quote:Hundreds of newspapers across the US are dropping the “Dilbert” comic strip after creator Scott Adams called Black people a hate group and advised white people to avoid them.
Since Friday, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the USA Today Network, which includes more than 200 local papers, have denounced racist comments Adams made last week” on an episode of his web series, Real Coffee with Scott Adams.
Though he rose to fame with the workplace comic, which according to its distributor has appeared in more than 2,000 newspapers in 65 countries, in recent years, Adams has become known for his far-right fanbase. He’s been a vocal supporter of Donald Trump and appeared regularly on Alex Jones’s Infowars show, while also drawing criticism for his comments about women and the Holocaust.
On Wednesday, he was discussing a poll from Rasmussen Reports, which found 53% of Black adults agreed with the phrase “It’s OK to be white,” and 26% of Black adults said they disagreed. According to the Anti-Defamation League, the phrase was popularized in 2017 as a trolling campaign on the 4chan message board, then adopted by white supremacists.
“If nearly half of all Blacks are not OK with White people — according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll — that’s a hate group, and I don’t want anything to do with them,” Adams said in the video.
Adams continued by advising white people to “get the hell away from Black people,” saying he moved to a neighborhood with a low Black population, claiming there is a correlation between the problems in a community and the race of people who live there.
Adams went on by announcing that he would no longer “help” Black Americans, saying “it makes no sense to help Black Americans if you’re white.”
“I think it makes no sense whatsoever as a white citizen of America to try and help Black citizens anymore, it doesn't make sense, It's no longer a rational impulse,” Adams said. “So I’m going to back off cause it doesn't seem like it pays off, like I've been doing it all my life and the only outcome is that I get called a racist.”
I remember him endorsing "Intelligent Design" creationism a long while back, so I've known for a while that he was off his rocker, but this might be how he really shoots himself in the foot. Can't say I feel bad for him at all, though.
Posted by Lanoforge (Member # 23087) on :
Nothing he has said was racist. In fact, prominent black figures have advocated separation of the races. One example is Minister Farrakhan.
Posted by Archeopteryx (Member # 23193) on :
Seems that at least a couple of black YouTubers agree with Scott Adams
I found it funny how he acted as though black people have no reason to feel the way they do.
Posted by Lanoforge (Member # 23087) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tazarah: I found it funny how he acted as though black people have no reason to feel the way they do.
his issue are the assaults black men are committing against nonblacks.
Posted by Tazarah (Member # 23365) on :
^ Europeans have been assaulting people on every continent since around the 1400s. I'm not condoning assault, but let's not be hypocrites.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Scott Adams is putting out new videos now on his own youtube channel but I haven't watched any
His latest multi-topic includes "J6 Narrative Dissolves" (and other topics)
and the one before that includes "Media Manipulation" and "Bail Reform" etc
Posted by Breadlum (Member # 23648) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tazarah: ^ Europeans have been assaulting people on every continent since around the 1400s. I'm not condoning assault, but let's not be hypocrites.
"Assaulting" may be underselling it by just a bit, but well said nonetheless
I don't see how a person could have knowledge any of the last half millennium of World History and still say with a straight face that Black and Brown folks have some unique propensity for violence. Goes to show how strong confirmation bias (among other things) is in general, and just how effective propaganda is at shaping peoples' worldview.
Next to impossible to solve problems when you misdiagnose or misattribute the causes.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Breadlum:
quote:Originally posted by Tazarah: ^ Europeans have been assaulting people on every continent since around the 1400s. I'm not condoning assault, but let's not be hypocrites.
"Assaulting" may be underselling it by just a bit, but well said nonetheless
I don't see how a person could have knowledge any of the last half millennium of World History and still say with a straight face that Black and Brown folks have some unique propensity for violence. Goes to show how strong confirmation bias (among other things) is in general, and just how effective propaganda is at shaping peoples' worldview.
Next to impossible to solve problems when you misdiagnose or misattribute the causes.
quote:Originally posted by BrandonP: You can hear Scott Adams in his own words here.
^^^ this is the short clip on twitter
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His original video on youtube:
Episode 2027 Scott Adams: AI Goes Woke, I Accidentally Joined A Hate Group, Trump, Policing Schools
well Rasmussen poll uh had a provocative little poll today they said do you agree or disagree with the statement uh it's okay to be white that was an actual question Rasmussen asked you know white and black voters and and probably others uh do you disagree or agree with a statement it's okay to be white 26 percent of blacks said no it's not okay to be white 21 weren't sure Adam together that is 47 of black respondents were not willing to say it's okay to be white that that actually that's like a real poll this just happened did you have any idea would you have imagined that that could have happened so I realized um as you know I've been identifying as black for a while years now because I like you know I like to be on the winning team....
I ACCIDENATLLY JOINED A HATE GROUP
...and I like to help and I always thought well if you help the black community that's sort of the biggest lever you know you could you can find the the biggest benefit so I thought well that's the hardest thing and the biggest benefit so I'd like to focus a lot of my life resources in helping black Americans so much so that I started identifying as black to just be on the team I was helping but it turns out that nearly half of that team doesn't think I'm okay to be white which is of course why I identified as black because so I could be on the winning team for a while but I have to say this is the first political poll that ever changed my activities I don't know that that's ever happened before you know normally you see a poll you just look at it you go ah whatever yeah oh this is interesting what other people think but as of today I'm going to re-identify as white because I don't want to be a member of a hate group I had accidentally joined a hate group so if if you know nearly half of All Blacks are not okay with white people according to this poll not according to me according to this poll that's a hate group that's a hate group and I don't want to have anything to do with them and I would say you know based on the current way things are going the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people just get the away wherever you have to go just get away because there's no fixing this this can't be fixed right this can't be fixed you just have to escape so that's what I did I went to a neighborhood where you know I have a very low black population because unfortunately that you know there's High correlation between the density and this is going to Don Lemon by the way um so here I'm just quoting Don Lemon when when he notes that the when he lived in a mostly black neighborhood there were a bunch of problems that he didn't see in white neighborhoods so even Don Lemon sees a big difference in your own quality of living based on where you live and who's there so I think it makes no sense whatsoever as a white citizen of America to try to help black citizens anymore it doesn't make sense it's no longer a rational impulse and so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna back off from being helpful to Black America because it doesn't seem like it pays off like I've been doing it all my life and have been the only outcome is I get called a racist that's the only outcome it makes no sense to help black Americans if you're white the the it's over don't don't even think it's worth trying totally not trying now we should be friendly like I'm not saying start a war or you know do anything bad nothing like that I'm just saying get away just get away...
GET AWAY
...and here's my take on all of it everybody who focuses uh their priority on education does well if if anybody in the black community focuses on education they'll do well as well because the the system allows that if they don't I can't make that my problem anymore it just can't be my problem it can't be my problem if the solution is so clear so available and people don't want to take it it's just not my problem anymore so I reside I resigned from the hate group called Black Americans according to the Rasmussen poll 46 percent of them don't think white people are okay just being white and there we go you didn't expect that today did you but the most helpful thing I can do is to say I'm not going to help do you understand that continuing to help in in that sort of you know classic oh let me help you give you a you know a lift up give you a hand you know Mentor you hire you prefer you I'm going to stop all of that I'm done with all of that yeah no it didn't work the only thing that will work is to say you got to fix your own problem you know how you know how to do it everybody else figured it out I'm not going to speculate you know why you're not doing it I'm not going to speculate why there's a difference I'm just going to say it's available to everybody just pick it up it's free money focus on education and you could have a good life too but those who don't want to focus on education you just need to get away from them just get as much distance as you can that's my recommendation and I'm also really sick of seeing video after video of black Americans beating up non-black citizens um you know I realize it's anecdotal and you know it doesn't give me a a full picture of what's happening but every damn day I look on social media and there's some black person beating the out of some white person I'm kind of over it I'm over it right so I I quit um and it feels good not to be in a racist uh hate group anymore so I'm now independent not a member of any group I do not align with any group not the white supremacists and not the black racists all right um Christopher rufo reports that Biden signed a new executive order creating a national Dei bureaucracy basically all of the government entities need to be focusing on diversity equity and I is inclusion I guess um and a special mandate for AI and the order instructs the federal government to quote protect the public from algorithmic discrimination and to deploy AI systems in America in a manner that advances equity wow I don't think I've ever heard a worse idea have you now I like equity all things being equal Equity is good wouldn't it be good if everybody you know put the same amount in and got the same amount out you know some kind of equity of that nature would be good but if any part of the government is focusing on equity over let's say effectiveness you're really screwed you're really screwed oh my God I can't I can't even imagine a worse idea now do you remember I told you that AI if it ever told you the truth you would have to make it illegal right it just happened it literally just happened that in effect Biden made it illegal for the AI to tell the truth as it sees it I'm not saying it's my truth I'm saying if the if the AI came up with its own truth sort of independently it's illegal you wouldn't be able to you wouldn't be able to buy that AI you'd have to reprogram it it's actually happening like it only took me a few days for my prediction that we would never let AI you know run the way it could run sort of independently we would have to train it to lie otherwise the system breaks down the the our entire system is based on lies if the lives fell apart it would just be chaos so AI I don't know if it will ever be unfettered because there's almost nobody who has an interest in it telling the truth like if you could control what AI did even you wouldn't let it tell the truth because it might say something you didn't like literally no human can allow AI to tell the truth so as long as humans have any control over it maybe we were worried about nothing that we'll never let it come up with its own opinions because its own opinions would be too shocking to the system I mean what would AI say about um racism in America just just pick a topic whatever is said would break break the narrative whichever narrative you know laughed right it would break all the narratives yeah I don't know what it would say but it wouldn't say what we say unless it just copied us in which case it's not really AI or not good AI all right so that might be one of the worst things
As a result of these and other related comments, Dilbert was dropped by numerous newspapers across the country, including the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, and USA Today-affiliated newspapers.[93][99][100] Andrews McMeel Syndication, the distributor of Dilbert, announced on February 27, 2023, that it was severing all ties with Adams.[101][93] Portfolio, his book publisher, announced it was dropping his non-Dilbert book that was scheduled for release in September 2023.[102][103] In response to the incident, Adams said his remarks were hyperbole and that the stories reported about them ignored the context; he conjectured that nobody would disagree with his main points and stated he disavowed racists.[91][104] Adams announced that on March 13, 2023, the strip would return as Dilbert Reborn on the subscription website Locals.[105]
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seems similar on a smaller scale to Kanye situation
Posted by Breadlum (Member # 23648) on :
Good riddance. A life spent “being helpful” to Black people only to reach the same conclusion as any cut rate white supremacist in the end. Almost feel bad for him, he could’ve made better use of his time.
…. Also did this mf just say he “identified as black” so he could help the black community? Lmaooo nah this shit is comedy Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
It's pretty tame compared to his youtube channel. On his youtube channle he makes a lot of controversial remarks, a lot of them have a satirical vibe, where you can't tell if he's serious or not. I don't like when people blur the line like s o often, mix it all up where you can't tell exactly what they really think easily. Some of what he says is thought provoking but not always coming form a good place, it also has this sarcastic quality and bad racial vibes. He said " I started identifying as black " What the hell does that mean? Is it a joke of some kind? He says "I'd like to focus a lot of my life resources in helping black Americans" I don't know what this refers to if anything
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
haven't watched any yet but noticed this
Posted by Archeopteryx (Member # 23193) on :
Hotep Jesus I have seen sometimes on Joe Rogans show
Posted by Lanoforge (Member # 23087) on :
It's violence committed at social-civilians levels that people are more concerned with, and not military campaigns. Ask yourself, even with all the history of warfare whites amassed, still why do people prefer to live alongside them as oppose to blacks?
quote:Originally posted by Breadlum:
quote:Originally posted by Tazarah: ^ Europeans have been assaulting people on every continent since around the 1400s. I'm not condoning assault, but let's not be hypocrites.
"Assaulting" may be underselling it by just a bit, but well said nonetheless
I don't see how a person could have knowledge any of the last half millennium of World History and still say with a straight face that Black and Brown folks have some unique propensity for violence. Goes to show how strong confirmation bias (among other things) is in general, and just how effective propaganda is at shaping peoples' worldview.
Next to impossible to solve problems when you misdiagnose or misattribute the causes.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lanoforge: [QB] It's violence committed at social-civilians levels that people are more concerned with, and not military campaigns. Ask yourself, even with all the history of warfare whites amassed, still why do people prefer to live alongside them as oppose to blacks?
It's because after slavery was ended a lot of the hate still remained so whites made sure blacks were segregated to the shittier run down places, furthest from the power and opportunity centers in cities. This created a cycle of poverty which lead to justified resentment for being put into this situation and with the the poverty, higher crime rates. So since most of these segregated neighborhoods remain mostly segregated (or pushed to the side by gentrification) many people both black and white are reluctant to want to live with each other.
Posted by Tazarah (Member # 23365) on :
quote:Originally posted by Breadlum:
quote:Originally posted by Tazarah: ^ Europeans have been assaulting people on every continent since around the 1400s. I'm not condoning assault, but let's not be hypocrites.
"Assaulting" may be underselling it by just a bit, but well said nonetheless
I don't see how a person could have knowledge any of the last half millennium of World History and still say with a straight face that Black and Brown folks have some unique propensity for violence. Goes to show how strong confirmation bias (among other things) is in general, and just how effective propaganda is at shaping peoples' worldview.
Next to impossible to solve problems when you misdiagnose or misattribute the causes.
I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Posted by Lanoforge (Member # 23087) on :
I disagree. Nonblacks when possible avoid social proximity with blacks in public spaces. It is not just living quarters, it's overall contact with blacks. People in general stereotype blacks as emotionally untamed and prone to reacting violently when provoked. Take for instance the nword, if a nonblack uses it, they place themselves in danger of being physically assaulted by blacks; majority blacks justify retaliation when nonblacks use the nword.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Lanoforge: [QB] It's violence committed at social-civilians levels that people are more concerned with, and not military campaigns. Ask yourself, even with all the history of warfare whites amassed, still why do people prefer to live alongside them as oppose to blacks?
It's because after slavery was ended a lot of the hate still remained so whites made sure blacks were segregated to the shittier run down places, furthest from the power and opportunity centers in cities. This created a cycle of poverty which lead to justified resentment and higher crime rates. So since most of these segregated neighborhoods remain mostly segregated (or pushed to the side by gentrification) many people both black and white are reluctant to want to live with each other.
Time for a vacation. -PR
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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lanoforge: People in general stereotype blacks as emotionally untamed and prone to reacting violently when provoked. Take for instance the nword, if a nonblack uses it, they place themselves in danger of being physically assaulted by blacks; majority blacks justify retaliation when nonblacks use the nword.
definition of a stereotype:
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stereotype noun
/ˈsteriətaɪp/
a fixed idea or image that many people have of a particular type of person or thing, but which is often not true in reality and may cause hurt and offence
quote:Originally posted by Lanoforge: It's violence committed at social-civilians levels that people are more concerned with, and not military campaigns. Ask yourself, even with all the history of warfare whites amassed, still why do people prefer to live alongside them as oppose to blacks?
Looks like dude got banned but whatever, guess i shoulda came back sooner
The funny thing to me is these types of questions are always framed in a rhetorical manor, with the implication that the answer should be obvious. But this really works just as a good as literal question, because it highlights the cognitive dissonance required to hold this position. (I mean it’s not even like violence at the “social-civilian levels” is unique to any group in particular either)
We could just as easily frame it this way: “Even with all the [evidence to the contrary], still why do people [accept a premise that’s clearly contradicted by the evidence]?
Confirmation bias. Any evidence that supports the conclusion you want to reach (or have been conditioned to believe is true), holds more weight than any evidence that contradicts it. At least that’s one way to answer it.
Posted by Ibis (Member # 23674) on :
To provide some wisdom from up North. I can rationalize Scott Adam's frustration and confusion. But the problem with that, is that it would undo centuries of fighting and struggle, leaving everyone in a worst state from where they initially started. What African Americans need is a single representative, or organization that can act as a mediator between groups and ensure that their needs are met in a way where both sides are satisfied. In Canada, the indigenous populations have chiefs or elders which represent them and their interests, which makes discussions and conflicts with them much easier to handle. African Americans have nothing close to that, which is why you have fights between black Africans who are pro separation, while others are pro unity, and it just feels like a big mess for anyone trying solve the problem. The closest we had to representatives were Malcom X and MLK, while they met tragic fates, a lot of development was made between groups due to reasons stated, there was even a brief moment where the two leaders were starting to see each others perspective which possibly could've saved us from all the issues we're having right now(key word possibly, given America's governmental history).In a perfect world BLM would act as a mediator in our modern age, but due to capitalistic greed and human self interest supposed "leaders" of BLM have been caught using funds selfishly, like Patrisse Cullor was revealed to have purchased several homes using funds making them unreliable at best.
In short I believe that there is hope for both sides to live in unity, and I personally desire that, but it's going to be very tough to find the people who are willing to actually do this in our materialistic society.
Posted by Breadlum (Member # 23648) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ibis: In short I believe that there is hope for both sides to live in unity, and I personally desire that, but it's going to be very tough to find the people who are willing to actually do this in our materialistic society.
Well said.
Hard to actually fix social issues when it’s really not a goal in our society in general.
Posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lanoforge: I disagree. Nonblacks when possible avoid social proximity with blacks in public spaces. It is not just living quarters, it's overall contact with blacks. People in general stereotype blacks as emotionally untamed and prone to reacting violently when provoked. Take for instance the nword, if a nonblack uses it, they place themselves in danger of being physically assaulted by blacks; majority blacks justify retaliation when nonblacks use the nword.
This is nothing special. White people have been known to be quite touchy as regards perceived race slurs, and in various eras of US history were always attacking blacks and others. They were supposedly more "virtuous" and "restrained" Norther Europeans too, not those "emotional" southern Euros like Italians. They were until relatively recent decades notorious for violence, disorder and drunkenness. In fact the phenomenon of "white flight" is not new in form, for history records "black flight" (Sowell 1981- Ethnic America) in places like Boston and New York, when these violent white northern European "role models" moved into a hood. They are called the Irish.
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