Tukuler
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Nassbean:
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quote:Originally posted by Nassbean: so where are all these ancient black north africans ? I thought modern NAs were arabs mixed with euro slaves...lol
you are the first one to use the word "black" in this thread, are you trying to start something ?
no need to start anything 90% of topics here try to portray us as some kind of invaders lol while genetically our ancestors were like us and looked like us
It's hard to tell the ethnicity here but when you say "like us" do you mean like the people here ro is there some image in a mosaic more accurate?
Yes it shows a clear mediterranean phenotype like modern coastal berbers :
Tukuler
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You can't tell a person's ethnicity by looking at their faces/heads.
Ethnicity is culture/language/cuisine/ Ethnicity is not physical features Ethnicity is not a sly way to say race w/o actually using the word race or sub-race.
But yes the mosaic and the photos show the same Sub-Mediterranean reis.
Interesting, did my father's ancestry kit on Gedmatch years ago.. his highest match was Nigerian Fulani.. I was dubious since at the time because Sarah Tishkoff said very few Africans in the diaspora would find a fulani ancestor and Ancestry had his trace regions as southwest asia and north Africa, and at the time his highest W. African match was Benin Togo
However, with Ancestry updating with additional samples now his trace regions are matching to some typical Fulani trace regions, Middle East, Greece, Balkans, and now his highest African match is Nigeria
So Ancestry took about two years to catch up to Gedmatch.. very interesting
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Hey, wanna chnge yr tag to Doondari-Guena, eh?
Tish tish, no gris-gris protected hal Pulaaren from the Maafa. Some say Fulani introduced early cowhand culture. I believe vaccination in the USA is Fula but doubt Fulani did any bull-dogging. Some of the most famous figures from USA slavery period were Fula.
Don't think the archive's got Phyllis Wheatley but searching Job Solliman in the archive might bring up such threads. Why stop there though, search the rest the 'net too.
Be wary these geneticist, most Euros suffer from a variation of the dreaded Fulani Madness malady.
In general I'd say trust in no genomics reports' historical assessments on African people when no African person/ppl credited as a text author and even then truth don't pay no bills.
quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Hey, wanna chnge yr tag to Doondari-Guena, eh?
Tish tish, no gris-gris protected hal Pulaaren from the Maafa. Some say Fulani introduced early cowhand culture. I believe vaccination in the USA is Fula but doubt Fulani did any bull-dogging. Some of the most famous figures from USA slavery period were Fula.
Don't think the archive's got Phyllis Wheatley but searching Job Solliman in the archive might bring up such threads. Why stop there though, search the rest the 'net too.
Be wary these geneticist, most Euros suffer from a variation of the dreaded Fulani Madness malady.
In general I'd say trust in no genomics reports' historical assessments on African people when no African person/ppl credited as a text author and even then truth don't pay no bills.
Always suspicious of Euro's... Ancestry is owned by Mormons, Mormons are over represented in the CIA
That makes me believe that ADOS genetics will always be shown to skew away from Muslim groups and countries..
Lot's of North African trace regions off loaded to Italy and Iberia
Just my amateur observations..
Did not know about Phyllis...
As far as Fula cowboys.. are there DNA matches between Fula cows and the Texas Longhorn?
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Good researcg topic. Were Fulani (actual cattle) shipped across the Atlantic too?
A Bororo or cattle Fulani would never physically abuse a cow.
"Kill my brother? I may kill you as honour. Sell my cow? I will cry a river --in public"
Breeds of Livestock - Gobra
aren't they just adorable
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Photo provided by Larry W. Harms Place of Origin Senegal and South Mauritania Uses Meat and Draft Relationship to other breeds West African (lyrehorned) Zebu type Characteristics white, red pied, or yellow brown Breed Societies French Zébu peul sénégalais Synonyms Senegal Fulani, Senegal Zebu, Proscribed Names not Cobra Etymology originaaly of Djakoré
Reference: I.L.Mason. (1996). A world dictionary of livestock breeds, types and varieties. CAB INTERNATIONAL.
Are Fulani Tatoos similar to Nubian C group tatoos?
Tattoos have been found on Nubian remains from C-Group (2,500-1,500/1,100 BC) and Meroitic (300 BC-AD 350) cemeteries at sites including Hierakonpolis, Kubban, Semna South, and Aksha. The majority of these tattooed individuals are adult women, though men and adolescents were also tattooed. Their tattoos were applied anywhere from the thighs to the head and are mostly abstract geometric motifs
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Mmm Will need extensive research on my part to even offer a SWAG sophisticated wild arsed guess
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Remember the African Humid Period made the region a grassland then, as it makes more southern regions grasslands today.
That far north at that time was an abode of African blacks. Groups of just south of the Mediterranean type ppl were a small minority in North Tropical Africa then.
It was from Tropical North Africa that blacks spread to Sahrawi-land and southward; to Libya and eastward, bound for the middle Nile; to Cameroon on westward, southward and southeastward.
But before The West African Monsoon advanced northward due to Earth's 20,000 year precisional wobble to breed the African Humid Period, those blx were living their lives in the continent's southeast as far as Malawi and further north lacustrine East Africa including Uganda and Kenya not to mention South Sudan.
They oozed or were swept north along with their grassland hunting grounds following their food sources. Shucks, even the humble cichlid fish swam from Tanzania to Tunisia via the river and lake system engendered by monsoon rains.
Forgive the run on sentences. In essence, "that far north" was topographic, vegetable, wild life, and climate wise "south".
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