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hey guys im a bit confused and would like some help im planning to marry my egptian lover very soon and move to egypt with my 2 children problem is my childrens father he doesnt see them but whats the chances and what do i have to do so its legal for them please help as i feel this could ruin my marriage before its even started
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Who has legal custody of your kids? If you do, then I would think it's legal to keep them with you when you move. Ethical? I would still try to foster a relationship with their father.
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thanks guys i have legal custody of the children but he has parental responsibility for 1 of them the father of my children hasnt wanted to know my children at all but hes a evil so and so and i know he will try to stop me being happy whats the best route to go down so its legal? please help
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If your husband has got parental responsibilty, then you should seek his permission to enable you to let the children leave the country, even if it is just for a holiday. i know it is not ideal but he does have his rights even if he is not a good person and does not see the children often.
maybe you should contact a solicitor before you even decide to mention to him what you are planning to do. it is best to know what to do should he refuse.
you should see a solicitor who specialises in family work not just any old solicitor.
have you known your husband to be long?
have your children met him yet?
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u really need to contact a lawyer thats yr best bet to resolve yr issure cas chances are he is american and dont want whats best for u jealousy is another issue he probably will have and the fear of his kids loving another man u have legal custody girl get a lawyer tell him yr whole story if he cant help u keep lookin tilll u find someone better
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IF you have sole custody i think you can do as you wish, If you share custody in anyway then you will have to find a way to get sole custody or get his parental rights removed, as you will have to have his signature to get their passports i believe. I think the only way around his signature is if you have papers showing you have sole custody and he has no right to see them.
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once you have parental responsibility you cannot have it taken away from you, unless the child or children are adopted by someone else. that is, if the child is made the subjuect of a care order to social services or if the children's father agrees to the children being adopted by another man (your husband; which i guess is highly unlikely.
you really need to see a lawyer as i previously mentioned.
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thanks guys me and the ex are fighting in court at the moment my daughter already has a passport im going to get my sons sorted before the end court date im hoping the judge will favour me and not give that b***ard contact with the children but you never knowim really scared my children are 3 and 1 so they will adapt very easily ill have to take him to court and prove they have a better life in egypt thats all i can think of thanks for ur advice guys its truelly helped
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another thing to consider are yr children how will the adapt to living in egypt as appoosed to usa being so far away from what they know?and from their families?i dont wanna pry but have u thought about all of that too a big culture shock may not be good for them
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im from the u.k and shortly my parents are moving to spain my children are young enough to adapt well i hope so if it doesnt work out in egypt ive always got a house in spain to go to i just really dont want to be here anymore my future hubby is in egypt im here its really really hard having this sort of relationship
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quote:Originally posted by advocate: once you have parental responsibility you cannot have it taken away from you, unless the child or children are adopted by someone else. that is, if the child is made the subjuect of a care order to social services or if the children's father agrees to the children being adopted by another man (your husband; which i guess is highly unlikely.
you really need to see a lawyer as i previously mentioned.
Yes talk to a lawyer but sorry you can have parental rights taken away from you. My best friend in florida just went through this with her brother and girlfriend, the girlfriend's parental rights were taken away from her and full custody given to my friends brother, she is not allowed contact and also has no legal obligation or right to the child.
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quote:Originally posted by advocate: once you have parental responsibility you cannot have it taken away from you, unless the child or children are adopted by someone else. that is, if the child is made the subjuect of a care order to social services or if the children's father agrees to the children being adopted by another man (your husband; which i guess is highly unlikely.
you really need to see a lawyer as i previously mentioned.
Yes talk to a lawyer but sorry you can have parental rights taken away from you. My best friend in florida just went through this with her brother and girlfriend, the girlfriend's parental rights were taken away from her and full custody given to my friends brother, she is not allowed contact and also has no legal obligation or right to the child.
They are in England, MH. The laws might be different.
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quote:Originally posted by mlebev: thanks guys me and the ex are fighting in court at the moment my daughter already has a passport im going to get my sons sorted before the end court date im hoping the judge will favour me and not give that b***ard contact with the children but you never knowim really scared my children are 3 and 1 so they will adapt very easily ill have to take him to court and prove they have a better life in egypt thats all i can think of thanks for ur advice guys its truelly helped
You don't say where you are planning to live in Egypt, but I wonder if you have thought about the issue of schooling for your children. Children of foreign parents cannot attend state schools, and, while this may be a blessing because the standards in those schools are not very high, it does mean that you will have pay for them to go to a private school. This can be very expensive, especially if you want to send them to one that had a good reputation and offers a stable education.
Yes, the kids will adapt to life in Egypt if they are very young, but will it be a better life, and will you adapt and be able to accept the education that they might be offered. This is one of the biggest problems most foreign parents face in Egypt.
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thanks for that info newcomer i didnt know that i would have to pay for a school for them thats something to consider i know a little about the education they will be offered and its much better than the one they have here im going to do some research to the schools there now thanks guys u been a great help and as for parental responsibility its the judge who will decide if he can have it taken away just hope he does wish me luck guys
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quote:Originally posted by mlebev: thanks for that info newcomer i didnt know that i would have to pay for a school for them thats something to consider i know a little about the education they will be offered and its much better than the one they have here
Not sure who is giving you the information about the schools here in Egypt or where you are planning to live, and I guess it depends on what you consider a "better" education, but people here in Cairo are paying from around 9,000 LE (774.071 GBP) a year per child for what they are describing as mediocre private education to 40,000 LE (3,440.314 GBP) for the better schools. This obviously will mean that either you or your future husband will have to be earning a very good salary for Egypt to be able to afford that.
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The best thing you need to do is contact a solicitor just as recommended above. Your starting point should be the Citizens Advice Bureau as they can offer you the best guidance in terms of a solicitor and the procedure. You say your ex has parental rights for one child - is he paying alimony/child support etc on time? If he's on time it might be difficult to take the child he is responsible for away but if he isn't you could have an argument in your favour. He does have to give his permission otherwise.
There are a couple of things I really want to bring to your attention: * Going up in front of the judge and saying you want to move to Egypt will not put you in a favourable light especially with all the national security problems we're having at the moment; * When you move out of the UK for more than 6 months (the last time I checked) you lose your right to the NHS and all its benefits. Your GP might not know when you leave but the judge might have proceedings go ahead that list your name as living abroad. Medical care is not cheap nor particularly advanced in Egypt. People regularly travel abroad for treatment for serious conditions: Cancer - the UK or Mayo Clinic; skeletal surgery - Germany etc (so I've been told by my colleagues at work). You pay each time you visit the doctor and insurance is not as widely available as in the UK. In effect you will have less right to the NHS than asylum seekers (I'm still reeling from the effect of that one especially after paying taxes and social security for more than 10 years!); * Education standards in state schools are no good. I don't know if as foreigners your children can attend but you will be forced to pay for their education to reach a semi decent level - sorry I don't mean to knock Egyptian schools but let's call a spade a spade; * Your fiance's family may not be as accepting of you as you may think particularly when you have children from another man and there are problems already. Again, let's call a spade a spade. Lots of men of lots of races don't like other men's children; * You will find it difficult to adjust if you've not lived anywhere other than the UK.
I'm sorry I don't mean to knock you but you really have to be sure of what you are doing. I've been here a little under 3 years and I'm finding it bloody difficult - and I'm half Egyptian though my dad. So I grew up with an Egyptian influence but it was still a huge culture shock when I came here - it still is!
Good luck.
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thanks deeds ur advice is really helpfull my ex doesnt and hasnt paid any child support at all and i know that my parents will pay for the childrens education as they have accounts for that purpose im going to give this some seriouse thought sorry about my spelling im still half asleep
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