In the past, when Blacks were assaulted by racist revisionist history in media, they had no choice but to take it.
In this case however, a Black female colleague was asked her opinion, and miracle of miracles, she actually knew that Hebrews were Black people, as were Anatolian's.
Next spoke the Armenian Jew who said that Jesus probably looked like some modern Israelite's that he mentioned, and took insult that the hated Turks could have anything to do with it. As if modern people like him, have anything to do with the past peoples of that area.
In any event, it may serve as impetus for the ignorant to learn something.
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^I forgot to mention that when Megyn Kelly was corrected, she attributed their positions to "Political correctness". i.e. everyone was just trying to be nice to the coloreds. When told that it was in fact historically correct that people from those areas were dark skinned, she replied that Jesus and Santa were White, they just were. He,he,he,he: Can't wait for them to learn the REAL truth.
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The Black, White, and Mulatto people of the Persian Empire
Persepolis - Apadana
In 1931 Ernst Herzfeld, at that time Professor of Oriental Archaeology in Berlin, was commissioned by James H. Breasted, Director of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, to undertake a thorough exploration, excavation and, if possible, restoration of the remains of Persepolis. Thus, Herzfeld, in 1931 became the first field director of the Oriental Institute’s Persepolis Expeditions. In 1931–34, assisted by his architect, Fritz Krefter, he uncovered on the Persepolis Terrace the beautiful Eastern Stairway of the Apadana and the small stairs of the Council Hall. He also excavated the Harem of Xerxes. When Herzfeld left in 1934, Erich F. Schmidt took charge. He continued the large-scale excavations of the Persepolis complex and its environs until the end of 1939, when the onset of the war in Europe put an end to his archaeological work in Iran. During the last years of excavating, the University Museum in Philadelphia and the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston had joined the Oriental Institute in order to cope with the tremendous work at hand. The digging crew, recruited from villagers, fluctuated from 200 to 500 men. Elaborating on this, Schmidt wrote that at the beginning of each season about 20 to 30 laborers arrived from Damghan.
As with many places and people, the ancient capital of the Achaemenian kings of Persia is known to us by it's Greek name "Persepolis" meaning Persian City. The Persians themselves called it "Parsa" meaning the city of Persians. The remains of Persepolis are located in the Fars region of what is now southwestern Iran.
Construction of the city was begun under Darius I (Darius the Great - reigned 522–486 B.C.). Persepolis was built in a remote and mountainous region which was quite inconvenient, making it's function as the royal residence and seat of power, somewhat strange. Administration of the Achaemenian Empire was likely still carried on from the traditional power centers of Susa, Babylon, and Ecbatana.
Upon the defeat of the Persian Empire by the Macedonian King Alexander the Great in 330 B.C. Persepolis was plundered, and the palace of the then Persian King Xerxes, was burned. According to one legend, it was Thais, a Athenian courtesan who traveled with the army of Alexander, that supposedly persuaded Alexander to set fire to the Achaemenian Palace. In another version, the fire was started when a drunken Thais led a revel that got out of hand. In any event, years later Persepolis was still the capital of Persia, but now as a province of the Macedonian empire. The city gradually declined, and then fell to ruin after the Seleucid period.
What's left of the palace is marked by a large terrace with its east side leaning on a hill called the Mount of Mercy. The other three sides of the terrace are formed by walls varying in height with the slope of the ground from 13 to 41 feet; on the west side of the terrace is the magnificent double stairs of Apadana. On the top of the terrace are the ruins of several colossal buildings, all constructed of an often polished, dark gray stone. These stones are of great size and were cut with such great precision that mortar was not needed, many of them are still in place today.
The centerpiece of the terrace was Apadana (the meeting place), the Great audience hall of Darius. Several of the the huge columns that supported the audience hall are still standing. In 1933 two sets of gold and silver plates were found in the foundations of Apadana, they recorded in the cuneiform writing of old Persian, Elamite, and Babylonian, the boundaries of the Persian Empire.
A number of inscriptions cut in stone, of the kings Darius I, Xerxes I, and Artaxerxes III, indicate which king built the various buildings. The oldest inscription on the south retaining wall gives us Darius' famous prayer for his people: “God protect this country from foe, famine and falsehood" - the Persians believed that the "Lie" was the greatest sin.
On the great stairways of Apadana, are relief's of Persian, Median, and Elamite officials. Additionally, there are twenty-three scenes, separated by cypress trees, depicting representatives from the twenty-three vassal kingdoms of the empire. They are being led by a Persian or Mede, as they come to made offerings to the king at the festival of the vernal equinox. The various delegates are shown in great detail, giving insight into the costume and equipment of the various peoples of the Persian Empire in the 5th century B.C. But, there is NO inscription to identify who these people are!
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At Behistun, Darius the Great names his vassal countries.
Darius the Great's, Behistun Inscription
In Antiquity, Bagastâna/Behistun, which means 'place where the gods dwell', was the name of a village and a remarkable, isolated rock outcrop along the road that connected the capitals of Babylonia and Media, and Ecbatana (modern Hamadan). Many travelers passed along this place, so it was the logical place for the Persian king Darius I (Darius the Great - 522-486) to proclaim his military victories.
The famous Behistun inscription was engraved on a cliff about 100 meters off the ground. Darius tells us how the supreme god Ahuramazda choose him to dethrone an usurper named Gaumâta, how he set out to quell several revolts, and how he defeated his foreign enemies. Trilingual inscription on the face of a gorge beneath the panel of sculptures in 5 Columns.
The following translation of the Behistun Inscription was made by L.W. King and R.C. Thompson [1] Where names are quoted in a Greekified or Biblical form, the Persian original sometimes follows in square brackets. In original Persian words and names, "x"(like cyrilic X) means the "kh" sound as German "ch" in "ach".
(6) King Darius says: These are the countries which are subject unto me, and by the grace of Ahuramazda I became king of them: Persia [Pârsa], Elam [Űvja], Babylonia [Bâbiruš], Assyria [Athurâ], Arabia [Arabâya], Egypt [Mudrâya], the countries by the Sea, Lydia [Sparda], the Greeks [Yauna], Media [Mâda], Armenia [Armina], Cappadocia [Katpatuka], Parthia [Parthava], Drangiana [Zraka], Aria [Haraiva], Chorasmia [Uvârazmîy], Bactria [Bâxtriš], Sogdia [Suguda], Gandara [Gadâra], Scythia [Saka] (Ghi-mi-ri or Cimmeria in Babylonian version), Sattagydia [Thataguš], Arachosia [Harauvatiš] and Maka [Maka]; twenty-three lands in all.
The order in which the subject countries are mentioned, is assumed to be indicative of their importance to Darius, but the position of Media (which should logically be second to the Persians), and Arabia at (5), which was of little importance, casts doubt on that logic. But certainly, who is first and last must mean something.
1)Persia, 2)Elam, 3)Babylonia, 4)Assyria, 5)Arabia, 6)Egypt - the countries by the Sea, 7)Lydia, 8)the Greeks, 9)Media, 10)Armenia, 11)Cappadocia, 12)Parthia, 13)Drangiana, 14)Aria, 15)Chorasmia, 16)Bactria, 17)Sogdia, 18)Gandara, 19)Scythia, 20)Ghi-mi-ri or Cimmeria in Babylonian version), 21)Sattagydia, 22)Arachosia, 23)and Maka; twenty-three lands in all.
Once again, in order to establish positioning, we assume that Persians would be depicted as the first to gain audience with Darius, and thus the first group at the top of the stairway - they are assigned the number one. Logically then, those at the very end, number 23, would be the least important. Once again that logic does not hold up when you note that in other sculptures, they included when others are excluded.
But it is with these Black people with short tightly curled hair (probably Maka's) that we see the Albino mans degenerate racism at work. See below:
You will note that the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago identifies those people as Ethiopians.
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There can be no doubt that the Albino people routinely translate ancient documents in ways designed to suit their racial agenda's, rather than in ways to advance truth and knowledge. Hence our use of their clinical and scientific name - Albino, rather than their preferred euphemism - White. That and other degenerate behaviors, do not merit accommodation.
The Greek Historian Herodotus is a major source of information about the first Persian Empire. But even in this trusted translation of Herodotus by George Rawlinson (1858–60), we find curious falsehoods and inconsistencies regarding Black people. We have no way of knowing if George Rawlinson is the source, or if it's modern handlers of the documents. Here, in some instances, we detail and answer the falsehoods below.
The first and most obvious, is that the voice of Herodotus is made to seem estranged from Blacks. The fact is that Herodotus was a Greek who was born in Halicarnassus, Caria, Anatolia: (modern day Bodrum, Turkey) and lived in the fifth century B.C. (c. 484–425 B.C.). As can easily be seen from these images of subject people of the Persian Empire, the great majority of the people in Anatolia were Blacks. Perpetrating falsehoods like this, is what we mean by degenerate behaviors, that do not merit accommodation.
Another instance is their insistence of including Ethiopia as a vassal state of the Persian Empire. When even here in Herodotus's accounts, the Persians fail at invading Ethiopia. Yet Albino translators steadfastly identify the sculpture with the short tightly curled hair as a Nubian/Kushite/Ethiopian, which is in keeping with the Albinos agenda of assigning all Blacks to Africa ONLY. But in fact, the paraphernalia of the scene (the Antelope and the Sword - NOT Elephant tusk) clearly identify the individual as an Asian. Also note Herodotus's description of how Ethiopians in the Persian army were dressed. Additionally, NO MAP OF THE PERSIAN EMPIRE INCLUDES ETHIOPIA!
Quotes in "The Histories of Herodotus" pertaining to Ethiopians.
Book 2 - EUTERPE
[2.22] The third explanation, which is very much more plausible than either of the others, is positively the furthest from the truth; for there is really nothing in what it says, any more than in the other theories. It is, that the inundation of the Nile is caused by the melting of snows. Now, as the Nile flows out of Libya, through Ethiopia, into Egypt, how is it possible that it can be formed of melted snow, running, as it does, from the hottest regions of the world into cooler countries?
{That is false - the temperature at the Equator is "constant" at about 81°F (27°C). Contrary to the perceptions of the Albino people: As can be seen by the table of maximum temperatures ever achieved on Earth, below: the Equator is very comfortable temperature wise, when compared to other areas}.
Maximum temperatures ever achieved on Earth
Africa
55 °C (131 °F) Kebili, Tunisia 7 July 1931C
Asia
54 °C (129 °F) Tirat Zvi, Israel (then in the British Mandate of Palestine) 21 June 1942
Europe
48.0 °C (118.4 °F) Athens, Greece (and Elefsina, Greece) 10 July 1977
North America
56.7 °C (134.1 °F) Death Valley, California, U.S.A. 10 July 1913
Oceania
53 °C (127 °F) Bourke, Australia
South America
48.9 °C (120.0 °F) Rivadavia, Salta Province, Argentina 11 December 1905
[2.104] There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. Before I heard any mention of the fact from others, I had remarked it myself. After the thought had struck me, I made inquiries on the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too; but further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times.
Book 3 - THALIA
[3.25] When the spies had now seen everything, they returned back to Egypt, and made report to Cambyses, who was stirred to anger by their words. Forthwith he set out on his march against the Ethiopians without having made any provision for the sustenance of his army, or reflected that he was about to wage war in the uttermost parts of the earth. Like a senseless madman as he was, no sooner did he receive the report of the Icthyophagi than he began his march, bidding the Greeks who were with his army remain where they were, and taking only his land force with him. At Thebes, which he passed through on his way, he detached from his main body some fifty thousand men, and sent them against the Ammonians with orders to carry the people into captivity, and burn the oracle of Jupiter. Meanwhile he himself went on with the rest of his forces against the Ethiopians. Before, however, he had accomplished one-fifth part of the distance, all that the army had in the way of provisions failed; whereupon the men began to eat the sumpter beasts, which shortly failed also.
If then, at this time, Cambyses, seeing what was happening, had confessed himself in the wrong, and led his army back, he would have done the wisest thing that he could after the mistake made at the outset; but as it was, he took no manner of heed, but continued to march forwards. So long as the earth gave them anything, the soldiers sustained life by eating the grass and herbs; but when they came to the bare sand, a portion of them were guilty of a horrid deed: by tens they cast lots for a man, who was slain to be the food of the others. When Cambyses heard of these doings, alarmed at such cannibalism, he gave up his attack on Ethiopia, and retreating by the way he had come, reached Thebes, after he had lost vast numbers of his soldiers. From Thebes he marched down to Memphis, where he dismissed the Greeks, allowing them to sail home. And so ended the expedition against Ethiopia.
[3.94] The Paricanians and Ethiopians of Asia furnished a tribute of four hundred talents. This was the seventeenth satrapy.
[3.97] Such then were the governments, and such the amounts of tribute at which they were assessed respectively. Persia alone has not been reckoned among the tributaries - and for this reason, because the country of the Persians is altogether exempt from tax. The following peoples paid no settled tribute, but brought gifts to the king: first, the Ethiopians bordering upon Egypt, who were reduced by Cambyses when he made war on the long-lived Ethiopians, and who dwell about the sacred city of Nysa, and have festivals in honour of Bacchus. The grain on which they and their next neighbours feed is the same as that used by the Calantian Indians. Their dwelling-houses are under ground. Every third year these two nations brought - and they still bring to my day - two choenices of virgin gold, two hundred logs of ebony, five Ethiopian boys, and twenty elephant tusks. The Colchians, and the neighbouring tribes who dwell between them and the Caucasus - for so far the Persian rule reaches, while north of the Caucasus no one fears them any longer - undertook to furnish a gift, which in my day was still brought every fifth year, consisting of a hundred boys, and the same number of maidens. The Arabs brought every year a thousand talents of frankincense. Such were the gifts which the king received over and above the tribute-money.
{There is no known ancient city of Nysa on the African continent. Bacchus is the "Roman" name for the Greek god Dionysus}.
[3.98] The way in which the Indians get the plentiful supply of gold which enables them to furnish year by year so vast an amount of gold-dust to the kind is the following:- eastward of India lies a tract which is entirely sand. Indeed of all the inhabitants of Asia, concerning whom anything certain is known, the Indians dwell the nearest to the east, and the rising of the sun. Beyond them the whole country is desert on account of the sand. The tribes of Indians are numerous, and do not all speak the same language - some are wandering tribes, others not. They who dwell in the marshes along the river live on raw fish, which they take in boats made of reeds, each formed out of a single joint. These Indians wear a dress of sedge, which they cut in the river and bruise; afterwards they weave it into mats, and wear it as we wear a breast-plate.
[3.99] Eastward of these Indians are another tribe, called Padaeans, who are wanderers, and live on raw flesh. This tribe is said to have the following customs:- If one of their number be ill, man or woman, they take the sick person, and if he be a man, the men of his acquaintance proceed to put him to death, because, they say, his flesh would be spoilt for them if he pined and wasted away with sickness. The man protests he is not ill in the least; but his friends will not accept his denial - in spite of all he can say, they kill him, and feast themselves on his body. So also if a woman be sick, the women, who are her friends, take her and do with her exactly the same as the men. If one of them reaches to old age, about which there is seldom any question, as commonly before that time they have had some disease or other, and so have been put to death - but if a man, notwithstanding, comes to be old, then they offer him in sacrifice to their gods, and afterwards eat his flesh.
[3.100] There is another set of Indians whose customs are very different. They refuse to put any live animal to death, they sow no corn, and have no dwelling-houses. Vegetables are their only food. There is a plant which grows wild in their country, bearing seed, about the size of millet-seed, in a calyx: their wont is to gather this seed and having boiled it, calyx and all, to use it for food. If one of them is attacked with sickness, he goes forth into the wilderness, and lies down to die; no one has the least concern either for the sick or for the dead.
[3.101] All the tribes which I have mentioned live together like the brute beasts: they have also all the same tint of skin, which approaches that of the Ethiopians. Their country is a long way from Persia towards the south: nor had king Darius ever any authority over them.
[3.114] Where the south declines towards the setting sun lies the country called Ethiopia, the last inhabited land in that direction. There gold is obtained in great plenty, huge elephants abound, with wild trees of all sorts, and ebony; and the men are taller, handsomer, and longer lived than anywhere else.
[3.115] Now these are the farthest regions of the world in Asia and Libya. Of the extreme tracts of Europe towards the west I cannot speak with any certainty; for I do not allow that there is any river, to which the barbarians give the name of Eridanus, emptying itself into the northern sea, whence (as the tale goes) amber is procured; nor do I know of any islands called the Cassiterides (Tin Islands), whence the tin comes which we use. For in the first place the name Eridanus is manifestly not a barbarian word at all, but a Greek name, invented by some poet or other; and secondly, though I have taken vast pains, I have never been able to get an assurance from an eye-witness that there is any sea on the further side of Europe. Nevertheless, tin and amber do certainly come to us from the ends of the earth.
Book 7 - POLYMNIA
[7.9] Whereupon Mardonius took the word, and said: "Of a truth, my lord, thou dost surpass, not only all living Persians, but likewise those yet unborn. Most true and right is each word that thou hast now uttered; but best of all thy resolve not to let the Ionians who live in Europe - a worthless crew - mock us any more. It were indeed a monstrous thing if, after conquering and enslaving the Sacae, the Indians, the Ethiopians, the Assyrians, and many other mighty nations, not for any wrong that they had done us, but only to increase our empire, we should then allow the Greeks, who have done us such wanton injury, to escape our vengeance. What is it that we fear in them? - not surely their numbers? - not the greatness of their wealth? We know the manner of their battle - we know how weak their power is; already have we subdued their children who dwell in our country, the Ionians, Aeolians, and Dorians.
[7.69] The Arabians wore the zeira, or long cloak, fastened about them with a girdle; and carried at their right side long bows, which when unstrung bent backwards. The Ethiopians were clothed in the skins of leopards and lions, and had long bows made of the stem of the palm-leaf, not less than four cubits in length. On these they laid short arrows made of reed, and armed at the tip, not with iron, but with a piece of stone, sharpened to a point, of the kind used in engraving seals. They carried likewise spears, the head of which was the sharpened horn of an antelope; and in addition they had knotted clubs. When they went into battle they painted their bodies, half with chalk, and half with vermilion. The Arabians, and the Ethiopians who came from the region above Egypt, were commanded by Arsames, the son of Darius and of Artystone daughter of Cyrus. This Artystone was the best-beloved of all the wives of Darius; and it was she whose statue he caused to be made of gold wrought with the hammer. Her son Arsames commanded these two nations.
[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world. Their equipment was in most points like that of the Indians; but they wore upon their heads the scalps of horses, with the ears and mane attached; the ears were made to stand upright, and the mane served as a crest. For shields this people made use of the skins of cranes.
Book 9 - CALLIOPE
[9.32] I have named here the greatest of the nations which were marshalled by Mardonius on this occasion, to wit, all those of most renown and account. Mixed with these, however, were men of divers other peoples, as Phrygians, Thracians, Mysians, Paeonians, and the like; Ethiopians again, and Egyptians, both of the Hermotybian and Calascirian races, whose weapon is the sword, and who are the only fighting men in that country. These persons had formerly served on board the fleet of Xerxes, but Mardonius disembarked them before he left Phalerum; in the land force which Xerxes brought to Athens there were no Egyptians. The number of the barbarians, as I have already mentioned, was three hundred thousand; that of the Greeks who had made alliance with Mardonius is known to none, for they were never counted: I should guess that they mustered near fifty thousand strong. The troops thus marshalled were all foot soldiers. As for the horse, it was drawn up by itself.
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As is always the case when Albinos tell Black history, all short haired Blacks are deemed Nubians, Ethiopians or some such nonsense, and facts can be changed to suit the need. Some have suggested that the figure was assumed to be a Kushite because of the animal, which was thought to be a Okapi. But it is not an Okapi, it is the Asian Nilgai. Therefore these men are obviously Asian.
Note also that the last man is NOT carrying an Elephant tusk, it has a tassel loop at the end. Elephant tusks do not have tassel loops at the end, but Shamshir swords do: the hand goes through it, so that the sword does not slip out of the hand.
Clearly, it would be difficult for a person of reasonable intelligence, and honest intent, to confuse the Asian Nilgai and the Central African Okapi. Not only don't they really look alike, but their territories are so far apart, that the Asian would not see a Okapi, and a Central African would not see a Nilgai.
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The Black, White, and Mulatto people of the Persian Empire
The Persians in their relief's made little effort to distinguish the various peoples of the empire by facial features, since they usually depicted in profile. Instead they differentiated the various peoples by their dress and the nature of their hair. Curly hair meant Blacks, Straight hair meant one of the Albino tribes, except for the Straight haired, Black skinned people - like Dravidians - whom Herodotus referred to as Eastern Ethiopians. A combination of Curly and Straight hair meant a Mulatto. Below: note how the Persians depicted themselves. The people of the Persian Empire are presented in the order they appear on the Eastern Stairway.
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The Royal Tombs at Naqsh-e Rostam
About eight miles northeast of Persepolis, on the opposite side of the Pulvar River, rises a cliff-face in a place called Naqsh-e Rostam. Four tombs are carved out of the cliff-face, the first and oldest is the tomb of Darius I, which is identified by inscriptions. The other three tombs have no inscriptions to identify them, but are believed to be the tombs of Achaemenian kings Xerxes I, Artaxerxes I, and Darius II.
The facade of Darius' tomb is divided into three registers: the bottom register is blank, the middle is sculptured to imitate the front of a palace, and the top shows the monarch at worship on the top of a piece of furniture that is supported by representatives of the nations in his realm.
This top register is adorned with a framed relief panel showing a dais supported by thirty representatives of the nations of the empire. These representatives are identified by cuneiform captions. They are arranged in two tiers of fourteen people with raised arms between the legs, and two people on the outside supporting the feet of the dais.
Darius Tomb
Click here for a blow-up image of Xerxes' tomb at Naqsh-e Rostam
The engraved panel that forms the top arm of the cross shaped facade of the tomb of Darius I, the Great, contains an image of Darius standing in prayer before a fire altar. The platform on which he is standing is supported by twenty-eight men from the different the nations in Darius' Persian empire.
The panel also contains two sets of cuneiform inscriptions in Old Persian. The inscription in the top-left corner, is known as DNa. The central part of the cross contains another inscription known as DNb.
DNa
Great God Ahuramazda who created this earth , who created that sky who created mankind who created happiness for human-beings who granted Darius be king one king of many one lords of many. I am Darius Great King King of Kings King of countries diverse King of these lands great and distant, son of Hystaspes an Achaemenian, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage. Declared Darius King: By the grace of Ahuramazda these countries that I occupied outside of Persia; I ruled over them; they bore tribute to me. What was said to them by me, that they did; my law - that held them firm; Media, Elam, Parthia, Aria, Bactria, Sogdiana, Chorasmia, Drangiana, Arachosia, Sattagydia, Gandara, Sind, Amyrgian Scythians, Scythians with pointed caps, Babylonia, Assyria, Arabia, Egypt, Armenia, Cappadocia, Sardis (Lydian), Ionia, Scythians who are across the sea, Skudra, petasos-wearing Ionians (Macedonian?), Libyans, Ethiopians, people of Maka (Mykians/Makran?), Carians.
{It was formerly claimed that there was a separate DNe inscription which enumerated the subject peoples from 1 to 28, by their positions holding up the throne - That is false. The order given in DNa is the same order given in the false DNe, except that a Persian was added as number one, so as to match the tomb relief}.
Declared Darius the King: When Ahuramazda beheld the earth in turmoil, thereupon upon me was bestowed my kingship; I became king. By the grace of Ahuramazda I restored the throne; what I decreed, that they obeyed, as my desire was. Now if you wonder this: How many are those countries which King Darius held, look at the sculptures (of those) who bear the throne, then you will know, Also, to you it will become known the spear of a Persian man has gone forth far; Further, to you it will become known a Persian man has very far from Persia has fought in war. Declared Darius King: This which has been done, all that by the will of Ahuramazda I did. Ahuramazda bore me aid, until I accomplished the work. May Ahuramazda protect me from harm, and my royal house, and this land and I pray of Ahuramazda, this may Ahuramazda give O man, that which Ahuramazda commands, let this not seem repugnant to you; do not leave the right path; do not rise in rebellion!
DNb
Great God Ahuramazda , who created this excellence which is seen, who created happiness for human beings, who wisdom and activity upon Darius (the) King bestowed . Declares Darius the King: By the grace of Ahuramazda, of such am I, that to right a friend I am, to wrong a friend I am not. Nor is it my desire that the weak be wronged by the powerful, nor is it my desire, that the powerful be wronged by the weak. What is right that is my desire. To men who follow the Lie, I am not a friend. I am not thoughtless. What things develop in my anger, I hold firm under control by my thinking power. I am firm control .
The man who cooperates, him according to his cooperative action, him thus do I reward. Who does harm, him according to the damage thus I punish. It is not my desire that a man should do harm; nor indeed is that my desire, if he should do harm, he should not be punished.
What a man says against a man, that does not convince me, until he satisfies the Ordinance of Good Regulations.
What a man does or performs (for me) according to his (natural) powers, (therewith) I am satisfied, and my pleasure is abundant, and I am well satisfied. Of such a sort is my understanding and my command: when what has been done by me you shall see or hear of, both in the palace and in the war camp, this is my activity over and above my thinking power and my understanding.
This indeed is my activity: inasmuch as my body has the strength, as battle-fighter I am a good battle fighter. Once let there be seen with understanding in the place (of battle), what I see (to be) rebellious, what I see (to be) not (rebellious); both with understanding and with command then am I first to think with action, when I see a rebel as well as when I see a not-(rebel).
Trained am I both with hands and with feet. As a horseman I am a good horseman. As a bowman I am a good bowman both afoot and on horseback. As a spearman I am a good spear-man both afoot and on horseback.
And the (physical) skills which Ahuramazda has bestowed upon me and I have had the strength to use them -- by the grace of Ahuramazda what has been done by me, I have done with these skills which Ahuramazda has bestowed upon me.
menial, vigorously make you known of what sort I am, and of what sort my skills, and of what sort my superiority. Let not that seem false to you, which has been heard by thy ears. That do you hear, which is communicated to you.
O menial, let that not be made (to seem) false to you, which has been done by me. That do you behold, which [has been inscribed]. Let not the laws [be disobeyed] by you. Let not [anyone] be untrained [in obedience]. [O menial], let not the king (feel himself obliged to) inflict punishment (?) [for wrong-doing (?) on the dwellers (in the land) (?)].
NOTE THAT THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY IN THE ORDER OF MENTION. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
It is with the name list, and examination of the relief panel, that researchers must infer the identity of the people on Apadana's stairways: by comparing hats, clothing etc. Needless to say, the damage done to this cliff-face by two thousand years of weathering, makes inferred identification a very precarious proposition. Additionally, there are thirty peoples represented on the cliff-face, but only twenty-three on the stairway. There is no way to know that the correct twenty-three were extracted. Upon quick examination, it becomes apparent that Darius' list and the identifications provided by the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, (the sites original researchers), do not exactly dovetail.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Whoever these people with the short hair were, they were long with the Persians, and important to them. As they are always depicted as supporters of the Persian throne.
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Black Revolution The Only Solution Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
you can't be serious
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
Great thread Mike. It is amazing how Europeans have made the Black people of Asia:white, by just implanting in our mind the idea that because the Blacks of Mesopotamia and elsewhere wore beards they were --not Blacks.
Moreover Europeans today refuse to accept the fact that Kushites ruled the area below Egypt and most of West Asia until the rise of the People of the Sea when the ancestors of modern Europeans and Gutians used genocide and mating to eliminate Blacks from West Asia.
Thanks Mike for exposing another WHITE LIE.
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Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
We have a very dificult fight. Europeans have been successful in brainwashing Black people into believing Blacks in Asia and Africa were two different groups.
They maintain this lie even today by changing the nomenclature of haplogroups to disguise the unity of Blacks in Africa and Eurasia.
The best example is the denial of Haplogroup M1 existing in India, and the change of R1 in Africa into V88. It will be intersting to see what happens to R1 M269, now that more and more African groups are being discovered that carry this haplogroup.
This is why I use the generic term negro for the Black race to eliminate propaganda and lies of European, Asian and Mongoloid (both Asian and Native American) Trickologist who continue to steal our history.
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
I hope that it is abundantly clear to all, the degenerate lying racism displayed by the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, and all other sources which knowingly perpetuate this falsehood.
Let me repeat - THERE IS NO PERSIAN INSCRIPTION REGARDING THE PEOPLE OF THE EMPIRE WHICH MENTIONS NUBIANS/KUSHITES/ETHIOPIANS AS PART OF THE EMPIRE.
It was totally made up!
A total LIE!
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I hope that it is abundantly clear to all, the degenerate lying racism displayed by the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, and all other sources which knowingly perpetuate this falsehood.
Let me repeat - THERE IS NO PERSIAN INSCRIPTION REGARDING THE PEOPLE OF THE EMPIRE WHICH MENTIONS NUBIANS/KUSHITES/ETHIOPIANS AS PART OF THE EMPIRE.
It was totally made up!
A total LIE!
True. They know that the region was called Kush and the people Kushites.
To maintain the Big Lie the Oriental institute has successfully made the world believe that Kush only existed in Africa, when they know Homer made it clear Kushites existed in both areas: Africa and Asia.
Ignorant Black people maintain this lie believing that if they parrot what ever Masta teaches them they appear "intelligent" when in reality they are buying into the Big Lie.
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Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Clyde you & your Whitey hating Black racist ilk are the ones who are lying & are trying to steal other people's history. You are ones who are trying to deny White people & every other people of their history, their heritage, their identities, their homelands, their pride. Heck you yourself even claim that Whites aren't even human. You & Mike claim Whites have no history, heritage, identity, homeland, no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of then you lie & say you never said such a thing. You sit there & claim that Whites aren't human and then lie & say you never said such a thing. You both sit there and claim Whites are inferior.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: This is why I use the generic term negro for the Black race to eliminate propaganda and lies of European, Asian and Mongoloid (both Asian and Native American) Trickologist who continue to steal our history.
The term Negro offends me, it is a euphemism for Black, and I need no euphemism. When I use the term, I mean it as an insult, sometimes playfully, sometimes not.
Additionally, by conventional understanding and modern usage, Blacks with pointy noses and pencil thin lips would not be considered Negros, ditto for those with straight hair.
In my opinion, by trying to save stupid Blacks from their own stupidity, you are creating a problem.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: You & Mike claim Whites have no history, heritage, identity, homeland, no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of then you lie & say you never said such a thing. You sit there & claim that Whites aren't human and then lie & say you never said such a thing. You both sit there and claim Whites are inferior.
Well here is your chance to do it yourself Doxie. Below are the Black, White, and Mulatto people of the Persian empire. Please show the White ones with fine clothing and goods.
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AS AN EXAMPLE HERE ARE SOME BLACKS WITH FINE CLOTHING, AND BRINGING FINE GIFTS FOR THE KING.
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Here is a link to the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago site, in case you want larger pictures.
^It looks like they are delegation # 14.
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: This is why I use the generic term negro for the Black race to eliminate propaganda and lies of European, Asian and Mongoloid (both Asian and Native American) Trickologist who continue to steal our history.
The term Negro offends me, it is a euphemism for Black, and I need no euphemism. When I use the term, I mean it as an insult, sometimes playfully, sometimes not.
Additionally, by conventional understanding and modern usage, Blacks with pointy noses and pencil thin lips would not be considered Negros, ditto for those with straight hair.
In my opinion, by trying to save stupid Blacks from their own stupidity, you are creating a problem.
You are probably right. I use it as a derogatory term for "uncle toms" and "coconuts:.
At the same time, I can't find another term to replace Negro for the Black race. In the 1990's people tried to use "Nubian" as a generic term for Black people--but the Nubians allowed themselves to be used by the Romans to steal Meroitic lands so I reject the term.
Later Blacks in America tried to use the term Africans to describe all Blacks. I reject this term because it has allowed immigrants from Africa to take away scholarships from Afro-americans and many Africans (e.g., somalis) usually side with Europeans against us.
As a result, I have been forced to return to the term negro or Blacks for all black people in Africa and the rest of the world no matter their facial features, or the fact Blacks in ancient Asia preferred to wear a beard.
It is interesting to note that the Egyptians called themselves Kmt (Black) and the Mande called themselves Xi (Black). Maybe 'Black' is the best generic term for the Black (negro) race.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Doxie dear, as the saying goes, speak now or forever hold your piece.
He,he,he,he:
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Doxie dear, as the saying goes, speak now or forever hold your piece.
Oh my, Doxie is mysteriously silent, I wonder what could be the cause?
Doxie dear, I wonder if you noticed where the territories of the White people were.
HINT: It's called Central Asia.
Almost everyone agrees that the Scythians were the prototype White people.
At Apadana, these are the Scythians.
(NOW WE KNOW WHERE THE KKK GOT THE DESIGNS FOR THEIR UNIFORMS).
Art on a Scythian bowl
How different those Humble and backward "REAL" Scythians were from the nonsense way you modern Albinos portray them (ergo - yourselves) today!
TALK ABOUT REVISIONIST HISTORY! Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Mike's an idiot . He thinks anybody with curly hair is "black" fvcking dumb
relief from persepolois
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ,
Mike's an idiot . He thinks anybody with curly hair is "black" fvcking dumb
relief from persepolois
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SHOW ME THE ALBINO GUY WITH HAIR LIKE THIS!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^He,he,he,he:
I guess it was my last post to Doxie that got to you, eh lioness?
Ha,ha,ha,ha:
The truth hurts, doesn't it!
Ya, now that everyone has access to information, and can also distribute it, things are getting harder for you Albinos, isn't it.
But do you know what's really stupid?
It's some pink-ass Albino fronting as a Black woman.
BTW - have you noticed that Blacks NEVER do that sort of thing.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] I hope that it is abundantly clear to all, the degenerate lying racism displayed by the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, and all other sources which knowingly perpetuate this falsehood.
Let me repeat - THERE IS NO PERSIAN INSCRIPTION REGARDING THE PEOPLE OF THE EMPIRE WHICH MENTIONS NUBIANS/KUSHITES/ETHIOPIANS AS PART OF THE EMPIRE.
It was totally made up!
A total LIE!
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: the region was called Kush and the people Kushites.
THE INSCRIPTIONS OF NAQSH-I-RUSTAM. Inscriptions on south face of steep ridge north of Persepolis
. (15-30.) Darius the King says: By the favor of Ahuramazda these are the countries which I seized outside of Persia; I ruled over them; they bore tribute to me; what was said to them by me, that they did; my law -- that held them firm; Media, Elam, Parthia, Aria, Bactria, Sogdiana, Chorasmia, Drangiana, Arachosia, Sattagydia, Gandara, Sind, Amyrgian Scythians, Scythians with pointed caps, Babylonia, Assyria, Arabia, Egypt, Armenia, Cappadocia, Sardis, Ionia, Scythians who are across the sea, Skudra, petasos-wearing Ionians, Libyans, ETHIOPIANS,men of Maka, Carians.
DARIUS, PERSEPOLIS H. (DPh) Trilingual on gold and silver plates. 1. (1-3.) Darius the Great King, King of Kings, King of countries, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenian. 2. (3-10.) Darius the King says: This is the kingdom which I hold, from the Scythians who are beyond Sogdiana, thence to ETHIOPIA; from Sind thence to Sardis -- which Ahuramazda the greatest of the gods bestowed upon me. May Ahuramazda protect me, and my royal house.
XERXES, PERSEPOLIS H. (XPh) The Daiva Inscription: Trilingual, on stone tablets, 2 copies. 1. (1-6.) ... (= XPa 1-6). 2. (6-13.) ... (=XPa 6-11, DNa 13-5).
3. (13-28.) Xerxes the King says: By the favor of Ahuramazda these are the countries of which I was king ... (= DNa 18-22); Media, Elam, Arachosia, Armenia, Drangiana, Parthia, Aria, Bactria, Sogdiana, Chorasmia, Babylonia, Assyria, Sattagydia, Sardis, Egypt, Ionians, those who dwell by the sea and those who dwell across the sea, men of Maka, Arabia, Gandara, Sind, Cappadocia, Dahae, Amyrgian Scythians, Pointed-Cap Scythians, Skudra, men of Akaufaka, Libyans, Carians, Ethiopians.
quote:Originally posted by flim flam:
^^^^ Mike's scam, he's trying to make people believe a man carrying ivory in 5th BC over his shoulder is actually carrying a Mughal shamsir sword of the 16th c AD, pure buffoonery -and as if somebody is going to be putting the outer curved edge, the cutting edge of the blade standing up on their shoulder.
Originally Persian swords were straight and double edged, just as the Indian khanda. The curved scimitar blades were Central Asian in origin. The earliest evidence of curved swords, or scimitars, is from the 9th century AD, when it was used among soldiers in the Khurasan region of Central Asia. The sword now called "shamshir" was introduced to Iran by Turkic Seljuk Khanate in 12th century and was later popularized in Persia by the early 16th century, and had "relatives" in Turkey (the kilij), the Mughal Empire (the talwar), and the adjoining Arabian world (the saif) and (the sam-saam).
Ethiopian bringing Ivory tribute, 5th century BC
notice the ivory doesn't have a handle, LOL
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] ,
Mike's an idiot . He thinks anybody with curly hair is "black" fvcking dumb
relief from persepolois
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SHOW ME THE ALBINO GUY WITH HAIR LIKE THIS!
why show you that the black dude's hair doesn't match the relief idiot, doesn't look similar at all and you can see through to his scalp. -and try getting the lips and nose down
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: {It was formerly claimed that there was a separate DNe inscription which enumerated the subject peoples from 1 to 28, by their positions holding up the throne - That is false. The order given in DNa is the same order given in the false DNe, except that a Persian was added as number one, so as to match the tomb relief}.
Damn you're stupid!
Try actually reading the material.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] ,
Mike's an idiot . He thinks anybody with curly hair is "black" fvcking dumb
relief from persepolois
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SHOW ME THE ALBINO GUY WITH HAIR LIKE THIS!
why show you that the black dude's hair doesn't match the relief idiot, doesn't look similar at all and you can see through to his scalp. -and try getting the lips and nose down
Okay, here, try this one for nose and lips.
Damn, you're stupid!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Quotes in "The Histories of Herodotus" pertaining to Ethiopians.
[7.69] The Ethiopians were clothed in the skins of leopards and lions, and had long bows made of the stem of the palm-leaf, not less than four cubits in length. On these they laid short arrows made of reed, and armed at the tip, not with iron, but with a piece of stone, sharpened to a point, of the kind used in engraving seals. They carried likewise spears, the head of which was the sharpened horn of an antelope; and in addition they had knotted clubs. When they went into battle they painted their bodies, half with chalk, and half with vermilion.
Nubian carrying Elephant tusk.
Is anyone noticing just how BIG Elephant tusks are? AND how they are TAPERED - much bigger at one end?
Tell me lioness, does it still look like an Elephant tusk????
Damn, you people are pathetic. Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Sorry Mike but I'm not gonna come running at your beck & call you dumb ass. I had to go to church then I laid down & took a nap. Anyhow, you are the one trying to revise history to completely write us Whites out of it therefore it is YOUR burden to supply proof NOT mine. Now yes the Scythians were White but they were NOT the only White tribe there is or was you idiot. LOL Mike what is pathetic is you trying to claim histories that don't belong to you, trying to write other races out of history while writing your own people in & then being hypocritical and bitching that it was supposedly done to you just because you are ashamed of your Sub-Saharan African ancestors & thus don't want to be associated with them or Africa LOL that's what's pathetic.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
now Mike, retreating off the sword bullshyt is trying to say elephant tusks only come in big sizes
-plus some of these persepolis artits may have had second hand information about how peoples, animals and objects looked>or didn't care about high precision or 21st century people wishing they were them
But anyway >
look at the top tusk, of similar scale to:
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^^^ there's some reason Mike doesn't want this to be an Ethiopian, something in his twisted scheme
Prince Arikankharer son of King Natekamani (53rd king and in the Third period of Meroe)
^^^ this yellow caption by Mike is a lie, when talking about only one antelope "in the entire world" with back sloping down. Why do I have to expose stuff twice ?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Sorry Mike but I'm not gonna come running at your beck & call you dumb ass. I had to go to church then I laid down & took a nap. Anyhow, you are the one trying to revise history to completely write us Whites out of it therefore it is YOUR burden to supply proof NOT mine. Now yes the Scythians were White but they were NOT the only White tribe there is or was you idiot. LOL Mike what is pathetic is you trying to claim histories that don't belong to you, trying to write other races out of history while writing your own people in & then being hypocritical and bitching that it was supposedly done to you just because you are ashamed of your Sub-Saharan African ancestors & thus don't want to be associated with them or Africa LOL that's what's pathetic.
Doxie dear, sub-Saharan Africans are the parents of ALL humans, including YOU. How do YOU feel about YOUR parents, and why?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
REALLY LIONESS???
They really look alike?
Quick, go outside and get some Sun, your vitamin D must be low.
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
Source? Oops! Just checked the properties...wow! Livius...
quote:Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
This is why I use the generic term negro for the Black race to eliminate propaganda and lies of European, Asian and Mongoloid (both Asian and Native American) Trickologist who continue to steal our history.
^Actually the term "negro" paints you into a corner right away for it evokes the stereotype of the broad-nosed, thick-lipped West African. "Black" is much more generic and covers a lot more territory. "Black" people can have pale brown skin for example as part of their genetic makeup. They can appear in India, Anatolia, Australia etc. And white writers themselves can be used in debates for a lot of older writings define peoples of Asia, India etc etc as "black". Diop himself used some of these older depictions in building up his case.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: "Black" people can have pale brown skin for example as part of their genetic makeup.
so how do you tell if they're black? please describe this in words rather than pictures
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
That's why populations and lineage is technically correct. Why and how?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: "Black" people can have pale brown skin for example as part of their genetic makeup.
so how do you tell if they're black? please describe this in words rather than pictures
The quick answer is if they don't look like you - Paleface.
But on the serious side, the politically incorrect terms of Mulatto, Quadroon, Octaroon, etc. were put in place just to address this situation. In modern situations I personally allow those at the periphery to self-identify. I personally consider it very rude to declare that another person is Black or not. Many mixed people do not want to be considered Black, and I don't need the company.
In the case of the mixed-race people of North Africa, the middle east, Arabia, etc. these people are actively anti-Black, and I feel that they should be dealt with in kind.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: "Black" people can have pale brown skin for example as part of their genetic makeup.
so how do you tell if they're black? please describe this in words rather than pictures
note: question addressed to zarahan
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
Well Mike gave one definition- which is a non-white European. This is the standard "one-drop" rule of American society. Everyone not a white European is "colored" or "black." There are other definitions based on area, era, etc.
How would you yourself define black?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Well Mike gave one definition- which is a non-white European. This is the standard "one-drop" rule of American society. Everyone not a white European is "colored" or "black." There are other definitions based on area, era, etc.
How would you yourself define black?
I'm asking you what black is, not Mike, not what the racist origin Jim Crow American "One Drop" rule says
And the Jim Crow American one drop rule does not define "black" to be anybody who is not "white European" Example, a non-European below. In America he is not decribed as a black person even though he's not white European
My definition of "black" is someone of African descent only.
Not a Papuan, not an Austrailian, not an Andaman Islander despite the fact that some of them might be indistinguishable in appearance from someone of African descent. And if a Papua New Guinean came to American and hypothetically got called the "N" word it makes no difference. Again that is accepting the categorization of an oppressor
Posted by typeZeiss (Member # 18859) on :
Herodotus was a eyewitness to the ancient persian empire and he said a LARGE portion of the population was ethiopian. So what is the debate? Who would know better what the population looked like 1500 years ago? Someone sitting behind a computer screen looking up google images, or the person who was there?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by typeZeiss: Herodotus was a eyewitness to the ancient persian empire and he said a LARGE portion of the population was ethiopian. So what is the debate? Who would know better what the population looked like 1500 years ago? Someone sitting behind a computer screen looking up google images, or the person who was there?
The Persian Wars by Herodotus
Book 3 - THALIA
(excerpts on Ethiopians)
[3.17] After this Cambyses took counsel with himself, and planned three expeditions. One was against the Carthaginians, another against the Ammonians, and a third against the long-lived Ethiopians, who dwelt in that part of Libya which borders upon the southern sea. He judged it best to despatch his fleet against Carthage and to send some portion of his land army to act against the Ammonians, while his spies went into Ethiopia, under the pretence of carrying presents to the king, but in reality to take note of all they saw, and especially to observe whether there was really what is called "the table of the Sun" in Ethiopia.
[3.18] Now the table of the Sun according to the accounts given of it may be thus described:- It is a meadow in the skirts of their city full of the boiled flesh of all manner of beasts, which the magistrates are careful to store with meat every night, and where whoever likes may come and eat during the day. The people of the land say that the earth itself brings forth the food. Such is the description which is given of this table.
[3.19] When Cambyses had made up his mind that the spies should go, he forthwith sent to Elephantine for certain of the Icthyophagi who were acquainted with the Ethiopian tongue;
[3.20] As soon as the Icthyophagi arrived from Elephantine, Cambyses, having told them what they were to say, forthwith despatched them into Ethiopia with these following gifts: to wit, a purple robe, a gold chain for the neck, armlets, an alabaster box of myrrh, and a cask of palm wine. The Ethiopians to whom this embassy was sent are said to be the tallest and handsomest men in the whole world. In their customs they differ greatly from the rest of mankind, and particularly in the way they choose their kings; for they find out the man who is the tallest of all the citizens, and of strength equal to his height, and appoint him to rule over them.
[3.21].... Bear him this bow, and say - 'The king of the Ethiops thus advises the king of the Persians when the Persians can pull a bow of this strength thus easily, then let him come with an army of superior strength against the long-lived Ethiopians - till then, let him thank the gods that they have not put it into the heart of the sons of the Ethiops to covet countries which do not belong to them.'
[3.25] When the spies had now seen everything, they returned back to Egypt, and made report to Cambyses, who was stirred to anger by their words. Forthwith he set out on his march against the Ethiopians without having made any provision for the sustenance of his army, or reflected that he was about to wage war in the uttermost parts of the earth. Like a senseless madman as he was, no sooner did he receive the report of the Icthyophagi than he began his march, bidding the Greeks who were with his army remain where they were, and taking only his land force with him. At Thebes, which he passed through on his way, he detached from his main body some fifty thousand men, and sent them against the Ammonians with orders to carry the people into captivity, and burn the oracle of Jupiter. Meanwhile he himself went on with the rest of his forces against the Ethiopians. Before, however, he had accomplished one-fifth part of the distance, all that the army had in the way of provisions failed; whereupon the men began to eat the sumpter beasts, which shortly failed also. If then, at this time, Cambyses, seeing what was happening, had confessed himself in the wrong, and led his army back, he would have done the wisest thing that he could after the mistake made at the outset; but as it was, he took no manner of heed, but continued to march forwards. So long as the earth gave them anything, the soldiers sustained life by eating the grass and herbs; but when they came to the bare sand, a portion of them were guilty of a horrid deed: by tens they cast lots for a man, who was slain to be the food of the others. When Cambyses heard of these doings, alarmed at such cannibalism, he gave up his attack on Ethiopia, and retreating by the way he had come, reached Thebes, after he had lost vast numbers of his soldiers. From Thebes he marched down to Memphis, where he dismissed the Greeks, allowing them to sail home. And so ended the expedition against Ethiopia.
[3.94] The Paricanians and Ethiopians of Asia furnished a tribute of four hundred talents. This was the seventeenth satrapy.
The Matienians, Saspeires, and Alarodians were rated to pay two hundred talents. This was the eighteenth satrapy.
The Moschi, Tibareni, Macrones, Mosynoeci, and Mares had to pay three hundred talents. This was the nineteenth satrapy.
The Indians, who are more numerous than any other nation with which we are acquainted, paid a tribute exceeding that of every other people, to wit, three hundred and sixty talents of gold-dust. This was the twentieth satrapy.
[3.97] Such then were the governments, and such the amounts of tribute at which they were assessed respectively. Persia alone has not been reckoned among the tributaries - and for this reason, because the country of the Persians is altogether exempt from tax. The following peoples paid no settled tribute, but brought gifts to the king: first, the Ethiopians bordering upon Egypt, who were reduced by Cambyses when he made war on the long-lived Ethiopians, and who dwell about the sacred city of Nysa, and have festivals in honour of Bacchus. The grain on which they and their next neighbours feed is the same as that used by the Calantian Indians. Their dwelling-houses are under ground. Every third year these two nations brought - and they still bring to my day - two choenices of virgin gold, two hundred logs of ebony, five Ethiopian boys, and twenty elephant tusks. The Colchians, and the neighbouring tribes who dwell between them and the Caucasus - for so far the Persian rule reaches, while north of the Caucasus no one fears them any longer - undertook to furnish a gift, which in my day was still brought every fifth year, consisting of a hundred boys, and the same number of maidens. The Arabs brought every year a thousand talents of frankincense. Such were the gifts which the king received over and above the tribute-money.
[3.100] There is another set of Indians whose customs are very different. They refuse to put any live animal to death, they sow no corn, and have no dwelling-houses. Vegetables are their only food. There is a plant which grows wild in their country, bearing seed, about the size of millet-seed, in a calyx: their wont is to gather this seed and having boiled it, calyx and all, to use it for food. If one of them is attacked with sickness, he goes forth into the wilderness, and lies down to die; no one has the least concern either for the sick or for the dead.
[3.101] All the tribes which I have mentioned live together like the brute beasts: they have also all the same tint of skin, which approaches that of the Ethiopians. Their country is a long way from Persia towards the south: nor had king Darius ever any authority over them.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
[3.97] The following peoples paid no settled tribute, but brought gifts to the king: first, the Ethiopians bordering upon Egypt, who were reduced by Cambyses when he made war on the long-lived Ethiopians, and who dwell about the sacred city of Nysa, and have festivals in honour of Bacchus. The grain on which they and their next neighbours feed is the same as that used by the Calantian Indians. Their dwelling-houses are under ground. Every third year these two nations brought - and they still bring to my day - two choenices of virgin gold, two hundred logs of ebony, five Ethiopian boys, and twenty elephant tusks.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [7.69] The Ethiopians were clothed in the skins of leopards and lions, and had long bows made of the stem of the palm-leaf, not less than four cubits in length. On these they laid short arrows made of reed, and armed at the tip, not with iron, but with a piece of stone, sharpened to a point, of the kind used in engraving seals. They carried likewise spears, the head of which was the sharpened horn of an antelope; and in addition they had knotted clubs. When they went into battle they painted their bodies, half with chalk, and half with vermilion.
Do these people look like they're clothed in the skins of leopards and lions, and had long bows made of the stem of the palm-leaf?
Damn you're stupid - disgustingly stupid.
You get a shoe planted up your ass, then the next day you say the same stupid sh1t, and get the shoe planted up your ass again. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
many books say these three figures are Ethiopian,
preceeding them as expected another people of Africa, Libyans (not shown)
Let's suppose for the sake of argument this is not an Ethiopian. Therefore it's a person with curly hair of unidentified nationality
so fvcking what
to that effect his curls are at a larger scale than the typical tightly coled small curl of most kinky haired Africans and African Americans.
On the other hand
Herodotus:
The Persian Wars by Herodotus
Book 3 - THALIA
[3.97]..... Their dwelling-houses are under ground. Every third year these two nations brought - and they still bring to my day - two choenices of virgin gold, two hundred logs of ebony, five Ethiopian boys, and twenty elephant tusks.
Although there are not 5 of them, they appear to be boys by height compared to the man in front of them, that corresponds to Herodotus
Either they are Ethiopian or of unknown nationality
so fvcking what
Posted by Clyde Winters (Member # 10129) on :
A negro is a person with:
1) Direct African ancestry
2) Brown to yellow complexion.
3) Long limbs
4) shape of the head and face varies
5) flat to semi pointed nose ( traditionally some Negro/Black people like to pinch the noses of their children )with dark skin
Here is a picture of several Wolof engaged in a conversation. Note the individuals in the picture the person in the center facing you appears to have a flat nose; whereas the person facing the center person has a nose which appears to be semi-pointed.This highlights the various nose types found among negroes.
6) curly to straight hair
7) round to slanted eyes depending on the Negro group
Note the varying shape of the eyes evident in these negroes.
8) thick of thin lips
Some people believe that Filipino and other Asian people can be classified as Negroes because of their dark color. But a careful examination of the two clearly demonstrates differences between both group in facial features eventhough the shape of the eye may be the same. Tanzanian
Filipino
Look at differences in the form of the head, forehead and mouth. Note both have flat noses but they are clearly different in how they are established.
Both children are hansome and well proportioned . Note also the color both are brown but the African has a more richer brown complexion.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: many books say these three figures are Ethiopian.
Let's suppose for the sake of argument this is not an Ethiopian. Therefore it's a person with curly hair of unidentified nationality
so fvcking what
I'll tell you fvcking what!
It is part and parcel of the European Albinos attempts to revise history.
You are right that many (White) sources call this group Ethiopians, but why?
Simply because when a supposedly August institution like the Oriental Institute of the University says it's so, most everyone the world over, have a tendency to believe them.
As I stated in the original post, neither the Behistun Inscription, nor the Naqsh-e Rostam Inscriptions mention Ethiopians/Nubians/Kushites. And these are the Inscriptions which have to do with the pictures of subjects of the empire.
I REPEAT - IT WAS COMPLETELY MADE-UP BY THOSE LYING RACISTS AT THE ORIENTAL INSTITUTE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO!
By position of mention, in both inscriptions those people would be the Maka, whose satrap would be just south of the Persian homeland of Pars.
What the Oriental Institute of the University is trying to do, and what you are trying to do, and what Doxie is trying to do: is limit Blacks, (especially short curly haired Blacks) to Africa ONLY.
That is why all of those paintings of Black Knights in Europe are ALL called Saint Maurice. That is why EVERY European Black who had a painting made is declared to be a servant or former Slave, or kidnapped from Africa. Because as your lying racist degenerate Albino institutions teach us, that is the only place Blacks are to be found.
In that way, you hope to protect your false history, and hide your atrocities in removing Blacks from Europe. Sooner or later, there will be a reckoning. Enjoy the fruits of your lies, and the Negroes you have fooled, while you can.
Because when the worlds Blacks realize the great frauds and other atrocities that have been perpetrated against them, just saying you're sorry, like you did in S.A, may not be enough.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
your case is not helped by saying figures are of unknown nationality instead of being African. Therefore a relief of a person with curly hair who could be any nationality or "race" It has no effect on who the other figures are.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^BTW - The above speaks to my disgust with the African. Had they advanced to the point where they had a world knowledge, and the ability to keep their own history: Europe's Albinos would never have been able to pull it off.
And what makes the African particularly pathetic, is that THEY are the ones MOST fooled by the European Albinos false history!
Edit:
Note lioness post above;
Note how truth and facts made blathering idiots of those lying Albinos. The poor fool has been made so discombobulated by the truth, that she doesn't even know what she's trying to talk about.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Scholars say this short statured person is Ethiopian. ^^^^ Clyde says he's Kushite.
Below Mike argues he's a curly haired Indian (Dravidian ???) :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
As I stated in the original post, neither the Behistun Inscription, nor the Naqsh-e Rostam Inscriptions mention Ethiopians/Nubians/Kushites. And these are the Inscriptions which have to do with the pictures of subjects of the empire.
I would say the theory is not impossible
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Here is another intersting Herodotus quote
[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world. Their equipment was in most points like that of the Indians; but they wore upon their heads the scalps of horses, with the ears and mane attached; the ears were made to stand upright, and the mane served as a crest. For shields this people made use of the skins of cranes.
not exactly matiching up
On the other hand:
quote:Originally posted by Swenet:
Sources:
The Archological Survey of Nubia: Report For 1907-1908 -G. Elliot Smith,F. Wood Jones
Crania Ćgyptiaca, or, Observations on Egyptian ethnography -Samuel George Morton
The specific pages from the book will have to wait. Imageshack is acting up. will be back tonight.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Though I doubt it, I have to ask, if for no other reason than to plant a thought.
Has anyone noticed a similarity between what happened in Europe and what happened in the Americas?
In the Americas it's well documented that one of the first things the Albinos did, was to destroy all of the native peoples documents that they could find:
THEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND CREATED THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS TO REPLACE THE DESTROYED NATIVE DOCUMENTS!
In Europe, isn't it the same thing?
Every Black who ever had a painting made, is declared to be a servant, a former Slave, or kidnapped from Africa. In this way, they hope to protect their false history, counting themselves as native Europeans, and also to hide their atrocities when eradicating Europe's native Blacks from their homeland.
What they did in Europe, is the same as what they did in the Americas. Destroying the native peoples historical documents and art, and replacing it with their own creations instead, is how they control the knowledge and thinking of conquered peoples.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
If you conquer a place and there are pictures and sculptures of the conquered people the first thing you do is destroy them all. It's fun to burn them all in a big heap and smash the sculptures with a sledge hammer.
Then if you're a European aristocrat you buy some servants from Africa and occasionally have new paintings made which include them to show off you are wealthy.
Slave traders in Gorés (Goree, Senegal) by Jacques Grasset de Saint-Sauveur
. "Capităo-do-mato" (slave hunter (in Brazil). Watercolor by Johann Moritz Rugendas, 1823.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike as I said before you stupid White people hating, kill Whitey, wanna harm White children, Black racist Black supremacist, we Whites ARE the native people of Europe & you wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit you on the a$$. You are trying to do exactly what you claim we Whites did or are trying to do. You are trying to completely write us out of history while writing your own in. You hate Whites so much that you wish to harm them in that you want them to walk through this earth not knowing who they are, where they come from, who their ancestors are. You'd harm them by having them think they have no history, no heritage, no identity, no homeland to call their own, no ancestors, that their ancestors accomplished nothing as a people, having them think they have no value, that they are inferior & that they have nothing to be proud of as White children & have no place on this earth.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Doxies what if Mike is just mentally ill ?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
LOL Lioness, he just might be.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Cacausoids were always in Africa. ...Europeans entered Africa relatively recently.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: If you conquer a place and there are pictures and sculptures of the conquered people the first thing you do is destroy them all. It's fun to burn them all in a big heap and smash the sculptures with a sledge hammer.
Er, lioness and Doxie, you DO understand that these posts are not really intended for you. Rather they are intended for the ignorant Negro, and in some cases, the stupid Negro.
But yes, you are correct that it is the normal prerogative of a conqueror to destroy the intellectual and cultural wealth of a people. Remove them from their history etc, so as to insure that they can never rise again.
But as I said, my message is not for you, it is for the dumb-assed Niggers who can't seem to understand that. The fact is that your programing to the effect that "Whites are the "Good" people, the Humane people: has been so successful that those asses invariably trust you more than they trust their own.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] If you conquer a place and there are pictures and sculptures of the conquered people the first thing you do is destroy them all. It's fun to burn them all in a big heap and smash the sculptures with a sledge hammer.
Er, lioness and Doxie, you DO understand that these posts are not really intended for you. Rather they are intended for the ignorant Negro, and in some cases, the stupid Negro.
But yes, you are correct that it is the normal prerogative of a conqueror to destroy the intellectual and cultural wealth of a people. Remove them from their history etc, so as to insure that they can never rise again.
But as I said, my message is not for you, it is for the dumb-assed Niggers who can't seem to understand that.
Therefore the servants in paintings are servants in European paintings.
If you imagine some older black population that got wiped out their art was wiped out, their art probably wouldn't have included oil paintings on canvas or egg tempra paintings, very particular methods. And even if they did use these methods the new population would have destroyed the older work and made new paintings to their liking which would occasionally include blacks in the new conquered role, this is logic, wake up
One cannot take a Batman approach to history in which it's expected that the criminals leave little puzzles around for the good guys to find, figure out and catch them with.
You think you're owed 30 acres in Germany? Some secret document discovered by Batman? It doesn't evne matter land rights can only be supported by armies. The indians haven't gotten their land back, and that theft is documented.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Coquerors tear down the idols of the conquered. However they don't pretend they were never there. The history of the American Indian is not a secret. It can be looked up in books and spoken about living Indians. Many of the artifacts are in museums. It was not necesarry to destroy all their artifacts. Many remain and there are some photographs and paintings of the chiefs
Some scholars think those three figures at Persepolis are Ethiopian. They may be right or wrong. It's not an attempt at deception. If they are some curly haired people of unknown origin it doesn't matter. It's of no consequence. Many of these artifacts don't have clear writing to explain them so they do their best to speculate
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Coquerors tear down the idols of the conquered. However they don't pretend they were never there. The history of the American Indian is not a secret. It can be looked up in books and spoken about living Indians. Many of the artifacts are in museums. It was not necesarry to destroy all their artifacts. Many remain and there are some photographs and paintings of the chiefs
Some scholars think those three figures at Persepolis are Ethiopian. They may be right or wrong. It's not an attempt at deception. If they are some curly haired people of unknown origin it doesn't matter. It's of no consequence. Many of these artifacts don't have clear writing to explain them so they do their best to speculate
Damn you're stupid;
Some unknown Albino asshole in cyber space, who gets off pretending to be a Black woman, all of a sudden, knows why degenerate racists did what they did, and do what they do.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
, all of a sudden, knows why degenerate racists did what they did, and do what they do.
look who's talking
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
quote:For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
Evidently Libya was the generic name for the known Africa during Herodotus's time.
"Ethiopian" in this context would just mean "non-Greek" people who were not Persian or Assyrian or Babylonian. "Aethiops" does not seem to refer to "dark/sunburnt" persons since the Greek roots for "black coloured" would be "melanchros" from which is derived the terms "melanin", "Melanesia" and "chros" gives is "cromosome" and "chromatic", etc.
But the main point still stands: "Libya", in Herodotus's time, referred to all of the then known Africa. "Eastern Ethiopians" would then seem to refer to the people external to Africa in places now known as Pakistan and India[ recall that Alexander invaded places as far East as India].
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
quote: quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Cacausoids were always in Africa. ...Europeans entered Africa relatively recently.
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So where were these "caucasoids always in Africa" located? If not, where in the Caucasus region of Russia did they originate?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin:
quote:For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
Evidently Libya was the generic name for the known Africa during Herodotus's time.
"Ethiopian" in this context would just mean "non-Greek" people who were not Persian or Assyrian or Babylonian. "Aethiops" does not seem to refer to "dark/sunburnt" persons since the Greek roots for "black coloured" would be "melanchros" from which is derived the terms "melanin", "Melanesia" and "chros" gives is "cromosome" and "chromatic", etc.
But the main point still stands: "Libya", in Herodotus's time, referred to all of the then known Africa. "Eastern Ethiopians" would then seem to refer to the people external to Africa in places now known as Pakistan and India[ recall that Alexander invaded places as far East as India].
Reconstruction of Herodotus World Map (ca. 450 B.C.)
Herodotus (c.490-c.425 BCE): On Libya, from The Histories, c. 430 BCE
^^^In the accounts here, Herodotus describes the peoples and geography of North Africa west of Egypt - much further west than the current boundaries of modern Libya. These texts aslo form part of a larger file on North Africa/Mauretania in ancient sources.
Herodotus (c.490-c.425 BCE): On Libya, from The Histories, c. 430 BCE
These be the Libyan tribes whereof I am able to give the names; and most of these cared little then, and indeed care little now, for the king of the Medes. One thing more also I can add concerning this region, namely, that, so far as our knowledge reaches, four nations, and no more, inhabit it; and two of these nations are indigenous, while two are not. The two indigenous are the Libyans and Ethiopians, who dwell respectively in the north and the south of Libya.
The Libyans dwell in the order which I will now describe. Beginning on the side of Egypt, the first Libyans are the Adyrmachidae. These people have, in most points, the same customs as the Egyptians, but use the costume of the Libyans. Their women wear on each leg a ring made of bronze; they let their hair grow long, and when they catch any vermin on their persons, bite it and throw it away. In this they differ from all the other Libyans.
Westward of the river Triton and adjoining upon the Auseans, are other Libyans who till the ground, and live in houses: these people are named the Maxyans. They let the hair grow long on the right side of their heads, and shave it close on the left; they besmear their bodies with red paint; and they say that they are descended from the men of Troy.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Westward of the river Triton and adjoining upon the Auseans, are other Libyans who till the ground, and live in houses: these people are named the Maxyans. They let the hair grow long on the right side of their heads, and shave it close on the left; they besmear their bodies with red paint; and they say that they are descended from the men of Troy.
WHAT!!!!
Do you mean that the people of Troy didn't really look like THIS???
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Please don't tell Doxie, it might kill her.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
quote:Westward of the river Triton and adjoining upon the Auseans, are other Libyans who till the ground, and live in houses: these people are named the Maxyans. They let the hair grow long on the right side of their heads, and shave it close on the left; they besmear their bodies with red paint; and they say that they are descended from the men of Troy.
But you cited Herodotus saying that Libyans are the most woolly-haired people known.
And you miss the point that many people( men and women) in Africa can grow their hair long with side-locks and the rest of the head shaved.
As the map shows the general name for Africa was Libya and the majority of Africans had "the wooliest hair known"--including Egyptians and Ethiopians. [In Aristotle's Physiognomica the point is made about the hair of Egyptians and Ethiopians. Herodotus adds to that by saying that Libyans, in general, had the wooliest hair known.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Herodotus:
[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
The eastern Ethiopians are the Indians Two nations of this name served in the army The Indian Ethiopians differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians except for their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while the Ethiopians of Africa are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Lioness nice picture of black Roman soldier with two black Anatolian prisoners.
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Herodotus:
[7.70] The eastern Ethiopians - for two nations of this name served in the army - were marshalled with the Indians. They differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians, save in their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while they of Libya are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
The eastern Ethiopians are the Indians Two nations of this name served in the army The Indian Ethiopians differed in nothing from the other Ethiopians except for their language, and the character of their hair. For the eastern Ethiopians have straight hair, while the Ethiopians of Africa are more woolly-haired than any other people in the world.
"Translation"?
Maybe it's me, but from what I see both texts are in English.
Posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Source? Oops! Just checked the properties...wow! Livius...
quote:Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
Did Herodetus see this too?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^One of the points that I thought I had made is that Albino people feel themselves free to add or subtract text in their translations of ancient texts.
As an example; In 1898 Leonard William King (on his own, without the collaboration of noted scientists) provided one of the first translations of Hammurabi's code of laws, it was edited by Paul Brian in 1915.
In the preamble of King and Brian's translation, there are three references to Hammurabi being a White man. Of course, as we know from Sumerian artifacts, that is a total and complete lie!
In 1903 Robert Francis Harper (with the collaboration of many noted scientists) provided a new translation. In Harper's translation there are no such references to Hammurabi being a White man.
I strongly suspect similar activities in the handling of Herodotus' histories.
You just can't trust those Albinos.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
shut up Mike, you're boring and old
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: shut up Mike, you're boring and old
From the thread: see this guy, he's not black
quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton: This must go down as one of the most interesting threads of 2013, We'll done lioness keep up the good work
Ya, I know what you like, but it can't always be this easy.
When you get through with them, you still have me to deal with.
And you just know that I'll be bringing FACTS with proofs, like above. He,he,he: that one really hurt, didn't it.
Oh well, such is the life of an Albino mole in Black face.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike you have no facts & have never provided the proof I have repeatedly asked for. All you think of is Get Whitey, kill whitey, harm White children, rob Whitey of what is his. Rob Whitey of his history, his heritage, his identities, his homeland, his pride. Harm White children by denying them of their history, their heritage, their identities, their homeland, their pride, teaching them they have no value, that they are inferior, teaching them that they have no ancestors, teaching them that their people have accomplished nothing & that they have no right to exist.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike you have no facts & have never provided the proof I have repeatedly asked for. All you think of is Get Whitey, kill whitey, harm White children, rob Whitey of what is his. Rob Whitey of his history, his heritage, his identities, his homeland, his pride. Harm White children by denying them of their history, their heritage, their identities, their homeland, their pride, teaching them they have no value, that they are inferior, teaching them that they have no ancestors, teaching them that their people have accomplished nothing & that they have no right to exist.
Doxie dear, I know that I have not supplied proofs that you are satisfied with. But you must understand that it is very difficult to find Albino people, who will admit that they ARE Albinos, and have committed every atrocity known to man, just out of fear of normal people and plain ole greed!
I'm still looking for the honest Albino, but it's not looking all that good.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
you are a simple bigot
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you are a simple bigot
^When one is against Albino racism, lies, and atrocities; of course Albinos will say that you are a bigot. Everyone knows that Albinos view doing those things as their natural right in defending themselves against the Blacks (those normally pigmented).
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike face it you are a bigot, a White people hating,history stealing, lying, wanna kill whitey, wanna harm White children, Black racist Black supremacist bigot.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you are a simple bigot
^When one is against Albino racism, lies, and atrocities; of course Albinos will say that you are a bigot. Everyone knows that Albinos view doing those things as their natural right in defending themselves against the Blacks (those normally pigmented).
whitey made you do it?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike face it you are a bigot, a White people hating,history stealing, lying, wanna kill whitey, wanna harm White children, Black racist Black supremacist bigot.
Doxie dear, all the fundamental religious concepts of goodness and righteousness are Black concepts. All modern religions were created by Black people, (African ex-patriots of course). Black peoples sense of spirituality has been evolving for hundreds of thousands of years.
As a Black man, I am heir to that higher evolved consciousness, and natural goodness. So of course I do not hate Albinos, I merely want them to evolve to be better people. As it stands now, they will destroy everything.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
HAHAHAHA Mike,or yeah you Blacks are sooo moral, so moral that you go around to kill White babies & White children, that you go around trying to form a plan to exterminate Whites from the planet, that you go around "playing" the "Knockout Game". Yep that's really natural goodness huh Mike. Admit it you like every other Black & non-White hate Whites with a passion & live for the day when the last White child is born & the last White person takes their last breath.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie, how can you say such mean things? Believe me, I have no more disdain for Albinos than I have for ignorant Negroes. The big difference is that Albinos are many times more dangerous, and always happy to show just how dangerous they are.
For you see, the Negro turns to violence out of frustration and lack of imagination. Whereas the Albino uses extreme violence as a standard tool. Whatever the Albino wants, his preferred means of getting it is through violence.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: And now for a different ancient civilization...
Come Back With Your Shield Queen Gorgo of Sparta bids her husband Leonidas farewell by telling him, "Come back with your shield or on it".
Of course there's no evidence that Queen Gorgo was Black African or otherwise different in appearance from the Mediterranean Greek norm, but I do believe there was a black minority in ancient Greece and wanted to portray that. Besides, it can't be any more egregious an historical error than making half the Persian characters black people in certain Hollywood films. My interpretation of Queen Gorgo of Sparta, the clever and influential wife of the famous King Leonidas who fought at Thermopylae. This is actually the second time I drew this historical queen, but I was so fond of my first design for her that I wanted to draw her again. The scene of course draws from the movie 300, but I wanted her costume and general appearance to differ a lot from the Hollywood version.
Socrates and Plato The famous Athenian philosopher Socrates has a thoughtful conversation with his student Plato. In this picture Socrates is the black dude in purple whereas Plato is the Mediterranean-looking guy in yellow. Of course their poses were drawn from Raphael's famous painting of these two characters. [/QB]
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Originally posted by Truthcentric: And now for a different ancient civilization...
Of course there's no evidence that Queen Gorgo was Black African or otherwise different in appearance from the Mediterranean Greek norm, but I do believe there was a black minority in ancient Greece and wanted to portray that.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha:
Albinos go from saying that there were "NO" Blacks in ancient Europe, to generously telling us now that there was a small minority.
Damn, you people don't seem to understand your persona:
YOU ARE PROVEN LIARS, WORST, PROVEN DEGENERATE LIARS!
Now then, back to reality, what can you offere as proof that there was ANY Albinos in Europe prior to about 1,200 B.C.
All of you Albino liars get this same question, and so-far no one has offered ANYTHING!
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Funny Mike, you have not shown any proof there weren't any White (NOT Albino)people there. You are the one who has proven to be a degenerate liar. All you can sit there and do is spout racist epithets & try to steal other people's histories.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
The original "Old man of Crô-Magnon", Les Eyzies in France. The estimated age of the site is 30,000 years. which is this skull more similar to ?
Mike of the African and European skulls you put up which do these look more similar to ?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Nice Persian mural of race.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
The original "Old man of Crô-Magnon", Les Eyzies in France. The estimated age of the site is 30,000 years. which is this skull more similar to ?
[/QB][/QUOTE]Just one MUUR complication to deal with:
Hofmeyr Skull from South Africa 35,000 yo
Same people...
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Funny Mike, you have not shown any proof there weren't any White (NOT Albino)people there. You are the one who has proven to be a degenerate liar. All you can sit there and do is spout racist epithets & try to steal other people's histories.
Hey Ralph,
You seen that new movie, 12 inches a Slave?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
The original "Old man of Crô-Magnon", Les Eyzies in France. The estimated age of the site is 30,000 years. which is this skull more similar to ?
Just one MUUR complication to deal with:
Hofmeyr Skull from South Africa 35,000 yo
Same people...
Modern Caucasians (different type skull):
Posted by matu (Member # 22002) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: If you conquer a place and there are pictures and sculptures of the conquered people the first thing you do is destroy them all. It's fun to burn them all in a big heap and smash the sculptures with a sledge hammer.
Er, lioness and Doxie, you DO understand that these posts are not really intended for you. Rather they are intended for the ignorant Negro, and in some cases, the stupid Negro.
But yes, you are correct that it is the normal prerogative of a conqueror to destroy the intellectual and cultural wealth of a people. Remove them from their history etc, so as to insure that they can never rise again.
But as I said, my message is not for you, it is for the dumb-assed Niggers who can't seem to understand that. The fact is that your programing to the effect that "Whites are the "Good" people, the Humane people: has been so successful that those asses invariably trust you more than they trust their own.
"Niggers"? Now you're gonna reduce yourself to disparaging Blacks and calling them racial epithets? You're no different than the so-called "albinos" you attempt to discredit throughout this thread. 'Higher level of consciousness' I think not....
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Matu Are you a Black Person:
A Negro:
Or a Nigger - (whichever fits your character)?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Answer my questions Mikey boy, where's that proof Mikey the Whitey killah?? Where is it???
My questions once again..
1. Why don't you want Whites to know who we are?
2. Why do you want to write us out of history like we never/don't existed/exist?
2. Why don't you want White people knowing where we come from, where our homeland is?
3. Why do you want to strip us of our history/want us to forget our history except of course the bad?
4. Why do you want to harm White children?
5. Why don't you want White people knowing who our ancestors are?
6. Why do you want Whites to think we accomplished nothing, have built nothing?
7. Why do you want Whites to think we are inferior?
8. Why do you want Whites to feel we have nothing to be proud of as a people?
9. Why do you want us to think there is nowhere on earth we belong (IE we are indigenous to no where on earth, have no homeland)?
10. Why do you want Whites to think we aren't human?
11. Why don't you want Whites to have any knowledge of self?
Matu, you've got to realize Mikey here is ashamed to be African, he thinks he's European or Native American. Sad really.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Doxies I told you the answer Mike is mad that black people were made into slaves by America. That answers all the questions That is the motive. He has his own unique way of expressing it through his theories
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Matu, you've got to realize Mikey here is ashamed to be African, he thinks he's European or Native American. Sad really.
No Black person, short of knowing their family history: can say for sure if they are African, Asian, Pacifican, Or original American, as Blacks are indigenous to the entire planet.
Aside from the past posts of Africans, which demonstrates an intellectual inability to grasp even the concept of Blacks being from anywhere but Africa.
There is the past and current performance of Africans - and their current condition: which I have lately come to wonder if it may not be a punishment for their degenerate slavery practices. (Those apologists who claim that Africans didn't know what they were selling their brethren into: please note that there was documented travel and communication between Brazil and Africa).
So though I do not know for sure if I am (recent) African, if that were to be the case, then no, it is not something that I would be proud of.
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Now you're gonna reduce yourself to disparaging Blacks and calling them racial epithets? You're no different than the so-called "albinos" you attempt to discredit throughout this thread. 'Higher level of consciousness' I think not....
