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Hello brian04, Well, what you noticed is completely right, but also there are many cases that you will find Egyptian women involved with Foreign men as a friend or married or just having a fun time, let me tell you about some of them which I know by my self, I know more that 10 Egyptian women married with Foreign men and I know many have just friend ship with Foreign men. But still few people because here as you said the mentality here still gives all the rights to the man only but we are on the way, yes going slowly like turtle but there are some progress especially with the woman who works in international companies they have the opportunity to meet those Foreign men otherwise where else they can meet?
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quote:Originally posted by brian04: What is the deal between Foreign men and Egyptian Women both muslim and christian.
I noticed in this forum it is all right for Egyptian Men to date or marry Foreign Women.
But how come Egyptian Women cannot even been seen with a Western man?
Is it possible for Egyptian Women and Western Men to be just friends?
Isn't there a few open minded Islamic or Christian Egyptian Women in Egypt?
Hope to hear some views.
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hi there i just wana say something well every body is ready for decent frriendship it doesnt matter with u what does matter the person it self for me iam egyptain i dont mind having foringers frindes unless they r respectable and decent well ok thats not only for foringers but only for egyptains thanks if u really wana have a decent friendship u will Posts: 19 | From: cairo egypt | Registered: Feb 2004
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brian04 There are many points in order to reply on your questions:
According to Islam, Muslim males can marry Christian or Jewish wives. Muslim Females cannot marry except Muslim husbands.
Egypt is a still a conservative society particularly for women. Even if a woman is open-minded, she can't just defy the society and go against its norms.
Though, I don't see a current problem in Egyptian women befriending foreign male, however it is up to each one's own traditions.
The fact that you see many Egyptian men dating or marrying foreign women is attributed to many reasons: one is that majority of Egyptians leaving the country for work is male. Majority of Egyptians working in tourism is male, because they are required by the society to collect lots of money for well-being and establishing families. Generally, the majority of the labor force is male.
I just wanna know what made you come with such conclusions that you have written. You must have experienced something. ------------------------ Raymonwww.youregypt.com
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But the truth is there are lots of Egyptians women ( Muslim and Christian) dating, married or friends with foreign men. Take me for example, my best friend is a French man, and I am friends with a lot of foreign men from school. I also know many many Egyptian women who are married or dating foreign men. It just not very visible, how could it be in a country with a population of almost 80 million. You probably hear more of the cases of Egyptian men marrying Foreign women, because of the associated scandals.
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But there are also families, who trying to murder their daugthers when they realize that she is engaged with a Christian European guy. I had a schoolfriend, Suad, who had this problem. She went somewhere in Europe, no one knows where, together with her boyfriend right before after her highschool examn, because her father hit her so badly that she had to go to hospital for one week. So she decided for love and against islamic tradition. But she had to leave her whole family to be together with her love. Her father was found guilty after two years, of having tried to kill the father of the German boyfriend. That's the other side of islamic traditional thinking, even in Europe, even among families from which you think they are very modern and open-minded, as I thought from her family, because we had a good contact before she had to leave.
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Moslems in the West are not necessarily less traditional than other Moslems. On the contrary, people away from their communities are more conservative and trying hard to preserve their norms, cultural believes ad heritage . There are more sensitive to is called “western cultural invasion” .
Above I mentioned that my best friend is French. He is also a Jew, and you will not imagine the endless discussions we had, as he is convinced that his duty towards his family is to marry a Jew women. So not only Muslim are objecting mixed marriages.
quote:Originally posted by Mooly El Din: Moslems in the West are not necessarily less traditional than other Moslems. On the contrary, people away from their communities are more conservative and trying hard to preserve their norms, cultural believes ad heritage . There are more sensitive to is called “western cultural invasion?.
Above I mentioned that my best friend is French. He is also a Jew, and you will not imagine the endless discussions we had, as he is convinced that his duty towards his family is to marry a Jew women. So not only Muslim are objecting mixed marriages.
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I truly believe love has no barriers. If people not matter what race or religious background can really work it out. If they try hard enough. I think most people here on this forum would not agree with me.
quote:Originally posted by Mooly El Din: Moslems in the West are not necessarily less traditional than other Moslems. On the contrary, people away from their communities are more conservative and trying hard to preserve their norms, cultural believes ad heritage . There are more sensitive to is called “western cultural invasion” .
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You're 100% right!....Sometimes in the west Muslims are more religious.Here in SA it is too an extreme where even Muslim guys are not allowed to marry Christian or any other religion ...unless they convert.It is simply not accepted period!Growing up in a society like that all you're life....makes it very hard to accept anything else.For me visiting Egypt was a very rude awakening since I was fed all these "beautiful pictures" of the Arab world....yeah right.Then I came to Egypt...OMG Russian prostitutes,gays and what not all over the place.Imagine my shock.. ...not what I expected but in any case I got used to the idea that there is no such thing as a true Muslim country but I still love Egypt...with all its bruises!
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I think she means that lots of foreign men go to Russia or online dating agencies to meet their "pearl". just do a google search: marry russian woman, you ll see. ON the other hand, lots of Russian women come to Egypt for the opportunities they have with men.
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I have a question too: are there any men in Egypt who Do NOt want children?
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quote:Originally posted by akshar: Two things to bear in mind
1) Islam commands muslims to have children
") There is no social security/pensions/sick plan for the majority of Egyptians. They rely on their children
So an Egyptian man that doesn't want children would have to be Christian with a large pension fund :rolleyes
Akshar agree completly! where were you with comments like this on the age thread! Of course there are ways around this as we all know. Great post Akshar!
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...not what I expected but in any case I got used to the idea that there is no such thing as a true Muslim country but I still love Egypt...with all its bruises! 
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