Some say Jew derives from Judea, but it seems that phonetically Jerusalem would be a better match. Since Jerusalem was a Canaanite city, this case says that the term Jew has nothing to do with Hebrews. However, if Jew derives from Judea, then the people of the sister kingdom of Israel would be excluded. Actually, no one knows where the term "Jew" comes from.
We are on firmer ground with the word Hebrew, because at least we know that is derived from the Egyptian word for one who sells his services "Habiru".
The most comprehensive name for those people is Amorite, because that one name allows us to track these people from Southern Anatolia (referred to herein as Syria) across thousands of years.
Amorite, member of an ancient Semitic-speaking people who dominated the history of Mesopotamia, Syria, and Palestine from about 2000 to about 1600 bc. In the oldest cuneiform sources (c. 2400–c. 2000 bc), the Amorites were equated with the West, though their true place of origin was most likely Arabia, not Syria. They were troublesome nomads and were believed to be one of the causes of the downfall of the 3rd dynasty of Ur (c. 2112–c. 2004 bc).
Nehemiah 9:7 Thou art the Lord the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;
Genesis 11:29 And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah.
Genesis 11:31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
Genesis 11:32 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.
Genesis 12:4 So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
Abraham, Hebrew Avraham, originally called Abram or, in Hebrew, Avram (flourished early 2nd millennium bc), first of the Hebrew patriarchs and a figure revered by the three great monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. According to the biblical book of Genesis, Abraham left Ur, in Mesopotamia, because God called him to found a new nation in an undesignated land that he later learned was Canaan. He obeyed unquestioningly the commands of God, from whom he received repeated promises and a covenant that his “seed” would inherit the land..
During the 2nd millennium bc the Akkadian term Amurru referred not only to an ethnic group but also to a language and to a geographic and political unit in Syria and Palestine. At the beginning of the millennium, a large-scale migration of great tribal federations from Arabia resulted in the occupation of Babylonia proper, the mid-Euphrates region, and Syria-Palestine. They set up a mosaic of small kingdoms and rapidly assimilated the Sumero-Akkadian culture. It is possible that this group was connected with the Amorites mentioned in earlier sources; some scholars, however, prefer to call this second group Eastern Canaanites, or Canaanites. Almost all of the local kings in Babylonia (such as Hammurabi of Babylon) belonged to this stock.
One capital was at Mari (modern Tall al-Ḥarīrī, Syria). Farther west, the political centre was Ḥalab (Aleppo); in that area, as well as in Palestine, the newcomers were thoroughly mixed with the Hurrians.
The region then called Amurru was northern Palestine, with its centre at Hazor, and the neighbouring Syrian desert.
In the dark age between about 1600 and about 1100 bc, the language of the Amorites disappeared from Babylonia and the mid-Euphrates; in Syria and Palestine, however, it became dominant. In Assyrian inscriptions from about 1100 bc, the term Amurru designated part of Syria and all of Phoenicia and Palestine but no longer referred to any specific kingdom, language, or population.
Aramaean
Aramaean, one of a confederacy of tribes that spoke a North Semitic language (Aramaic) and, between the 11th and 8th century bc, occupied Aram, a large region in northern Syria. In the same period some of these tribes seized large tracts of Mesopotamia.
In the Old Testament the Aramaeans are represented as being closely akin to the Hebrews and living in northern Syria around Harran from about the 16th century bc. The Aramaeans are also mentioned often in Assyrian records as freebooters. The first mention of the Aramaeans occurs in inscriptions of the Assyrian king Tiglath-pileser.
Aram
Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River. It was named for the Aramaeans, who emerged from the Syrian desert to invade Syria and Upper Mesopotamia (c. 11th century bc) and who built numerous city-kingdoms, including Damascus. It lends its name to the Aramaic language. (Jesus likely spoke Aramaic as his mother tongue).
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: The Europeans Jews have some minor Khazar ancestry but recent genetics show that, unlike the Ethiopians, they and the South African Lemba have significant Hebrew Isreal DNA.
Lioness - In none of the artifacts that I have seen, do I see people resembling these:
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Like a Muslim a Jew is someone who practices the religion of that name. That is what a Jew is.
Similarly a Christian is defined by belief rather than ancestry
However to discuss genetic ancestry:
Despite appearances all of the above people have in part significant common genetic ancestry,
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note art dates
Scenes from Tree of Paradise - Jewish Roman Mosaics from Tunisia 1st-2nd century AD ^^^ looks somewhat like a combination of the photos at top
Mosaic depiction of a female face in the Huqoq synagogue. In late June 2012, archaeologists discovered a rare mosaic floor in a synagogue in the ancient Jewish village of Huqoq, near the Sea of Galilee
of the region, a Palestinian man
Like a Muslim a Jew is someone who practices the religion of that name. That is what a Jew is.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Not true.
Ask yourself, according to Jewish classifiers, what determines a person as a Jew?
Granted, their lame definition is purely political and has absolutely nothing to do with religion, the definition has been intentionally tailored to define Jews as some form of fictional separate race, meaning; different than Gentile.
Therefore, their recently defined classification of "A Jew", is someone born to a Jewish mother.
From (Jew controlled) Websters dictionary: Jew: In Jewish tradition, any child born of a Jewish mother is considered a Jew; in Reform Judaism a child is considered a Jew if either parent is Jewish. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Like a Muslim, a person who is not a Jew can become a Jew by following religious proceedure. If female who already is a Jew has a child the process is automatic
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Marcus Hardie grew up in an African-American community in Los Angeles, where his nickname was "American Thug."
"I was a tough gangster," he says.
But after a religious awakening that brought him to Judaism and eventually led him to immigrate to Israel, his street name changed to "American Faith." In his recently published autobiography, Hardie recounts his journey from the streets of an inner-city ghetto in California to Israeli yeshivas, Ehud Olmert's office and the battlefields of the second intifada.
He already knows which Hollywood stars he wants to play his character if his memoirs are turned into a movie. Currently working as a lawyer in California, he is planning to return to Israel soon, with one specific goal: election to the Knesset.
"I was raised by my grandmother - she was a religious Christian and used to anoint my head with oil and give me blessings," Hardie, 39, told Anglo File recently during a phone interview. A "troubled youth in America's violent inner city," as he described himself, Hardie joined a gang his cousin had started. But after his cousin died during a burglary, Hardie quit the gang life and looked for meaning elsewhere.
"I became interested in the Jewish tradition because my grandmother had me reading the Bible. I read about the Jews coming out of Egypt and I became interested in the people of Israel," he recalled. "After I got into college I started talking to a rabbi and he questioned me about why I was interested in Jewish tradition. I told him that I was interested in being a part of the chosen people."
Hardie underwent three conversions: first with Reform, then with Conservative and finally, in 1997, with Orthodox rabbis. After graduating law school, he worked for California Governor Pete Wilson.
In 1999, Hardie immigrated to Israel, a country he had visited only once before. For about six months, he studied at a Jerusalem yeshiva and interned for Ehud Olmert, who was then the capital's mayor.
In 2000, the 26-year-old Hardie enrolled in the Israel Defense Forces' elite Golani Brigade.
"I was getting fired upon at one point in Jenin," he recalled. "It was pretty dangerous stuff."
Because he was a lawyer, Hardie was transferred to the army's legal department. "But after six months of being a jobnik," he said, using army slang for non-combat soldiers, "I decided I wanted to do more combat."
He was transferred to the army's armored division, where he drove and loaded tanks near Israel's northern borders and later manned checkpoints in the West Bank.
After the army, Hardie moved to the Ultra-Orthodox town of Bnei Brak to work as a security guard.
"I lived among the yeshivas, the Haredim and I was learning Torah too," Hardie said.
While he had adopted an Orthodox lifestyle back in 1997, he became even more religious in Bnei Brak. "One of my favorite cities in Israel to this day is still Bnei Brak. I love Orthodox Jews and the Jewish community there. I love spending time with the rabbis, I love davening and praying."
In 2004, Hardie returned to America for a woman, but the relationship didn't work out, and he is still single.
"Although I'm back in the U.S., I still consider myself Israeli and I still study Torah every day," Hardie said. "I'm both American and Israeli. But I'd say I feel more Israeli."
That feeling figures in his plans to return to Israel in the next two years and get involved in politics.
"I want to become the first African-American member of Knesset," he said. "I think I can do it because I served in the army, I did reserve duty, I speak Hebrew, I'm a member of Likud and I'm still active in politics," he said.
Hardie is currently working on a Middle East peace plan, which calls for a de-militarized Palestinian state with Ramallah as its capital.
In the meantime, Hardie is looking for Hollywood producers interested in turning his 320-page autobiography "Black and Bulletproof: An African-American Warrior in the Israeli Army," published last year by New Horizon Press, into a movie. As actors for the lead role he suggests Will Smith, Jamie Foxx or Denzel Washington. "I think it would be great if we could get Steven Spielberg to direct it," he said.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Ben Ami, Isreal
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
No Narmer they are NOT White, they are not part of my people, as you have been told lots of times before you stupid Black racist idiot, they are a mixed race people. BTW, Cease & desist with the use of racist epithets thanks.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: [QB] No Narmer they are NOT White, they are not part of my people, as you have been told lots of times before you stupid Black racist idiot, they are a mixed race people.
what are they a mixture of?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] ^ Doxie/Ralph
I'm well aware that the nation's klan HQ in your town preach that the Jews are seperate than your average red-neck klansmen. However, the simple fact remains that the southern klan organization itself was organized, funded and started by southern Jews, same as the southern Dixiecrat party.
As I said, and has been verified by various ashkenazi Jew researchers,
name one of the ashkenazi Jew researchers that verified this
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: they are a mixed race people.
Doxie dear, would you mind telling me who they are mixed with?
The Name Changers (lifted from Stormfront - it appears to be accurate).
(There are many, many, more).
The Jewish Hollywood moguls long ago decided that it would help them make more money if the general public viewed films as being "Christian." In fact, they personally wanted to blend in with the Gentile community. Thus Samuel Goldfish changed his name to Goldwyn and Cecil B. de Mille insisted that he was a Gentile until his death when a Rabbi officiated at his funeral. Every single one of the original Jewish developers of the movie industry divorced their Jewish wives and married beautiful Christian starlets. This includes Louis B. Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Jack Warner, David O. Selznick and Harry Cohen. They gave orders to the numerous Jews they made "stars" to change their Jewish names to Christian sounding ones. This has also included a lot of "nosejobs" for both Jewish male and female stars. Here are but a few who followed this road to stardom.
Adopted Christian Name ..................Real Jewish Name
Joey Adams ............................. Joseph Abramowitz Eddie Albert ............................Eddie Heimberger Woody Allen............................. Allen Konigsberg Lauren Bacall .......................... Joan Perske Jack Benny ............................. Benny Kubelsky Milton Berle ........................... Milton Berlinger Ernest Borgnine .........................Effron Borgnine George Burns ........................... Nathan Birnbaum Joan Blondell........................... Rosebud Blustein Joyce Brothers ..........................Joyce Bauer Mel Brooks ............................. Melvin Kaminsky Joey Bishop ............................ Joey Gottlieb Charles Bronson ........................ Charles Buchinsky Rona Barrett ............................Rona Burnstein Cyd Chrisse .............................Tula Finklea Tony Curtis ............................ Bernie Schwartz (daughter is Jamie Lee Curtis) Joan Crawford .......................... Lucille Le Sueur Dyan Cannon ............................ Samile Friesen Kirk Douglas ........................... Isadore Demsky (son is Michael Douglas) Bob Dylan ...............................Robert Zimmerman Rodney Dangerfield ......................Jacob Cohen Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. ................. Douglas Ullman Joel Grey .............................. Joel Katz (father of Jennifer Grey) Elliott Gould ...........................Elliott Goldstein Zsa Zsa Gabor ...........................Sara Gabor John Garfield .......................... Jules Garfinkle Judy Garland ........................... Frances Gumm Paulette Goddard ....................... Paulette Levy Eydie Gorme............................. Edith Gormezano Cary Grant ............................. Larry Leach Lorne Green .............................Chaim Leibowiz Judy Holliday .......................... Judith Tuvin Leslie Howard .......................... Leslie Stainer Buddy Hackett .......................... Leonard Hacker Jill St. John .......................... Jill Oppenheim Danny Kaye.............................. David Kominsky Alan King .............................. Irwin Kniberg Larry King...............................Larry Zeiger Tina Louise............................. Tina Blacker Ann Landers..............................Esther Friedman (Abigail Van Buren is her sister.) Dorothy Lamour ......................... Dorothy Kaumeyer Miehael Landon ......................... Mike Orowitz Steve Lawrence ......................... Sidney Leibowitz Hal Linden.............................. Harold Lipshitz Jerry Lewis ............................ Joseph Levitch Karl Maiden .............................Maiden Sekulovitch Ethel Merman ........................... Ethel Zimmerman Jan Murray ............................. Murray Janofsky Walter Matthau ......................... Walter Matasschanskayasky Lilly Palmer ........................... Maria Peiser Jan Pierce.............................. Pincus Perelmuth Roberta Peters...........................Roberta Peterman Eleanor Parker.......................... Ellen Friedlob Joan Rlvers .............................Joan Molinsky Tony Randall ........................... Sidney Rosenberg Edward G. Robinson ..................... Emanuel Goldenberg Dinah Shore ............................ Fanny Rose Shelly Winters ......................... Shirley Schrift Gene Wilder............................. Jerome Silberman
More Jewish Stars Over Hollywood
There are hundreds of other Jews in Hollywood "stardom" - far too numerous to list them all here. However the following are Jews whom many think are Gentiles: Ed Asner, Bea Arthur, Gene Barry, Richard Benjamin, Kevin Costner, Lee J. Cobb, Joan Collins, Richard Dreyfus, Ted Danson, Peter Falk (Columbo), Eddie Fisher, Harrison Ford (25%), Richard Gere, Betty Grable, Sharon Gless, Steven Segall, Dustin Hoffman, Monty Hall, Amy Irving, Jack Klugman,Leonard Nimoy, Ken Olin, Ron Perlman, George Segel, William Shatner, Peter Strauss, Rod Steiger, Jane Seymour, Barbara Walters, Debra Winger, and Bruee Willis.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: name one of the ashkenazi Jew researchers that verified this
Don't waste people's time when we all realize that you already know of at least one. Many more have since reconfirmed.
Arthur Koestler - The Thirteenth Tribe
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie dear, if White was a good thing, then I would say to you that you WISH that you were as White as these are!
Lauren Bacall .......................... Joan Perske
Joan Blondell........................... Rosebud Blustein
Charles Bronson ........................ Charles Buchinsky
Tony Curtis ............................ Bernie Schwartz
Cary Grant ............................. Larry Leach
Roberta Peters...........................Roberta Peterman
William Shatner .........................William Schattner
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Yeah, the old name change game.
Look at Doxie. Her name used to be Ralph.
I'll bet there are plenty of Jews in Doxie/Ralph's klan group and she doesn't even know it just because they changed their surname from Goldman to Smith.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] ^ Doxie/Ralph
I'm well aware that the nation's klan HQ in your town preach that the Jews are seperate than your average red-neck klansmen. However, the simple fact remains that the southern klan organization itself was organized, funded and started by southern Jews, same as the southern Dixiecrat party.
As I said, and has been verified by various ashkenazi Jew researchers,
name one of the ashkenazi Jew researchers that verified this
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Arthur Koestler - The Thirteenth Tribe
In the The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler he does not say the klan organization itself was organized, funded and started by southern Jews, Stop wasting everybody's time
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^^^ Buy a brain, fool!
I see that your silly comment is simply meant to get me to give you some attention.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
According to esoteric or astrotheologist writers the word Hebrew was the title of the ancient world Stellar priest.Hebrew was the title of Irish Druid priest and Egyptian Amenist priest.The word Hebrew in ancient time doesnt refer to a people, a nation or a country.In Ancient Egypt the word Hebrew was Ibaru, when you add a h in front of it like Hibaru it become the (H) Ibaru(Hebrew).The word Iberia for Spain and Hibernia for Ireland come from the Ibaru stellar priest.The word Ibaru for stellar priesthood should not be confuse to Apiru meaning nomad.
The Hebrew language was the sacred language of the Egyptian priesthood.The Hebrew alphabet was Egyptian it was base on the serpentine shadow of the sun ray when it past through the pyramid crystal pyramidion.MTsar.
According to Charles Finch The word Jew is Yahudi in Hebrew it come from the Egyptian God Tehuti or Yahu.
According to Prince Branchie Darkwah the Jew of Europe have West African tribal last names.The Jew of Europe in the past use to be classified as black not semite.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Narmer, I've already told you STOP FUCKING HARASSING & SLANDERING me, My name is NOT Ralph nor has it ever been Ralph, I have NEVER been a man & will NEVER be a man, I am NOT nor have I ever been in the klan nor will I ever be in the clan. You stupid low life Black racist POS. I don't come on here slandering you, making false claims about you, defaming your character, therefore I expect the same respect. You are NOT going to bully, harass & slander me into leaving, I'm not going anywhere.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^I hope he at least provides a pillow for her knees.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Again Mike, the Jews are NOT White, just idiots like you who go by skin color alone think they are because you can't tell the difference. Now that being out of the way, what are they mixed with? Depends on the host population. Ashkenazi are generally 30% White & the rest Semite. NO I don't want to look like a Jew, I like my non bulbous, non hooked nose, my having a chin, not having a scrunched up facial appearance, & I like having ruddiness in my cheeks & having color to my lips thanks.
BTW Mike why the heck does that Murdoch look so much like that Rothschild person
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Doxie dear - You WISH you looked as good as those Jewish women above.
Damn you people are delusional! No wonder Jews find it so easy to manipulate you.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Again Mike, the Jews are NOT White, Ashkenazi are generally 30% White & the rest Semite
BTW Mike why the heck does that Murdoch look so much like that Rothschild person
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
Jewish isn't a race or racial type. You can be a convert to Judaism, and any race. However, if you're talking about historical Israelites or Jews, then of course these people were Caucasoid ("white") unless you consider a few individual slaves or traders in the area. The Old Testament notes the Jews were very endogamous.
Ancient Galileans.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
The 69-year-old spent more than 25 years as a truck driver, according to the New England Journal of Medicine, and the Northwestern University doctor who studied him concluded: “The biggest take-home message from all of this is that you can get UV radiation through window glass even if you are just running an errand.”
Although exposure to ultraviolet B (UVB) rays is linked to a higher rate of photocarcinogenesis, UVA has also been shown to induce substantial DNA mutations and direct toxicity, leading to the formation of skin cancer. The use of sun protection and topical retinoids and periodic monitoring for skin cancer were recommended for the patient.
One thing is for certain– the man is a great reminder as to why investing in a bottle of sunscreen is probably a good idea, as the summer starts heating up.
Cass, this is the Procession of Dionysus, the god of the grape harvest, wine-making and wine, of ritual madness and ecstasy in Greek mythology.
What does this have to do with Jews?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The Koch Brothers (pronounced "Coke"): Who bankroll Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and the Tea Party
Ed Koch (pronounced "Kotch") former Jewish mayor of New York city.
MK - The Koch brothers gotta be Jews, you got any info?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
LOL Mike, Finally you are right about one thing, those women are better looking than me, miraculous how far a little plastic surgery can go huh LOL? BTW, Have I not repeatedly stated on here that I'm ugly as heck LOL. Hehehehe you think they are manipulating us LOL, perhaps you should take a look at your own people and how badly they are manipulating YOU LOL & you personally are falling right into their trap hehehehehe.
Narmer, if that's the case then sun here I come, I'm tired of people looking at me & assuming I'm a child & being carded all the time.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Cancer 'is purely man-made' say scientists after finding almost no trace of disease in Egyptian mummies
Scientists found no signs of cancer in their extensive study of mummies apart from one isolated case
Notice the features of the Egyptian mummy undergoing forensic evaluation. African.
Actually, cancer is not man-made so much as it is caused by the susceptibility of those possessing the OCA melanin defect. I.E., Whites/Jews
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Israelis get blasted by the hot sun: Israel has second highest global skin cancer rate
The skin cancer rate in Israel is among the highest in the world, the Israel Cancer Association reported yesterday. At the end of 2000 there were 3,631 skin cancer patients in Israel and around 200 die every year from the disease.
The Health Ministry reports the largest group of skin cancer patients among people of European and North American origin (400 new patients in 2000), then among those born in Israel (400 new patients), people of African origin (40 cases), of Asian origin (25 percent), and Arabs (15 cases).
He said genetics can explain only about 10 percent of skin cancers, and even then, mainly among Ashkenazis. The high cancer rates in the `90s are a result of careless and excessive exposure to the sun in the `70s and `80s. He said the growing awareness of the disease and of ways to avoid it – both by doctors and the public – may reduce the skin cancer rate in Israel from 2010.
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Hehehehe you think they are manipulating us LOL, perhaps you should take a look at your own people and how badly they are manipulating YOU LOL & you personally are falling right into their trap hehehehehe.
Doxie you really need to say HOW!
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Not this nonsense again. Studies done by Zyonist Jews (of all people) purporting to show European/white Jews (or even the Lemba) as being descended from some authentic "ancient Hebrews" in the ME are as bogus as the holocaust story. Which is why Lioness parrots it, he probably got it from the silly Nizkor site the same one he cut and paste a whole bunch of stuff but couldn't explain. lol
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Cass, this is the Procession of Dionysus, the god of the grape harvest, wine-making and wine, of ritual madness and ecstasy in Greek mythology.
What does this have to do with Jews?
The scenes depict everyday Galileans. Take a look at the mosaics from the synagogue at sepphoris, and the figures are no different to those depicting the dionysos cult:
This is from inside the synagogue.
The most well known Gailiean mosaic:
The point is "Blacks" don't show up in any artwork in this area at this time since they were never there, unless you count the odd slave. There has never been a notable Negroid presence in the Levant.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Cass, get some of your Albino friends, go to Israel, and walk around hat-less and shirtless like this - see how long you last.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Israel's skin cancer rate second highest in the world.
The skin cancer rate in Israel is among the highest in the world, the Israel Cancer Association reported yesterday.
After the Israeli government stopped Gazan workers from crossing the border farmers have had to look as far afield as Thailand for workers
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
The real name of the Jew are Atonist, Levite and Afrim. The Atonist and Levite were the follower of Pharaoh Akhenaton. Akhenaton and his Atonist follower were exiled from Egypt to Palestine because of their tyranical way . Akhenaton banned the 3000 years old natural, cosmic and scientific Egyptian religion and try to replace it with a fundamentalist sun worship.
The Atonism cult of Akhenaton didnt die out in exile it become what they call today Judaisme, Kabala and other.The Atonist in exile conspired to comeback to power in the world like they were in Egypt.They conspire for years to take control of the Western world banking system and use it to influence politic.Today the Atonist or Jew international banker controled the West (USA and UK) banking system and influence its political system. Mtsar stated the Atonist are the power behind the International banker, the Vatican, The British Crown, the Freemason etc.
Other people think there are different independant center of power in the world like the Vatican, The British Monarchy, The international Bankers, the black nobility, the Chinese communist party etc.
Afrim is the Egyptian/Akan name for the Atonist meaning the Egyptian who have separated from the Egyptian population and sent to exiled.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
mena7 - I'm sure you mean well, but I'm really getting tired of your nonsense "secret knowledge" type of comments. If the knowledge is secret, then how do YOU know it?
If the knowledge is not secret, then what is your source?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: The real name of the Jew are Atonist, Levite and Afrim. The Atonist and Levite were the follower of Pharaoh Akhenaton. Akhenaton and his Atonist follower were exiled from Egypt to Palestine because of their tyranical way . Akhenaton banned the 3000 years old natural, cosmic and scientific Egyptian religion and try to replace it with a fundamentalist sun worship.
The Atonism cult of Akhenaton didnt die out in exile it become what they call today Judaisme, Kabala and other.The Atonist in exile conspired to comeback to power in the world like they were in Egypt.They conspire for years to take control of the Western world banking system and use it to influence politic.Today the Atonist or Jew international banker controled the West (USA and UK) banking system and influence its political system. Mtsar stated the Atonist are the power behind the International banker, the Vatican, The British Crown, the Freemason etc.
Other people think there are different independant center of power in the world like the Vatican, The British Monarchy, The international Bankers, the black nobility, the Chinese communist party etc.
Afrim is the Egyptian/Akan name for the Atonist meaning the Egyptian who have separated from the Egyptian population and sent to exiled.
It's clear to me that the original Hebrews of Israel were discriminated by the thousands of Roman raids on Israel as detailed by Albino infiltrator and turn-coat Flavius Josephus. In Jewish Wars, Josephus detailed how 40-100 AD following each Roman raid, the streets of Israeli cities were piled high with 50-100,000 bodies of the real Hebrews.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: mena7 - I'm sure you mean well, but I'm really getting tired of your nonsense "secret knowledge" type of comments. If the knowledge is secret, then how do YOU know it?
If the knowledge is not secret, then what is your source?
Mike, in just about every major religion and even Freemasonry you have both esoteric and exoteric teachings. The average inductee receives surface level teachings while the more proven and trust worthy receive the internal (secret) teachings.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: mena7 - I'm sure you mean well, but I'm really getting tired of your nonsense "secret knowledge" type of comments. If the knowledge is secret, then how do YOU know it?
If the knowledge is not secret, then what is your source?
Mike, in just about every major religion and even Freemasonry you have both esoteric and exoteric teachings. The average inductee receives surface level teachings while the more proven and trust worthy receive the internal (secret) teachings.
Yes I know, there is no end to the secret societies.
However, they all have one thing in common, they all deal in bullsh1t.
There is nothing "Magical" about people SECRETLY acting in concert.
In legal terms it is called a "CONSPIRACY".
The world is full of them, and some of them are very successful - Jews for one.
But there is nothing Magical or Esoteric about them.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
The worldwide Jewish population is 13.3 million Jews.
Diaspora
8.35 million
63%
Jewish population growth worldwide is close to zero percent. From 2000 to 2001 it rose 0.3%, compared to worldwide population growth of 1.4%.
In 2001, 8.3 million Jews lived in the Diaspora and 4.9 million lived in Israel. Just about half of the world’s Jews reside in the Americas, with about 46 percent in North America. (top)
Approximately 37% of worldwide Jewry lives in Israel. Israel's Jewish population rose by 1.6% the past year, while the Diaspora population dropped by 0.5%.
Europe, including the Asian territories of the Russian Republic and Turkey, accounts for about 12 percent of the total. Fewer than 2 percent of the world’s Jews live in Africa and Oceania. In 2001, 8 countries had a Jewish population of 100,000 or more; another 5 countries had 50,000 or more. There is not a single Diaspora country where Jews amounted to 2.5 percent of the total population. Only 3 Diaspora countries had more than 1 percent. Gibraltar (24.0 per 1000), United States (20.1), Canada (11.9), France (8.8), Uruguay (6.7), Argentina (5.3), Hungary (5.2), and Australia (5.1)[ had the highest ratios.
The top twelve Jewish populations in the world are:
1. USA 6,500,000 2. Israel 4,950,000 3. France 600,000 (750,000) 4. Canada (5) 364,000 5. Britain (6) 275,000 6. Russia (3/4) 275,000 (650,000) 7. Argentina 197,000 (250,000) 8. Ukraine 112,000 9. Germany 98,000 (115,000) 10. Brazil (11) 97,500 11. South Africa (12) 88,000 (65,000) 12. Hungary (10) 55,000 (100,000) ___________________________________________
The central idea of Judaism involves a commitment by the Jewish people to a single, omnipotent, incorporeal God, who is the creator and ruler of the universe and the source of a moral law for humanity. The idea of God as the creator of the universe opens the Biblical narrative Bereshit (“In the Beginning”) in the Book of Genesis.
The declaration of this belief appears throughout the Jewish source texts, including in the key prayer known as the Shema. The Shema, a recitation of Deuteronomy 6: 4-9, is a central feature of every synagogue service. It is also recited daily upon waking and on significant occasions such as approaching death. The Shema (whose name means "Listen/Hear") begins:
"Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God. The Lord is One. Blessed be his name, whose glorious kingdom is for ever and ever. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might."
The concept of a moral law prescribed by God is one of the principal subjects of the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. The concept of the Creator's moral law suffuses the Tanach, which comprises the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings. (See Core Ethical Teachings of Judaism.)
Some statements of belief A statement emphasising the majesty of God and condemning idolatry occurs in the First and Second Commandments at Exodus 20:2-6:
1. I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
2. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make yourself a graven image; nor the form of anything that is in the heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them…
The attributes of God are recited in the songs of petition and praise collected in the Psalms. Psalms 19 and 24 are just two out of scores of examples:
"The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.
The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple."
(Psalm 19)
"The earth is the LORD's and the fulness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein; for he has founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the rivers.
Who shall ascend the mountain of the LORD? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully."
(Psalm 24)
Every day observant Jews pronounce numerous belssings which commence with the words “Blessed art Thou, our God and King of the Universe, who has sanctified us with his commandments …”
The idea of the Covenant
Genesis tells how God establishes a ‘covenant’ with Abraham, which is to be passed on to future generations. The first statement of this special relationship appears in Chapter 12 of Genesis:
"And the Lord said to Abram, 'Go forth from your land and from your birthplace and from your father's house, to the land that I will show you. And I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you, and I will make your name great…and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves.'"
The covenant is sealed in Chapter 17, when Abraham agrees that the sign of the covenant will appear on the bodies of all his male descendants through circumcision - "Thus my covenant will be marked in your flesh as an everlasting pact." . At the same time, God promises:
"And I will establish My covenant between Me and between you and between your seed after you throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant, to be to you for a God and to your seed after you. And I will give you and your seed after you the land of your sojournings, the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession, and I will be to them for a God."
Throughout the generations, Jews have circumcised every male child at the age of eight days (or later, if the baby is not well enough for the procedure at eight days). The Jewish ceremony of circumcision is known as a 'brit', which is the Hebrew word meaning 'covenant'. Immediately after the ceremony, all those present then say, "Just as he has entered into the covenant, so may he enter into the Torah, marriage and good deeds."
Maimonides' Thirteen Principles of Jewish Faith
Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon (1135 - 1204), commonly known by his Greek name, Moses Maimonides, was a rabbi and physician, as well as the author of a number of important works of philosophy, law and medicine. Born in Cordoba, Spain, Maimonides fled Muslim persecution of the Jews there and eventually became physician to Saladin, the Kurdish ruler of Egypt.
Maimonides promulgated "The Thirteen Principles of the Faith", which sets out his version of the fundamentals of Jewish belief. The Thirteen Principles appear in various forms in the Synagogue service, but it is important to note that they are not prescribed as dogma in Judaism, as similar pronouncements may be in the Christian tradition. For example, Articles 12 and 13 are not officially accepted by Conservative and Reform Jews.
Maimonides' Thirteen Principles are:
1. I believe with perfect faith that God is the Creator and Ruler of all things. He alone has made, does make, and will make all things.
2. I believe with perfect faith that God is One. There is no unity that is in any way like His. He alone is our God He was, He is, and He will be.
3. I believe with perfect faith that God does not have a body. Physical concepts do not apply to Him. There is nothing whatsoever that resembles Him at all.
4. I believe with perfect faith that God is first and last.
5. I believe with perfect faith that it is only proper to pray to God. One may not pray to anyone or anything else.
6. I believe with perfect faith that all the words of the prophets are true.
7. I believe with perfect faith that the prophecy of Moses is absolutely true. He was the chief of all prophets, both before and after Him.
8. I believe with perfect faith that the entire Torah that we now have is that which was given to Moses.
9. I believe with perfect faith that this Torah will not be changed, and that there will never be another given by God.
10. I believe with perfect faith that God knows all of man's deeds and thoughts. It is thus written (Psalm 33:15), "He has moulded every heart together, He understands what each one does.”
11. I believe with perfect faith that God rewards those who keep His commandments, and punishes those who transgress Him.
12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. However long it takes, I will await His coming every day.
13. I believe with perfect faith that the dead will be brought back to life when God wills it to happen.”
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Maimonides (b 1135) was born in Cordoba (present-day Spain) during what some scholars consider to be the end of the golden age of Jewish culture in the Iberian Peninsula, after the first centuries of the Moorish rule. At an early age, he developed an interest in the exact sciences and philosophy. He read those Greek philosophers accessible in Arabic translations, and was deeply immersed in the sciences and learning of Islamic culture.He was a rabbi, physician, and philosopher in Morocco and Egypt.Though the Gaonic tradition, especially in its North African version, formed the basis of his legal thought, some scholars have argued recently that Muslim law, including Almohad legal thought, also had a substantial impact. During the reign of Almoravids, the position of the Jews was apparently free of significant abuses,
but after another Berber dynasty, Almohads, conquered Córdoba in 1148 they have abolished the dhimma status (i.e. state protection of life and wealth) in some of their territories which threatened the Jewish and Christian communities with the choice of conversion to Islam, death, or exile.[9] However, the historical records of abuses against Jews in the immediate post-1148 period are subject to different interpretations.[ Many Jews were forced to convert, and due to suspicion by the authorities of fake conversions, the new converts were also forced to wear identifying clothing. Maimonides's family, along with most other Jews, chose exile. Some say, though, that it is probable Maimonides feigned a conversion to Islam before escaping,[his forced conversion was ruled legally invalid per Islamic law when brought up by a rival in Egypt.[For the next ten years Maimonides moved about in southern Spain, eventually settled in Fes in Morocco, the capital of the Almohads, where he studied at the University of Al-Karaouine. During this time, he composed his acclaimed commentary on the Mishnah in the years 1166–1168.Following this sojourn in Morocco, together with two sons, he sojourned in the Holy Land, before settling in Fostat, Egypt around 1168. While in Cairo he studied in Yeshiva attached to a small synagogue that bears his name. The principle which inspired his philosophical activity was identical with the fundamental tenet of Scholasticism: there can be no contradiction between the truths which God has revealed and the findings of the human mind in science and philosophy. Maimonides primarily relied upon the science of Aristotle and the teachings of the Talmud, commonly finding basis in the former for the latter. In some important points, however, he departed from the teaching of Aristotle; for instance, he rejected the Aristotelian doctrine that God's provident care extends only to humanity, and not to the individual.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Conversion:
Conservative and Orthodox Jews require that the potential convert be instructed about how to live as a Jew, and undergo kabbalat ol mitzvot (agreement to do the commandments), mila (circumcision for men),* and tevilah (immersion in a mikvah [ritual bath]), and that the procedure be supervised by a Beit Din [court] of three people. Note that the members of the Bet Din must be acceptable witnesses. According to Orthodox Jewish law, a witness must scrupulously observe all the laws, particularly Shabbat. From an Orthodox standpoint, therefore, any Jew who does not follow Orthodox standards of practice — rabbi or not — would not be qualified to sit on a Beit Din. The Reform movement requires that the potential convert agree to observe the commandments (according to Reform standards) and participate publicly in the community, but they do not require mikvah or mila. The Reform movement recommends that the potential convert be made aware of mikvah and mila, and that their conversion would be unacceptable to Orthodox Jews, but such notification is not required.
Potential converts should be aware that, depending on the movement that performs the conversion, other movements may or may not recognize their conversion. For example, Orthodox movements do not recognize all Reform conversions, most Conservative conversions and even some Orthodox conversions. Conservative rabbis will accept Reform conversions with mila and tevilah, regardless of the observance level of the Beit Din, for the sake of intergroup harmony. In general, the more liberal the movement, the more accepting it is of other movement's conversions; the more orthopractic the conversion, the more acceptable it is to more movements.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
New Research Returns to Koestler
But in 2012, a major genetic study of Ashkenazim was led by Johns Hopkins geneticist Eran Israeli-Elhaik. It concentrates on the compelling genetic evidence that eastern European Jewry’s roots are not just in the Mid-East but, perhaps even more so, in the Caucasus, the mountainous heartland of ancient Khazaria. (See “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses“)
The recent availability of genomic data of Caucasus populations (Behar et al. 2010) allowed testing the Khazarian Hypothesis for the first time and prompted us to contrast the Rhineland and Khazarian Hypotheses. To evaluate the two hypotheses, we carried out a series of comparative analyses between European Jews and surrogate Khazarian and Judean populations posing the same question each time: are Eastern and Central European Jews genetically closer to Caucasus or Middle Eastern populations? - Our PC, biogeographical estimation, admixture, IBD, ASD, and uniparental analyses were consistent in depicting a Caucasus ancestry for European Jews. Our first analyses revealed tight genetic relationship of European Jews and Caucasus populations and pinpointed the biogeographical origin of European Jews to the south of Khazaria (Figures 3,4). Our later analyses yielded a complex multi-ethnical ancestry with a slightly dominant Near Eastern-Caucasus ancestry, large Southern European and Middle Eastern ancestries, and a minor Eastern European contribution…
A slightly more flattering picture is provided by Arab geographer Istakhri:
The Khazars do not resemble the Turks. They are black-haired, and are of two kinds, one called the Kara-Khazars [Black Khazars] who are swarthy verging on deep black as if they were kind of Indian, and a white kind [Ak-Khazars], who are strikingly handsome. (Koestler 1976, p. 20)
However, Koestler (1976, p. 22) cautions the reader not to place too much weight on this description, since it was customary among Turkish peoples to refer to the ruling classes as “white” and the lower clans as “black.”
It is clear that the Khazars were closely connected to the Huns, who themselves are an ethnic mystery. The Byzantine rhetorician Priscus, who was part of an embassy to Attila the Hun’s court in 448 CE, reported that a people known as the “Akatzirs” or “White Khazars” were subjects of the Huns. According to Koestler (1976, p. 23), “Priscus’s chronicle confirms that the Khazars appeared on the European scene about the middle of the fifth century as a people under Hunnish sovereignty, and may be regarded, together with the Magyars and other tribes, as a later offspring of Attila’s horde.” After the collapse of the Hunnish Empire following Attila’s death, the confederation of tribes known as the Khazars eventually gained supremacy in the southern half of Eastern Europe, retaining control of this region for nearly four centuries.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
Lioness, I couldn't agree with you more.
That is why if a African Catholic came to this man demanding land in Italy:
They would shoot the nigger:
So then, I wonder what the real rationale could be here:
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ how ridiculous when the most likley candidate for pope is now an African.
And in what context would an African Catholic demand land in Italy? Do you think white Catholics from anywhere in the world go to Italy and demand land and the pope says "here's a piece of land for you, take this" ?
at least make up something that makes sense.
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Note to Negroes like lamin:
These people are Turk Mulattoes - they call themselves Palestinians.
These people are their cousins "Turkish Khazars".
Turks are Asian People, so obviously no Turk of any kind could possibly be native to those lands.
So who do you think that land really belongs to?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hint - though their numbers are dwindling.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] Note to Negroes like lamin:
These people are Turk Mulattoes - they call themselves Palestinians.
^^^ these are the people whose population are increasing
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HLA genetic studies relate Palestinians with other Middle East populations, like Jews
In genetic genealogy studies, Negev Bedouins have the highest rates of Haplogroup J1 (Y-DNA) among all populations tested (62.5%) followed by the Palestinian Arab 38.4%, Ashkenazi Jew 14.6%, and Sephardi Jew 11.9% according to Semino and colleagues. Semitic populations, including Jews, usually possess an excess of J1 Y chromosomes compared to other populations harboring Y-haplogroup J. The haplogroup J1, associated with marker M267, originates south of the Levant and was first disseminated from there into Ethiopia and Europe in Neolithic times. In Jewish populations J1 has a rate of around 15%, with haplogroup J2 (M172) (of eight sub-Haplogroups) being almost twice as common as J1 among Jews (<29%). J1 is most common in the southern Levant, as well as Syria, Iraq, Algeria, and Arabia, and drops sharply at the border of non-semitic areas like Turkey and Iran. A second diffusion of the J1 marker took place in the 7th century CE when Arabians brought it from Arabia to North Africa.
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Palestinians are semites not Turks
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Saudi tribalism lingers for kingdom's settled Bedouin.
Bedouin (multi ethnic desert nomads) Bedouin family at wedding,
Bedouin
worlds population total population 4,000,000
Saudi Arabia 829,000 (2000)
Egypt - mainly in Sinai 380,000 (2007)
Israel 250,000 (2012)
West Bank 30,000
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Palestinian
total world population 11,000,000
Palestinian territories 3,760,000 – West Bank (inc. East Jerusalem) 2,345,000 – Gaza Strip 1,416,000 Jordan 2,700,000 Israel 1,000,000+ Syria 630,000 Chile 500,000 Lebanon 402,582 Saudi Arabia 280,245 Egypt 270,245 United States 255,000 Honduras 250,000 United Arab Emirates 170,000 Mexico 120,000 Qatar 100,000 Germany 80,000 Kuwait 70,000 El Salvador 70,000 Brazil 59,000 Iraq 57,000 Yemen 55,000 Canada 50,975 Australia 45,000 Libya 44,000 United Kingdom 20,000 Peru 15,000 Colombia 12,000 Pakistan 8,500 Sweden 7,000 Guatemala
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Lioness, the technical term for them is "Turk Mulattoes". But as you know, I refer to them affectionately as "Sand Niggers".
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Lioness, the technical term for them is "Turk Mulattoes". But as you know, I refer to them affectionately as "Sand Niggers".
^^^ these people you call sand niggers. What is it you hate most about them?
Posted by Energy (Member # 16438) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
.
Should I point out the ERROR in your line of thought or should I leave you to figure out your mistake?
HINT: Muslim (Islam) and Christianity are RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS that anybody can join. Hebrew on the other hand are a race of Humans (ETHNIC). Meaning you can only born be born a Hebrew. No more no less.
In other words you are comparing APPLES and ORANGES.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Energy:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
.
Should I point out the ERROR in your line of thought or should I leave you to figure out your mistake?
HINT: Muslim (Islam) and Christianity are RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS that anybody can join. Hebrew on the other hand are a race of Humans (ETHNIC). Meaning you can only born be born a Hebrew. No more no less.
In other words you are comparing APPLES and ORANGES.
that's your definition the theme of this thread is who or what is a Jew. A person who is not a Jew is allowed by the religion to become a Jew by following the religion. Other definitions are racist
As far what living population of today would be closest to the original Hebrews the first step to estimate that is to look at DNA and determine if it indicates ancestry of the Levantine region.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Ghadames Tuareg girls in traditional dress, Libya.
Jordan, Siq Al Barid, Nabaean city of Beida called The Little Petra, Bedouin woman
Tuareg girl in traditional dress, Ghadames, Libya.
Mohamed Aded Adjab (right) and Naim Ahmed Sadeek, both Bedouin guides in Wadi Baremya, Eastern desert, Egypt.
Nasser, a nomadic Bedouin, rests with his family and goats to collect water from the artisan well at Bir Daghbag deep in the Eastern desert, Egypt.
Bedouin nomad in traditional attire, interior Sahara Desert, Morocco
Bedouin boy on a donkey, Shoubek, Jordan,
Tourist Rides on Bedouin Camel (Why there is so many mulattoes - Albino hussies).
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Lioness, the technical term for them is "Turk Mulattoes". But as you know, I refer to them affectionately as "Sand Niggers".
^^^ these people you call sand niggers. What is it you hate most about them? Also if not of sand type what type of nigger do you affectionatly regard yurself as?
Posted by Energy (Member # 16438) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Energy:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
.
Should I point out the ERROR in your line of thought or should I leave you to figure out your mistake?
HINT: Muslim (Islam) and Christianity are RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS that anybody can join. Hebrew on the other hand are a race of Humans (ETHNIC). Meaning you can only born be born a Hebrew. No more no less.
In other words you are comparing APPLES and ORANGES.
that's your definition the theme of this thread is who or what is a Jew. A person who is not a Jew is allowed by the religion to become a Jew by following the religion. Other definitions are racist
As far what living population of today would be closest to the original Hebrews the first step to estimate that is to look at DNA and determine if it indicates ancestry of the Levantine region.
My definition for Hebrew? Are you kidding me? How can you have a definition for the name of an ETHNIC group? Can you explain that? Hebrew being an Ethnic group is similar to saying someone is an ARAB. An Arab may have started Islam but it does not mean ALL Muslims are ARAB and vice-versa. Because being a Muslim is completely different from being an Arab. That is just elementary.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Mulattoes aren't necessarily bad.
Old farmer Oman
Bedouin horseman, Tunisia
Nomad In The Interior Sahara Desert
Bedouins making evening tea, desert near the oasis Al Ula, Saudi Arabia
Bedouin man at village of Matar in Wadi Shagg, Sinai, Egypt
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Energy:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Energy:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
Like a Muslim, Chrisitian or Jew they are defined by who accepts and practices the religion of any of those names.
For example what nation has the largest number of Muslims?
Indonesia
so are they fake Muslims now?
.
Should I point out the ERROR in your line of thought or should I leave you to figure out your mistake?
HINT: Muslim (Islam) and Christianity are RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS that anybody can join. Hebrew on the other hand are a race of Humans (ETHNIC). Meaning you can only born be born a Hebrew. No more no less.
In other words you are comparing APPLES and ORANGES.
that's your definition the theme of this thread is who or what is a Jew. A person who is not a Jew is allowed by the religion to become a Jew by following the religion. Other definitions are racist
As far what living population of today would be closest to the original Hebrews the first step to estimate that is to look at DNA and determine if it indicates ancestry of the Levantine region.
My definition for Hebrew? Are you kidding me? How can you have a definition for the name of an ETHNIC group? Can you explain that? Hebrew being an Ethnic group is similar to saying someone is an ARAB. An Arab may have started Islam but it does not mean ALL Muslims are ARAB and vice-versa. Because being a Muslim is completely different from being an Arab. That is just elementary.
This thread is about what a Jews are. Not all Muslims are Arab ( in fact most are not) . Likewise not all Jews are Hebrew.
Posted by Energy (Member # 16438) on :
The lioness please, stop insulting my intelligence. This discussion has many facets. My focus is on YOU putting a HEBREW in the same category as a Muslim and a Christian. That comparison in the context it was framed is false and completely misleading because a Hebrew does not belong in the same category as a Muslim or a Christian. You will be on point if you compared a Hebrew and an Arab because both are ethnic groups while Muslim and Christians are Religious groups. Therefore, for you to ask who was the original Christian or Muslim and then throw a Hebrew in the mix is MISLEADING.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Energy: The lioness please, stop insulting my intelligence. This discussion has many facets. My focus is on YOU putting a HEBREW in the same category as a Muslim and a Christian. That comparison in the context it was framed is false and completely misleading because a Hebrew does not belong in the same category as a Muslim or a Christian. You will be on point if you compared a Hebrew and an Arab because both are ethnic groups while Muslim and Christians are Religious groups. Therefore, for you to ask who was the original Christian or Muslim and then throw a Hebrew in the mix is MISLEADING.
stop trying to flip the script. The title of this thread is using the word "Jew" There have been many posts by various people using the word "Jew" You are trying to alter my statements by trying to replace the word "jew" with "Hebrew" not all Muslims are Arab not all Jews are Hebrew- stop insulting lioness intelligence and trying to play bait and switch
Posted by Energy (Member # 16438) on :
You are accusing me of altering your statement? Is the following not what you wrote?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
.
I have put the misleading statement in bold. So if I am quoting you verbatim how am I altering what you said?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Here is Emma with "Less" makeup.
But Oh my, her hair seems to have changed!
Past quote: (slender blondes with perfect complexions are de rigueur in the Big Apple)
Not meaning to beat-up on Emma, but the Albino mind is totally fuched-up!
Ohh come off it Mike, you know good and damn well that you love taking every opportunity you can get to bash, beat-up, degrade, demean, belittle, & dehumanize Whites doesn't matter what White, male or female as long as they're White, because you are a Black racist, White people hating, White people genocidist. BTW, I demand that you & Narmer cease & desist in your use of racist epithets against my people, the Whites that are on this forum don't use them against you therefore we deserve the same respect.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^^ How do you explain this:
1QapGen or Genesis Apocryphon, Column XX, from the Dead Sea Scrolls, describing Sarah:
''During the party, the Egyptians must have seen Saraii, and on their return they praised her to the king, saying "How beautiful is her face! How fine are the hairs of her head! How lovely are her eyes! How desirable her nose and all the radiance of her countenance. How fair are her breasts and how beautiful all her whiteness! How pleasing are her arms and how perfect her hands, and how desirable all the appearance of her hands! How fair are her palms and how long and slender are her fingers! How comely are her feet, how perfect her thighs! No virgin or bride led into the marriage chamber is more beautiful than she; she is fairer than all other women Truly, her beauty is greater than theirs Yet together with all this grace she possesses abundant wisdom, so that whatever she does is perfect." - Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Genesis Apocryphon of Quaman Cave I, 2nd ed. Rome, 1971 p. 63.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:But Oh my, her hair seems to have changed!
Many 'white' women may dye their hair, but there is no racial self-hatred unlike with black women.
This is what black are doing, going to extremes to get away from their nappy hair:
Now do white women put afro wigs on their babies?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Energy: You are accusing me of altering your statement? Is the following not what you wrote?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what population living today is most related to the original Muslims?
what population living today is most related to the original Christians?
what population living today is most related to the original Hebrews?
.
I have put the misleading statement in bold. So if I am quoting you verbatim how am I altering what you said?
if I put "original Muslim" it = they were Arab
attaching the word "original" then it indicates ethicity.
The most populous Muslim country is Indonesia but the are not the original Muslims who were Arabians
Likewise not all Jews are original Hebrews, you are just playing semantics, get back on track, this thread's theme is who or what is a Jew, answer: somebody who practices the religion of Judaism
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: This is what black are doing, going to extremes to get away from their nappy hair:
Now do white women put afro wigs on their babies?
I have no idea what this photo is about. But knowing first hand the depths of a Negroes stupidity, it may well be authentic.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Ohh come off it Mike, you know good and damn well that you love taking every opportunity you can get to bash, beat-up, degrade, demean, belittle, & dehumanize Whites doesn't matter what White, male or female as long as they're White, because you are a Black racist, White people hating, White people genocidist.
Doxie dear, I though that you would applaud my efforts to tamp down on the delusions of Albino males. I mean if I don't do it, then what happens when they see you the next morning - assuming you let Albino males have some.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:I have no idea what this photo is about.
I think its pretty obvious. AA's are around 13% of the American population, but are 99% of all consumers of hair straightening products. They crave long wavy or straight hair like "whites", and will do anything to hide or get rid of their wooly/nappy hair texture.
You & narmerthoth are always claiming "whites are defective" in their "albinoid" traits. Yet why are these traits universally admired? From light eyes, pale skin to long flowing hair. All traits absent in Negroids, but which they crave. Yet how many white women crave an afro? Are they en masse putting afro wigs on? lol. All your anger etc against who you call "albinos" is just closet-envy of the traits you admire.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Cass, sorry but it's the Albino girls who flock to me, not the other way around. Every planetary organism which strays from the ideal has a compelling attraction to return to it's normal state. Even plants which become brown due to insufficient nitrogen in the soil will seek to plant it's seed into a normal nitrogen rich soil to return it's normal green colour. The only huemans wishing to be defective are those with no choice, or those afflicted by mental illness.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^One thing I have to give Doxie credit for, is knowing how to avoid danger. She lies, and will go down lying, rather that facing the dangers of telling the truth.
I have read too many stories of Albino girls being so stupid as to admit their desire for Black men, only to be assaulted by Albino men.
Here is an example from AnswerBag:
Recently my wife and I were talking about our sexual fantasies ( she brought the subject up) then when I asked her if she had any fantasies she told me that she always wanted to have sex with a black man, Am I wrong for feeling inadequate now?
Albino women - DO NOT DO THAT! It is extremely dangerous. An Albino male can't help but feel inadequate in such a situation.
Instead, simply give the object of your desires the look; then a rendezvous can be arranged later. But be forewarned, some Black men don't roll that way, so just keep trying. If worst comes to worst, then there is always Mali. Though I think Doxie might have dibbs on him.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL!
True Dat!
There is a Hilton in my town which every other Friday has an open bar. On this day, the local white couples come to the bar with the sole objective of finding and meeting a black man for the wife. The joint has been raided twice by the local sheriff, these albinos have not given up. They just bankrolled another hotel a few miles away and they moved their lustful pursuit of Alpha males to the new location. They brag that they have been operating to find healthy strapping Alpha black males for wives for over 20 years.
Posted by lamin (Member # 5777) on :
Crazy Mike is at it again throwing around his stupid label "negro" on anyone who opposes his demented self-hating fantasies.
This demented maniac spends most of his time spamming ES with old paintings and photos from obscure and questionable sources. This laughable jackass comes up with silly neologisms such as "albinos"(for Europeans), "Turk mulatto"-as if that would change anything.
Mike, are you retired--so you can have all that time to spam your days away?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Test #1: Simplistic Albinism test
1. White skin: Check 2. Blond hair: Check 3. Blue eyes : Check 4. Less than 20/20 eyesight : Check
Sit in the summer sun for 3 hours. If you turn red, burn and peel, then you are an albino.
We dont have access to all the genetic data just yet, but blond hair appears to be caused by a younger mutation than red hair. Most likely, when the Lascaux cave paintings were created by the end of the Upper Paleolithic (ca. 15,000 BC) not a single human being in the world had either blond hair or blue eyes.
Blue eyes are common in many European populations but are nearly nonexistent in the rest of the world. They can occasionally be found in nearby areas such as northern Syria, among the Berbers of northwestern Africa or in regions which have been exposed to European genetic influences in the past, for example Afghanistan or parts of Central Asia since the Indo-European expansion, Alexander the Great and his men or certain traders and adventurers.
According to authors Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending*, blue eyes are caused by a change in a DNA sequence that is embedded in HERC2, the gene next to OCA2 (Albinism gene present in ALL Europeans). That allele accounts for 75 percent of the variation in eye color in Europe. Its the third longest haplotype in Europeans and therefore cant be very old: Analysis of the unshuffled region associated with OCA2 suggests that it originated about 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. Blue eyes are most common in northern Europe, centered around the Baltic.
quote:Originally posted by lamin: Crazy Mike is at it again throwing around his stupid label "negro" on anyone who opposes his demented self-hating fantasies.
This demented maniac spends most of his time spamming ES with old paintings and photos from obscure and questionable sources. This laughable jackass comes up with silly neologisms such as "albinos"(for Europeans), "Turk mulatto"-as if that would change anything.
Mike, are you retired--so you can have all that time to spam your days away?
lamin - Those old paintings and photos are called "Artifacts".
Artifact is a term used in the social sciences, particularly anthropology, ethnology, and sociology for anything created by humans which gives information about the culture of its creators and users.
Through careful analysis of these pictures, I have made many discovery's.
When I post a picture, I clearly describe it when it's identity is not obvious, so I really can't see how you could say "obscure and questionable sources".
Oh yes, I almost forgot, you are an Albino male, on a thread discussing the inadequacies of Albino males, and the Albino females preference for Black men.
Yes, I see your point, I would want to change the subject too.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
MK - The Albinos got you!
With these lying devils you have to read every line. They fooled you by mixing a little bit of truth with their normal lies.
Geneticists havent determined when red hair first came into being, but current estimates indicate that this event could have taken place already in the Paleolithic era. Carles Lalueza-Fox, a professor of genetics at the University of Barcelona, in 2007 claimed that his team had found a genetic variant among Neanderthals which is not present in humans today, but which causes an effect similar to that seen in modern redheads. Red hair among anatomically modern humans is associated with pale skin. It is an adaptation to the environment in northern climates with weak sunlight, especially in the winter. It appears as if the Neanderthals had lighter skin than the first African settlers in Europe, although the advances in paleogenetics are now so rapid that everything I say here could be proved or disproved in a few years.
Since there is plenty of vitamin D in fresh meat, hunter-gatherers in Europe may not have suffered from vitamin D shortages and thus may have been able to get by with fairly dark skin. In fact, this must have been the case, since several of the major mutations causing light skin color appear to have originated after the birth of agriculture. Vitamin D was not abundant in the new cereal-based diet, and´any resulting shortages would have been serious, since they could lead to bone malformations (rickets), decreased resistance to infectious diseases, and even cancer. This may be why natural selection favored mutations causing light skin, which allowed for adequate vitamin D synthesis in regions with little ultraviolet radiation.
As you know, Pale skin is exclusively a function of Albinism. And "Fresh Meat" has little Vitamin "D". Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ You know the drill. They never tell a story without peppering it with lies and deceptions. I've grown tired of consistently having to point out every lie in a paragraph, and over the years we've identified many of them here on ES. Hopefully, at this point ES readers are able to separate lies from truth, and factoid from facts.
remember Rasol and Mom attempted to divert the Albinism conversation by claiming blacks were Vitamin D deficient. It is their M.O., but as usual, they were wrong in even this topic by not understanding that because of eumelanin, blacks have the ability to retain and store 1.25 (up to 30% of RDA), whereas albino whites & Jews do not.
Recently there has been many articles published regarding how many streams, rivers, and water ways are now contaminated with Anti-Psychotic drugs and other medicines. What the articles all failed to mention is how and why these chemicals managed to find their way into major waterways.
Mike, the reason is the same as above. Whites/Jews have no melanin, so they cannot absorb and store excess chemicals found in drugs. They pass them right through in their urine and fecal matter right into the water ways. This research proves it by showing how blacks retain excess chemicals while albino Whites/Jews cannot. Since a minimum of 1/3rd of the world's albinos are prescribed anti-psychotic drugs, this can be disastrous for the future planetary ecosystem.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: MK - The Albinos got you!
With these lying devils you have to read every line. They fooled you by mixing a little bit of truth with their normal lies.
Geneticists havent determined when red hair first came into being, but current estimates indicate that this event could have taken place already in the Paleolithic era. Carles Lalueza-Fox, a professor of genetics at the University of Barcelona, in 2007 claimed that his team had found a genetic variant among Neanderthals which is not present in humans today, but which causes an effect similar to that seen in modern redheads. Red hair among anatomically modern humans is associated with pale skin. It is an adaptation to the environment in northern climates with weak sunlight, especially in the winter. It appears as if the Neanderthals had lighter skin than the first African settlers in Europe, although the advances in paleogenetics are now so rapid that everything I say here could be proved or disproved in a few years.
Since there is plenty of vitamin D in fresh meat, hunter-gatherers in Europe may not have suffered from vitamin D shortages and thus may have been able to get by with fairly dark skin. In fact, this must have been the case, since several of the major mutations causing light skin color appear to have originated after the birth of agriculture. Vitamin D was not abundant in the new cereal-based diet, and´any resulting shortages would have been serious, since they could lead to bone malformations (rickets), decreased resistance to infectious diseases, and even cancer. This may be why natural selection favored mutations causing light skin, which allowed for adequate vitamin D synthesis in regions with little ultraviolet radiation.
As you know, Pale skin is exclusively a function of Albinism. And "Fresh Meat" has little Vitamin "D".
There's not really that much vitamin D in meat, there's only a little in liver and it's about 10% of what an equal amount of fish has.
But nevermind that let's look at what Mike is saying generally here:
"Major mutations causing light skin color appear to have originated after the birth of agriculture. Vitamin D was not abundant in the new cereal-based diet" and´any resulting shortages would have been serious, since they could lead to bone malformations (rickets), decreased resistance to infectious diseases, and even cancer. This may be why natural selection favored mutations causing light skin, which allowed for adequate vitamin D synthesis in regions with little ultraviolet radiation. "
Mike you finally got it right.
And the amount of vitamin D in meat is irrelevant to the fact that the cereal based diet of the agriculturalists had less meat in it anyway. Rickets was particularly high in African Americans before the advent of vitamin D fortification in modern food products
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Liar In the average genetically "normal" person, 3 hours of direct sunlight provides a week worth of Vitamin D. Vitamin D acquisition is only an issue for albinos, or those with little to no melanin, I.E. Albinos and Albino dominate Mulattoes (Whites/Jews).
LOL, you've absorbed the Albino lie to such an extent, you still fail to realize that Vitamin D conversion is all about eumelanin, and that without it, no or little Vitamin D conversion occurs.
As Mike points out above, Whites/Jews lie. They do it all the time. At this point, it's habitual.
As example, whites/Jews lie about Inuits being able to retain their melanin from consumption of Vitamin D rich Whale and other sea-foods. This is a lie. The Inuit, like other "normal" hueman are able to obtain 1.25 serum conversion even in the poles where sunlight is abundant enough to be captured by their melanin. The whale meat only provides them with ample fat content to burn allowing them the internal energy to survive in cold temperatures.
Like your fellow albinos, you are a habitual liar. Prior to Albinos fortifying everything under the sun with Vitamin D, African Americans did not show any disproportionate levels of rickets. As the National Institute Of Health confirms, digesting the same diet as whites, black women birth babies with bone densities up to 30% greater than their Albino white/Jew counterparts.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Oh my, how Albinos can twist the truth!
Lioness, people of normal genes and intelligence know that the "Primary" source of Vitamin "D" for ALL humans is the SUN!
What you EAT should have nothing to do with it.
Hearing that; then your lying Albino mind would look for a NEW lie.
You might then say: Well Albinos in Asia and Europe had insufficient sunlight.
WRONG! The UV levels in those areas provided enough radiant energy so that 10 to 15 minutes of sun exposure of the face, arms and hands three to four times a week, will give you enough Vitamin D.
Note: Vitamin is stored in body fat. In times when the sun was weak, Vitamin D would be taken from fat.
See, assuming "ADEQUATE" nutrition, food had nothing to do with it. Just more Albino, Albinism denying bullsh1t. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Geneticists havent determined when red hair first came into being, but current estimates indicate that this event could have taken place already in the Paleolithic era. Carles Lalueza-Fox, a professor of genetics at the University of Barcelona, in 2007 claimed that his team had found a genetic variant among Neanderthals which is not present in humans today, but which causes an effect similar to that seen in modern redheads. Red hair among anatomically modern humans is associated with pale skin. It is an adaptation to the environment in northern climates with weak sunlight, especially in the winter. It appears as if the Neanderthals had lighter skin than the first African settlers in Europe, although the advances in paleogenetics are now so rapid that everything I say here could be proved or disproved in a few years.
Since there is plenty of vitamin D in fresh meat, hunter-gatherers in Europe may not have suffered from vitamin D shortages and thus may have been able to get by with fairly dark skin. In fact, this must have been the case, since several of the major mutations causing light skin color appear to have originated after the birth of agriculture. Vitamin D was not abundant in the new cereal-based diet, and´any resulting shortages would have been serious, since they could lead to bone malformations (rickets), decreased resistance to infectious diseases, and even cancer. This may be why natural selection favored mutations causing light skin, which allowed for adequate vitamin D synthesis in regions with little ultraviolet radiation.
As you know, Pale skin is exclusively a function of Albinism. And "Fresh Meat" has little Vitamin "D". [/QB]
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Liar
Mike points out here
As you know, Pale skin is exclusively a function of Albinism. And "Fresh Meat" has little Vitamin "D".
fresh meat does not have that much vitamin D. But it doesn't matter, agriculturalists ate less of it anyway game over
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: Prior to Albinos fortifying everything under the sun with Vitamin D, African Americans did not show any disproportionate levels of rickets.
look at any sources on this and you will find that Narmertot is a liar
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: As the National Institute Of Health confirms, digesting the same diet as whites, black women birth babies with bone densities up to 30% greater than their Albino white/Jew counterparts. [/QB]
vitamin D deficiency and rickets are separate conditions from comparative bone densisty, don't fall for the hustle
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Earth to lioness, that post was already responded to. We are now on the one with the UV indexes.
He,he,he: The one that you can't answer right away.
Don't worry lamin, lioness will soon think of a good lie.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Earth to lioness, that post was already responded to. We are now on the one with the UV indexes.
He,he,he: The one that you can't answer right away.
Don't worry lamin, lioness will soon think of a good lie.
put up the same charts for African countries
question: why don't white women marry black men more?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by lamin: This laughable jackass comes up with silly neologisms such as "Albinos" (for Europeans), "Turk mulatto" - as if that would change anything.
Actually it does have a purpose, and over time, it will change things. As you know, Negroes are Blacks with limited intellect.
You may or may not know this, but Negroes find this extremely hard to comprehend, it is totally different from what they have been taught (by Albinos) to believe.
Just imagine if Negroes actually saw you as what you are - Albinos!
Well in no time at all, their belief in you, and your greatness and superiority would be totally destroyed.
Then they would start thinking...
Scary thought huh?
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
I watched the great movie Trading places on AMC yesterday staring Eddy Murphy and Dan Aykroyd.Trading places story is a great story, the actor are great and the movie is funny.The story is about two wealthy traders brothers who make a bet that they can trade the place of their white star trader with a poor black street hustler.The goal was to find if success was due to genes or environement.Can a poor uneducated black street hustler replace an Harvard educated trader after receiving on site training from the wealthy brothers.
I think the movie producer/director put some symbol in the movie to show the wealthy traders brother name the Duke brothers were Jew.In the begining of the movie you can see the Duke brothers leaving their mansion inside their beautful vintage Rolls Royce wearing black hats.The symbol of Jewishess of the Duke brothers is the black hats of the Orthodox Jew.Gentile white male trader didnt wear black hat in the 1980s.
The Duke brothers character show them to be Jewish.The Duke brothers are cheap, they gave a $5 tip to a servant so he can go to the movie by himself.They complain about minimum wage payroll.
the Duke brothers cheating character show them to be Jew.Their China vase was insure with inflating false price.They pay a spy name Gibbs to steal the orange crop reports from Florida before it is release to the public so they can corner the orange juice commodity market.
The Duke brother cruelty show them to be Jewish.They destroyed the life of their star trader by framing him and sending him to prison because of their sociological study.They make a black street hustler succesful just to trow him in the street again because they will never let a N word run their family business.
Another clue of Jewishness of the Duke brothers is you can see the painting of the city of Venice inside Winthorp the white trader house.It is a reminder of Shakespear Jewish merchant of Venice.
The movie is excellent, it open with a nice Mozart or Beethoven classical music and image of the street life of Philadelphia.You can see the rich class being serve by their servants in their mansion and living their mansion in their Limousine.You can see the social club of the rich in downtown Philly with the painting of old members on the wall.You can see commodity tradind inside the now destroyed world trade center of New York.
The actors are great the movie look real because of them.Eddy Murphy is at is best playing the role of a funny street hustler.The actor playing the role of the wealthy Jewish Duke brothers act like they were born wealthy Jew.Dan Aykroid act like he was a privilege spoil elite person.Eddy African ascent was good, Dan Aykroid African ascent was OK. Trading places is a good and funny movie. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
BTW - That's why I post pictures of Black Arabs at every opportunity. After all these years, I still see Negroes referring to the Mulattoes in North Africa and the Levant as "Arabs".
Negroes are trying, if I could, I would bleach them and give them to you. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Also note a big differrence between Northern and Southern climates.
In Southern climate native people often walk around with skirt like garb, no shirt, no pants.
In Northern climates it's too cold to do that so the amount of skin exposed that is available to absorb sunlight is ten times less because it's mainly only face and hands, occasionally forearms that are exposed. All the more reason to reduce the protective melanin content in the skin. It becomes unecessary to have that much.
People who are doing things outside are not exposing themsleves the same way somebody tanning at the beach does. They move around sometimes facing the sun, other times not.
Obviously people walking around with their whole torso and legs exposed are going to absorb much more sunlight than somebody with shirt and pants on. So the temeperature is affecting the conditions, forcing the person to wear clothing reducing greatly surface exposure, before we even get to the point about lesser UV levels in Northern climes. Also in far North regions have winter periods that stay dark for extended periods of time. Luckily people can still go ice fishing for fish if they are not inland people
now carry on with the lies
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by lamin: This laughable jackass comes up with silly neologisms such as "Albinos" (for Europeans), "Turk mulatto" - as if that would change anything.
Actually it does have a purpose, and over time, it will change things. As you know, Negroes are Blacks with limited intellect.
You may or may not know this, but Negroes find this extremely hard to comprehend, it is totally different from what they have been taught (by Albinos) to believe.
Just imagine if Negroes actually saw you as what you are - Albinos!
Well in no time at all, their belief in you, and your greatness and superiority would be totally destroyed.
Then they would start thinking...
Scary thought huh?
yet lamin probably has less if any Caucasin admixture compared to you
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: I watched the great movie Trading places on AMC yesterday staring Eddy Murphy and Dan Aykroyd.Trading places story is a great story, the actor are great and the movie is funny.The story is about two wealthy traders brothers who make a bet that they can trade the place of their white star trader with a poor black street hustler.The goal was to find if success was due to genes or environement.Can a poor uneducated black street hustler replace an Harvard educated trader after receiving on site training from the wealthy brothers.
I think the movie producer/director put some symbol in the movie to show the wealthy traders brother name the Duke brothers were Jew.In the begining of the movie you can see the Duke brothers leaving their mansion inside their beautful vintage Rolls Royce wearing black hats.The symbol of Jewishess of the Duke brothers is the black hats of the Orthodox Jew.Gentile white male trader didnt wear black hat in the 1980s.
The Duke brothers character show them to be Jewish.The Duke brothers are cheap, they gave a $5 tip to a servant so he can go to the movie by himself.They complain about minimum wage payroll.
the Duke brothers cheating character show them to be Jew.Their China vase was insure with inflating false price.They pay a spy name Gibbs to steal the orange crop reports from Florida before it is release to the public so they can corner the orange juice commodity market.
The Duke brother cruelty show them to be Jewish.They destroyed the life of their star trader by framing him and sending him to prison because of their sociological study.They make a black street hustler succesful just to trow him in the street again because they will never let a N word run their family business.
Another clue of Jewishness of the Duke brothers is you can see the painting of the city of Venice inside Winthorp the white trader house.It is a reminder of Shakespear Jewish merchant of Venice.
The movie is excellent, it open with a nice Mozart or Beethoven classical music and image of the street life of Philadelphia.You can see the rich class being serve by their servants in their mansion and living their mansion in their Limousine.You can see the social club of the rich in downtown Philly with the painting of old members on the wall.You can see commodity tradind inside the now destroyed world trade center of New York.
The actors are great the movie look real because of them.Eddy Murphy is at is best playing the role of a funny street hustler.The actor playing the role of the wealthy Jewish Duke brothers act like they were born wealthy Jew.Dan Aykroid act like he was a privilege spoil elite person.Eddy African ascent was good, Dan Aykroid African ascent was OK. Trading places is a good and funny movie.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: I watched the great movie Trading places on AMC yesterday staring Eddy Murphy and Dan Aykroyd.Trading places story is a great story, the actor are great and the movie is funny.The story is about two wealthy traders brothers who make a bet that they can trade the place of their white star trader with a poor black street hustler.The goal was to find if success was due to genes or environement.Can a poor uneducated black street hustler replace an Harvard educated trader after receiving on site training from the wealthy brothers.
I think the movie producer/director put some symbol in the movie to show the wealthy traders brother name the Duke brothers were Jew.In the begining of the movie you can see the Duke brothers leaving their mansion inside their beautful vintage Rolls Royce wearing black hats.The symbol of Jewishess of the Duke brothers is the black hats of the Orthodox Jew.Gentile white male trader didnt wear black hat in the 1980s.
The Duke brothers character show them to be Jewish.The Duke brothers are cheap, they gave a $5 tip to a servant so he can go to the movie by himself.They complain about minimum wage payroll.
the Duke brothers cheating character show them to be Jew.Their China vase was insure with inflating false price.They pay a spy name Gibbs to steal the orange crop reports from Florida before it is release to the public so they can corner the orange juice commodity market.
The Duke brother cruelty show them to be Jewish.They destroyed the life of their star trader by framing him and sending him to prison because of their sociological study.They make a black street hustler succesful just to trow him in the street again because they will never let a N word run their family business.
Another clue of Jewishness of the Duke brothers is you can see the painting of the city of Venice inside Winthorp the white trader house.It is a reminder of Shakespear Jewish merchant of Venice.
The movie is excellent, it open with a nice Mozart or Beethoven classical music and image of the street life of Philadelphia.You can see the rich class being serve by their servants in their mansion and living their mansion in their Limousine.You can see the social club of the rich in downtown Philly with the painting of old members on the wall.You can see commodity tradind inside the now destroyed world trade center of New York.
The actors are great the movie look real because of them.Eddy Murphy is at is best playing the role of a funny street hustler.The actor playing the role of the wealthy Jewish Duke brothers act like they were born wealthy Jew.Dan Aykroid act like he was a privilege spoil elite person.Eddy African ascent was good, Dan Aykroid African ascent was OK. Trading places is a good and funny movie.
Eddie Murphy made a lot of movies with subtle yanking of the sheets from white heads and minds. Trading Places, Harlem Nights and Coming to America are a few. Then Arsenio and Eddie got themselves massively censored by the Hollywood Jews.
Take a look at Murphy's last movie, 1000 words, where is is subtly telling everyone how Albinos have gagged him and his creativity from exposing and making more fun of their sick society.
Tower Heist had been written by Murphy to have an all black cast. When he handed the story to Jew writers for converting it into a screen play, they came back to Murphy and said they couldn't make it work with the all black cast and they had to replace them with talentless Jews. The usual Jew justification is that movie goers want to see whites rather than blacks. If this were true the movie wouldn't have been a flop with 1/1000th the popularity of all black cast classics, Coming To America and Harlem Nights.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Also note a big differrence between Northern and Southern climates.
In Southern climate native people often walk around with skirt like garb, no shirt, no pants.
In Northern climates it's too cold to do that so the amount of skin exposed that is available to absorb sunlight is ten times less because it's mainly only face and hands, occasionally forearms that are exposed. All the more reason to reduce the protective melanin content in the skin. It becomes unecessary to have that much.
People who are doing things outside are not exposing themsleves the same way somebody tanning at the beach does. They move around sometimes facing the sun, other times not.
Obviously people walking around with their whole torso and legs exposed are going to absorb much more sunlight than somebody with shirt and pants on. So the temeperature is affecting the conditions, forcing the person to wear clothing reducing greatly surface exposure, before we even get to the point about lesser UV levels in Northern climes. Also in far North regions have winter periods that stay dark for extended periods of time. Luckily people can still go ice fishing for fish if they are not inland people
now carry on with the lies
Yet another bulls-+t post with meaningless conjecture and factoids which have absolutely nothing to do with the "normal" body's ability to absorb UV to convert to Vitamin D.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Also note a big difference between Northern and Southern climates.
In Southern climate native people often walk around with skirt like garb, no shirt, no pants.
Well actually, wherever Albinos go, they ALWAYS have a problem with the SUN!
Australia:
Too much sun causes skin cancer, not enough leaves us short of Vitamin D. How much sun should we be getting? Australian researchers have come up with some guidelines.
Most Australians consider ourselves to be outdoorsy types. We're a nation of sun-drenched, beach dwelling, bronzed Paul Hogans and Chips Raffertys.
But this national image is a mirage - the reality is we don't get out as much as we could - or should.
Long working hours, the shift to service industries (often office-based), the decline in outdoor activities, the rise in popularity of screen games and computers all mean that we're spending more and more time indoors, out of the sun.
Sunlight is the major source of vitamin D in our bodies (about 90 per cent) and studies show falling levels of Vitamin D in our bodies because of the time we spend indoors.
Low vitamin D levels can cause osteoporosis, a condition in which our bones lose calcium, become brittle and are susceptible to fracture. And it's also been linked with multiple sclerosis, diabetes, bowel cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer and lymphoma.
Studies suggest that between about a third and a half of Australians have at least marginal vitamin D deficiency.
Some groups in the community have more serious vitamin D deficiency; people with dark skin, people who are elderly, housebound, bedridden, and women of the Islamic faith who cover their skin.
Sunlight and cancer
But Australia also has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world - thanks to our (predominantly) fair Northern European skin and the abundant sunlight that is there when we care to take it. By far the biggest cause of skin cancer is the ultraviolet light in sunlight. In Australia, about 95 per cent of cutaneous melanomas, and 99 per cent of squamous and basal cell carcinomas are caused by solar UV radiation.
So what we need is a balance - enough sun to make Vitamin D; but not enough to give us skin cancer.
The question is; how much is enough? A group of experts from a wide range of medical disciplines have come up with some rules of thumb and published them in the latest Medical Journal of Australia.
They tried to find out how much sun you need to get enough Vitamin D, taking into account seasonal and geographic variations in Australia - because sunlight varies from place to place and at different times of the year.
To find out how much sun shone in what parts of Australia, and when, they analyzed daily UV radiation levels in major cities across Australia collected by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) over a year (in 2001).
They also needed to know how much sun in these places and these times was needed to produce sun damage to the skin. The measurement of damage they used was the amount of UV radiation needed to cause erythema - the red flushing of the skin caused by exposure to sunlight. (The more erythema, the greater the likelihood of damage and cancer).
Because of the variables of geography and seasons, and variations in how an individual reacts to sunlight, it wasn't possible to come up with hard and fast rules - but they did produce some useful guidelines.
Avoid the midday sun
The time when the skin makes most Vitamin D is when it's exposed to the midday summer sun - but that's the time the skin is most easily damaged.
In January for example, across Australia, 2 to 14 minutes of sun three to four times per week at midday will give fair-skinned people with 15 per cent of the body exposed the recommended amount of Vitamin D. However, redness can occur in only eight minutes in these conditions.
So in peak summer times from 10 am to 3pm, you should use protection against the sun; shade, hats, clothing, sunglasses and sunscreen.
But earlier in the day and later in the afternoon, for a similar period of sun exposure and vitamin D manufacture, you get much less skin damage.
From October to March, around Australia, 10 to 15 minutes of unprotected sun exposure of the face, arms and hands before 10am or after 3pm, three to four times a week, will give you enough Vitamin D without skin damage.
But this may not be enough in southern states, especially in winter. You'll need longer periods of exposure or more flesh exposed to the sun.
In Melbourne and Hobart from April to September, and Sydney and Adelaide in June and July, you may actually need short periods of exposure in peak UV times ie 10am to 3pm to get enough vitamin D.
Longer for dark skins
Note that the figures only apply to fair skinned people. People with very dark skin need around six times more exposure to UV radiation to produce as much vitamin D as someone with fair skin. These people may need sunlight exposure during peak times - ie the middle of the day - especially in the southern states from April to September, and in the central areas of Australia in June and July.
On the other hand these people are less likely to get skin damage because of greater amounts of pigment in their skin.
(He,he,he: to paraphrase - we're fuched-up but Blacks are fuched-up too). Ah, the Albinos delusions.
^ Which proves that Whites (albinos) are not native to anywhere. They burn every where, even in Alaska and Russia.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Geneticists havent determined when red hair first came into being, but current estimates indicate that this event could have taken place already in the Paleolithic era. Carles Lalueza-Fox, a professor of genetics at the University of Barcelona, in 2007 claimed that his team had found a genetic variant among Neanderthals which is not present in humans today, but which causes an effect similar to that seen in modern redheads. Red hair among anatomically modern humans is associated with pale skin. It is an adaptation to the environment in northern climates with weak sunlight, especially in the winter.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Red hair among anatomically modern humans is associated with pale skin. It is an adaptation to the environment in northern climates with weak sunlight, especially in the winter.
For the sake of argument, let us "Test" the European hypothesis that they "Turned White" because of a lack of Sunshine and the resultant lack of Vitamin "D". The "BROWN" Nenets live mostly in the areas indicated on this map.
While some Nenets live on the coast and have access to Ocean Fish, many are Reindeer herders who live almost entirely off of the Reindeer (Note: Reindeer Meat does NOT contain Vitamin "D").
Yet the Nenet are still "DARK-SKINNED".
Except for those who have admixed with the various Albino groups who have moved north in the modern era. Groups such as the The Albino Komi peoples.
Now contrast the Nenets with the people of Ireland (known to have the highest percentage of "Redheads" in the world). Red hair of course being a classic symptom of type-2 Albinism.
Ireland is about 1,000 miles further SOUTH than the Nenets homeland, therefore it has much more, and STRONGER Sunlight than the Nenets homeland. It also has over 3,700 kilometers (2,300 mi) of coastline, affording the Irish people ample sources of Vitamin "D" from Ocean Fish. Yet the Irish are probably the PALEST Humans on planet Earth! (Note the almost total lack of Melanin in the following European females). Most Europeans today are of course not so pale, over the many thousands of years, they have gained pigmentation through admixture with the indigenous Blacks of Europe, and with Blacks around the world.
Some even say that they're NOT Albinos because Albinos have "BAD EYESIGHT" and they don't. (They never explain why the Africans with "GOOD EYESIGHT" are still Albinos, but they aren't. (Shouldn't we call those many African Albinos who overwhelmingly have good eyesight "Europeans" or some such thing)? What foolishness these Albinism denials are.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike cut the fricking Bull **** you stupid White people hating, Kill Whitey, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing Black racist son of satan. You know good an well we Whites are NOT nor have we ever been Albinos, Blacks are NOT indigenous to Europe, we are. You & your cohorts seek only to deny us of everything that rightfully belongs to us, to deny us of our place on earth, to demean, degrade, & dehumanize us out of your desire to exterminate Whitey. Mike come now, that woman may be albino(something Whites are NOT) but she still has NEGRO features not White (Caucasian)features and is still BLACK. BTW, in response to your other post, sorry but I tell the truth when I say I don't like Black men, I don't I find them to be ugly & disgusting.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
Mike, exactly how are "whites" Negroid albinos, when Negroids in bone structure look nothing like Caucasoids. Jeeze, even your own pictures just above debunk you and make this very point. "Blacks" skeletally look nothing like Caucasoids. Even Narmerthoth was forced to admit this a while back.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL, what I admitted was that the very existence of Albinism will cause differences in bone structure between Albinos and noraml people (blacks). Due to their melanin deficiency, albinos will have problems converting UV to Vitamin D, which will in-turn cause them to have less dense, weaker bone structures.
Haven't you been following the Vitamin D discussion? Do I have to break it all down and spell all of the implications & ramifications out for you?
Looky here; The chicken does not come before the egg. You should hold your albino counterparts responsible for feeding you all those lies, half-truths and misinformation about melanin and it's various life giving attributes.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: Mike, exactly how are "whites" Negroid albinos, when Negroids in bone structure look nothing like Caucasoids. Jeeze, even your own pictures just above debunk you and make this very point. "Blacks" skeletally look nothing like Caucasoids. Even Narmerthoth was forced to admit this a while back.
Cass, Cass, putting words in my mouth won't work; note that even lioness had to run away on this one. No my boy, I was merely making the logical argument that if the criteria for being White but NOT being an Albino - as Europeans claim to be - is good eyesight. Then logically ANY White person with good eyesight should be in the same group as Europeans, that is White but non-Albino. Since Africa has millions of these type people, then we should stop calling them Albinos, and instead, call them Europeans.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^ The problem you have is this:
Albino Caucasoids ("whites") are lighter than all Caucasoids.
So if albino = white people. Why when white people have albinos are they lighter?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: ^ The problem you have is this:
Albino Caucasoids ("whites") are lighter than all Caucasoids.
So if albino = white people. Why when white people have albinos are they lighter?
Really Cass, that is totally a lame lie. There is four (4) types of Albinism, each with different levels of Whiteness, plus the Albinoids. The woman on the left is a OCA-1, and the one on the right is closer to an Albinoid: an organism with only a diminished amount of melanin is described as albinoid.
Here are some Asian OCA-1 Albinos, please tell us what makes the European type 1s better.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike did anyone say that an albino White person is better than an albino Asian person? I don't think anyone did. Neither is better than the other just the Asian Albino is not White & is not one of our people while the White (Caucasoid) Albino is White & is one of our people.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^So can you say what it is the makes Europeans, Europeans?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Modern Europeans are not true Albinos
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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: [qb] ^ The problem you have is this:
Albino Caucasoids ("whites") are lighter than all Caucasoids.
So if albino = white people. Why when white people have albinos are they lighter?
Really Cass, that is totally a lame lie. There is four (4) types of Albinism, each with different levels of Whiteness, plus the Albinoids. The woman on the left is a OCA-1, and the one on the right is closer to an Albinoid: an organism with only a diminished amount of melanin is described as albinoid.
let's see the 4 types in a set of European or Americans
and then in a set of the 4 types Africans or African Americans
-you fraud
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
LOL, they USED to think they knew, back when all the lies they've been told were still believable.
Look at Cass asking silly questions which have already been answered numerous times regarding the differences between OCA-1, OCA-2, and OCA-3. We have already shown conclusively that the majority of whites/Jews fall within the bonds of OCA-1 or OCA-2. There is no question about the validity of this reality. It's a done deal, and non-debatable.
The LIAR plays the same game, but we aren't biting.
Looky here folks. Albinism is real and it affects the majority of the white population, mainly due to the lies propagated over the last 100 years which gave whites a false sense of security and false feelings of superiority built on lies.
Had your cats not been deceived with lies about whyn your skin is milk white and eyes sky blue, your Grand-parents may have well been able to ensure that you at least could return to Huemanity. Instead, your Grand-parents choose to take the Nazi path and promote the superior race fiction dooming their grandchildren (you) to a destiny of Albinism. Doxie, next time you visit the local klan HQs, ask the Wizard to allow you time to speak with the mob. Inform them all that you are Albinos and need to marry normal people to ensure your grandchildren will be blessed with melanin. Break the vicious cycle of lies and mutant living. Tell them your ancestors left the black not by choice, but your return to black is the best choice for your phoney race.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [Instead, your Grand-parents choose to take the Nazi path and promote the superior race fiction dooming their grandchildren (you) to a destiny of Albinism. Doxie, next time you visit the local klan HQs, ask the Wizard to allow you time to speak with the mob. Inform them all that you are Albinos and need to marry normal people to ensure your grandchildren will be blessed with melanin. Break the vicious cycle of lies and mutant living. Tell them your ancestors left the black not by choice, but your return to black is the best choice for your phoney race. [/QB]
But you and Mike are like copy cats of the Nazis and Klan, you just take the same philosophy and switch the roles,
and at the same time you are in agreement with them about Jews.
so you guys have a lot in common different sides of the same coin
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [Instead, your Grand-parents choose to take the Nazi path and promote the superior race fiction dooming their grandchildren (you) to a destiny of Albinism. Doxie, next time you visit the local klan HQs, ask the Wizard to allow you time to speak with the mob. Inform them all that you are Albinos and need to marry normal people to ensure your grandchildren will be blessed with melanin. Break the vicious cycle of lies and mutant living. Tell them your ancestors left the black not by choice, but your return to black is the best choice for your phoney race.
But you and Mike are like copy cats of the Nazis and Klan, you just take the same philosophy and switch the roles,
and at the same time you are in agreement with them about Jews.
so you guys have a lot in common different sides of the same coin [/QB]
No Liar, once again you are grasping at straws with a bony and weak hand.
Mike and I do not and have never advocated for any Nazi like Blond, and blue eyed white superior Master race by exchanging the above for black. All we have done is to evaluate and post medical information from mainstream medical community to makes sense of the insanity we observe from whites. This evaluation has not only explained your insanity, but even traces your insanity to it's origins, Albinism. Don't hate Mike and I. All we've done is to present all of the very specific descriptions of Albinism as presented by hospitals such as Johns Hopkins, MAYO Clinic, University Of Tokyo, etc. That YOU would describe this as Nazi or klan like only serves to show how very reactionary you are in your denial of information from people who are obviously, much more intelligent than yourself.
A patient with subclinical oculocutaneous albinism type 2 diagnosed on getting severely sunburned.
P-gene-related oculocutaneous albinism (OCA2) is an autosomal recessive disorder. The phenotype is typically somewhat less severe than that of the tyrosinase-negative type (OCA1A). One of the mutations in the P gene, A481T, is associated with a mild phenotype, occasionally with no distinctive skin manifestations, which is called subclinical OCA. We present a Japanese patient having the A481T mutant allele in the P gene with subclinical oculocutaneous albinism diagnosed on getting severely sunburned. The A481T mutant allele is relatively common in the Caucasian population as well as in Japan, indicating that a number of subclinical patients of OCA2 might exist not only in Japan, but also all over the world.
Kawai M, Suzuki T, Ito S, Inagaki K, Suzuki N, Tomita Y Department of Dermatology, Nagoya University Graduate School of Medicine, Nagoya, Japan. Dermatology (Basel, Switzerland) [2005, 210(4):322-323]
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
And thats in no way a compliment since it doesn't take much to be more intelligent than the "lioness". lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Obviously the zionists and Nazis hated each other and had completetly different general agendas, nevertheless the zionists who were basically secular nationalists negotiated with the Nazis to cooperate with them for a Jewish state in Israel. This seemed more preferable to them than to wait around in Germany to be sent into concentration camps. And some of the Nazis supported this because they thought is was a good way to get Jews out of Germany and purify the Aryan race. But later on Hitler and certian other Nazis didn't like the idea because while it would help rid Germany of Jews they might have to contend with a Jewish state later. Although now there are more jews in the U.S. than in Israel during WWII many of the European countries would not take in the larger numbers of Jewish refugees forced out by the Nazis. So zionist or not many of these Jews were virtually forced to migrate to Israel. The zionists liked this because they alawys wanted an independant state anyway instead of being a constant minority that could be harassed.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Stick to the topic. It's obvious to all that you are intentionally attempting to divert the conversation since it is not going your way.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: So zionist or not many of these Jews were virtually forced to migrate to Israel. The zionists liked this because they alawys wanted an independant state anyway instead of being a constant minority that could be harassed.
As I understand it, the world-wide Jewish population is about 14 million. While the Jewish population of Israel is about 6 million.
Really think it's a good idea to place almost half of your population in one place?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [Instead, your Grand-parents choose to take the Nazi path and promote the superior race fiction dooming their grandchildren (you) to a destiny of Albinism. Doxie, next time you visit the local klan HQs, ask the Wizard to allow you time to speak with the mob. Inform them all that you are Albinos and need to marry normal people to ensure your grandchildren will be blessed with melanin. Break the vicious cycle of lies and mutant living. Tell them your ancestors left the black not by choice, but your return to black is the best choice for your phoney race.
But you and Mike are like copy cats of the Nazis and Klan, you just take the same philosophy and switch the roles,
and at the same time you are in agreement with them about Jews.
so you guys have a lot in common different sides of the same coin
No Liar, once again you are grasping at straws with a bony and weak hand.
Mike and I do not and have never advocated for any Nazi like Blond, and blue eyed white superior Master race by exchanging the above for black. All we have done is to evaluate and post medical information from mainstream medical community to makes sense of the insanity we observe from whites. This evaluation has not only explained your insanity, but even traces your insanity to it's origins, Albinism. Don't hate Mike and I. All we've done is to present all of the very specific descriptions of Albinism as presented by hospitals such as Johns Hopkins, MAYO Clinic, University Of Tokyo, etc. That YOU would describe this as Nazi or klan like only serves to show how very reactionary you are in your denial of information from people who are obviously, much more intelligent than yourself.
A patient with subclinical oculocutaneous albinism type 2 diagnosed on getting severely sunburned.
you and Mike's melanin supremacist agenda is to deport the whites of Europe and America to Central Asia by force and kill them if necessary
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: So zionist or not many of these Jews were virtually forced to migrate to Israel. The zionists liked this because they alawys wanted an independant state anyway instead of being a constant minority that could be harassed.
As I understand it, the world-wide Jewish population is about 14 million. While the Jewish population of Israel is about 6 million.
Really think it's a good idea to place almost half of your population in one place?
it sounds like a pretty good idea good idea
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL Fool. We have never advocated for any kind of superiority. Only Albinos have the compulsion to take some a reactionary route.
All we have pointed out are valid medical realities. Say you were born with a small hole in the surface of your heart and I wasn't. You came to see me and I took a chest X-Ray and after finding the hole I pointed it out to you while detailing certain negative realities resulting from this condition. Would I be showing signs of superiority? Of course not. The only thing I would be guilty of is assessing your condition and providing you with a break down of all of the negative ramifications with your condition. It's not my fault that there really aren't any positive attributes to your condition. It is what it is.
Screening of TYR, OCA2, GPR143, and MC1R in patients with congenital nystagmus, macular hypoplasia, and fundus hypopigmentation indicating albinism
Albinism is a recessively inherited disease of disturbed melanin synthesis and/or melanin distribution in the epidermis, scalp, uvea, and retinal pigment epithelium (My Note: Of course we have already shown how melanin deficiency has negative ramifications in many more vital systems than mentioned here, but have an impact on hearing, immunity, brain chemistry imbalance, as well as reproductive processes). Melanocytes are the site of melanin synthesis, where black-brown eumelanin (found in eumelanosomes) and red-brown pheomelanin (in pheomelanosomes) can be distinguished.(My note: While melanins are manufactured in skin melanocytes, they are transported throughout the body for use in local systems such as the Neural Crest where they are used to manufacture and form Dopamine, Serotonin, and Neuromelanins (Neurotransmitters)) Eumelanin and pheomelanin production shares a common pathway, with L-3,4-dihydroxyphenylalanine (L-DOPA) being a common precursor.
In albinism, melanocytes fail to synthesize or distribute melanins properly, which results in oculocutaneous albinism (OCA) presenting with absent or reduced tanning, white, blond, or red-blond scalp, blue irides, and hypopigmented fundi due to a lack of pigments in the skin, hair, and eyes. Autosomal recessive ocular albinism (OA) and X-linked OA present respectively with hypopigmented retinal pigment epithelium and iris pigment epithelial cells only [1]. Albinism is an obvious condition in dark-pigmented populations. However, light complexion, blond hair, and blue irides are features frequent among nonalbinotic individuals in a population like that of Northern Europe, thus compromising their significance when it comes to a diagnosis of albinism. The classical ocular signs of albinism (nystagmus, macular hypoplasia, and hypopigmentation of the fundus) are more reliable in identifying patients with albinism, as they are more specific.
Sequence variants in OCA2
Pathogenic sequence variants in OCA2 were more frequent in our patient cohort than TYR variants (25% versus 11% in OCA, 17% versus 3% in OA3). These findings suggest that mutations in additional genes remain to be identified in patients fulfilling the selection criteria that were applied in this study.
Two splice site variants were identified in OCA2 that have been known for a long time (Appendix 1). c.1113T-C has been regarded as an isocoding polymorphism (p.G371) at the amino acid level. An evaluation of this variant on the Splice Sequence Finder Server has now demonstrated the gain of a novel splice donor site, which has not been considered before. We identified this variant in two patients, one in the homozygous, and one in the compound heterozygous state, supporting its pathogenicity. Patient 979.1 presented with OCA and was of Turkish origin. The patient carried c.1113T-C in the compound heterozygous state with p.R419Q in OCA2 and p.R160W in MC1R. A Vietnamese OCA patient (2117.2) showed the c.1113T-C variant in the homozygous state. In addition, he carried a second homozygous variant in OCA2 (p.G775S [c.2323G>A]). Evaluation by PolyPhen and SIFT were contradictory; therefore, p.G775S could not be rated pathogenic or nonpathogenic. This subject’s affected mother (2117.1) and father (2117.3) both carried the same combined allele ([c.1113C>T, p.G775S]) heterozygously. The affected mother carried an additional common variant of the Asian population (p.H615R [c.1844A>G]), supporting our interpretation [33].
Markus N. Preising,1,2 Hedwig Forster,1 Miriam Gonser,1 Birgit Lorenz1,2
1Department of Paediatric Ophthalmology, Strabismology, and Ophthalmogenetics, University Medical Centre, University of Regensburg, Regensburg, Germany; 2Department of Ophthalmology, Justus-Liebig-University Giessen, Universitaetsklinikum Giessen and Marburg GmbH, Giessen Campus, Giessen, German
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] ^ LOL Fool. We have never advocated for any kind of superiority. Only Albinos have the compulsion to take some a reactionary route.
^^^^ this is why people like Narmertot are dangerous, the spout the most virulent forms of biological racism and pretend like they are totally innocent "scientists" at least Mike's honest enough to say he wants whites deported
similar to a reverse of what Cassisertides wants.
Mike and Narmer are wicked, They just don't have the opportunity to carry out their plans so they come here to vent their piss. Frustrated brothers who worked for the man all their lives
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Instead, your Grand-parents choose to take the Nazi path and promote the superior race fiction dooming their grandchildren (you) to a destiny of Albinism.
The traits you claim are defective, always turn out to be superior. Dark skin is linked to lower IQ, impulsive behaviour and sexual aggression, pale skin the opposite. This is not only observed in Humans, but other animals.
Ducrest, A. L., Keller, L., & Roulin, R. (2008). Pleiotropy in the melanocortin system, coloration and behavioural syndromes. Trends in Ecology and Evolution, 23, 502–510
"Pigmentation of the hair, skin, cuticle, feather and eye is one of the most salient and variable attributes of vertebrates. In many species, melanin-based coloration is found to be pleiotropically linked to behavior. We review animal studies that have found darker pigmented individuals average higher amounts of aggression and sexual activity than lighter pigmented individuals. We hypothesize that similar relationships between pigmentation, aggression, and sexuality occur in humans. We first review the literature on non-human animals and then review some of the correlates of melanin in people, including aggression and sexual activity. Both within human populations (e.g., siblings), and between populations (e.g., races, nations, states), studies find that darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression and sexual activity (and also lower IQ)." (Rushton and Templar, 2012) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840
Much of this explains the violent behaviour, especially sexual, in Black males, particularly targeted at white women.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Uh, oh. Here comes the Liar's cohort. The real Nazis. That is Nazi research you are quoting. Didn't you know?
As a category of theory, scientific racism employs anthropology (notably physical anthropology), anthropometry, craniometry, and other disciplines, in fabricating anthropologic typologies supporting the classification of human populations into physically discrete human races that are claimed to be superior or inferior.
Scientific racism was most common during the New Imperialism period (c. 1880s–1914) where it was used in justifying White European imperialism. Since the later 20th century, scientific racism has been criticized as obsolete and as historically used to support or validate racist world-views, based upon belief in the existence and significance of racial categories and a hierarchy of superior and inferior races.
In the United States, scientific racism justified Black African slavery to assuage moral opposition to the Atlantic slave trade. Alexander Thomas and Samuell Sillen described black men as uniquely fitted for bondage, because of their "primitive psychological organization".
Scientific racism played a role in establishing Apartheid in South Africa. In South Africa, white scientists, like Dudly Kidd, who published The essential Kafir in 1904, sought to "understand the African mind." They believed that the cultural differences between whites and blacks in South Africa might be caused by physiological differences in the brain. Rather than suggesting that Africans were "overgrown children," as early white explorers had, Kidd believed that Africans were "misgrown with a vengeance." He described Africans as at once "hopelessly deficient," yet "very shrewd."
Scientific racism continued through the early 20th century, and soon intelligence testing became a new source for racial comparisons. Before the Second World War (1939–45), scientific racism remained common to anthropology, leading to programs of eugenics, compulsory sterilization, anti-miscegenation laws, and immigration restrictions in Europe and the United States. The war crimes and crimes against humanity of Nazi Germany (1933–45), discredited scientific racism in academia — but racist legislation based upon it remained in some countries until the late 1960s.
Before the 1920s, social scientists agreed that whites were superior to blacks, but they needed a way to somehow ‘prove’ this in order to back social policy in favor of whites. They felt the best way to gauge this was through testing intelligence. By interpreting the tests to show favor to whites these test makers’ research results portrayed all minority groups very negatively.[8][63] This mentality went on for decades.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: you and Mike's melanin supremacist agenda is to deport the whites of Europe and America to Central Asia by force and kill them if necessary
Show me where I've once advocated rounding albinos up and shipping them off to any country.
If you can't and fail, as I know you undoubted will, then you have to get down on your knees before me, unbuckle my belt, take it off, and whip yourself repeatedly.
You, are such a shameless LIAR! You should be ashamed.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^ proponent of black scientific racism (BSR)
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^^ Proponent of misinformation & Lying(POM&L)
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb]you and Mike's melanin supremacist agenda is to deport the whites of Europe and America to Central Asia by force and kill them if necessary
Show me where I've once advocated rounding albinos up and shipping them off to any country.
Mike has the balls to say it you like to play innocent. You are a melanin supremacist. You think you are superior. You try to attribute indentity to people by disease. It's biological psuedo scientific racism and by your intent, is the equivalent of calling black people "nigger" And even though some black people like Mike like to use the word they don't like it applied by an outsider -and you are doing the same thing, trying to make people feel inferior by calling them something they don't want to be called. That is why you are evil, You are a propagandist trying to send out "inspirational" messages.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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JEWS
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1. I believe with perfect faith that God is the Creator and Ruler of all things. He alone has made, does make, and will make all things.
2. I believe with perfect faith that God is One. There is no unity that is in any way like His. He alone is our God He was, He is, and He will be.
3. I believe with perfect faith that God does not have a body. Physical concepts do not apply to Him. There is nothing whatsoever that resembles Him at all.
4. I believe with perfect faith that God is first and last.
5. I believe with perfect faith that it is only proper to pray to God. One may not pray to anyone or anything else.
6. I believe with perfect faith that all the words of the prophets are true.
7. I believe with perfect faith that the prophecy of Moses is absolutely true. He was the chief of all prophets, both before and after Him.
8. I believe with perfect faith that the entire Torah that we now have is that which was given to Moses.
9. I believe with perfect faith that this Torah will not be changed, and that there will never be another given by God.
10. I believe with perfect faith that God knows all of man's deeds and thoughts. It is thus written (Psalm 33:15), "He has moulded every heart together, He understands what each one does.”
11. I believe with perfect faith that God rewards those who keep His commandments, and punishes those who transgress Him.
12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. However long it takes, I will await His coming every day.
13. I believe with perfect faith that the dead will be brought back to life when God wills it to happen.”
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Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb]you and Mike's melanin supremacist agenda is to deport the whites of Europe and America to Central Asia by force and kill them if necessary
Show me where I've once advocated rounding albinos up and shipping them off to any country.
Mike has the balls to say it you like to play innocent. You are a melanin supremacist. You think you are superior
plus I'll have a black off with any of you
So you admit defeat. On your knees, shank.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
with a scissor in hand
mr. innocent reveals his true desire, to try to feel superior and make people get on their knees
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Good. I'll just call you, scissor lips. I knew they were thin, but DAMN!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ don't call it a come back
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^So can you say what it is the makes Europeans, Europeans?
So far no response.
If there is nothing unique about Europeans, then how can you declare other Whites/Albinos as being different?
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Obviously the zionists and Nazis hated each other and had completetly different general agendas, nevertheless the zionists who were basically secular nationalists negotiated with the Nazis to cooperate with them for a Jewish state in Israel. This seemed more preferable to them than to wait around in Germany to be sent into concentration camps. And some of the Nazis supported this because they thought is was a good way to get Jews out of Germany and purify the Aryan race. But later on Hitler and certian other Nazis didn't like the idea because while it would help rid Germany of Jews they might have to contend with a Jewish state later. Although now there are more jews in the U.S. than in Israel during WWII many of the European countries would not take in the larger numbers of Jewish refugees forced out by the Nazis. So zionist or not many of these Jews were virtually forced to migrate to Israel. The zionists liked this because they alawys wanted an independant state anyway instead of being a constant minority that could be harassed.
So he wanted Jews to emigrate and help them in this regard? I though Hitler always wanted to "exterminate" the Jews of Europe as hinted in his book? Story not adding up. lol
Anyway, Zionists collaborated with Nazis because both had same agendas for "their" respective peoples. They are two sides of the same coin (literally) both examples of extreme nationalism/separatism. Ironic how you are quick to lump Mike et al. with Nazis but try to explain away Zionism alliance with Hitler. You toilet bowl. lol
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
Jewish/Zionist firms made so much money off of Nazi Germany and WW-II, it's no joke.
It's well known that large banks such as Chase, Lehman, and Citi Bank did tons of business with Nazi Germany. Corporations like IBM, Ford, Voltswagon, BMW, and Volvo sold plenty of product to Nazi Germany and IBM even provided the systems to track Jews.
The Zionists started WW-II by embargoing Germany and driving the country to collapse and economic desperation. When Germany reacted to the economic terrorism being placed on the country the Zionists declared war with the objectives of; (1) Humiliating Germany (2) Gaining control of Israel (3) Gaining control of the United States
The Zionists willingly sacrificed a few Jews to achieve the above. When Hitler gave them a proposal to migrate all Jews out of Germany to a country of their choosing for $100/head, the heads of the Zionists movements refused and out right told them to kill them. Not only was WW-II a Jewish conspiracy, but following that they did it again with the Russia/US cold war, reaping trillions of dollars of profit over that 30-40 year period.
Many Jews stood trial and were found guilty during the Nuremberg trials. One of these Zionists was found guilty of having 1 million slaves which he leased to the Germans for providing cheap labor. For crimes ranging from mass murder to mass enslavement each one of these Nazi profiting Zionist Jews received an average of 7 years in prison with most being released after 5 years.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Obviously the zionists and Nazis hated each other and had completetly different general agendas, nevertheless the zionists who were basically secular nationalists negotiated with the Nazis to cooperate with them for a Jewish state in Israel. This seemed more preferable to them than to wait around in Germany to be sent into concentration camps. And some of the Nazis supported this because they thought is was a good way to get Jews out of Germany and purify the Aryan race. But later on Hitler and certian other Nazis didn't like the idea because while it would help rid Germany of Jews they might have to contend with a Jewish state later. Although now there are more jews in the U.S. than in Israel during WWII many of the European countries would not take in the larger numbers of Jewish refugees forced out by the Nazis. So zionist or not many of these Jews were virtually forced to migrate to Israel. The zionists liked this because they alawys wanted an independant state anyway instead of being a constant minority that could be harassed.
So he wanted Jews to emigrate and help them in this regard? I though Hitler always wanted to "exterminate" the Jews of Europe as hinted in his book? Story not adding up. lol
Anyway, Zionists collaborated with Nazis because both had same agendas for "their" respective peoples. They are two sides of the same coin (literally) both examples of extreme nationalism/separatism. Ironic how you are quick to lump Mike et al. with Nazis but try to explain away Zionism alliance with Hitler. You toilet bowl. lol
Idiot I just explained Hitler didn't like the plan although he let other Nazi officials try it out anyway for a while. . Other Nazis thought it was a good idea intitially . The Nazi goal to get the Jews out of Germany was an evolving project that changed over time. First they evicted them from their homes and into concentration camps. Right there it should tell you they hated them. They used some for slave labor in factories Right there it should tell you they hated them. They started with deportations and killing about a million in Eastern Europe by machine gun dumping the bodies in big trenches they forced the Jews to dig. Right there it should tell you they hated them. Hitler's speeches and Nazi propaganda, right there it should tell you that they viewed Jews as sub-human vermin, a pest to be exterminated. Read their own writings, it's clear they had zero sympathy for them. Some supported Jews migrating to Israel in order to rid Germany of Jews and purify the Aryan race. But as the war progressed the Nazis decided this wasn't going fast enough so they switched to a mass killing program, not surprising at all, the Germans as shown in their treatment of the Herero and Namaqua were already experienced in genocide.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
The Zionists started WW-II by embargoing Germany and driving the country to collapse and economic desperation.
this is garbage from sombody who sympathizes with nazis and wants to be one.
The precursor to the rise of Hitler was the The hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic was a three-year period of hyperinflation in Germany (the Weimar Republic) between June 1921 and January 1924 year before The Anti-Nazi Boycott of 1933 was a boycott of German products by foreign critics of the Nazi Party .
The hyperinflation episode in the Weimar Republic in the early 1920s was not the first hyperinflation, nor was it the first one in Europe, or even the most extreme inflation in history.
After WWI the Treaty of Versailles was imposed on Germany and demanded war reparations.
British economist John Maynard Keynes denounced the 1919 Treaty of Versailles as ruinous to German and global prosperity. In his book The Economic Consequences of the Peace.[32] Keynes said the Treaty was a "Carthaginian peace", a misguided attempt to destroy Germany on behalf of French revanchism, rather than to follow the fairer principles for a lasting peace set out in President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points, which Germany had accepted at the armistice. Keynes argued the sums being asked of Germany in reparations were many times more than it was possible for Germany to pay, and that these would produce drastic instability.[33] French economist Étienne Mantoux disputed that analysis in The Carthaginian Peace, or the Economic Consequences of Mr. Keynes (1946). More recently economists have argued that the restriction of Germany to a small army in the 1920s saved it so much money it could afford the reparations payments.[34]
In reality, the total German Reparation payments actually made Works far smaller than anyone expected. The total came to 20 billion German gold marks, worth about $5 billion US dollars or £1 billion British pounds. German reparations payments ended in 1931.[35]
The war and the treaty were followed by the Hyper-inflation of the early 1920s that wreaked havoc on Germany's social structure and political stability. During that inflation, the value of the nation's currency, the Papiermark, collapsed from 8.9 per US$1 in 1918 to 4.2 trillion per US$1 by November 1923. Prosperity reigned 1923–29, supported by large bank loans from New York.
The Great Depression struck Germany hard, starting in late 1929.There were no new American loans. Unemployment soared, especially in larger cities, fueling extremism and violence on the far right and far left, as the centre of the political spectrum weakened. Germany had paid about one-eighth of its war reparations when they were suspended in 1932 by the Lausanne Conference of 1932. The failure of major banks in Germany and Austria in 1931 worsened the worldwide banking crisis. Heinrich Brüning ( listen (help·info)) (26 November 1885 – 30 March 1970) was Chancellor of Germany during the Weimar Republic from 1930 to 1932. He was the longest continuously serving Chancellor of the Weimar Republic.
Shortly after Brüning took office he was confronted by an economic crisis caused by the Great Depression. Brüning responded with tightening of credit and a rollback of all wage and salary increases. These policies increased unemployment and made Brüning highly unpopular, losing him support in the Reichstag. The president, having a personal conflict as owner of a Junker estate, refused to sign any further emergency decrees. As a consequence Brüning announced his cabinet's resignation on 30 May 1932, "hundred metres before the finish"[citation needed], and was relieved of his office in an undignifiedly brief ceremony by Hindenburg. He firmly rejected all suggestions making the president's disloyal behaviour public because he considered such a move indecent, and still considered Hindenburg the "last bulwark" of the German people.
After his resignation, Brüning was invited by Ludwig Kaas to take over the leadership of the Centre Party, but the former chancellor declined and asked Kaas to stay. Brüning supported his party's determined opposition to his successor, Franz von Papen, and also of re-establishing a working parliament by cooperation with the National Socialists, negotiating with Gregor Strasser.
After Adolf Hitler became chancellor on 30 January 1933, Brüning vigorously campaigned against the new government in the March 1933 elections. Later that month, he was a main advocate for rejecting the Hitler administration's Enabling Act, calling it the "most monstrous resolution ever demanded of a parliament." Having received assurances from Hitler that the Center Party would not be banned he yielded to party discipline and voted in favour of the bill. With the Communist Party's deputies already banned from the Reichstag, only the Social Democrats voted against the law.
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The Anti-Nazi Boycott of 1933 was a boycott of German products by foreign critics of the Nazi Party in response to antisemitism in Nazi Germany following the rise of Adolf Hitler, commencing with his appointment as Chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933. Those in the United States, the United Kingdom and other places worldwide who opposed Hitler's policies developed the boycott and its accompanying protests to encourage Nazi Germany to end the regime's anti-Jewish practices.
Following Adolf Hitler's appointment as German Chancellor in January 1933, an organized campaign of violence was undertaken by Hitler's Nazi Party against the Jews of Germany. Jewish stores were picketed and shoppers at these stores were harassed. Protests by the Centralverein deutscher Staatsbürger jüdischen Glaubens (the Jewish communal organization) against these systematic tactics were ignored, with Hermann Göring stating that "I shall employ the police, and without mercy, wherever German people are hurt, but I refuse to turn the police into a guard for Jewish stores".
In a meeting held at the Hotel Knickerbocker on March 21 by the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America, former congressman William W. Cohen advocated in support of a strict boycott of German goods, stating that "Any Jew buying one penny's worth of merchandise made in Germany is a traitor to his people." The Jewish War Veterans planned a protest march in Manhattan from Cooper Square to New York City Hall, in which 20,000 would participate, including Jewish veterans in uniform, with no banners or placards allowed other than American and Jewish flags.[3]
A series of protest rallies were held on March 27, 1933, with the New York City rally held at Madison Square Garden with an overflow crowd of 55,000 inside and outside the arena and parallel events held in Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Philadelphia and 70 other locations, with the proceedings at the New York rally broadcast worldwide.
The Nazi apparatus denounced the American complaints as slanders generated by "Jews of German origin." Goebbels announced a campaign of "sharp countermeasures" against these attacks. He accused German Jewry of engineering a worldwide boycott of German goods to destroy the German economy. To give Jews a taste of their own medicine, Goebbels announced that the following Saturday, April first, all good Aryan Germans would boycott Jewish-owned businesses. If, after the one-day boycott, the false charges against the Nazis in the overseas press stopped, there would be no further boycott of Jewish businesses. If worldwide Jewish attacks on the Nazi regime continued, Goebbels warned, "the boycott will be resumed … until German Jewry has been annihilated."
The boycott came off as planned. German police and SS troops enforced store closings. Protestors smashed the windows of some Jewish-owned shops and department stores and forced others to close when Nazis set off stink bombs inside them.
Urged by Stephen S. Wise to protest to the German government, U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull issued a mild statement to the American ambassador to Berlin complaining that "unfortunate incidents have indeed occurred and the whole world joins in regretting them." He expressed his personal belief, however, that the reports of anti-Jewish violence were probably exaggerated. Unimpressed by Hull’s tepid response, the Jewish War Veterans renewed their call for a boycott of German goods. The AJCongress, the American League for Defense of Jewish Rights, the Jewish Labor Committee, B’nai B’rith and others joined them shortly thereafter.
Of course, the American boycott did nothing to deter the Nazis.
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The Anti-Nazi boycott of 1933 had little effect on the Nazis
Nazi Economics
Early in his political career, Adolf Hitler regarded economic issues as relatively unimportant. In 1922, Hitler proclaimed that "world history teaches us that no people has become great through its economy but that a people can very well perish thereby", and later concluded that "the economy is something of secondary importance".Hitler and the Nazis held a very strong idealist conception of history, which held that human events are guided by small numbers of exceptional individuals following a higher ideal. They believed that all economic concerns, being purely material, were unworthy of their consideration. Hitler went as far as to blame all previous Geerman governments since Bismarck of having "subjugated the nation to materialism" by relying more on peaceful economic development than on expansion through war.
Nevertheless the Nazis carried out pre war econmoic programs which recovered the econmomy and "made the trains run on time"
Nazis came to power in the midst of the Great Depression. When the Nazis came to power the most pressing issue was an unemployment rate of close to 30%. Before World War II, Hitler appointed Hjalmar Schacht, a former member of the German Democratic Party, as President of the Reichsbank in 1933 and Minister of Economics in 1934.
the Nazis replaced the Weimar trade unions with what many Germans saw as the new and improved unions called the German Labour Front and banned strikes, sacks and lockouts. They also directed Schacht to place more emphasis on military production and rearmament. A number of economists, starting with Michal Kalecki, have seen this as an example of military Keynesianism.
In June 1933, the "Reinhardt Program" for infrastructure development was introduced. It combined indirect incentives, such as tax reductions, with direct public investment in waterways, railroads and highways.[18] It was followed by similar initiatives resulting in great expansion of the German construction industry. Between 1933 and 1936, employment in construction rose from only 666,000 to over 2,000,000.[19]
Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[20]
In 1936, military spending in Germany exceeded 10% of GNP, higher than any other European country at the time, after years of limitations imposed by the Versailles Treaty. Military investment also exceeded civilian investment from 1936 onwards. As big business became increasingly organized, it developed an increasingly close partnership with the Nazi government. The government pursued economic policies that maximized the profits of its business allies, and, in exchange, business leaders supported the government's political and military goals.
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Hitler stabilized and revived the Germany economy a few years before WWII began
in 1939 Germany invaded Poland and then proceeded to attack other countires because Hitler had an expansionist program.
Had Hitler been more limited in his invasions or not have invaded other countries he may have lasted much longer. He had already recovered Germany from depression prior to the war. Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ I have as much sympathy for albino Nazis as I have have for your albino Zionist father. They are, after all, just two sides of the same coin.
How can you tell a Jew? When they can't win an argument, they react by screaming Anti-Semite or Nazi. The truth is, the closest thing to a Nazi today is a Zionist, as can be seen from their implementation of Apartheid in both South Africa and Israel.
On Feb 1, 1940 Henry Montor executive vice-President of the United Jewish Appeal refused to intervene for a shipload of Jewish refugees stranded on the Danube river, stating that "Palestine cannot be flooded with... old people or with undesirables." [Source]
Read "The Millions That Could Have Been Saved" by I.DombIt is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.
The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.
The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.
These treacherous Zionist leaders betrayed their own flesh and blood. Zionism was never an option for Jewish salvation. Quite the opposite, it was a formula for human beings to be used as pawns for the power trip of several desperadoes. A perfidy! A betrayal beyond description!
In 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved. The same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).
The British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.
On December 17, 1942 both houses of the British Parliament declared its readiness to find temporary refuge for endangered persons. The British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. This motion received within two weeks a total of 277 Parliamentary signatures. On Jan. 27, when the next steps were being pursued by over 100 M.P.'s and Lords, a spokesman for the Zionists announced that the Jews would oppose the motion because Palestine was omitted. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] ^ I have as much sympathy for albino Nazis as I have have for your albino Zionist father. They are, after all, just two sides of the same coin.
How can you tell a Jew? When they can't win an argument, they react by screaming Anti-Semite or Nazi. The truth is, the closest thing to a Nazi today is a Zionist, as can be seen from their implementation of Apartheid in both South Africa and Israel.
[b]On Feb 1, 1940 Henry Montor executive vice-President of the United Jewish Appeal refused to intervene for a shipload of Jewish refugees stranded on the Danube river, stating that "Palestine cannot be flooded with... old people or with undesirables." [Source]
Read "The Millions That Could Have Been Saved" by I.DombIt is
Zionism was never an option for Jewish salvation.
saved from what?
salvation from what?
tell me
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^ There never was such a thing as apartheid. Ok, so you had "toilets for whites only" but who cleaned them? Blacks. The whites during so called apartheid, also had Black slaves or as low paid workers on their properties.
The whole thing was absurd. Apartheid is wrongly portrayed as segregation, when Blacks were sleeping in, or just outside white peoples homes. Now what sane white father would want black men on their property at night while their daughter would be sleeping?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^^ you should come together with Narmertot, you both want racial separation, you're on the same page
maybe you could make a thread to discuss a plan for how to do it and he could chip in
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Hitler didn't like the plan although he let other Nazi officials try it out anyway for a while.
So Hitler the irrational Jew-hating dictator who wanted to exterminate the Jews from as early as 1923 let others (including the vermin Jews!) convince him of an immigration scheme that would 1. cost the German state money 2. see would permit the emigration of a million Jews (vermin to exterminate) leave with their wealth??? And you say the wild-eyed Jew-hating Nazis thought this was a good idea??? LOLOL
quote:The Nazi goal to get the Jews out of Germany
I thought it was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe.
quote:First they evicted them from their homes and into concentration camps.
Not unusual for those perceived as "enemies of the state" during times of war. Same for communists, gays, Jehovah's Witnesses etc The emigration program btw was on going even after outbreak of the war. So basically you're arguing that the Nazi program was two-fold: let millions of Jews leave with their wealth etc AND exterminate all the Jews at the same time??? HAHAHHAHAH
quote:They used some for slave labor in factories
Not unusual during times of war to put prisoners to work.
quote:killing about a million in Eastern Europe by machine gun dumping the bodies in big trenches they forced the Jews to dig.
Not unusual to kill partisans during time of war. These would be considered wars crimes today (so would deir Yessin, Vietnam, Gulf War, Afghan war etc etc) Horrors of war, not some extermination policy to kill all Jews of Europe.
quote:Hitler's speeches and Nazi propaganda, right there it should tell you that they viewed Jews as sub-human vermin, a pest to be exterminated.
Yet they would permit the emigration of a million Jewish vermin to leave with their wealth at the state's expense???? LOL!
quote:But as the war progressed the Nazis decided this wasn't going fast enough so they switched to a mass killing program
We are back to those mysterious homicidal gas chambers you have yet to prove troll. And again your theory is that they wanted to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and help them migrate with their wealth at their expense all at the same time. LOL!
quote: the Germans as shown in their treatment of the Herero and Namaqua were already experienced in genocide.
Yes, they commit genocide, never denied this, just like the Zionists. [The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ian Pappe] Two sides of same coin remember?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ You hypocrite. Aren't Jews due to their religion & supposed race, separate? Actually, according to Jewish doctrine, they are separate from the US even when they reside there. Even in Germany, they never considered themselves Germans. Isn't that a fact?
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:you both want racial separation, you're on the same page
Except i'm not a hypocrite. Narmerthoth claims he has sex or flirts with white women, further his photobucket has pictures of naked blondes on it. Yet on this forum he's claiming whites are "defective albinos". Basically he's got two conflicting personalities. That's precisely why no one takes his albino nonsense serious.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^^ As I already said: if white have "defective" or "unnatural albinoid" traits, why are those traits universally admired in beauty? And don't deny it Narmerthoth. You are the one with naked blondes all over your photobucket.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB]
quote:Hitler didn't like the plan although he let other Nazi officials try it out anyway for a while.
So Hitler the irrational Jew-hating dictator who wanted to exterminate the Jews from as early as 1923 let others (including the vermin Jews!) convince him of an immigration scheme that would 1. cost the German state money 2. see tens of thousands of Jews (vermin to exterminate) leave with their wealth??? And you say the wild-eyed Jew-hating Nazis thought this was a good idea??? LOLOL
quote:The Nazi goal to get the Jews out of Germany
I thought it was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe.
I told you you thick piece of shyt, the goal was to get the Jews out of Germany. One of the ways of doing this was to kill them. To them there was no difference For example, outside of German they killed 1,000,000 people by shooting including women and children with special death squads. Almost all civilians, beginning with the Polish intelligentsia, and swiftly progressed to killing Jews, Gypsies and others throughout Eastern Europe.
And you who said Trayvon Martin got what he desrved think that whatever excuse the Nazis gave for killing these people it was justifed, you brainless stooge
After the invasion of Poland mission of the Einsatzgruppen killing squad was the forceful depoliticization of the Polish people and the elimination of the groups most clearly identified with the Polish national identity. As stated by Hitler in his Armenian quote, units were sent:
"...with orders for them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish race and language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need."
"Whatever we find in the shape of an upper class in Poland will be liquidated," Hitler had declared.
As the German invasion began, a vast series of bloody pogroms broke out, some of which were encouraged by the Germans, and all of which were the spontaneous outbreaks of local anti-Semitism.Within the first few weeks of Operation Barbarossa, 40 pogroms had broken out with about 10,000 Jews killed by local people.
The Canadian historian Erich Haberer has contended that the “Baltic flashpoint of genocide”, as the killings committed by Einsatzgruppe A between July–October 1941 are known to historians, were the key development in the evolution of Nazi anti-Semitic policy that resulted in the Holocaust. The Baltic area witnessed both the most extensive and intense killings of all the Einsatzgruppen with 90,000–100,000 Jews killed between July and October 1941, which led to the almost total decimation of the Jewish communities in that area.[56] Haberer maintains that the “Baltic flashpoint of genocide” occurred at time when the other Nazi plans for a “territorial final solution” such as the Madagascar Plan were unlikely to occur, and thus suggested to the Nazi leadership that genocide was indeed “feasible” as a “final solution to the Jewish Question”
“And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews” -Adolph Hitler speaking to a crowd at the Sports Palace in Berlin, 30 January 1942.
"As soon as this breakthrough was made, the Fuhrer would offer the Arab world his personal assurance that the hour of liberation had struck. Thereafter, Germany's only remaining objective in the region would be limited to the annihilation of the Jews living under British protection in Arab lands." - Excerpts from the meeting between Adolf Hitler and the Mufti, Haj Amin Husseini, on 28 November 1941. meeting between Adolf Hitler and the MuftiThe notes were taken by Dr. Paul Otto Schmidt
"We have - I would say, as very consistent National Socialists, taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection, by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness." - Speech by Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler at Kharkow, April 1943.
"We are obliged to depopulate"-said Miner to Rauschning- "as part of our mission of preserving the German population. We shall have to develop a technique of depopulation. If you ask me what I mean by depopulation, I mean the removal of entire racial units. And that is what I intend to carry out- that, roughly, is my task. Nature is cruel, therefore, we, too, must be cruel. If I can send the flower of the German nation into the hell of war without the smallest pity for the spilling of precious German blood, then surely I have the right to remove millions of an inferior race that breeds like vermin" (Document Number USSR-378).
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:the goal was to get the Jews out of Germany. One of the ways of doing this was to kill them.
So again, according to your [evolving it seems] theory, the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and at the same time devise a scheme to permit millions to leave with their wealth at the Nazi state's expense! LMAO!!!
So the Madagascar Plan was suppose to be about extermination (not emigration) of all the Jews yet the Transfer agreement was still going on at this time where Nazis helped Jews to build a homeland in Palestine. LOLOLOLOL
And while I try to make sense of that theory could you please quote where Hitler said he put a stop to the Haavara agreement because he would have to "confront a Jewish state later".
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:you both want racial separation, you're on the same page
Except i'm not a hypocrite. Narmerthoth claims he has sex or flirts with white women, further his photobucket has pictures of naked blondes on it. Yet on this forum he's claiming whites are "defective albinos". Basically he's got two conflicting personalities. That's precisely why no one takes his albino nonsense serious.
Liar, I never said I had sex or flirted with white women. You and Lionese are compulsive liars. Stop lying about my Photobucket. There are no sex pictures of albino women on that page either. You should be ashamed how you lie so terribly.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
Are you going to answer the question Lioness? Where did Hitler say he put a stop to the Transfer agreement because he would have to contend with Jewish state?
And based on your recent edits are you saying he planned to exterminate Jews in 1942? I though he mention vermin to be exterminated in Mien Kamf, thats 1923. Are you saying he didnt plan to exterminate them when he was putting them in camps?
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:the goal was to get the Jews out of Germany. One of the ways of doing this was to kill them.
So again, according to your [evolving it seems] theory, the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and at the same time devise a scheme to permit millions to leave with their wealth at the Nazi state's expense! LMAO!!!
So the Madagascar Plan was suppose to be about extermination (not emigration) of all the Jews yet the Transfer agreement was still going on at this time where Nazis helped Jews to build a homeland in Palestine. LOLOLOLOL
And while I try to make sense of that theory could you please quote where Hitler said he put a stop to the Haavara agreement because he would have to "confront a Jewish state later".
Hitler and the German people wanted to get the Ashkenazi Jews out of Germany because the Jews were sabotaging the country. They placed an economic embargo on the country and drove inflation so high that many Germans starved to death. As I said earlier, German Jews were like US Jews. They never believed that they were Germans or Americans. They believe they are above all that, and that they are separate from the rest of man0kind.
Lionese is full of shet. Hitler never planned to exterminate the Jews. His plan was to eliminate them from Germany. It was the Zionist who repeatedly pushed for him to exterminate. That was the way for them to gain international sympathy and ultimately, Israel.
It's strange how Nazi Germany weaponry was far more advanced than the allies. What's even stranger is that Zionist scientists are the ones who invented these weapons for Germany, as well as the Nazi Eugenics program, propaganda, and counterfeit money.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB]
quote:the goal was to get the Jews out of Germany. One of the ways of doing this was to kill them.
So again, according to your [evolving it seems] theory, the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and at the same time devise a scheme to permit millions to leave with their wealth at the Nazi state's expense! LMAO!!!
thick moron I did not make a comprehensive statement " the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe"
They had various approaches to what they called the Jewish problem. Different Nazi officals had different opinions and what to do. I told your jackass, it was an evolving policy.
They were improvising as they went along-learn fool Some were content on deportation others mass shooting and eventually gassing. In the later stages they settled on mass murder as the most practical solution. They may have been doing some deporting at the same time, whatever was most practical while in a wartime situation. They had no problem with mass killings including woman and children. They did it to Jews, Romanis, handicapped, homosexuals, and others.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL, a Zionist bank supplied the cash, and a Zionist supplier supplied the so-called Gas for the chambers. I suppose the Zionist convinced themselves if they didn't bank-roll and supply Hitler with raw material for his chambers, Tanks, and weapons, someone else would, right? LOL, a certain Zionist also cornered the market on cloth so that Hitler had to come to his company to purchase cloth to make the Nazi uniforms. Life was truly hard for Zionists in Nazi Germany.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:thick moron I did not make a comprehensive statement " the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe"
That is the holocaust narrative you jackass! LOL If you are defending the narrative at least try to understand what it is alleging. Hitler and the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and Hitler wrote about this in his 1923 book and planned to bring it about if he came to power. But how does this ad up with the Transfer Agreement? Which is why your site Nizkor has to deny the Zionist collaboration with the Nazis since that is at complete odds with such a policy. Go look on the site dumbo he denies there was such a collaboration.
So again no answer to my question. Typical troll. lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:thick moron I did not make a comprehensive statement " the plan was to exterminate all the Jews of Europe"
That is the holocaust narrative you jackass! LOL If you are defending the narrative at least try to understand what it is alleging. Hitler and the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews of Europe and Hitler wrote about this in his 1923 book and planned to bring it about if he came to power. But how does this ad up with the Transfer Agreement? Which is why your site Nizkor has to deny the Zionist collaboration with the Nazis since that is at complete odds with such a policy. Go look on the site dumbo he denies there was such a collaboration.
So again no answer to my question. Typical troll. lol
what you call a narrative is a simplification you use as a straw man. I am not a representative of the Nizkor site. I keep trying to tell your stupid ass> The Nazis had different officials who had different ideas about how to rid Germany of Jews and Romani and other undesirables. Your front is exposed when you insist I have to articulate "the narrative"
Some Nazis thought deportation would suffice. Others murder. And they also did the mass shootings outside of Germany which you think were justified.
Some of the soldiers doing the mass shootings had some mental problems due to carrying out this method. Another problem is that to do mass shooting inside Germany could have had political complications. They needed a more discreet method that was easier to conceal, including to the average German who may have been aniti-semitic but not to the extent of stomaching overt mass murder. It took them a while to figure out the gassing and how to trick the victims to cooperate and think they were getting deloused, use overns for disposal and build these facilities.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:what you call a narrative is a simplification you use as a straw man.
No dummy, thats what the story ssays, unless you are going to come with another version: Hitler never really wanted to exterminate the Jews of Europe as stated in his 1923 book, only "some".
quote:I am not a representative of the Nizkor site.
So after all your spamming now you throw Nizkor under the bus! LOL!
quote:The Nazis had different officials who had different ideas about how to rid Germany of Jews
What you are arguing here doofus is that some officials wanted to kill (exterminate) the Jews of Europe, while others wanted to help them locate to Palestine, at the state's expense, others just wanted deportation. That makes no fuking sense. No government can operate with such haphazard, confusing and contradictory policies, not the least a government that was supposed to be totalitarian and super-efficient, you birdbrain. There was no "evolving" Nazi plan of annihilation, only evolving holocaust narrative to explain the contradictions.
quote: It took them a while to figure out the gassing
"Auschwitz was a terrible place -- but it was not an extermination camp."
Gitta Sereny in an interview with The Times, London, Aug. 29, 2001.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Hey, did you ask the question at your local klan meeting, at the US klan headquarters located down the street from your apartment?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Hey, did you ask the question at your local klan meeting, at the US klan headquarters located down the street from your apartment?
she can't help it if she was born in their vicinity
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Who asked you. How are you an expert on what Doxie can help or not? Perhaps she moved there specifically to be near the Klan HQ. Your guess is as good as mine, perhaps less, so STFU!
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
While some Nazi officials were trying to exterminate Jews (a costly venture in itself), others were busy helping them to emigrate to Palestine at the state's expense, while others just wanted to deport them. In other words, at the same time concentration camps were being set up (for an extermination program) efforts were made to help Jews emigrate to Palestine. And this haphazard, confusing approach is an example of an efficient, totalitarian state in action.
LOL!!!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
While some Nazi officials were trying to exterminate Jews (a costly venture in itself), others were busy helping them to emigrate to Palestine at the state's expense, while others just wanted to deport them. In other words, at the same time concentration camps were being set up (for an extermination program) efforts were made to help Jews emigrate to Palestine. And this haphazard, confusing approach is an example of an efficient, totalitarian state in action.
LOL!!!
the zionists and Nazis had a common goal, that Jews should move to Israel. So what?
1931-1939: Nazism and anti-Semitism cause immigration to Palestine increase significantly (immigration 10's of thousands per year)
1939-1945: Immigration to Palestine slows down because of WWII (immigration few thousands per year at most)
1946-1948: After Holocaust and Nazism are over, immigration to Palestine increases significantly (immigration about 75,000 per year).
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There were millions of Jews in Germany during WW2
The Nazis, supported Jews migrating to Israel in order to purify the "Aryan race" not because they wanted to help Jews. Anybody with a brain can tell they hated Jews from their writings and helping them was only a byproduct of wanting to get them out of Europe, to them a necessary evil. As your link points out Hitler was skeptical but still supported it. Do you have quotes of Hitler saying that he supported Israel because he wanted the Jews to have their own nation for the sake of having their own nation an intent to help Jews? That is what you keep trying to imply and it is stupid. That is your retard narrative.
Obviously and you must agree the Nazis did not support the plan to the extent that this is how they dealt with most of the Jews by far. And the Nazis were not geniuses in everything they did, They made mistakes in relation to their goals and they changed policies as the war progressed.
They already had shot many more in Eastern Europe outside of Germany, men women and children then they had ever helped to migrate to Israel. And they were to murder several times that amount.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Narmer is the one with naked white women all over his photobucket while he claims he flirts with them in real life. His life is white people. He's a self-hating black obsessed with white women.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Narmer is the one with naked white women all over his photobucket while he claims he flirts with them in real life. His life is white people. He's a self-hating black obsessed with white women.
You are a closet gay boi, are you not?
Thin weak pink penis no girl, Muurish or Pink wants you...
But there is always the toy gay dolls for you...
,
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers:
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Narmer, Lioness is correct, only difference between you and a Nazi is the Nazis only wanted Jews out of Germany & Europe, while you want Whites GONE, no more, extinct, gone bye bye, eradicated from the planet. You have even said that Whites should be forced to mix with non-Whites & those who refuse should be herded up and "contained" & don't deny you said such Narmer.
Narmer is the one with naked white women all over his photobucket while he claims he flirts with them in real life. His life is white people. He's a self-hating black obsessed with white women.
^^^ do you have a link?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^That's just Cass projecting; Blacks intimidate him, so this is how he gets back at us.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:the zionists and Nazis had a common goal, that Jews should move to Israel. So what?
If the holocau$t is supposed to be the planned extermination of the Jewish race by the Nazis, already conceptualized in Hitler's 1923 book (Jews vermin to be "exterminated") why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?. At the same time they are building "extermination camps" to wipe out the Jewish race (according to the story) they are helping Jews immigrate to Palestine?
quote:Nazis were not geniuses in everything they did,
Its not about being a genius you retard its about expecting rational people to believe that a totalitarian efficient government was supposed to be perusing two completely contradictory goals at the same time. It would have been totally impractical and costly. The truth is there was no plan to "exterminate the Jewish race". The deportations to camps (not all Jews btw) and killings on the eastern front was as a result of the war (brought to Germany by Inter Jewry) not as a result of some "extermination policy". The gassing story of course is totally false. Yet another "holocau$t historian" says
"Bungling, exaggerations, omissions and lies are the signpost of most reports of that époque ... It is inevitable that new documents will come to light which will shatter more and more the official Au-schwitz story. The present, seemingly triumphant portrayal of the universe of concentration camps (Auschwitz), is destined to be doomed. What can be saved of it? Very little!" - Jean-Claude Pressac
quote:Do you have quotes of Hitler saying that he supported Israel because he wanted the Jews to have their own nation for the sake of having their own nation an intent to help Jews?
This is to hide your inability to back up your shyt isnt it? LOL! You dumb trolling jackass there was no "Israel" and the Haavara agreement wasn't about building a "state of Israel".
Where is that Hitler quote I asked for?????? Still no reply!
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
[QUOTE]
I answered this question asshole, what is your answer to it?
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
You didn't, Where did Hitler say he put a stop to the Transfer agreement because he would have to contend with Jewish state?
It's still there waiting...
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: You didn't, Where did Hitler say he put a stop to the Transfer agreement because he would have to contend with Jewish state?
It's still there waiting...
He was skeptical about it. That is what your link said. I had read something to that effect before, that some Nazis were skeptical about the plan because they did not like the idea of a Jewish nation. I never said I had a Hitler quote shythead. Nevertheless your link agrees that he was skeptical about the plan but eventually enodrsed it. Why he was skeptical is a minor issue anyway. It doesn't matter. -or are yu trying to imply he wanted a Jewish nation for it's own sake because he liked the idea of Jewsish nationhood for what Nazi officals and filmakers called "vermin" ?
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
I have have addressed your question, do you now have the balls to answer your own question quoted above? If you can't there is no need for me to post further to entertain cowards
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
[QUOTE]
I answered this question asshole, what is your answer to it?
I already answered it, the Nazis did not have a policy of extermination and immigration at the same time. We have evidence, documentation for the latter where's the same for the former? The "functionalist" perspective that you spout only came about as a result of lack of evidence: "A lack of hard evidence for an extermination order by Hitler has contributed to a controversy that divides Holocaust historians into "intentionalists" and "functionalists." The former contend that there was a premeditated extermination policy ordered by Hitler, while the latter hold that Germany's wartime "final solution" Jewish policy evolved at lower levels in response to circumstances."
As expected the two "schools" totally contradict each other and your "extermination quotes" are out of context. ["The Lack of Documents on Jewish Annihilation Policy and Its Consequences for the Orthodox Historians", Link
History is about evidence not inventing as you go along to fit some fable. This is why you and Mike love each other so much. Two sides of the same crackpot coin. lol
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as a base for international Communism. /24 Reflecting something of a shift in official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing.
"The proclamation of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East." Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."/27 In January 1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry."
Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on several occasions during 1937.
Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks.
The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
I answered this question asshole, what is your answer to it?
I already answered it, the Nazis did not have a policy of extermination and immigration at the same time. We have evidence, documentation for the latter where's the same for the former? The "functionalist" perspective that you spout only came about as a result of lack of evidence: "A lack of hard evidence for an extermination order by Hitler has contributed to a controversy that divides Holocaust historians into "intentionalists" and "functionalists." The former contend that there was a premeditated extermination policy ordered by Hitler, while the latter hold that Germany's wartime "final solution" Jewish policy evolved at lower levels in response to circumstances."
As expected the two "schools" totally contradict each other and your "extermination quotes" are out of context. ["The Lack of Documents on Jewish Annihilation Policy and Its Consequences for the Orthodox Historians", Link
History is about evidence not inventing as you go along to fit some fable. This is why you and Mike love each other so much. Two sides of the same crackpot coin. lol
I addressed your question and you still haven't answered this question. And it''s not even my question it's your question:
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
you say their motive was not extermination so what was it? why did they collaborate with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine?
you still have not grown a testicle
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:I never said I had a Hitler quote shythead.
LOL!!! You made statement "Hitler and certian other Nazis didn't like the idea because while it would help rid Germany of Jews they might have to contend with a Jewish state later" and when asked to back it up you stall for a day only to comeback with this shyt "I never said I had a Hitler quote shythead" LOLOL!!!
Bitch you have no/zero/nadda evidence for any of the shyt you say.
quote:or are yu trying to imply he wanted a Jewish nation
Settlement. Doofus, whether he "wanted it" or did it out of expedience doesn't matter. Did Nixon "want" to send billions of aid etc to the Jews even though he was anti-Jewish?
quote: A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest…A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in Palestine under some form of Jewish control.
As I said, the Haavra agreement wasn't about the creation of a state of Israel and this is why Hitler supported it, doofus. Extermination narrative in trouble.
quote:you still haven't answered this question. you say their motive was not extermination so what was it? why did they collaborate with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine?
Asking the same question over, pretending it wasn't answered, is your MO troll. lol
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
You read the link I posted yesterday explaining why Nazis collaborated with the Zionists to help the Jews immigrate to Palestine only to ask why did they collaborate with Zionists to help Jews immigrate to Palestine. A typical lioness production, priceless. LOL!
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] You read the link I posted yesterday explaining why Nazis collaborated with the Zionists to help the Jews immigrate to Palestine only to ask why did they collaborate with Zionists to help Jews immigrate to Palestine. A typical lioness production, priceless. LOL!
quote:Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing: why are they collaborating with Zionists to help Jews emigrate to Palestine with their wealth at their expense?.
if you already knew the answer as per your link but were afraid to articulate it in your own words why were you asking me? Are you only able to be a parrot?
Some of what your source says is fact, some of it opinion Let's look at your source, author Mark Weber,
Mark Weber Institute for Historical Review (IHR) Since 1995, the director of the IHR has been Mark Weber,who previously worked with the white supremacist National Alliance. He served as the editor of the group's magazine, the National Vanguard. Throughout the 80s Weber functioned as the treasurer of the National Alliance's Cosmotheist Church. The IHR was founded in 1978 by David McCalden (also known as Lewis Brandon), a former member of the British National Front, and Willis Carto, the head of the now-defunct Liberty Lobby.
LEADING HOLOCAUST DENIER ADMITS HOLOCAUST HAPPENED
Truth is always true, is always new and alive, and it endures. Lies do not endure. Lying ideologies die, though they may like zombies keep moving jerkily about and so give the impression of being alive. In an article posted this past January at the website of the Institute for Historical Review, the leading Holocaust-denial organization, Mark Weber, its director and for decades the editor of its publication, The Journal of Historical Review, announced his abandonment of Holocaust revisionism. The real motive of the Holocaust denial enterprise, he writes, has always been to weaken and delegitimize the “Jewish-Zionist power.” But it no longer helps in that purpose, for three reasons.
The first reason that Holocaust denial no longer serves the purpose of fighting Jewish power is that it is largely untrue. To demonstrate this, Weber quotes amazing passages from Joseph Goebbels’s 1942 journals, which I doubt have ever appeared before in a Holocaust denial publication, detailing the removal and mass murder of Eastern European Jews. For instance:
March 27, 1942: “The Jews are now being deported to the East from the Generalgouvernement [Poland], starting around Lublin. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely, and there’s not much left of the Jews. By and large, one can say that 60 percent of them will have to be liquidated, while only 40 percent can be put to work. The former Gauleiter of Vienna, who is carrying out the operation, is proceeding quite judiciously, using a method that is not all too conspicuous. The Jews are facing a judgment which, while barbaric, they fully deserve. The prophecy the Führer made about them for having brought on a new world war is beginning to come true in the most terrible manner. One must not be sentimental in these matters.” April 29, 1942: “Short shrift is being made of the Jews in all eastern occupied territories. Tens of thousands of them are being wiped out.”
Weber continues: No informed person disputes that Europe’s Jews did, in fact, suffer a great catastrophe during the Second World War. Millions were forced from their homes and deported to brutal internment in crowded ghettos and camps. Jewish communities across Central and Eastern Europe, large and small, were wiped out. Millions lost their lives. When the war ended in 1945, most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries were gone. Given all this, it should not be surprising that even well-founded revisionist arguments are often dismissed as heartless quibbling.
Question: Did Weber just learn of the Goebbels journals? Or has he known about them for years, and continued publishing Holocaust revisionist writings despite knowing they were false? The second reason that Holocaust denial no longer helps advance the campaign against the “Jewish-Zionist power,” just alluded to, is that, because of its evident untruth, it discredits and distracts from that campaign.
What drove the Holocaust denial enterprise, Weber tells us, was the hope that “exposing the Holocaust as a hoax [would] deliver a shattering blow to Israel and Jewish-Zionist power.” But, he continues, not only is the Holocaust not a hoax, but Jewish power is not based on just the Holocaust. Jewish power was already established in America prior to World War II. Therefore exposing the Holocaust as a hoax (which he admits can’t be done, but, he says in a thought experiment, even if it could be done) will not change anything essential as far as entrenched Jewish power is concerned and the need to destroy it.
Also, the Holocaust did not became a major theme in our culture until the late 1970s and 1980s, and now the world has moved on and the Holocaust is less culturally relevant than it used to be.
He states sadly that over the last ten years interest in Holocaust revisionism and Holocaust revisionist literature has “steadily declined.” At the same time, he cheerfully points out, there has been a rise in opposition to the “Jewish-Zionist power.”
In these admissions, the sheer ugliness of the Holocaust denial movement comes to the fore. It consisted of saying that the Holocaust was a cosmic lie, and that the Jews had bamboozled the entire world into believing this cosmic lie, the greatest hoax in history, all in order to gain power over non-Jews. What kind of people would do such a monstrous thing? The kind of people who deserved the very punishment that Hitler supposedly did not deliver to them.
It becomes clear that the main purpose of Holocaust denial was to make people hate Jews and see them as uniquely evil. It was thus the greatest anti-Semitic enterprise since World War II, replacing the Nazi ideology in that regard. But now it turns out, as admitted by a person who has been at the center of the denial project for the last 20 or 30 years, that the Holocaust did happen, and the Nazis did aim at, and largely carried out, the project of dispossessing and murdering, either immediately in death camps or a bit slower by slave labor in subhuman conditions, all the Jews of Europe, just as the “Holohoaxers” have always said. Will Weber apologize for having called the Holocaust a lie for all these years and thus provoking so much hatred against Jews? No. Because the production of Jew hatred is still his purpose. Shattering Israel and the Jewish power is still his mission. But now he intends to advance it by other means than Holocaust denial.
Finally, as mentioned above, Holocaust denial is no longer necessary in carrying out the war against the Jews, because, Weber says, anti-Semitism and anti-Israelism have been increasing worldwide. The real enemy is the Jewish-Zionist power, “a palpable reality with harmful consequences for America, the Middle East, and the entire global community.” The world is catching on to how bad the Jews are. As a result, a direct attack can now be made on the Jews themselves, rather than the indirect attack through Holocaust denial.
By the way: the global community? Since when are right-wing, tribalist anti-Semites concerned about the global community? When you’re driven by hatred for an enemy rather than by belief in truth, you pick up whatever you think will work for you. For 30 years Weber thought Holocaust denial would work for him, now he’s thinks that other things, like liberal-sounding appeals to the “global community” that is supposedly being oppressed by the Jews, will do the Jew-hating job better.
Weber then quotes an “influential statesman” who “seems to understand” the threat that the Jewish-Zionist power poses to the “global community.” And who is this esteemed authority? None other than the loony-tunes former prime minister of Malaysia, Mahathir Mohamad, who made a big splash in October 2003 with an extended anti-Jewish diatribe at the Organization of Islamic Conference. Thus Weber, prominent “historian” and anti-Jewish thinker, goes to a follower of the 1,400 year old Jew-exterminationist religion of Islam—the religion that portrays Jews as the relentless, subhuman enemies of everything decent in the world—as his top authority on the nature of the Jews.
In brief, Weber’s abandonment of his life-long project of Holocaust denial comes down to this zombie-like statement:
“The anti-Semitic enterprise of Holocaust denial is dead. Long live anti-Semitism!”
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
^ LOL Lioness production is easy to predict.
quote:some of it opinion
Which part? And how does this negate the fact that Nazis were helping Jews to emigrate at the same time they were supposed to have been trying to wipe out the Jewish race? All your posts and spam and you have yet to leave the starting blocks retard. LOL!
quote:Let's look at your source, author Mark Weber
Well, yes, because you have yet to bring documentary evidence of a Nazi plan to wipe out the Jewish race by gassing etc. So let's do that.
Weber is talking about the mass murder of Eastern European Jews during a war (which no revisionist denies) and why people find it hard to sympathise with revisionism. Its nothing new however it just takes comprehension skills to understand what is actually being said:
Paul Rauber writes that:
"The question [of whether the IHR denies the Holocaust] appears to turn on IHR's Humpty-Dumpty word game with the word Holocaust. According to Mark Weber, associate editor of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review [now Director of the IHR], "If by the 'Holocaust' you mean the political persecution of Jews, some scattered killings, if you mean a cruel thing that happened, no one denies that. But if one says that the 'Holocaust' means the systematic extermination of six to eight million Jews in concentration camps, that's what we think there's not evidence for." That is, IHR doesn't deny that the Holocaust happened; they just deny that the word 'Holocaust' means what people customarily use it for.
Still no documentary evidence for the holocau$t (plan to exterminate the Jewish race via gassing etc) and you have yet to leave the starting blocks.
You have shyt for brains troll.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
your definition of troll is somebody who doesn't agree with you. Yet the actual definition is somebody who mainly makes short comments either cheerleading or insulting but not contributing any information in an Egyptology forum except tainted info on the topic holocaust denial. You are a propagandist for white supremacist neo Nazis. If somebody was reading your comments they would think Nazis like the Jews and were helping them to build their own nation because they liked the idea of Jewish nationhood. Still the coward you cannot articulate why they supported zionism because you want to conceal their motives. If you were to attempt to be honest and articulate why in your own words the first thing you would do is go to that white supremacist written essay and look closer at what they said to check the proper propaganda appraoch. And there they didn't even go into that much depth on motives. Instead grow a ball, don't read it again and see if you are man enough in your own words to say why.
You think Hitler was justified in invading Poland and you buy the false flag Gleiwitz propaganda because you are a Nazi wannabe. So instead of taking prisoners they machine gunned a million men women and children. And why even imprison these people, were they soldiers?
The Einsatzgruppen carried out operations ranging from the murder of a few people to operations which lasted over two or more days, such as the massacres at Babi Yar (33,771 killed in two days) and Rumbula (25,000 killed in two days). The Einsatzgruppen were responsible for the murders of over 1,000,000 people, and they were the first Nazi organizations to commence mass killing of Jews as an organized policy. The Einsatzgruppen were founded in the summer of 1938, when Germany was preparing an invasion of Czechoslovakia, scheduled for October 1. The Einsatzgruppen were to travel in the wake of the German armies as they advanced into Czechoslovakia, and secure government papers and offices. Unlike the early Einsatzkommando, the Einsatzgruppen were to be armed and authorized to freely use lethal force to accomplish their mission. The Munich Agreement of 1938 prevented the war for which the Einsatzgruppen were originally founded, but as the Germans occupied the Sudetenland in the fall of 1938, the Einsatzgruppen moved into the region to occupy offices formerly belonging to the Czechoslovak state.
Th German occupation of Czechoslovakia, is this another invasion you considered justified.
When they invaded these countries and lined up and shot men women in children and dumped their bodies in trenches do you even mention this?
You call them "partisans" and justify mass murder because it was "war". They are the enemy so it was justified. Just kill any civillian you want some might be "partisans" (people who didn't like getting invaded or Polish intelligensia who might write something in protest)
It was mass murder and Hitler started wars and invasions of numerous countries. Were these people soldiers he was dumping in ditches? Were these some Poles who had anti-German organizations talking about invading Germany? No they were ordinary civilians, most Jews.
So after a million people are lined up and murdered by death squads you won't mention it. You purposely leave that out because you don't want to mention Nazi motives and intent. You want people to not notice this million murders and think the Nazis just wanted to help the Jews form what would become their own nation because they were nice. You are an asshole. And you purposely leave out things like a million murders. You are a white washer trying to hide motive.
Most Jews in Germany had been residents of Germany for a long time and did not want to emigrate to Palestine. But they were dragged out of their homes, beaten killed, shop windows smashed and put into ghettoes and concentration camps, men women and kids. I ask you why did they do this? You won't answer because you are promoting the idea that they just wanted to help.
A minority were zionists and they wanted to migrate to Palestine to form their own nation where they could lead a country and not be subject to pogroms and various outbreaks of anti semitism that occurred in Europe. Naturally the zionists thought Nazis were a prime example of why Jews should leave Europe.
1931-1939: Nazism and anti-Semitism cause immigration to Palestine increase significantly (immigration 10's of thousands per year)
1939-1945: Immigration to Palestine slows down because of WWII (immigration few thousands per year at most)
1946-1948: After Holocaust and Nazism are over, immigration to Palestine increases significantly (immigration about 75,000 per year).
So during wartime this Palestine project where Nazis and zionist collaborated on getting Jews out of Germany amounted to little in terms of getting Jews out of Germany, small numbers. The immigration actually slowed down then despite these agreements - "Jewish Problem" not solved. It was an easier "solution" because people that wnated to migarte to Israel wanted to go- no potential resistance But most Jews did not want to leave Germany but by they time they realized how dangerous it was to stay it was too late.
Your attempt at Nazi wannabe propaganda is to suggest that it would be impossible for the Nazis to support Jewish emigration to Palestine and also devise extermination programs. But it was possible and it did happen, both things. You want to simplify because that is your narrative strategy.
You never mention this one million men women and kids that were shot in Eastern Europe. But that shows intent. They had no problem with invading various countries and committing mass murders of civilians. Your theory is that if an army invades a country and kills a million civilians it's not a mass murder of civilians the civilians are "partisans" and you are an asshole. And were they even the most powerful people in Poland? No
Helping Jews to emigrate to Palestine was an easy method to get Jews out of Germany. But most Jews had settled in Germany and did not want to migrate to Israel. If only they did it would have solved their "Jewish problem".
The Nazis coould have just lined up everybody in the streets of Germany and shot all the Jews. But there could be big problems with that. Countries that were on the fence about Germany would have seen that as pure savagery. German civilians and rank and file soldiers though many might have been anti-semitic but they might not have been able to stomach that and some might have protested something that brutal. They alreasy had some mental problems in German soldiers who exected people over ditches with machine guns. Not everybody's cut out for that.
So the Nazis came up with the discreet gassing plan, trains leading to the camps, disposal ovens and the trick that people were getting deloused, building these facilities. And the plan worked pretty well. The world and the average German couldn't easily see what was going on, the Jewish problem getting "solved"
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
A mixture of your ramblings (i.e. inability to prove your case) and your usual cut and paste job. Next time separate your ramblings from the cut and paste and for god sake source your spam troll.
quote:want to conceal their motives.
What were their motives other than depopulating Germany of those Jews who wanted to leave?
quote: Einsatzgruppen
Again, predictably, you go for killings on eastern front and the usual wild figures (no evidence for) to prove your fable. It doesn't help your narrative since at the time it was formed and went into operation (supposedly to exterminate the Jewish race) Germany is helping Jews to emigrate to Palestine with their wealth and at the state's expense. Huh????? Makes no sense and your ramblings don't begin to explain the contradiction. Still not out of the blocks troll. LOL!
quote:You call them "partisans" and justify mass murder because it was "war".
They were partisans jackass and it was a war, jackass.
quote:Were these people soldiers he was dumping in ditches?
Retard doesn't know what a partisan means. lol
quote:But they were dragged out of their homes, beaten killed, shop windows smashed and put into ghettoes and concentration camps, men women and kids. I ask you why did they do this? You won't answer because you are promoting the idea that they just wanted to help.
You're a liar, I did answer this, you are getting too desperate now.
quote: So the Nazis came up with the discreet gassing plan, trains leading to the camps, disposal ovens and the trick that people were getting deloused, building these facilities
Been here already troll, no evidence for gassing. Your own holocaust "scholars" (Jewish and none Jewish) scholars admit it. You again lose bitch.
Posted by Faheemdunkers (Member # 20844) on :
^ Gas was used for delousing.
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
The magic six million is still important even after revisions of the numbers by holocau$t historians themselves! LOL!
"It is vulgar and offensive for anybody to use the death of six million Jews and millions of others in the Holocaust to make a joke, but this is especially true for someone who is Jewish and who proudly and publicly wears her Jewishness on her sleeve," added Foxman.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: ^ Gas was used for delousing.
Delousing your bloodclat pubic hair, Fahimdundus...
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