A drone captured these shocking photos of inequality in South Africa
Melia Robinson Sep 2, 2016, 12:24 PM ET
For nearly 50 years, systematic racial suppression and segregation gripped South Africa. While the tides turned in the early '90s and laws were overturned, apartheid had already seeped into the country architecture. Roads, rivers, and fields functioned as "buffer zones" to separate people by race.
In 2016, photographer Johnny Miller set out to capture "the architecture of apartheid" from above. Separation gave the government the ability to reduce the black community's access to education, high-quality jobs, and city resources, leading to extreme divisions of wealth. Miller's drone pictures show the contrast as never seen before.
Miller shared some of his photos with us. You can check out more on his project website, Unequal Scenes. Cape Town is a city like no other. "It's incredibly beautiful," Miller says, "and is the quintessential South African blend of first and third world."
Black people have been disenfranchised in the country for hundreds of years. Starting in 1948, apartheid protected racism under the law.
Apartheid also brought about labels to differentiate between nonwhite people from different origins. Black people came from the Eastern Cape and spoke Xhosa, while mixed-race people, called "colored," descended from slaves from Indonesia and Madagascar or were indigenous Khoisan people.
In the years following, black people were forcibly removed from their homes in rural areas and relocated into slums. The new developments were spaced apart to prevent people from unifying.
Apartheid is no longer law. But fast-forward more than 50 years from when apartheid laws were put in place, and many black residents still live in tin shacks, confined to sandy, arid areas far outside the city.
The wealthy, white people claimed leafy neighborhoods on the Atlantic seaboard and near Table Mountain, closer to the downtown area and its resources.
"Interestingly, sometimes you have very poor communities that, for one reason or another, exist right in the middle of very wealthy neighborhoods," Miller says.
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That's quite a harsh title,yes they have the numbers,I feel like why stuff isn't getting better is,in the way white like to attack with violence,the Herero and namqua genocide the Zulu war,using the asians immigrants as temporary allies,causing confusion with the mixed population and the killing of political leaders like Steve biko.
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Nigeria, which vies with South Africa for the mantle of Africa's biggest economy, is also battling an inflation rate at an 11-year high of 17.1% in July.
"A lot of Nigeria's current predicament could have been avoided," said Kevin Daly from Aberdeen Asset Management.
"The country is so reliant on oil (Crude oil sales account for 70% of government income) precisely because its leaders haven't diversified the economy.
Nigeria MAKES ALMOST NOTHING - ALMOST ALL OF IT'S NEEDS ARE IMPORTED!!!
There is now an emergency effort underway to make things like "BUS BODIES".
Wouldn't sensible people make home manufacture of domestic needs FIRST priority?
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That's what get when you have crap leadership who works for the interest if whites or foreigners instead of the group
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quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: Aren't you of African descent yourself?
ALL humans, including Albino Europeans and Asians are of African descent.
Your point?
Ok let me rephrase. Aren't you of *recent* African descent, i.e. black? You talk a lot of trash so I'm just curious
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quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: Aren't you of African descent yourself?
ALL humans, including Albino Europeans and Asians are of African descent.
Your point?
Ok let me rephrase. Aren't you of *recent* African descent, i.e. black? You talk a lot of trash so I'm just curious
. Blacks were the FIRST humans to leave Africa. They left Africa long BEFORE the Albinos. Again - your point?
Btw - my problem with Africans is that they are often unnecessarily ignorant and unthinking. Can't wait to hear your point.
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quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: Aren't you of African descent yourself?
ALL humans, including Albino Europeans and Asians are of African descent.
Your point?
Ok let me rephrase. Aren't you of *recent* African descent, i.e. black? You talk a lot of trash so I'm just curious
Quit while you're ahead, just be vigilant in your analysis of information being thrown around on this site & from whom... Chew before you swallow is all can suggest Fam.
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This chained, century-old tree in Pakistan is a perfect metaphor for colonialism.
The Washington Post
A photograph printed this week in Pakistan's Dawn newspaper offered up a reminder of an obscure episode in the history of the British Raj. It shows a banyan tree in the country's Khyber agency, a tribal area near the border with Afghanistan. The tree, which sits inside an army cantonment, is shackled with chains, extending from its myriad branches to the ground. A board still hangs from it: It reads, in part: "I am under arrest."
"According to the plaque fixed on the tree," the newspaper explains, "in 1898, an intoxicated British officer ordered the mess sergeant to arrest the tree as he thought that it was moving towards him. Since then, the tree has remained in chains."
This is apparently a true story. The offended Victorian, a British army officer named James Squid, was in a drunken stupor and believed the multi-limbed banyan tree was somehow lurching toward him. He ordered its arrest. The move was not entirely an act of farce.
"The British basically implied to the tribesmen that if they dared act against the Raj, they too would be punished in a similar fashion," one local speculated when the Daily Tribune, another Pakistani newspaper, reported on the tree in 2013.
So there it stands — rooted to its native soil, blameless yet punished, and fettered by bonds it still can't shake.
In recent years, Pakistan has waged a brutal counterinsurgency campaign in the area against elements of the Taliban and other fundamentalist outfits.
The Tribune story suggests that the tree is a parable for the Frontier Crimes Regulations, a regime of harsh, draconian colonial-era laws enforced in the tribal areas of what is now northwest Pakistan. This includes the ability to collectively punish tribes or families for the crimes of individuals within these groups.
The FCR is still largely in place, with the government in Islamabad administering the tribal areas with a different set of laws than the rest of the country. Despite more recent moves toward reform, the status quo remains largely the same as it was decades ago.
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^Note: Pakistan was a part of India proper until 1947.
I often wonder who was the most worthless, Africans or Indians. As both were colonized by people with a fraction of their populations.
Usually I vacillate, but then chose Indians as the most worthless. I go that way because Africa never developed technologically, and Africa was never anywhere close to being unified.
India had high technology, and several unified Empires that encompassed most of the subcontinent.
Yet the British was able to go in there, play the kingdoms of against each other, and rule that huge place, with it's huge population for almost two hundreds of years.
To Africans credit, except for South Africa, Europeans ruled in Africa for less than 100 years.
Mahatma Gandhi has been variously described as an anti-colonial protester, a religious thinker, a pragmatist, a radical who used non-violence effectively to fight for causes, a canny politician and a whimsical Hindu patriarch.
But was India's greatest leader also a racist?
The authors of a controversial new book on Gandhi's life and work in South Africa certainly believe so. South African academics Ashwin Desai and Goolam Vahed spent seven years exploring the complex story of a man who lived in their country for more than two decades - 1893 to 1914 - and campaigned for the rights of Indian people there.
In The South African Gandhi: Stretcher-Bearer of Empire, Desai and Vahed write that during his stay in Africa, Gandhi kept the Indian struggle "separate from that of Africans and coloureds even though the latter were also denied political rights on the basis of colour and could also lay claim to being British subjects".
They write that Gandhi's political strategies - fighting to repeal unjust laws or freedom of movement or trade - carved out an exclusivist Indian identity "that relied on him taking up 'Indian' issues in ways that cut Indians off from Africans, while his attitudes paralleled those of whites in the early years". Gandhi, the authors write, was indifferent to the plight of the indentured, and believed that state power should remain in white hands, and called black Africans Kaffirs, a derogatory term, for a larger part of his stay in the country. Racial segregation
In 1893, Gandhi wrote to the Natal parliament saying that a "general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are a little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa".
In 1904, he wrote to a health officer in Johannesburg that the council "must withdraw Kaffirs" from an unsanitary slum called the "Coolie Location" where a large number of Africans lived alongside Indians. "About the mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly."
The same year he wrote that unlike the African, the Indian had no "war-dances, nor does he drink Kaffir beer". When Durban was hit by a plague in 1905, Gandhi wrote that the problem would persist as long as Indians and Africans were being "herded together indiscriminately at the hospital".
This, in itself, say historians, is not entirely new and revelatory. Also, some South Africans have always accused the man who led India to independence of working with the British colonial government to promote racial segregation. In April, a man was arrested in connection with vandalising a statue of Gandhi. A hashtag #Ghandimustfall (sic) has gained circulation on social media.
Gandhi's biographer and grandson, Rajmohan Gandhi, says the younger Gandhi - he arrived in South Africa as a 24-year-old briefless lawyer - was undoubtedly "at times ignorant and prejudiced about South Africa's blacks". He believes Gandhi's "struggle for Indian rights in South Africa paved the way for the struggle of black rights". He argues that "Gandhi too was an imperfect human being", but the "imperfect Gandhi was more radical and progressive than most contemporary compatriots".
Ramachandra Guha, writer of the magisterial Gandhi Before India, writes that "to speak of comprehensive equality for coloured people was premature in early 20th Century South Africa". Attacking Gandhi for racism, wrote another commentator, "takes a simplistic view of a complex life".
The authors of the new book disagree.
"Gandhi believed in the Aryan brotherhood. This involved whites and Indians higher up than Africans on the civilised scale. To that extent he was a racist. To the extent that he wrote Africans out of history or was keen to join with whites in their subjugation he was a racist," Ashwin Desai told me.
"To the extent that he accepted white minority power but was keen to be a junior partner, he was a racist. Thank God he did not succeed in this as we would have been culpable in the horrors of apartheid.
"But if Gandhi was part of the racist common sense of the time then how does this qualify him to be a person that is seen as part of the pantheon of South African liberation heroes? You cannot have Gandhi as an accomplice of colonial subjugation in South Africa and then also defend his liberation credentials in South Africa." 'Blind eye'
Desai also rejects the assertion that Gandhi paved the way for the local struggle for black rights - "in one sentence," he says, "you are writing out the history of African resistance to colonialism that unfolded much before Gandhi even arrived".
In his book, Guha writes what a friend in Cape Town once told him about Gandhi. "You gave us a lawyer, we gave you back a Mahatma [Great Soul]". Ashwin Desai thinks this is a "ridiculous assertion" about a man who "supported more taxes on impoverished African people and turned a blind eye to the brutality of the Empire on Africans".
The authors of the new book are not the first to challenge the conventional Indian historiography on Gandhi. Historian Patrick French wrote tellingly in 2013 that "Gandhi's blanking of Africans is the black hole at the heart of his saintly mythology".
More than a century after he left Africa, there has been a resurrection of Gandhi in South Africa. Despite their reservations about the 'man of Empire', Desai and Vahed acknowledge that Gandhi "did raise universal demands for equality and dignity".
But even the greatest men are flawed. And Gandhi was possibly no exception.
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I remember John Henrik Clark speaking about in one of his lectures on YouTube,gandhi was a nigga mesmerized by white folks,i all so heard he had a problem with darker south asians.
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Why u have no respect 4 Africans is that u r biased prejudiced and hateful of the source that's stopped u from being accepted as white. The 1/16 African in you must've reaked just enough havoc that yr face shows the strain barring you white acceptance. Naturally u vent at the source of yr angst both the Africans (repping 4 yr great granpappy) and Europeans (yr remaining lineage) inventing a world where half octroons would be grand and glorious nobility commanding and ruling and even instituting triangular trade.
In a nutshell, y u have no respect for Africans (nor Europeans) is u have no respect for self.
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quote:Originally posted by Thereal: I remember John Henrik Clark speaking about in one of his lectures on YouTube,gandhi was a nigga mesmerized by white folks,i all so heard he had a problem with darker south asians.
It seems to me that Indians in general are mesmerized by white folks.
As are most Mongols it appears.
The recent defeat of the Black South East Asian Empires (it's only been about 400 years, same as Europe), may have a lingering effect.
quote:Originally posted by Thereal: I remember John Henrik Clark speaking about in one of his lectures on YouTube,gandhi was a nigga mesmerized by white folks,i all so heard he had a problem with darker south asians.
It seems to me that Indians in general are mesmerized by white folks.
As are most Mongols it appears.
The recent defeat of the Black South East Asian Empires (it's only been about 400 years, same as Europe), may have a lingering effect.
White = Strong
Black = defeat
Not all, various Indians in the west, and even Pakistani's and Bangladeshi's (whom are basically Indians that are Muslims) don't like White people; see how recent Pakistani immigrants behave in countries like the UK behave against "non-muslims" and non-south asians to see evidence of that.
I remember when Heidi Klum tried to paint herself as the god shiva, and Indians got all uptight and uppity about it, and started being hostile. There was also the recent case where Chris martin & Beyonce, tried to make a music video based off Indian costumes and traditions; and there was a huge uproar...
Also it's strange that there are Black women and women of other races, that are enamored with gook/chink kpop; when kpop is just a watered down version of Black hip hop and rap music in the West, which the gooks appropriated and milked off it; to try to appeal to whites while laughing and being racist to blacks...
I don't understand the cognitive dissonance behind that and women who are into that in general; mongoloids and asiatics are some of the most degenerate creatures known to man, more degenerate and vile then even the worst albinos. They all look the same, and look like they have permanent down syndrome and that someone punched their face at child birth; at yet all these asiatics think that they are white and want to kiss up to Whites all day.
Something is going on and went on in Asia; all sorts of bizarre and confusing stuff and all sorts of **** has come out of Asia that has unfortunately, been of a detriment to the rest of the planet.
We got the Eurasian albino's, the black death, the plague virus, modern racism and racist color based rigid hierarchies and societies, genocidal horse nomadic peoples, the Asian carp and insects, and all sorts of crazy bizarre ****.
Maybe the Ancient Egyptians were right, when they degraded and talked **** about Asiatics, and Asiatics being some sort of a blight and invasive force on the then civilized world....
I don't like Asiatics, Mongoloid chinks/gooks and people who are enamored with them. Call me a bigot or racist all you want, but my sentiments are based on cold hard experience...
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: Maybe the Ancient Egyptians were right, when they degraded and talked **** about Asiatics, and Asiatics being some sort of a blight and invasive force on the then civilized world....
. When Egyptians mentioned "Asiatics" they meant the Hebrews and other Amorites in the Levant. The Egyptians may not have known of the kingdoms in the far east. According to Herodotus, the furthest East the Egyptians traveled was to Colchis on the eastern shore of the Black Sea.
When you analyze Indian behavior you must remember that you are dealing with three distinct communities, and a culture that invented the cruel custom of "Untouchables".
The White ones are descendants of the Aryans who invaded from Central Asia circa 1,500 B.C. Though they did not conquer the entire subcontinent, they did managed to hold on to the north after Blacks re-established control.
Above we see the Albino and the Dravidian.
Then there is the Hindu "Mulatto".
They are the ones you generally get the racial nonsense - like skin bleaching from.
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"Btw - my problem with Africans is that they are often unnecessarily ignorant and unthinking. Can't wait to hear your point. "
The irony here is remarkable.
And it'd also help if you actually posted actual North Indians of the kind meant when the Greeks/Romans called them "less sunburnt" than the Aethiopians
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quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: "Btw - my problem with Africans is that they are often unnecessarily ignorant and unthinking. Can't wait to hear your point. "
The irony here is remarkable.
And it'd also help if you actually posted actual North Indians of the kind meant when the Greeks/Romans called them "less sunburnt" than the Aethiopians
. Okay I get it:
You are another ignorant asshole who knows what somebody else meant thousands of years ago, but can't seem to figure out what you mean.
Go back to lurking, you have nothing to offer.
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Considering the words used I'd take a solid bet I'm more correct than you. But I guess when you got hating albinos on the brain things get foggy.
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quote:Originally posted by Punos_Rey: And it'd also help if you actually posted actual North Indians of the kind meant when the Greeks/Romans called them "less sunburnt" than the Aethiopians
. In dismissing the pedestrian nonsense of your post, I initially missed one important aspect of you post.
That is the continuing Albino falsification of (Aethiopia = Classical Greek term) = Ethiopia = "Burnt face").
Before we understood that the ancient Greeks were Black people, that lie made sense.
But now we understand it to be just more Albino Fantasy, Lie, and Falsification.
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Now that Blacks have started to take control of their own history, and are doing their own research:
Albinos are having to "Walk Back" some of their lies. .
Ethiop (n.) Look up Ethiop at Dictionary.com late 14c., from Latin Ćthiops "Ethiopian, negro," from Greek Aithiops, long supposed in popular etymology to be from aithein "to burn" + ops "face" (compare aithops "fiery-looking," later "sunburned").
Who the Homeric Ćthiopians were is a matter of doubt. The poet elsewhere speaks of two divisions of them, one dwelling near the rising, the other near the setting of the sun, both having imbrowned visages from their proximity to that luminary, and both leading a blissful existence, because living amid a flood of light; and, as a natural concomitant of a blissful existence, blameless, and pure, and free from every kind of moral defilement. [Charles Anthon, note to "The First Six Books of Homer's Iliad," 1878]
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Malaika Maoh Eyoh, a 17-year-old student at the prestigious Pretoria high school for girls, remembers the first time she was told by a teacher that her afro was “distracting others from learning”.
She said the comment was “aggressive”, and made her feel “really scared to come to school”. With her hair now braided, Eyoh was one of more than 100 young women to protest against the school for allegedly forcing black students to straighten their hair.
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Yes,those Africans behavior borders on stupid at times but you to have realize that they had many ethnic groups sense the species began and how they settle things is different from whites,i feel they lack the sense to see that whites or any foreigners are a problem or can be problematic and that they are no more violent then the needs call for.
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Mike, expand your mind and be objective and balanced in your analysis of Negroes. African Negroes are quite pathetic, but let's not get it twisted, US Negroes are just as mentally dysfunctional as the bottom tier Negroes they left behind in Africa.
Like a the NFL and NBA. This mulattoe refuses to salute the flag due to US racism and the other NFL Negroes stand up and salute the Pro-Slavery/Apartheid/Racism/Sexism/Ageism anthem of the United States.
Be honest in what psychological illness spring from 400 years of captivity/enslavement/indoctrination?
White folks researched Stockholm when one of their children was indoctrinated by the SLA. Other than Dr. DeGruy, what other Negro psychiatrist is devoted to understanding and developing cures for the misshaped, misinformed and very ignorant Negro mind? Other than the Nation Of Islam, NONE!
Plain and simple, African Negroes are in the exact same boat as US and UK Negroes. At the bottom of the barrel. The only difference is, US Negroes have no country of their own. If asked, they'll stupidly say they are America although they get out performed by 1st generation foreigners in their so-called country.
African Negroes have their own continent, but as in the past. they are too ignorant to comprehend what they need to do to keep it.
The strange thing about US Negroes is that their path to real freedom is really quite simple. All they need do is organize and not spend their money for 1 week to bring Wall street to it's knees. But US Negroes are so ignorant and clueless, you can't even get them to organize to stop buying for 1 day, not to mention 1 week.
Africans are definitely not alone in their mental entropy.
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^What you say about the condition of American Negroes is true. But be fair to me, I castigate ALL Negroes - including American - when I catch them fuching up.
Also America has thinking Black people, a lot of them. That is it's saving grace.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^What you say about the condition of American Negroes is true. But be fair to me, I castigate ALL Negroes - including American - when I catch them fuching up.
Also America has thinking Black people, a lot of them. That is it's saving grace.
Africa has thinking Negroes also. They are a large part of America's brain drain of other countries. The difference is, why Chinese come to the US for education, work, and experience, they gain it before taking it back to China to benefit their countries. Africans, and African Americans have zero loyalty to Africa and once the migrate to the US, The UK or Europe, they never use their gained education or experience for Africa's benefit. A prime example is Charles Taylor.
Even a child should comprehend how important the African Union is to Africa's future, but Africans lack a child's intelligence, so they elected a female to be in charge of what should be Africa's War Consul.
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Mike111: "That is the continuing Albino falsification of (Aethiopia = Classical Greek term) = Ethiopia = "Burnt face").
Before we understood that the ancient Greeks were Black people, that lie made sense.
But now we understand it to be just more Albino Fantasy, Lie, and Falsification. "
- - - My interpretation of Ethiopia/Aethiopia: -thiop- = high up = identical to Tian(Chinese) = celestial = Zion(Hebrew) = on high. Ethiopians are highlanders.
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quote:Originally posted by DD'eDeN: My interpretation of Ethiopia/Aethiopia: -thiop- = high up = identical to Tian(Chinese) = celestial = Zion(Hebrew) = on high. Ethiopians are highlanders.
. Odyssey 1.21-25
But now
Poseidon had gone to visit the Ethiopians worlds away,
Ethiopians off at the farthest limits of mankind,
a people split in two, one part where the Sungod sets
and part where the Sungod rises. There Poseidon went
to receive an offering, bulls and rams by the hundred—
far away at the feast the Sea-lord sat and took his pleasure.
Come-on DD'eDeN, can't you stop being a gadfly and straighten up and fly right?
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Mike111, it is obvious, seeing sun at dawn/dusk means you are arisen to mountaintop level, exposed to the sun; something that our ancestral pygmies in the tropical rainforest rarely witnessed, but open-sky people later became enthralled by.
Legesse said that in Tigrinha/Amharina languages, Ethiopia is called Tabiya. That fits Nubia and Libya in rhythm, and parallels the Sioux Indian tribe:
Nubia/Tabia/Libia = 3 bands of NE Africa 'tribe' NTL(uai)bia = Ndula(Bambuti pygmy:interior/under) + bia (??)[Note: Ota Benga, the Pygmy displayed at zoo, his actual name was Bye Otai Mbenga].
Nakota/Dakota/Lakota = 3 bands of Sioux tribe = NDL(a)kota = Ndula(Mbuti pygmy: interior/under) + cote/goati/Coat(skin of bison). These bands lived in open-sky plains (steppe/savanna/prairie) inside buffalo hide tipis.
Tipi/Top links to Bantu Topan(Canopy/Sky god) and to both Tabiya/Ethiopia and to (English) taupe (gray with brown) & tawny/fauna/aura as related to the dawn, likely linked to (Z)oroaster =(Z)AurAvestan (related to but distinct from Vedas).
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@Narmerthoth, Mike, on the issue of who is more progressive ? Africans of the continent or of the Americas? I sometimes wonder was it the strongest and mentally fittest made it across the Atlantic. Thus we are the best and brightest? When we consider Malcolm, Garvey, H Madubuti, Fannon, CLR, Rodney, Toure, Rogers, H Clarke, Rogers etc compared to Diop, I wonder why not more came from the continent? Sage?
I look at the fanatical following in these churches by Africans . I wonder , what is wrong with these people? Amerikans are religious but not fanatical.
Were the dumbest left behind or were the dumbest dupe into slavery and transported to the Americas. Why can't these people get their act together . Amerikans depending on them. Only time "blacks" will get respect is when Africa gets respect .
Do Diosporans understand the devious whiteman more than Africans?
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Mike is entirely right... we Africans can't be accorded respect when we can't even feed ourselves, despite the fact that we live in a continent with more arable land than Asia -- a continent millions of kilometer square larger than Africa.
We butcher ourselves in the millions and allow millions of our people (particularly women and children) to needlessly die from hunger, dirty water, malaria, infant mortality, HIV-AIDS and innumerable other blights that other regions of the world manage so much better than us.
Our response to Ebola was pitiful. Indigenous South Africans murdered other Africans for apparently stealing their jobs while Whites live on the best (stolen) land in South Africa and still lord over them in business and industry.
We are an embarrassment and a source of shame to the diaspora in North America, Latin America the Caribbean and the world over. If we were deserving of respect we would be united, wealth and strong and could provide for the diaspora. Imagine if Africa was wealth enough to not only provide for its people, but could provide universal healthcare and education to the whole diaspora.
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I agreed with everything you said, until the statement below: That's when I realized that you were being "Sarcastic".
But I wasn't!
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: Imagine if Africa was wealth enough to not only provide for its people, but could provide universal healthcare and education to the whole diaspora.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: @Narmerthoth, Mike, on the issue of who is more progressive ? Africans of the continent or of the Americas? I sometimes wonder was it the strongest and mentally fittest made it across the Atlantic. Thus we are the best and brightest? When we consider Malcolm, Garvey, H Madubuti, Fannon, CLR, Rodney, Toure, Rogers, H Clarke, Rogers etc compared to Diop, I wonder why not more came from the continent? Sage?
I look at the fanatical following in these churches by Africans . I wonder , what is wrong with these people? Amerikans are religious but not fanatical.
Were the dumbest left behind or were the dumbest dupe into slavery and transported to the Americas. Why can't these people get their act together . Amerikans depending on them. Only time "blacks" will get respect is when Africa gets respect .
Do Diosporans understand the devious whiteman more than Africans?
xyyman - Do you realize that you are implying that All Blacks came to the Americas as Slaves 500 years ago?
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Yes,we know that's not true but we need a common ground to develop before we expose more white lies.
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Let me retreat…. for now. I haven’t seriously looked into the percentage or quantity of Afrikans in America that came as “non-slaves”. Ashamedly I am going by what I was taught in school. Yes, there is a possibility that some blacks in the Americas are NOT chattel slavery descended but I am unsure of the percentages. I agree some blacks in post-Moor Europe may be “indigenous” being that Africa is ONLY 7-8 miles from Europe!!!! If some North Africans are indigenous blacks then another 7-8 miles away blacks WILL be found.
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The other question to ask. Were black nobility? Definitely they were not scorned upon in Europe looking at the European artwork and this goes back to ancient Greece. Was Sage correct? Why isn’t this “documented” post-Moor, the visuals(artwork) tell a story that blacks were part of nobility.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I agreed with everything you said, until the statement below: That's when I realized that you were being "Sarcastic".
But I wasn't!
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: Imagine if Africa was wealth enough to not only provide for its people, but could provide universal healthcare and education to the whole diaspora.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I agreed with everything you said, until the statement below: That's when I realized that you were being "Sarcastic".
But I wasn't!
quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: Imagine if Africa was wealth enough to not only provide for its people, but could provide universal healthcare and education to the whole diaspora.
I was not being remotely "sarcastic". What kind of creature would joke about this? I swear that I am not. I truly feel that Africans (the diaspora included) should care for each other.
Once Sudan gets its act together, I would love to repatriate the "Akhdam" from Yemen into Sudan so that their humiliation ends.
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quote:Originally posted by sudaniya: Once Sudan gets its act together, I would love to repatriate the "Akhdam" from Yemen into Sudan so that their humiliation ends.
Never heard of them, so I wikied.
Al-Akhdam, Akhdam or Achdam, meaning "servant" in Arabic; also called Al-Muhamasheen, "the marginalized ones") is a minority social group in Yemen. Although the Akhdams are Arabic-speaking Muslims just like any other Yemeni, they are considered to be at the very bottom of the supposedly abolished caste ladder, are socially segregated, and are mostly confined to menial jobs in the country's major cities. According to official estimates, the Akhdam numbered between 500,000 and 3,500,000 individuals.
The exact origins of Al-Akhdam are uncertain. One popular belief holds that they are descendants of Nilotic Sudanese people who accompanied the Abyssinian army during the latter's occupation of Yemen in the pre-Islamic period. Once the Abyssinian troops were finally expelled at the start of the Muslim era, some of the Sudanese migrants are said to have remained behind, giving birth to the Akhdam people. This belief, however, was denied and described as a myth by Hamud al-Awdi, a professor of sociology at Sana University.
Anthropology
Another theory maintains that they are of Veddoid origin. The Akhdam are generally shorter and darker than typical Yemenis, and can also be distinguished from the majority by its members' Veddoid-like physical features and stature. Genetic studies by Lehmann (1954) and Tobias (1974) further noted the sickle cell trait at high frequencies amongst the Akhdam. According to Lehmann, this suggests a biological link with the Veddoids of South Asia, who also have a high incidence of the trait.
Societal Discrimination in Yemen
Anthropologists such as Vombruck postulate that Yemen's history and social hierarchy that developed under various regimes, including the Zaydi Imamate, had created a hereditary caste-like society. Till today, the Al-Akhdam people exists at the very bottom of Yemeni social strata.
Social Conditions
The Al-Akhdam community suffers from extreme discrimination, persecution, and social exclusion from the mainstream Yemeni society. The contempt for the Akhdam people is expressed by a traditional Yemeni proverb:
"Clean your plate if it is touched by a dog, but break it if it's touched by a Khadem.″
Though their social conditions have improved somewhat in modern times, Al-Akhdam are still stereotyped by mainstream Yemeni society; they have been called lowly, dirty and immoral. Intermarriages between the conventional Yemeni society with the Akhdam community are taboo and virtually prohibited, as the Al-Akhdam are deemed as untouchables. Men who do marry into the community risk banishment by their families.
Economic Status
In the face of extreme societal discrimination, the Al-Akhdam people are forced to work menial and dirty jobs such as sweeping, shoe-making and the cleaning of latrines, vocations for which they are still known to this day. Those who are unemployed, most of whom are women, usually resort to begging.
Even the Akhdam people who are employed are not spared from discrimination. Akhdam street sweepers are rarely granted contracts even after decades of work, despite the fact that all Yemeni civil servants are supposed to be granted contracts after six months. They receive no benefits, and almost no time off.
The Akhdam reside in slum districts that are generally isolated from the rest of Yemeni society. It is next to impossible for the Akhdam people to afford shelter with even the most basic amenities such as electricity, running water and sewage system. Accordingly, Akhdam generally live in small huts haphazardly built of wood and cloth.
Distribution
Most Al-Akhdam live in segregated slums on the outskirts of Yemen's main urban centers. Many of them reside in the capital Sana'a. Others can also be found in Aden, Ta'izz, Lahij, Abyan, Al Hudaydah and Al Mukalla.
Demographics According to official estimates, the Akhdam numbered around 500,000 individuals in 2004. Other estimates put their number at over 3.5 million residents in 2013, out of a total Yemeni population of around 22 million.
The Australoid race is a broad racial classification. The concept originated with a typological method of racial classification. They were described as having dark skin with wavy hair, in the case of the Veddoid race of South Asia (including the eponymous Vedda people indigenous to Sri Lanka) and Aboriginal Australians, or hair ranging from straight to kinky in the case of the Melanesian group.
According to this typology, Australoid peoples often mixed with other races (mostly Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid) range throughout Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, East Timor, West Timor, Australia, Papua-New Guinea, Melanesia, the Andaman Islands, Afghanistan, the Indian peninsula, as well as parts of the Middle East, and historically in Japan.
In the Out of Africa theory, the ancestors of the Australoids, the Proto-Australoids, are thought to have been the first branch off from the Proto-Capoids to migrate from Africa about 60,000 BCE. This migration is hypothesized to have taken place along the now submerged continental shelf of the northern shore of the Indian Ocean, reaching Australia about 50,000 BCE. However, the suggested Proto-Australoid–Proto-Capoid link has been contested.
History
Australoid distribution according to the Meyers Konversations-Lexikon (1885-90).
In the late nineteenth century, anthropometric studies led to a proposition of racial groups, one of which was termed "Australioid" by Thomas Huxley in an essay 'On the Geographical Distribution of the Chief Modifications of Mankind' (1870), in which he divided humanity into four principal groups (Xanthochroic, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australioid).
Huxley also concluded that the Melanochroi (Peoples of the Mediterranean race) are of a mixture of the Xanthochroi (northern Europeans) and Australioids. Later writers dropped the first "i" in Australioid, establishing Australoid as the standard spelling.
According to the Archaeologist Peter Bellwood, "many of the present Southern Mongoloid populations of Indonesia and Malaysia also have a high degree of Australo-Melanesian genetic heritage."
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