to do this while my wife was ALONE in a country rampant with sexual harrasment and voiced my concern about that. The embassy seen my point of view on that and allowed the document collection process to skip the NVC and go directly to them. I am now going back to Cairo to be with her until she has a visa in hand, since I don't have to be stateside for any more silly docs heh
I sent the remaining docs directly to the embassy via fedex when I found out the case was forwarded. My wife also already had her medical exam done before the embassy even had the case. I had also communicated this to the consulars office via email so they would know she was ready for the interview and not generate the standard "go to the doctor, tell us when your ready" letters. I believe the completeness of our case and my communications efforts sped up getting her on the schedule. There's a pdf of which doctor they have to go to on the embassy and state.gov websites.
You might also check out visajourney.com LOTS of info there and people that have gone through the same thing.
It's also important that you gave good contact info for your spouse on the documents.. it's possible they have it scheduled and letter sent but he/she not received it. You can check online if your case is on the schedule here: http://cairo.usembassy.gov/consular/iv8.htm
You can always email them directly and ask what the status is. ConsularCairoIV@state.gov put your case number in the subject, other identifying info in the body (basically follow the same rules as emailing the NVC).
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bravo FORD, good luck with her visa,i know you 2 have it all together, and good information here .you did your homework looking forward to seeing you again, call us when you get to JFK
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Thank you Ford Perfect. You gave a lot of good info. Actually, I have good news, his interview was already scheduled at the time I posted my questions here and I didn't know it yet. It's scheduled in January. Wish us luck!
I am a little confused about whether he needs to take another set of original documents to the interview? The NVC letter check list states that every reguired document had been received and accepted.
However, the website says to bring original documets to the interview. But we don't want to go to the expense of getting another set if they don't need it. I don't see why they would unless they lose them. He has copies of all originals to take but when obtaining all his doc. he did not get duplicates.
That was probably a mistake but we found it to be a little bit of strain on our budget.
Hope all continues to go well for you.
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The letters are boilerplate standard, he only needs to take what they don't already have. for example, birth certificate, police report, or medical exam. More than likely just the medical exam if you already sent his other stuff.
Great news, wish you good luck!
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Thanks so much FP that's a big relief. And good luck to you and your wife too. I'm so happy 3 years of torment finally over. Please God!
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