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I've seen this all over Africa and the north coast tourist resorts of Jamaica and observed that some of the Western male travellers hoping to score with their compatriots get overlooked.
In addition to seeing it overseas, I've seen it in the UK, in my home city of Bristol, where a certain section of youthful, middle class white women sought/seek out young black men, although there's normally no 'direct' transaction. I have to admit that in my early 20s I got caught up in that myself. I remember going to get my CV/resume updated and then later getting a call from the secretary asking me out for a date!
Even more bizarre was when a colleague in a call centre I worked at, a black guy in his late teens/early 20s,bet us that he could fvck the call centre manager, a white woman of 36 - yep, you guessed it, he did!
My question is does this all really matter, or is there a deeper, unhealthy fetish at work?
The men are young, gorgeous and up for it. No wonder Western women see a Third World holiday as the gateway to casual sex - sometimes in exchange for cash. But as a new film highlights female sex tourism, Liz Hoggard asks who really pays the price Posts: 838 | From: London | Registered: Oct 2011
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The vast majority of White woman are interested in white men, and vice-versa. Take a look at any dating site, or any statistic.
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Whites Prefer Whites When Dating Online
''Researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, analyzed the racial preferences and online activity of people from the United States who subscribed between 2009 and 2010 to a major Internet dating service
Data from more than 1 million profiles of singles looking for love online confirms that whites overwhelmingly prefer to date members of their own race.
The same is not true for blacks, especially men, who are far more likely to cross the race barrier to meet a mate.
According to the study, more than 80 percent of the online dating contacts initiated by whites were to other whites, with only 3 percent going to blacks. This trend held for both men and women, young and old.
Although black participants initiated contact to members of their own race more than to whites, they were ten times more likely to contact whites than vice versa, according the study.''
Blacks, especially black males in contrast date or seek sexual intercourse outside of their race, 10 times or more higher than whites. It's basically self-hate, black men aren't sexually attracted to black woman, it's why 70% of African-American females are single and why they go to the extremes to straighten their hair so they can look more like white woman...
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quote: According to the study, more than 80 percent of the online dating contacts initiated by whites were to other whites, with only 3 percent going to blacks. This trend held for both men and women, young and old.
Not good enough. Where did they go to conduct the study and to what degree did blacks make up the sites' users? If we have to work out broad generalizations, whites are the majority of the population and represent an even greater part of the internet population. It is only rational to assume with what information I've been presented thus far that the majority of white women will go to white men. This also does not control for things like family objecting to interracial relations, concerns over views of promiscuity ("slut shaming"). All could reduce a woman from actively seeking out a black partner but don't have to affect her opinion of him sexually.
quote: Blacks, especially black males in contrast date or seek sexual intercourse outside of their race, 10 times or more higher than whites.
There are more white females to choose from compared to the other way around. Use your head. White women couldn't possibly all have a black man. There is also less social backlash of black men having sex with white women within the black community due to the social objectification of a white woman in mainstream media and the greater social permissiveness of casual sex among men in general compared to women. Not sayin black women aren't objectified but as a white women relates to the life of a black man in mainstream portrayal she lacks variety outside of that objectification. Meanwhile there is more dimension in how black women are portrayed to black men.
quote:It's basically self-hate, black men aren't sexually attracted to black woman, it's why 70% of African-American females are single and why they go to the extremes to straighten their hair so they can look more like white woman...
Meanwhile observe as Cassi ignores the Euro women with eating disorders, their yearning to be like long limbed models, their aesthetics for bronze skin and their growing desires for an ass with definition and size.
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So why do western women go to Jamaica and Africa and indulge in sex tourism?
At Walter Fletcher Beach in Montego Bay, I remember seeing a Jamaican guy chatting up a young white American women in the sea, telling her that she was in Jamaica so should chill. Later I overheard him telling one of his friends that he had fingered her! This was confirmed by my cousin, who had been snorkelling...
When I was in the Gambia, a German chick started 'dating' one of the male members of staff. German women are quite notorious for this- I remember reading something where a white Jamaican of German descent noted the way that German women overlooked him for the local black men.
I remember watching a programme where a group of 4 or 5 white British guys went to Barbados on holiday and noticed that the British girls overlooked them and went after the local Bajans instead.
When I was in Tanzania, a Norwegian girl got a job working at a locally owned beach bar in Zanzibar, and 'went out' with the boss. Every night , as we sat out on the beach drinking, we could hear her getting fvcked - quite painfully by the sound of it, which led to a British guy conjecturing that her boyfriend was a 'back door man'.
When I was in Malawi, an Israeli girl paired off with one of the local guys, leading a white South African man to say ' she's one of those'. Funnily enough, I bumped into the Israeli chick in Harare, walking down the street with a Swiss girl who had fvcked a Zimbabwean guy that I drank with.
So if this thread is nonsense, why do Western women indulge in sex tourism?
Why did that middle class secretary - quite unprofessionally it should be said - call me and ask me for a date?
How was my former colleague able to fvck the call centre manager?
Why did one of my school friends, when she went to university, get pushed down on a table by a white guy and asked 'is this how your coons do you?'
Why did a former colleague of mine, who I bumped into on the coach from Victoria to Bristol, tell me the story of how when she went to South Africa, a white South African male said of a white British women whilst she was bending over playing snooker: 'I can't believe that a black man has fucked that ass'.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @anglopyramidologist
Nonsense thread.
So why do western women go to Jamaica and Africa and indulge in sex tourism?
At Walter Fletcher Beach in Montego Bay, I remember seeing a Jamaican guy chatting up a young white American women in the sea, telling her that she was in Jamaica so should chill. Later I overheard him telling one of his friends that he had fingered her! This was confirmed by my cousin, who had been snorkelling...
When I was in the Gambia, a German chick started 'dating' one of the male members of staff. German women are quite notorious for this- I remember reading something where a white Jamaican of German descent noted the way that German women overlooked him for the local black men.
I remember watching a programme where a group of 4 or 5 white British guys went to Barbados on holiday and noticed that the British girls overlooked them and went after the local Bajans instead.
When I was in Tanzania, a Norwegian girl got a job working at a locally owned beach bar in Zanzibar, and 'went out' with the boss. Every night , as we sat out on the beach drinking, we could hear her getting fvcked - quite painfully by the sound of it, which led to a British guy conjecturing that her boyfriend was a 'back door man'.
When I was in Malawi, an Israeli girl paired off with one of the local guys, leading a white South African man to say ' she's one of those'. Funnily enough, I bumped into the Israeli chick in Harare, walking down the street with a Swiss girl who had fvcked a Zimbabwean guy that I drank with.
So if this thread is nonsense, why do Western women indulge in sex tourism?
Why did that middle class secretary - quite unprofessionally it should be said - call me and ask me for a date?
How was my former colleague able to fvck the call centre manager?
Why did one of my school friends, when she went to university, get pushed down on a table by a white guy and asked 'is this how your coons do you?'
Why did a former colleague of mine, who I bumped into on the coach from Victoria to Bristol, tell me the story of how when she went to South Africa, a white South African male said of a white British women whilst she was bending over playing snooker: 'I can't believe that a black man has fucked that ass'.
yuh dun know:
This has been brought up a few times round 'ere in the past in quite a few threads, fe example...
Dem been chasing black pumpum and black buddy fram time immemorial smh lol
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Speaking of yte broads who can't get enough of the black buddy, Kim Kardashian has yet another victim- Kanye West smh whom I think is an eediat anyway, from long before he got involved with her...this just confirmed it, lol...
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @anglopyramidologist
Nonsense thread.
So if this thread is nonsense, why do Western women indulge in sex tourism?
Why did that middle class secretary - quite unprofessionally it should be said - call me and ask me for a date?
How was my former colleague able to fvck the call centre manager?
Why did one of my school friends, when she went to university, get pushed down on a table by a white guy and asked 'is this how your coons do you?'
Why did a former colleague of mine, who I bumped into on the coach from Victoria to Bristol, tell me the story of how when she went to South Africa, a white South African male said of a white British women whilst she was bending over playing snooker: 'I can't believe that a black man has fucked that ass'.
It is not a nonsense thread, Anglo knows the ireversible truth. White males are naturally feminine, at any given moment snap into a state of psycotic rage, a white woman is safer being in the wilderness wearing a meatdress than dating a white man.
Majority of white males are like this guy. homosexual In the blink of an eye white males can turn in raging savages with a diet consisting of nothing more than viagra and dianabol.
Josh Powell The common white american family wife two kids and a golden retreiver The common white male slipping into a state of caveman savagery.
White males are psychotic, pedophilic, and out of control white women dont feel safe with white men. White men also have a foam at the mouth obsession over pedophilia, White males cant seem to stop raping children. Posts: 340 | From: Outer Limits | Registered: Mar 2012
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^ Kim Kardashian isn't white, she's part Amerindian. There are very few white-black couple celebrities, they are as rare as they are in common society. They are looked down upon by everyone, and always end up in divorce (interacial marriage divorce rate is higher than 70%). If there is a child involved it's even worse. Recent studies have shown mixed-race children are up to 10 times more violent, and they suffer from an identity crisis, hence there is a higher suicide rate among mixed-race teenagers.
Btw, according to marriage stats 98.7% of white woman are married to white men.
There are just a few insecure black men online like Claus who like to manipulate the stats.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @anglopyramidologist
Nonsense thread.
So why do western women go to Jamaica and Africa and indulge in sex tourism?
At Walter Fletcher Beach in Montego Bay, I remember seeing a Jamaican guy chatting up a young white American women in the sea, telling her that she was in Jamaica so should chill. Later I overheard him telling one of his friends that he had fingered her! This was confirmed by my cousin, who had been snorkelling...
When I was in the Gambia, a German chick started 'dating' one of the male members of staff. German women are quite notorious for this- I remember reading something where a white Jamaican of German descent noted the way that German women overlooked him for the local black men.
I remember watching a programme where a group of 4 or 5 white British guys went to Barbados on holiday and noticed that the British girls overlooked them and went after the local Bajans instead.
When I was in Tanzania, a Norwegian girl got a job working at a locally owned beach bar in Zanzibar, and 'went out' with the boss. Every night , as we sat out on the beach drinking, we could hear her getting fvcked - quite painfully by the sound of it, which led to a British guy conjecturing that her boyfriend was a 'back door man'.
When I was in Malawi, an Israeli girl paired off with one of the local guys, leading a white South African man to say ' she's one of those'. Funnily enough, I bumped into the Israeli chick in Harare, walking down the street with a Swiss girl who had fvcked a Zimbabwean guy that I drank with.
So if this thread is nonsense, why do Western women indulge in sex tourism?
Why did that middle class secretary - quite unprofessionally it should be said - call me and ask me for a date?
How was my former colleague able to fvck the call centre manager?
Why did one of my school friends, when she went to university, get pushed down on a table by a white guy and asked 'is this how your coons do you?'
Why did a former colleague of mine, who I bumped into on the coach from Victoria to Bristol, tell me the story of how when she went to South Africa, a white South African male said of a white British women whilst she was bending over playing snooker: 'I can't believe that a black man has fucked that ass'.
When i used to be on Stormfront, Anthroscape, Biodiversity and other such forums, what you have posted, i commonly observed. Black males join those sites and post the exact same nonsense you have. Such claims have been debunked over and over, as has the lie black males have larger penis lengths.
A very high porportion of black males are perverted in nature. They have sex on the brain, and just see females as for sex (this explains why 72% of black children are born out of wedlock)...
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Go to Russia and say that shyit, see if you want get your ass handed to you.
quote:Originally posted by Bonampak420:
quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @anglopyramidologist
Nonsense thread.
So if this thread is nonsense, why do Western women indulge in sex tourism?
Why did that middle class secretary - quite unprofessionally it should be said - call me and ask me for a date?
How was my former colleague able to fvck the call centre manager?
Why did one of my school friends, when she went to university, get pushed down on a table by a white guy and asked 'is this how your coons do you?'
Why did a former colleague of mine, who I bumped into on the coach from Victoria to Bristol, tell me the story of how when she went to South Africa, a white South African male said of a white British women whilst she was bending over playing snooker: 'I can't believe that a black man has fucked that ass'.
It is not a nonsense thread, Anglo knows the ireversible truth. White males are naturally feminine, at any given moment snap into a state of psycotic rage, a white woman is safer being in the wilderness wearing a meatdress than dating a white man.
Majority of white males are like this guy. homosexual In the blink of an eye white males can turn in raging savages with a diet consisting of nothing more than viagra and dianabol.
Josh Powell The common white american family wife two kids and a golden retreiver The common white male slipping into a state of caveman savagery.
White males are psychotic, pedophilic, and out of control white women dont feel safe with white men. White men also have a foam at the mouth obsession over pedophilia, White males cant seem to stop raping children.
Please answer the questions and debunk if possible. Why is it nonsense? -the above is true. A certain demographic of white women do go abroad and engage in sexual tourism.
The question is why? You haven't answered.
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Go to Russia and say that shyit, see if you want get your ass handed to you.
It would appear that the mere fact of being black in Russia is sometimes enough to provoke savagery.
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^ Its nonsense because the vast majority of white woman are not attracted to black men.
Not that this forum is much to go on, but since i've been here (over a year), i should point out the only 3 white females on this forum have made it clear they find black men repulsive and only date white men. This is very typical, its the norm and completely natural.
This is a reality only black males can't come to terms with, so they direct all their anger at white men out of envy or sexual frustration, its probably a factor why black on white crime is so high.
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Please answer the questions and debunk if possible. Why is it nonsense? -the above is true. A certain demographic of white women do go abroad and engage in sexual tourism.
The question is why? You haven't answered.
It's documented FACT/TRUTH that in the U.S. the first anti-amalgamation laws, which were in Maryland, were enacted specifically to keep yte females away from Black Men...it got to the point that they threatened lifetime enslavement for yte females married to/involved sexually with Black Men, and many yte females chose slavery for a lifetime...documented FACT/TRUTH, which I posted in one of those threads referenced in my post above....Ijs...
I can assure those that haven't seen it with their own eyes, there are no shortage of yte females from both the U.S. and Europe who go to the Caribbean just for sex with the local Black Men and give the men money, clothes, etc etc etc...or who may not go with that purpose in mind, but end up sexing local Black Men before they go back ah farrin...yte females love off the 'rent-a-dreads' dem in JA...seen it with my own eyes too many times to count, sadly smh....
At one point it was in vogue for European royalty to take Black mistresses...as the amount of them who did so is a documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
At one point it was in vogue/commonplace/expected for yte planters/platation owners in the Caribbean to take Black mistresses...as the amount of them who did so is a documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
Quadroon and octoroon balls....documented FACT/TRUTH yes....
numerous yte slave masters, despite them having yte wives, raping and/or breeding their Black female slaves and servants...documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
the many yte slave masters who did sex and breed their own Black female slaves and servants, and then sent the resulting children off for the finest education they could pay for in Europe and left their property, land, money, etc., to those children at their death until laws were enacted preventing them from doing so...documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
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Please answer the questions and debunk if possible. Why is it nonsense? -the above is true. A certain demographic of white women do go abroad and engage in sexual tourism.
The question is why? You haven't answered.
It's documented FACT/TRUTH that in the U.S. the first anti-amalgamation laws, which were in Maryland, were enacted specifically to keep yte females away from Black Men...it got to the point that they threatened lifetime enslavement for yte females married to/involved sexually with Black Men, and many yte females chose slavery for a lifetime...documented FACT/TRUTH, which I posted in one of those threads referenced in my post above....Ijs...
I can assure those that haven't seen it with their own eyes, there are no shortage of yte females from both the U.S. and Europe who go to the Caribbean just for sex with the local Black Men and give the men money, clothes, etc etc etc...or who may not go with that purpose in mind, but end up sexing local Black Men before they go back ah farrin...yte females love off the 'rent-a-dreads' dem in JA...seen it with my own eyes too many times to count, sadly smh....
At one point it was in vogue for European royalty to take Black mistresses...as the amount of them who did so is a documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
At one point it was in vogue/commonplace/expected for yte planters/platation owners in the Caribbean to take Black mistresses...as the amount of them who did so is a documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
Quadroon and octoroon balls....documented FACT/TRUTH yes....
numerous yte slave masters, despite them having yte wives, raping and/or breeding their Black female slaves and servants...documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
the many yte slave masters who did sex and breed their own Black female slaves and servants, and then sent the resulting children off for the finest education they could pay for in Europe and left their property, land, money, etc., to those children at their death until laws were enacted preventing them from doing so...documented FACT/TRUTH yes...
All documentated, but the point is these things happened as isolated occurances or on a very small scale.
The statistics speak for themselves.
98.7% of white woman are married to white men. Statistics on dating sites show the vast majority of white woman only seek a match with a white man and vice-versa.
The internet is filled with distortion on these topics. It's the same nonsense usually spouted about white men and asian woman, when in reality statistics show only 1% of white men are married to an oriental.
The people who distort or exaggerate the stats are usually insecure black males.
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Its nonsense because the vast majority of white woman are not attracted to black men.
Not that I really care, but what survey have you undertaken to prove this? As a 'man', how do you feel you can speak about what white women find attractive? You know as well as I do that your political views on race are marginal, so what makes you think other aspects of your racialised world view have any credibility?
What I'm describing in my post is something written in the mainstream press that reflects something that I've observed on my travels - that Western women do indulge in sexual tourism. I've notice in it specifically in Africa and Jamaica. Why?
In addition, in the UK, there is a notable mixed-race black-white population. Given that you say that the vast majority of white women are not attracted to black men, why do the above instances occur? The majority of women in the UK don't come into any meaningful contact with black men, and the number of black men is small. It also tends to be Afro-Caribbean men that partner with white women, so the pool is smaller still. Yet, again, there is a notable mixed race population. If your assertion was true, that the vast majority of white women don't find black men attractive, then the mixed-race population wouldn't be anywhere near as noticeable as it is now.
So, again, why do Western women engage in sex tourism in places like Africa and Jamaica? I know its difficult for you, but its reality.
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Go to Russia and say that shyit, see if you want get your ass handed to you.
It would appear that the mere fact of being black in Russia is sometimes enough to provoke savagery.
Yes the fact of being black in russia is enough to have the savage slip into his barbarian state, :036 I only feel safe in my car Black Men In Russia-YouTube
Facts its not only white women runnning to black men, White males in epidemic numbers have also been flocking to black males to "CUCKOLD" their wife. The husband, the white male is often known as "clean up duty" You can guess what that job consist of.
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Look up marriage or dating statistics. 98.7% of white woman are married to white men according to the most recent US Census and marriage stats. The stats for 2006 i have: 50,224,000 ''white wife, white husband'' (98%), while only 0.22% of married white men have a black wife (117,000).
It is claimed over the net, that asian-white couples are high. Again, the stats debunk this. White men with asian wives, as low as 1.13%.
Interracial unions are not common. They are not natural and will always be the extreme minority. People who are involved in them themselves however tend to have a lot of insecurity and like to distort the numbers to make it seem they are common to legitimise or justify them.
As for Stats in UK, you are posting more nonsense. The mixed race population in UK is 1.2% (2001, Census). How on earth is that noticible? You might only see it regular in London, as the indigenous white British poulation there has dropped to under 40% through uncontrolled mass immigration.
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So how does that mean that the vast majority of white women don't find black men attractive? Just because you're in a relationship -which I doubt you are or ever have been- it doesn't mean you don't register the attractiveness of other people. In addition, given that the black male population in the UK is relatively small, then there simply aren't enough to go round - so the vast majority of white women will of course settle down with white men. Moreover, as I've said before, I would doubt that most white women ever have meaningful contact with black men to make any sort of 'encounter' likely. Maybe that's why some of them fly off to Jamaica and Africa, who knows.
Not that I'm saying that all white women want a black man, but given the evidence, your claim that the vast majority of white women do not find black men attractive is ridiculous.
Interracial unions are not common. They are not natural and will always be the extreme minority. People who are involved in them themselves however tend to have a lot of insecurity and like to distort the numbers to make it seem they are common to legitimise or justify them.
For someone born in 1990, it's stunning that you could you write such obvious sh1t. Interracial partnerships are common - where have you been? I've heard African-Americans comment on the number of mixed partnerships in the UK. OK, interracial dating/partnerships might not be acceptable among BNP and National Front weirdoes, but they are common in mainstream society and generally accepted. Not sure if your comments on the insecurity of those involved in interracial relationships is aimed at me - although you have previously asked if my children are mixed-race - but if it is, you're a dummy. My partner is a black woman.
However, one of my two brothers has a white wife and three kids; of my six UK-born uncles, four have/had white partners/wives. If the vast majority of white women didn't find black men attractive as you argue, then I doubt the above would have been possible.
The mixed race population in UK is 1.2% (2001, Census). How on earth is that noticible? You might only see it regular in London
So, using figures from ovwr 10 years ago, before the current baby boom , the mixed race population out of a total UK population of 60m, would have been 720,000 - that would equate to a top 5 city in Britain.
'You might only see it regular in London'...
God, you're so dumb!There are other UK cities where there's a very visible mixed-race population - my own city of Bristol being one I know well; Birmingham and the West Midlands towns, Liverpool, Cardiff and Manchester being others. You need to travel more.
Granted that not all mixed-race people will have a black father, I however would venture that a disproportionate number of them do. This again undermines your weak contention that the vast majority of white women do not find black men attractive. If the black male population was significantly larger, then I'm pretty sure it lead to a larger number of partnerships with white women.
Get over it.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: [QB] @Anglo_pyramidologist
98.7% of white woman are married to white men
So how does that mean that the vast majority of white women don't find black men attractive? Just because you're in a relationship -which I doubt you are or ever have been- it doesn't mean you don't register the attractiveness of other people. In addition, given that the black male population in the UK is relatively small, then there simply aren't enough to go round - so the vast majority of white women will of course settle down with white men.
Blacks make up 2% of the UK population and then we'd have to consider that many of them will be with people of their respective race. Cassi fails again.
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So how does that mean that the vast majority of white women don't find black men attractive? Just because you're in a relationship -which I doubt you are or ever have been- it doesn't mean you don't register the attractiveness of other people. In addition, given that the black male population in the UK is relatively small, then there simply aren't enough to go round - so the vast majority of white women will of course settle down with white men. Moreover, as I've said before, I would doubt that most white women ever have meaningful contact with black men to make any sort of 'encounter' likely.
Beauty surveys, both male and female, put Negroids at the bottom. The ideal face, both male and female is Caucasoid (Google: 'Perfect Face'). Look at any study or survey online.
On top of that everyone finds nappy hair unattractive.
quote: For someone born in 1990, it's stunning that you could you write such obvious sh1t. Interracial partnerships are common - where have you been?
Mixed marriage/partnerships are not common and are looked down upon by everyone. It's only a couple of insecure freaks behind the internet claiming they are 'popular'. The rest of your nonsense isn't worth my time.
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quote:So, using figures from ovwr 10 years ago, before the current baby boom , the mixed race population out of a total UK population of 60m, would have been 720,000 - that would equate to a top 5 city in Britain.
The mixed race population here is 1%.
Please... if you think 1% is popular. lol.
An btw, as you pointed out, mixed relationships are not restricted to blacks and whites, but also other races. So in other words mixed black white couples in UK are far under 1%. They are not a commonly observed and are very rare, furthermore when they are observed in the major cities they are looked down upon.
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This is a big headline on the cnn.com home page today:
Can there ever again be an 'all-American' beauty?
Editor's note: This is the final part of a six-week series on the perceptions of beauty. Last week, we looked at self-acceptance and self-confidence. This week, we explore how beauty standards across cultures affect perceptions of beauty in the United States.
Check out what CNN iReporters say beauty means to them.
By Sarah Springer, CNN
(CNN) – As 18-year-old Giovana Frediani and her friends stood in front of the mirror to prep for a night out, one girl turned around and complained that her backside was getting big.
It was that moment when Giovana – popular, fashionable Giovana – felt the knock of self-doubt.
As usual, she dressed to accentuate her curves, a typical style among her Latina family and friends. But these friends were from a predominantly white area in Oakland. In her eyes, there was nothing oversized about them.
“If she was saying that about her own body, then she must have been thinking the same way about mine,” said Giovana, an American high school senior who grew up in a mostly Latino and black area of Oakland.
“I almost feel out of place because they define beauty in different ways than I do.”
The U.S. population is growing, changing, mixing in new ways - more people are in interracial relationships and more identify as multiracial than ever. Those realities change the way women, especially, look at others, ourselves and the idea of the “all-American beauty,” if there is such a thing.
Some trend-watchers and researchers say the increased diversity and mixing among races is shifting the population away from a standard of beauty for women that’s dominated by white faces. Others agree that it’s happening, but say it’s driven by mass media’s desire to reach a more diverse audience – or sell products to it.
Out of 2,000 people who responded to an Allure magazine poll in 2011, 73% of women said they find curvier bodies more attractive now than they did over the last 10 years. People polled said they wanted larger lips, butts and hips, an Allure editor said, and 70% of those who want to change their skin color said they want it to be darker. The same survey said 64% believe women of mixed race represented the "epitome of beauty."
And 71% of women and 67% of men said there's no such thing as an “all-American” look.
The results were wildly different from a similar poll the magazine conducted when it launched in 1991, Allure Executive Editor Kristin Perrotta said.
“There was a dramatic shift in what people considered the beauty ideal in America now,” she said. “We went from the blond hair, blue-eye, typical all-American girl like Christie Brinkley in 1991, to this dark, sultry Angelina Jolie ideal in 2011.
“It just was not what you would have imagined the Hollywood ideal being, which is also this tall, thin, blond ideal that we are sort of used to.”
But even before girls and women tackle universal beauty ideals, they’re often struggling to understand standards closer to home.
‘Looking in the same mirror as everyone else’
Marium Soomro parents’ are from Pakistan, and even before she hit the teen years, her mom brought home the skin lightening cream Fair and Lovely. Women in her family used it in Pakistan, and carried on the practice in the United States, she said - even her fairer-skinned mothers and sisters.
“‘Hey, put this on, you’ll get whiter,’” she remembers her mom saying. “Or, ‘Put yogurt on your face at night and your skin will get lighter.’”
Soomro is 23 now, and a student at Rutgers University. She still uses the cream sometimes, she said.
Then there’s Leslie Rosales, 27, a Filipino who was born and raised in a predominantly black neighborhood in South Los Angeles. She’s Asian, but connected more with her black friends’ sense of beauty and style.
“Going to the Philippines, everyone there was petite,” she said of trips to her family’s home country. “They’re small and for some reason I’m not. I’m 5'4" and I weigh 155, I’m considered an overweight giant in the Philippines.
“I felt the pressure from family and tried to change, so that was difficult, dealing with what my family thought I should look like opposed to what I thought I should look like.”
Giovana, the Oakland high school student, said she feels pretty among her classmates and community, and it makes her feel in control. But in a different part of town, among a different set of friends, feeling not-so-pretty made her want to act differently, too.
When she stopped playing volleyball at school and gained some weight, she said, a few extra pounds didn’t seem pretty anymore. She started binge eating and over-exercising, and it took a long time to recover from those behaviors, she said.
“Honestly, I wonder if I’m looking in the same mirror as everyone else,” Giovana said. “I’ve noticed just how important a perfect body is to every girl. It’s like we are blindly trying to find a way to be who we want to be and the most immediate way we can think of to manipulate who we are is physically.”
When a person is confronted with a dominating culture that differs from their own, the culture outside the home tends to win, said Maya Poran, an associate professor of psychology at the Ramapo College of New Jersey.
“If what you’re sharing in the home is contrasting from that immediately around you and the power of that communication is so much more constant and intensive, we do find that dominant cultural norms win,” she said. “If every single day we’re getting feedback that is telling us negative, it is likely that we are going to feel that thing is negative.”
Although perceptions of beauty can differ depending on culture, race, ethnicity and experience, no one is exempt from the pressures of universal beauty ideals within America.
“The issues about body and beauty are shifting - they’re not disappearing,” Poran said. “Everyone is affected by it, influenced by it, and related to it in some way.”
Even as body and beauty standards shift and include more people of color, Poran said there will still be a dominant body type – thin and white - which can be a struggle for women outside that body type.
“There is a white norm and there’s a black norm and a Latina norm and there is an Asian norm, and they are all equally different, but there is a dominant standard of beauty, which is white or white-like,” Poran said. “The more people who are included in very a narrow version of beauty, the more likely they will compare themselves against it and feel negative about themselves.”
“No one is untouched by it. No one.”
‘A a narrow version of beauty’
Poran, who is writing a book about race and beauty, said she began to research body ideals after she noticed most studies used white women as a standard of beauty, even as they studied women of different racial and ethnic backgrounds.
“For the majority of this research vein, whiteness was the unquestioned image of beauty,” she said. “Meaning when we’re talking about beauty or body, they were covertly talking about whiteness, but not realizing it.”
Poran organized different focus groups geared toward allowing white, black and Latina women to define their own feelings about beauty.
Young black and Latina women Poran interviewed said they felt judged by multiple standards of beauty – one within their own racial or ethnic community, and another set by a larger white, Anglo community.
“There was no way to get it right,” Poran said. “If you can walk through many different worlds at once, you can be judged by many different standards at once.”
And the pressure to be thin and light-skinned can weigh even on those who seem to match it most closely.
As a child and teen, Rachel Blais always felt ugly. She was pale and tall with curly hair.
“I was very skinny, I had no boobs, I guess that body type when you’re about 13, 14,” said Blais, who was recently featured in the documentary, “Girl Model.”
At age 14, she was recruited to work as a model. By 17, she was traveling internationally for her career. Now 27, she still works in the industry, but she’s among the older models, she said. Many of her colleagues now are prepubescent girls or teens, all of them posed to look like older women.
“Using 15-year-old girls to represent the ideal woman makes me think that a woman of 25, 30, 40 years old looks at those billboards and at a magazine and is looking at girls … disguised as women promoting clothing for women,” she said. “You can’t ever go back to being 15.”
Joan Jacobs Brumberg, a historian who wrote “The Body Project: An Intimate History of American Girls,” said it’s easy to blame images in the media, but women’s body obsessions were long in the making – and modern conveniences have made it easy to keep those obsessions going.
“I always say you can’t blame it on Twiggy or Calvin Klein. I think they’re implicated,” but it really started in the 1920s, she said. “When you have calories, when you have mirrors, when you have bathroom scales, when you begin to have standard sizing, you don’t have a dressmaker, or a mother who makes your clothes and you have to get into a particular size - those things are critical in how women think about their bodies.”
Taylor Cook, an agent at Fusion Models in New York, said lithe bodies and symmetrical faces are still in demand, but the modeling industry is starting to seek more diverse skin tones and features prominent only among certain ethnic groups. Asian models like Tian Yi and Lina Zhang are representing products in national and international media.
“(They are) two of our top-selling girls, getting all of the major beauty campaigns and high-fashion editorials, and looking at other agencies, their Asian girls are doing really well,” Cook said. “If you would have gone back a few seasons, you didn’t see a lot of Asian girls.”
Perrotta, the Allure editor, expects America’s celebrated beauties will keep changing, too.
“In terms of the models and celebrities who are idolized, they’ll be ethnically vague. You can’t tell if they’re black or white or Hispanic, it’s going to be this mixture,” Perrotta said. “Everyone can see a little bit of themselves in these people rather than the classically Anglican features, or classically black features.”
Linda Blum, associate professor of sociology and interim director of women’s, gender and sexuality studies at Northeastern University, said changing standards of beauty are driven more by business than by cultural curiosity, diversity or acceptance.
“If we have more multiracial children, or more biracial children will (this) lead to more uniform and diverse standards of beauty? I don’t really think so,” Blum said. “I don’t mean to be completely conspiratorial, but (people will) have to find some other way to sustain growing markets.”
Maybe, with the next generation of consumers.
Giovana, the student in Oakland, will graduate high school this year. She thinks life outside the classroom walls will make it easier to understand who she is and what she thinks is beautiful – or how much it even matters.
“I do have a mind, I do have a direction that I want to go in, and aspirations,” she said.
Her goal? Show business.
“I want to do something in that industry,” she said.
Then she added, laughing - “which is all based on looks.”
quote: On top of that everyone finds nappy hair unattractive.
Key word there is 'everyone' thus a LIE....because not 'EVERYONE' feels that way...it's your problem, not ours, that yuh too dunce to comprehend the numerous articles and pictures that have been presented stating otherwise....
and yuh tongue soon rotten drop out from lies yuh dutty renk malformed Down's Syndrome hobbit....
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: The mixed race population here is 1%.
And blacks make 2% of the population a d 44% or of all mixed people (that's nearly half). .9 of the 1.4% of mixed race is black-white. Why are you expecting a much high number to communicate popularity when the population whites most often desire unions with in the UK (blacks) are in very short supply?
quote: They are not a commonly observed and are very rare, furthermore when they are observed in the major cities they are looked down upon.
The methodology for your conclusion needs work. They're not going to be commonly observed when they don't make very much of your population. Smh...
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quote: On top of that everyone finds nappy hair unattractive.
Key word there is 'everyone' thus a LIE....because not 'EVERYONE' feels that way...it's your problem, not ours, that yuh too dunce to comprehend the numerous articles and pictures that have been presented stating otherwise....
and yuh tongue soon rotten drop out from lies yuh dutty renk malformed Down's Syndrome hobbit....
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@oshun And blacks make 2% of the population a d 44% or of all mixed unions (that's nearly half). Why are you expecting a high number to communicate popularity when the population whites most often desire unions with in the UK (blacks) are in very short supply?
Exactly. When whites do marry/partner with someone from a different race, they often choose someone black. Which again undermines Anglo's idea that the vast majority of white women find black men unattractive. Again, if the black male population were significantly larger, you would see a greater absolute number of white-black partnerships.
@anglo-Pyramidologist this article from the right-wing Daily Mail, October 2011
Two million of mixed race living in Britain... and they may be the nation's biggest ethnic minority
The number of mixed race people in Britain may be double the official count, say researchers.
The study suggests that there may be as many as two million from a mixed ethnic background instead of just under one million , which was the official estimate made earlier this year.
The new figures mean that children of mixed parents may be one of the biggest ethnic groups in the country, outnumbering those who class themselves as black and much bigger than the largest single non-white grouping – those of Indian origin.
The estimate suggests that racial barriers in Britain are much less important than many have believed, and that integration is a reality for a high proportion of the population.
It also casts a stark new light on the way many children trapped in the state care system have been denied a chance of a new home through adoption because social workers will not allow mixed race adoptions.
The latest estimate was compiled by academics and disclosed by BBC 2’s Newsnight yesterday.
They say that while official surveys are based on counts of people who say yes when asked if they are mixed race, more accurate numbers can be produced by asking for the ethnicity of their parents. This question is thought to produce better answers from those who find the description ‘mixed race’ ugly or offensive. According to the analysis carried out by Dr Alita Nandi at the Institute for Social and Economic Research, the alternative way of counting mixed-race individuals produces a figure of 1.99 per cent of adults, as opposed to the 0.88 per cent who say they are mixed race when asked directly. Newsnight added that, based on Office for National Statistics surveys, 2.9 per cent of children are described as mixed race, but 8.9 per cent live with parents who have a different ethnic background.
It said: ‘There may be around two million mixed-race people living in the UK – 3 per cent of the population and therefore a larger group than any of the defined ethnic minorities.’
The BBC also found figures suggesting that those of mixed race are likely to be successful.
It said 73 per cent reach national educational standards at the age of ten, compared with 77 per cent of white children and 65 per cent of black children.
Among mixed white and Asian children, the proportion of ten-year-olds reaching expected standards is 79 per cent, the same as Indian children and higher than the 67 per cent among Pakistani and Bangladeshi children.
The BBC cited examples of successful mixed-race people from showbusiness and sport, including Myleene Klass, Lewis Hamilton, Leona Lewis, Mark Ramprakash, Ryan Giggs and Rio Ferdinand.
The analysis comes in the wake of promises from David Cameron to speed up the adoption system which has blocked the chances of many of the 65,000 children in state care from finding permanent new families.
Social workers stick to a doctrine – unlawful in any other walk of life – that adoptive parents must be of the same ethnic mix as the children they take on.
This has had a major impact with just one baby a week – of any race – getting a new family.
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For those round 'ere who aren't aware of my stance on the IR thing, I'll tek a moment mek it known:
I'm not for it. It sick mi belly. And I seh that with no apology.
It's not something that my family/family members smile pon neidda...
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For those round 'ere who aren't aware of my stance on the IR thing, I'll tek a moment mek it known:
I'm not for it. It sick mi belly. And I seh that with no apology.
It's not something that my family/family members smile pon neidda...
Would you make your feelings known to a mixed-race child? That you think they're the product of something you find sickening?
I always thought you were a dumb bastard. (Anyone that writes in patois when everyone else is using standard english is a dickhead.)But with the above, you've really, really outdone yourself.
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quote:Exactly. When whites do marry/partner with someone from a different race, they often choose someone black. Which again undermines Anglo's idea that the vast majority of white women find black men unattractive. Again, if the black male population were significantly larger, you would see a greater absolute number of white-black partnerships.
I go with the reality of statistics. Did you see the dating stats i provided?
On dating sites, 95% of white woman only seek a match with a white man. Of 1 million surveyed, only 5% 'approach' or seek a black male.
The vast majority of white woman are not attracted to black men, but white men. This is completely natural and the norm. Scientific studies have shown babies only a few weeks old recognise and identify with their parents on racial grounds, however mixed race babies can't. Dating stats show 95% of white woman seek white men, and 98% of white woman are married to white men (US census stats). Being attracted and mating within your own race is natural. There's just a few insecure black males on the web who are manipulating stats for their own agenda.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: For those round 'ere who aren't aware of my stance on the IR thing, I'll tek a moment mek it known:
I'm not for it. It sick mi belly. And I seh that with no apology.
It's not something that my family/family members smile pon neidda...
Would you make your feelings known to a mixed-race child? That you think they're the product of something you find sickening?
I always thought you were a dumb bastard. (Anyone that writes in patois when everyone else is using standard english is a dickhead.)But with the above, you've really, really outdone yourself.
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quote:Newsnight added that, based on Office for National Statistics surveys, 2.9 per cent of children are described as mixed race, but 8.9 per cent live with parents who have a different ethnic background.
Well whatever stat you report, it will always be the extreme minority. 1.2% or 2.9%.
Mixed marriages/interracial unions will always be the extreme minority, and 70% of them end up in divorce anyway. Just a shame if a child is involved.
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@anglo Just a shame if a child is involved. Given that you say that mixed marriages are unnatural and problematic, your concern comes across as insincere bullshit.
On dating sites, 95% of white woman only seek a match with a white man. Of 1 million surveyed, only 5% 'approach' or seek a black male.
Scientific studies have shown babies only a few weeks old recognise and identify with their parents on racial grounds, however mixed race babies can't. Dating stats show 95% of white woman seek white men, and 98% of white woman are married to white men (US census stats).
Please provide links for the above. Bear in mind that we're talking about the UK here. However,
Well whatever stat you report, it will always be the extreme minority. 1.2% or 2.9%.
Newsnight added that, based on Office for National Statistics surveys, 2.9 per cent of children are described as mixed race, but 8.9 per cent live with parents who have a different ethnic background. I know you got confused by the idea of the speed of light, but the above reference to 8.9% should have been pretty easy even for you to follow.
Beauty surveys, both male and female, put Negroids at the bottom. The ideal face, both male and female is Caucasoid (Google: 'Perfect Face'). Look at any study or survey online.
Out of 2,000 people who responded to an Allure magazine poll in 2011, 73% of women said they find curvier bodies more attractive now than they did over the last 10 years. People polled said they wanted larger lips, butts and hips, an Allure editor said, and 70% of those who want to change their skin color said they want it to be darker. The same survey said 64% believe women of mixed race represented the "epitome of beauty."Posts: 838 | From: London | Registered: Oct 2011
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quote:Newsnight added that, based on Office for National Statistics surveys, 2.9 per cent of children are described as mixed race, but 8.9 per cent live with parents who have a different ethnic background.
Well whatever stat you report, it will always be the extreme minority. 1.2% or 2.9%.
So what? That doesn't mean black men aren't seen as attractive. Again, not enough to go around.
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quote:Newsnight added that, based on Office for National Statistics surveys, 2.9 per cent of children are described as mixed race, but 8.9 per cent live with parents who have a different ethnic background. I know you got confused by the idea of the speed of light, but the above reference to 8.9% should have been pretty easy even for you to follow.
You are distorting and confusing stats. You really are desperate...
Ethnicity is not the same as race. Mixed ethnic marriages in UK are mostly between White ethnic groups, a very high proportion of them are between Eastern Europeans and White-British.
There are now more than 5 million eastern europeans in Britain. They are classified as the ''White: Other'' on census forms. A high proportion of these eastern europeans have married white British. This is not interacialism, as both eastern europeans and British are the same race.
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quote:The same survey said 64% believe women of mixed race represented the "epitome of beauty."
Yep. But NEVER involving Negroids. The so called mixed race 'beauties' are always Indian-White mixes (Indians are predominantly Caucasoid anyway), it basically just gives them an exotic white look.
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Mixed ethnic marriages in UK are mostly between White ethnic groups, a very high proportion of them are between Eastern Europeans and White-British.
Links/evidence please.
As well as the evidence I asked you for earlier.
We're also veering off track. My question was about sexual tourism by Western women, whether really mattered, or whether there was a deeper, unhealthy fetish at work?
Please answer instead of going off on tangents about how most white women find black men unattractive. The fact is that white women - educated women- do indulge in sexual tourism.
You can squirm all you want, but it's the reality?
Again, care to answer why this is so?
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^ Simpleton, lol. Why do i need to provide a link?
Ethnicity is not race. Are you saying you don't know the difference?
8.9% of marriages in UK are inter-ethnic, but these include marriages between white ethnic groups (French, Italian, German etc). Same for other races. They are not interracial.
Being ethnically mixed is not the same as racially. For example, the vast majority of white Americans are a mixture of 3 or 4 european ethnicities.
Now what do you want me to answer? I've laid down the facts here.
To point out the obvious, sexual tourism is for perverts. The people who indulge in this sort of behaviour are untermensch, degenerates, sex pests, the lowest of the low. It's got nothing to do with race, there are sexual degenerates in all races, they are all in the same filthy boat.
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Anglo-P, LOL. Well, you are condemning thousands of your kin for chartering special flights to the Gambia and Senegal every year for "tropical sport". But many of these women also marry their town and beach pick-ups after showering them with expensive vehicles and stuff. Maybe these guys have a magic potion. But what is interesting is that these guys hardly find their white mates beautiful or attractive. They do it just for the money and a potential visa to Europe. Not good--but that's it.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Anglo-P, LOL. Well, you are condemning thousands of your kin for chartering special flights to the Gambia and Senegal every year for "tropical sport". But many of these women also marry their town and beach pick-ups after showering them with expensive vehicles and stuff. Maybe these guys have a magic potion. But what is interesting is that these guys hardly find their white mates beautiful or attractive. They do it just for the money and a potential visa to Europe {adding: also the US, also greencard}. Not good--but that's it.
Indeed.....
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@anglo-pyramidologist Yep. But NEVER involving Negroids. The so called mixed race 'beauties' are always Indian-White mixes (Indians are predominantly Caucasoid anyway), it basically just gives them an exotic white look.
Where does it say that mixed-race beauties 'NEVER' involve Negroids? This is your own provocative interpretation. In the popular mind, particularly in the UK, when someone thinks of the term 'mixed-race', they'll think of someone of black and white parentage. Mixed-race Brazilian women (who are largely African-European) are often perceived as the epitome of mixed-race 'beauties'.
You say:
Ethnicity is not the same as race. Mixed ethnic marriages in UK are mostly between White ethnic groups, a very high proportion of them are between Eastern Europeans and White-British.
Oh please, 'ethnicity' and 'race' are interchangeable. Please give evidence that a very high proportion of marriages between ethnic groups in the UK are between whites, specifically Eastern Europeans and White-British.
To point out the obvious, sexual tourism is for perverts. The people who indulge in this sort of behaviour are untermensch, degenerates, sex pests, the lowest of the low. It's got nothing to do with race, there are sexual degenerates in all races, they are all in the same filthy boat.
Be advised that I will continually remind you of your It's got nothing to do with race statement when you post some of your inflammatory, provocative comments on the actions of other racial groups, particularly blacks.
You stated the following but haven't backed it up with links to any sources - There are now more than 5 million eastern europeans in Britain. They are classified as the ''White: Other'' on census forms. A high proportion of these eastern europeans have married white British. This is not interacialism, as both eastern europeans and British are the same race.
Where did you get figure of 5 million from?Again, please come up with the links to the sources behind your claims and figures here.
Also, sources for the following: On dating sites, 95% of white woman only seek a match with a white man. Of 1 million surveyed, only 5% 'approach' or seek a black male.
(Also, regarding the above, that does not mean that those 95% of women have never or would never have sex with a black man. If I was ever desperate enough to use a dating site, I would enter 'seeks black/mixed-race woman', however, that doesn't mean that I had never or would never have sex with a woman who wasn't.
Scientific studies have shown babies only a few weeks old recognise and identify with their parents on racial grounds, however mixed race babies can't.
Please provide links for this wholly unbelievable statement.
However, regarding this comment
Dating stats show 95% of white woman seek white men, and 98% of white woman are married to white men (US census stats).
I would say that this is reflective of America's racial polarization - it is undeniable that black/white interracial dating/relationships are generally less problematic in the UK than in the US.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: Where does it say that mixed-race beauties 'NEVER' involve Negroids? This is your own provocative interpretation.
The 'perfect face' is symmetrical, thus with a thin nose, and orthognathic. All these traits are Caucasoid, Negroids are the opposite.
Facial symmetry is basically the key to physical attractiveness, as it involves 'fine' traits as opposed to broad.
Brad pitt (pretty good facial symmetry, ranked 9. 3) -
a black actor (forgot his name, poor facial symmetry) -
^ As the commentry says for this typical Negroid:
* poor facial symmetry * nose far too wide * facial width out of place
Every beauty survey ranks wide noses and prognathism at the bottom.
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quote: quote:Originally posted by claus3600: Where does it say that mixed-race beauties 'NEVER' involve Negroids? This is your own provocative interpretation.
The 'perfect face' is symmetrical, thus with a thin nose, and orthognathic. All these traits are Caucasoid, Negroids are the opposite.
Again the concept of race never depended on these things. Now you're going to try to divide people up based on these classifications because they're more convenient. Stop saying "Caucasoid" as if those features even originated there.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: I've seen this all over Africa and the north coast tourist resorts of Jamaica and observed that some of the Western male travellers hoping to score with their compatriots get overlooked.
In addition to seeing it overseas, I've seen it in the UK, in my home city of Bristol, where a certain section of youthful, middle class white women sought/seek out young black men, although there's normally no 'direct' transaction. I have to admit that in my early 20s I got caught up in that myself. I remember going to get my CV/resume updated and then later getting a call from the secretary asking me out for a date!
Even more bizarre was when a colleague in a call centre I worked at, a black guy in his late teens/early 20s,bet us that he could fvck the call centre manager, a white woman of 36 - yep, you guessed it, he did!
My question is does this all really matter, or is there a deeper, unhealthy fetish at work?
The men are young, gorgeous and up for it. No wonder Western women see a Third World holiday as the gateway to casual sex - sometimes in exchange for cash. But as a new film highlights female sex tourism, Liz Hoggard asks who really pays the price
Living in Kenya I'm constrained to ask-how is this news? Its a cliche! Scandinavians,Japanese,Brit,German,French and many European women covertly or overtly come for a (cough!/cough!)'relevant interpersonal cultural experience'.Btw,married and single are all down for a seeing to-I know buddies who've practically been assaulted by horny paleface women. In Mombasa an American woman snuck out of her hotel with a buddy while her hubbie was passed out in their room.I think its directly related to the ocean of faggotry in the West. Contrary to MSM misinfo women really have no time for homos and they're seeking the exact opposite when they travel. Ignore the stormfront Dr.Phil and his tedious spamming! There are even sites pushing this phenomenon,call it a fetish or obsession,the issue is real-iloveinterracial.com,darkcavern.com,cuckoldland.com,blackcockchurch.com and others.
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Where does it say that mixed-race beauties 'NEVER' involve Negroids? This is your own provocative interpretation.
Which it remains? You've done nothing to support your outlandish claim that mixed-race concepts of beauty do not include people of African descent.
Neither have you provided the sources/links/evidence that I asked for.
Conclusion: more bullshit from the online racist. Even with your shitty BTEC and crappy foundation degree in forensic anthropology, you're educated beyond your intelligence. Now I see what they mean when they say that educational standards have been 'dumbed down'.
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And he should tek note that the standard of beauty in that first picture is 20th CENTURY standards from round bout 1933....as well as try comprehend the accompanying paragraph...
I would post the actual picture, with the accompanying paragraph if I could..maybe someone else here can do so...
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quote:The 'perfect face' is symmetrical......
Facial symmetry is basically the key to physical attractiveness....
Yet you yourSelf, you likkle malformed diseased Down's Sydrome hobbit, FAIL to meet that so-called standard of physical attractiveness...both the one you keep posting as well as the 20th century version- you DON'T MEET THE STANDARD you ugly likkle pale stringy-haired troll...these we've seen with our own eyes here, when your picture was posted.... Posts: 3446 | From: U.S. by way of JA by way of Africa | Registered: Jan 2010
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Where does it say that mixed-race beauties 'NEVER' involve Negroids? This is your own provocative interpretation.
Which it remains? You've done nothing to support your outlandish claim that mixed-race concepts of beauty do not include people of African descent.
What i have posted has been confirmed by anthropological data. Prognathism, wide noses and nappy hair are all ranked the lowest in beauty surveys, while thin noses, straight-wavy hair and facial symmetry are ranked the highest.
Caucasoid (bottom), Negroid (top)
Anyone claiming they find the top row more beautiful knows they are lying.
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Battywashologist: What i have posted has been confirmed by anthropological data. Prognathism, wide noses and nappy hair are all ranked the lowest in beauty surveys, while thin noses, straight-wavy hair and facial symmetry are ranked the highest.
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whom I think is an eediat anyway, from long before he got involved with her...this just confirmed it, lol...
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