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Hot on the heels of its anti-white frenzy over the Toulouse shootings, the controlled international mass media has excelled itself once again with the shooting of a black teenager in Florida—by a Mestizo Hispanic—and has turned that incident into an anti-white hate fest all of its own.


Even the half-black American president, Barack Obama, has now climbed in on the debate, telling the media that “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” The victim, Trayvon Martin, was shot dead in Sanford, Florida by a 28-year-old Hispanic neighbourhood watch volunteer who said he was acting in self-defence.

The media frenzy is entirely artificial. Firstly, the shooting took place over a month ago—on 26 February.

Secondly, the shooter in this case is a 28-year old Hispanic. In US racial parlance, a “Hispanic” is someone who comes from Mexico, Central or South America.

The media has quite falsely claimed that the shooter, named George Zimmerman, is a “white Hispanic” —which is an indication of either their staggering bias or their crushing ignorance of race—and most likely a combination of both.

The description of the shooter as “white” has been enough to send the mass media into an orgiastic display of anti-white hatred. All over the US, there have been “anti-racist” rallies and (non-white) student protests over the “racism” which “led to the shootings.”

Even professional anti-white racist Jesse Jackson (who recently blighted Britain’s shores on a lecture about “racism” and the equally biased-media coverage given to the Stephen Lawrence murder in London), has jumped in on the action and announced that “blacks are under attack.”

Mr Jackson could not resist having a go at his traditional (and self-appointed) foes, whites in the southern states of the US. “African Americans have tried for decades to get the rest of America to understand their plight,” he said, “particularly their beliefs that justice is still elusive in many parts of America, especially the Deep South”—as if the shooting was the product of whites.

He also predicted that the “protests will continue to multiply in number and that the ranks of protestors will swell until Zimmerman is arrested.”

The outrageous claims made by the “protestors” include allegations that the victim was innocently passing by and was a “kid.”

In reality, the police investigation into the case—which will be presented to a grand jury within a few days—shows that the black “youth” (who was 6 foot 2 inches tall) attacked Zimmerman and beat him so severely that the Hispanic man was bleeding from the face.

When the police arrived at the scene, they found “Zimmerman bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting,” according to the report.

Zimmerman claimed he fired in self-defence, and all the available evidence supports his contention.

This has not stopped the anti-white hysteria from the US president down.

The coverage given this month-old incident is in marked contrast to the complete non-coverage given by the media to the never-ending string of black-on-white murders, assaults and rapes which take place in the US.

In those cases in which the race of the killer is known, blacks kill twice as many whites as whites kill blacks. Black-on-white robberies and gang assaults are twenty-one times more common than white on black. In the case of gang robbery, blacks victimize whites fifty-two times more often than whites do blacks (Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987).

The contrasts are even more stark in the case of interracial rape. 1996 was the first year that the statistics were broken down by race.

According to the US Justice Department 2006 rape statistics, 32,443 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2005 rape statistics, 37,460 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2004 rape statistics, 11,611 white women were were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2003 rape statistics, 20,309 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

And so on. Yet the controlled media is strangely silent on the black-on-white crime plague in America, and instead chooses to focus on isolated incidents where blacks are the victim—and, as in the recent Florida case—will even blame white Americans for crimes committed by non-whites.

http://nationalistunityforum.co.uk/index.php/anti-white-media-goes-into-overdrive-over-florida-killing/

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Dear reader there is already a main topic on the Zimmerman case:

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=006460

Please do not contribute to lunacy's trollish attempts to clutter the board with the same subject matter over and over. So with that said:

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Anglo-P,

Zimmerman is described by police as "white". Zimmerman declares himself as white. He carries a German name--not Spanish--and his mother is Jewish[he is therefore a white Jew].

In Europe there are Europeans with Zimmerman's phenotype. They live in places like Bulgaria, Rumania. Albania, Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Malta, Sardinia, Sicily, and Greece.

So who is Zimmerman but an unintelligent wannabe-white cop whose main obsession has been to confront a black man then shoot him.

It's raining and all this guy can do is follow a black youth wearing a hoodie--despite being advised by the police not to--confront him, argue with him then shoot him. What a jackass.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Anglo-P,

Zimmerman is described by police as "white". Zimmerman declares himself as white. He carries a German name--not Spanish--and his mother is Jewish[he is therefore a white Jew].

In Europe there are Europeans with Zimmerman's phenotype. They live in places like Bulgaria, Rumania. Albania, Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Malta, Sardinia, Sicily, and Greece.

So who is Zimmerman but an unintelligent wannabe-white cop whose main obsession has been to confront a black man then shoot him.

It's raining and all this guy can do is follow a black youth wearing a hoodie--despite being advised by the police not to--confront him, argue with him then shoot him. What a jackass.

Mek me correct you respectfully [Smile] before the yte jancro does....that murderer's mother is Peruvian, his father is a yte man...
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
[QB] Anglo-P,

Zimmerman is described by police as "white". Zimmerman declares himself as white. He carries a German name--not Spanish--and his mother is Jewish[he is therefore a white Jew].


I think it's his father who has the name "Zimmerman", Robert Zimmerman. Is his father Jewish? I haven't seen anything confirming it.
Obviously is he turns out to be Catholic or something he's less guilty, mom's Cuban she's innocent of course
damn lamin you're a mini Hitler

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
his mother is Jewish[he is therefore a white Jew].

Well that explains a lot.
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Bleeding heart WHITE liberalism is to fucking blame. I am sick and tired of these guilt laden Whites taking the nation to hell in a hand basket. All they do is placate to the race hustlers and poverty pimp black leaders, as well as Blacks who don't want to be held accountable. If this results in a race riot, the blame is on them.
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He's half/mestizo.

One of his parents is of native or predominant native heritage from Peru.

He doesn't look White. He looks Mexican, his native heritage shows.

The media is anti-white and will even blame white Americans for crimes committed by non-whites.

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quote:
Originally posted by facts:
Bleeding heart WHITE liberalism is to fucking blame. I am sick and tired of these guilt laden Whites taking the nation to hell in a hand basket. All they do is placate to the race hustlers and poverty pimp black leaders, as well as Blacks who don't want to be held accountable. If this results in a race riot, the blame is on them.

According to the US Justice Department 2006 rape statistics, 32,443 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2005 rape statistics, 37,460 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2004 rape statistics, 11,611 white women were were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2003 rape statistics, 20,309 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

And so on. Yet the controlled media is strangely silent on the black-on-white crime plague in America.

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I thought I was the only one here who saw this. The media is using any non-black on black violence as proxy to blame whites. Like how the **** does that shyt compute? The media is controlled by Jews and ultra liberal whites.

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The media is anti-white and will even blame white Americans for crimes committed by non-whites.


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Those stats are STAGGERING! Where is the outcry from the Black community? Right now, I am so fucking pissed! This is really making my blood boil. The hypocrisy has got to come to an end!

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quote:
Originally posted by facts:
Bleeding heart WHITE liberalism is to fucking blame. I am sick and tired of these guilt laden Whites taking the nation to hell in a hand basket. All they do is placate to the race hustlers and poverty pimp black leaders, as well as Blacks who don't want to be held accountable. If this results in a race riot, the blame is on them.

According to the US Justice Department 2006 rape statistics, 32,443 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2005 rape statistics, 37,460 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2004 rape statistics, 11,611 white women were were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2003 rape statistics, 20,309 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

And so on. Yet the controlled media is strangely silent on the black-on-white crime plague in America.


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what the media does not want you to see:


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up-to-date photos of Trayvon

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up-to-date photo of Zimmerman

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Media's deliberate alteration of Trayvon's photo.

Original photo as seen in the Miami Herald:

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You can authenticate the photo here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2708960/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html

Doctored photo making its round in MSN:

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How can anyone deny media bias in this?

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quote:
Originally posted by facts:
[QB] Those stats are STAGGERING! Where is the outcry from the Black community? Right now, I am so fucking pissed! This is really making my blood boil. The hypocrisy has got to come to an end!

Yep, all you can do though is raise awareness to these disturbing facts, sadly i don't think anything will change.
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He doesn't look White. He looks Mexican, his native heritage shows.
Stop kidding yourself. I have seen white Mafioso/Costra Nostra criminals who look just like Zimmerman.

And there are white Mexicans too--like Vicente Fox and others of German-Spanish background.

The police says he's white and Zimmerman says it too. In any case, white or not, Zimmerman was just displaying white behaviour.

If the mom is from Peru, so what. Peru is one of those places the Spaniards invaded and slaughtered the inhabitants. Their descendants run Peru these days--mainly white.

And those stats you are pushing, LOL, let's have the direct sources. LOL.

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Anglo,

Just the stats souces with authentic Department of Justice logo. The stats, the whole stats, and nothing but the stats. LOL.

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Wait a sec! After you bitch ass niggas have spent years on this forum arguing Mexicans are not white and that those features can be claimed by Blacks, now all of a sudden shyt changes?! HAHA! Y'all off the chain!

The world will never respect you until you drop the psychosis, fool.

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He doesn't look White. He looks Mexican, his native heritage shows.
Stop kidding yourself. I have seen white Mafioso/Costra Nostra criminals who look just like Zimmerman.

And there are white Mexicans too--like Vicente Fox and others of German-Spanish background.

The police says he's white and Zimmerman says it too. In any case, white or not, Zimmerman was just displaying white behaviour.

If the mom is from Peru, so what. Peru is one of those places the Spaniards invaded and slaughtered the inhabitants. Their descendants run Peru these days--mainly white.

And those stats you are pushing, LOL, let's have the direct sources. LOL.


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Fool, look before you leap. I have never argued anything about Mexicans. Some Mexicans are white and some are not. What's the big deal?
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Nah, dude, you have been exposed. One minute Mexicans are Black or light skin of non whites can be claimed by Blacks then when it suits your psychosis you return them to being White [Mad] . You are dismissed!


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Fool, look before you leap. I have never argued anything about Mexicans. Some Mexicans are white and some are not. What's the big deal?


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I'm fully aware there are White Mexicans and Hispanics (some are wholly Spanish for example), however Zimmerman isn't one of them. He's a mestizo, half his heritage is Amerindian.

The media is anti-white, as it jumps to blame white Americans for crimes committed by non-whites. We've seen this before many times, exactly the same in UK and rest of Europe.

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Zimmerman is being used as proxy to attack Whites. There must always be made a link between racism and Whites at all costs; this is the thinking of Blacks. They cannot afford to concede to the fact that racism comes in all colors, as it would destroy their platform for social injustice, that is, only whites can be racist.

In their struggle against what they perceive to be white supremacy, Blacks attempt to label all non-whites as black. However, in the killing of Trayvon, this position presents a problem -Zimmerman is a non-white man and Latinos can be racist against Blacks.

So, how do they link Zimmerman to Whites and dispel the fact that Latinos (or any non-white for that matter) can be racist? By focusing on Zimmerman's patrilineage, the connection is made. They can now continue to attack Whites on racial issues. As well, Blacks who've taken lead in media ignore that Zimmerman is Mexican, and swarthy complected with pronounced features.

Bottom line - it is a numbers game. Blacks alone cannot challenge White establishment, but by amassing non-whites under the Black banner, they can better contest Whites, politically, economically and socially.


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I'm fully aware there are White Mexicans and Hispanics (some are wholly Spanish for example), however Zimmerman isn't one of them. He's a mestizo, half his heritage is Amerindian.

The media is anti-white, as it jumps to blame white Americans for crimes committed by non-whites. We've seen this before many times, exactly the same in UK and rest of Europe.


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Where the hell is Afrolunacy when you need him? He'll clear this all up by showing Zimmerman is actually white and a race war between blacks and whites will result if blacks try to kill the innocent white Zimmerman.
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[Roll Eyes] He's Mexican. But it does not matter, Blacks have convinced themselves he is white. The race war is on the horizon. LA will be child's play. This will be another Rodney King but 40x worst if it does not go to trial and they dont get a conviction. RODNEY KING REDUX ON STEROIDS.


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Where the hell is Afrolunacy when you need him? He'll clear this all up by showing Zimmerman is actually white and a race war between blacks and whites will result if blacks try to kill the innocent white Zimmerman.


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Just for amusement's sake lol...

Yte man (Zimmerman's father)

+ Peruvian (Zimmerman's mother)

= A Mexican (Zimmerman)


Absolutely ingenious; you graduated top of your class in school, didn't you....

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So, how do they link Zimmerman to Whites and dispel the fact that Latinos (or any non-white for that matter) can be racist? By focusing on Zimmerman's patrilineage, the connection is made. They can now continue to attack Whites on racial issues. As well, Blacks who've taken lead in media ignore that Zimmerman is Mexican, and swarthy complected with pronounced features.
But fool, it's the Police who wrote on their report sheet that Zimmerman is
white. You know, that line where they fill in your supposed race. And again, Zimmerman didn't object and claim he was something else. The media just reported what the Police wrote.

And again, fool, "Hispanic" does not exclude being "white". That's your culture and ethnography for you. Live with it.


I have seen photos of now departed U.S. crime fighter, the fag who ran the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover.

Based on U.S. definitions of race it was odd that he was classified as "white" and behaved like one--a mortal enemy of the very soft, forgiving, and moderate Martin Luther King. So where are the complaints about J. Edgar?

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According to Egyptsearch definitions Zimmerman is a black man even though he might have tried to pass for white

*note olmec affinities

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quote:
Originally posted by facts:
[Roll Eyes] He's Mexican. But it does not matter, Blacks have convinced themselves he is white. The race war is on the horizon. LA will be child's play. This will be another Rodney King but 40x worst if it does not go to trial and they dont get a conviction. RODNEY KING REDUX ON STEROIDS.

blacks are taking over the big cities. You should be safe as long as your posts on ES don't come to light
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All LOLs for me. Another official white U.S. icon for you. As the Americans say "the world's greatest crime buster".

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWwv2TxKUjwtH4349DWUryzFLaF_zWtGKPPU72Moz38DyWH4jNbiAWq-k

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And another official great white icon. The white Americans refer to him as "the greatest ever" and they say among themselves as I have heard: "too bad that the Babe's record had to be broken by a [sic] 'negro'"

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHOTOFILE/AABK015.jpg

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OK, seriously now. Here's the subtext to all this. It all has to do with the "image" and "presentation" of whiteness.

Zimmerman realised from way back his German name[in the U.S. it would seen as Jewish by many] worked for him in official white circles.

He could not cosy up with the cops as a "neighbourhood crime fighter" with a name like "Jose Sanchez". The next step was easy. Once your name is Zimmerman and you are sufficiently close to the racial borderline like J Edgar and Babe Ruth you just declare yourself "white".

Zimmerman was a long time customer of the Florida cops as a "white guy fighting crime".

Apparently he was, as they say, "hoisted on his own petard". It's as simple as that folks.

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No!! we don't this looked nothing like that even though both existed in the same culture.
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According to Egyptsearch definitions Zimmerman is a black man even though he might have tried to pass for white
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quote:
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But fool, it's the Police who wrote on their report sheet that Zimmerman is
white. You know, that line where they fill in your supposed race. And again, Zimmerman didn't object and claim he was something else. The media just reported what the Police wrote.

The American police is anti-white too. lol
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Get the time lines correct. He was considered white when he was being cosy with them as "crime fighter". Get it. He ran to them any number of times before this incident.
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^ Thick lips and wide noses are not an exclusive Negroid feature. Mongoloids sometimes show those traits with zero Black admixture.

Blacks have actually zero unique physical features, all are found in other races. Its just that they have the most retention for all the most primitive traits in one, while the other races only have one or two of these shared archaic features.

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Dumbo,

"Thick lips" as you call it is not an archaic feature. Whites more than any other other group have retained this simian trait.

Plus the hairiness of whites in many cases amounting to something a kin to animal pelt is a white thing. Never saw and African or East Asian with the furry pelt of a mountain silverback gorilla as you see with white men. These speciemns often come to Africa to lie on the beaches to show off their furry pelts. Not nice to look at. Kinda disgusting.

Th flat buttocks of the whites is also a primitive ape trait. Not good at all to be reminded of apes when walking among other humans.

The shorter tibia and femur of whites is also a primate trait. Reminds one that they are close er to the knuckle draggers than Africans.

And then of course there is the hair. European hair is exactly that of the Orangutan. So please when next you go to the zoo stay clear of that Orang's cage. The caged guy might just break down the cage bars with excitement at seeing a long lost cousin.

There's more but save it for another day.

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Think too of the simian ears and archaic brow of homo europaeus. The museum beckons--but more to come.
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:
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Originally posted by facts:
Bleeding heart WHITE liberalism is to fucking blame. I am sick and tired of these guilt laden Whites taking the nation to hell in a hand basket. All they do is placate to the race hustlers and poverty pimp black leaders, as well as Blacks who don't want to be held accountable. If this results in a race riot, the blame is on them.

According to the US Justice Department 2006 rape statistics, 32,443 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2005 rape statistics, 37,460 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2004 rape statistics, 11,611 white women were were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

According to the US Justice Department 2003 rape statistics, 20,309 white women were raped by black men, and zero black women were raped by white men (Table 42).

And so on. Yet the controlled media is strangely silent on the black-on-white crime plague in America.

Your states are as real as those nuclear missals of Iraq, proposed by the same lying administration!


I have seen these stats before, But do you actually believe this?lol

They suddenly seem to be continue and "steady" for a few years straight with a sudden peak, then a drop occurs all of a sudden.

I like to see the demographics. Such as where did these rapes take place. Locations, state, region of the state, environment and when, what time. Was it in locations of multi-ethnic environment or homogeneous "race"? All these questions remain unanswered by those stats.

A lot of what is known by the social scientist who do research on this, is that rapists usually know their victim (well) and that victims know the assaulter. They also state that social status is absent and it can happen anywhere.

What is known by research is the amount of "fake rapports" by these white women. At least half of it is false. Like a historical obsession. I am not excluding any rape crime. But considering the vague claims and doubtful stats without the elaboration, it seems highly unlike to be true.


I also like to know the unknown or "other". They speak of?

What is other?

Where do all these black men come from, rape these white women year after year, 33.000 thousand per year, 2750 each month (roughly 3 thousand each month). "Are they the same men, is it a gang of rapists"...who is this group of men?

Does it happen in a club, workspace.... where?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Seriously, those stats say nothing about any of this, only assumption numbers.

They should be called the department of injustice. They do have a history.


"In 93% of assaults, the rapist and survivor are of the same race."

In 3.3% of sexual assault cases, black men raped white women, while in 3.4% of the cases, white men raped black women (Tjaden, 2006).


http://www.nij.gov/pubs-sum/210346.htm


The myth of the black rapist is rooted to the racist history of our country."

http://www.ncsu.edu/womens_center/sexual/myths.php

http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=11973

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-02-02/local/27738546_1_black-men-brooklyn-nun-claim


White men or notorious known for child pornography and child abuse. Look at the sex-tourism at Thailand abusing little children having sex with them! Primitive! Disgusting! Is that wrong, I'll let you answer that...

Do you remember those white soldiers in Iraq raping Iraqi females, it was shown at CNN a while back? Was it wrong, I'll let you answer that...

And it was not a one time incident, it happened at other places as well. Look it up White boy!



Information and Resources: Sexual Assault - Myths & Facts


*Midland Rape Crisis and Children's Advocacy Center


The overwhelming majority of rapes involve persons of the same race or culture.

http://www.mrccac.org/information/mythsfacts.html


13. MYTH: MOST SEXUAL ASSAULTS INVOLVE A BLACK MAN RAPING A WHITE WOMAN.


Fact: In 93% of assaults, the rapist and victim are of the same race. In 3% of sexual assault cases black men did rape white women, while in 4% of the cases white men raped black women.


http://www.macalester.edu/sexualassault/sexualassaultmyths.html


"He usually chooses a woman of the same race. Nearly half the time, the victim knows the rapist from working or living near him."


http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/001955.htm


You mentioned "49 States" show me the demography of the black population in those states. What states are you actually referring at, how many black men live in those States? "All those other 49 States"? You do realize that some States barely have any black population or very marginal. Let alone plenty of black men to rape as many white women as is claimed.


So this opens the States with highly concentrated black / white populations. Which one are these? Why is there no mention of these States, and in these States?


**According to most estimates, 80% - 90% of rapes are not reported to police. Current trends project that 1 in 3 American women will be sexually assaulted at some point during her life.


Most commonly, the rapist is a 25 - 44-year-old man who plans his attack. He usually chooses a woman of the same race.


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001955.htm


Those stats are FAKE, considering the fact that it was during the Bush administration. Those stats are as real as the satellite images who supposed scanned the nuclear weapons in Iraq, and the fraudulent, fake, election he won. Also by the Bush administration.


http://studentaffairs.ncsu.edu/womens-center/interpersonal-violence-services/sexual-violence/realities-and-myths-sexual-violence

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:

According to Egyptsearch definitions Zimmerman is a black man even though he might have tried to pass for white


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No!! we don't this looked nothing like that even though both existed in the same culture.
Lioness
According to Egyptsearch definitions Zimmerman is a black man even though he might have tried to pass for white
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A pre-Columbian Y chromosome-specific transition and its implications for human evolutionary history

P A Underhill et al.


However, we stil cannot exclude completely the possibility that some of the DYS199C


alleles in the American populations were pre-Columbian. One Mayan male, previously shown (12) to have an African Y chromosome, had the 194-bp C haplotype.



http://olmec98.net/afmaya2.pdf


quote:


Americas Settled by Two Groups of Early Humans, Study Says

Brian Handwerk for National Geographic News
December 12, 2005

At least two distinct groups of early humans colonized the Americas, a new study says, reviving the debate about who the first Americans were and when they arrived.

Anthropologists Walter Neves and Mark Hubbe studied 81 skulls of early humans from South America and found them to be different from both modern and ancient Native Americans.

The 7,500- to 11,000-year-old remains suggest that the oldest settlers of the Americas came from different genetic stock than more recent Native Americans.

Modern Native Americans share traits with Mongoloid peoples of Mongolia, China, and Siberia, the researchers say.

But Neves and Hubbe found that dozens of skulls from Brazil appear much more similar to modern Australians, Melanesians, and Sub-Saharan Africans.


Neves and Hubbe describe their findings in this week's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Who Was First?

The scientists examined 81 skulls unearthed over many decades in Brazil's Lagoa Santa region. They represent the largest collection of early American remains, many of which had to be tracked down in European museums.

These "paleoamerican" or "paleoindian" skulls feature projecting lower jaws, broad noses, and broad eye sockets, the researchers report. These traits are unlike those of modern Native Americans.

This strongly suggests that those early Americans were in fact a distinct group, Neves says.

He adds that the group could have crossed the Bering Strait land bridge—the once-exposed landmass between Siberia and Alaska—thousands of years earlier than the Siberian populations who are believed to be the ancestors of modern Native Americans.

Other paleoamerican skulls have displayed similar traits to the Lagoa Santa skulls, which has led to controversy and differing theories about how and when the Americas were settled.

"I don't want people to think that we are proposing any kind of transoceanic migration from Africa or Australia," said Neves, of the University of Săo Paolo in Brazil.

"We know that these [paleoindian] people had reached China around 20,000 years ago. The Mongoloid population that you see in [northeast] Asia today is more recent. So we don't have to think about transoceanic migrations to explain this."

Genetic Drift

Recent genetic studies of modern human populations have also suggested multiple early migrations across the Bering land bridge.

Neves and colleagues have not been able yet to extract ancient DNA from the Lagoa Santa remains—but excavations are yielding additional ancient remains.

"We have already found at least 20 new skeletons older than 8,000 years that are not part of our paper," he said.

Still, not all scientists are convinced that the variations found in the skulls are proof of multiple migrations to the Americas.

"There is a huge amount of variation among the first Americans, more than you see among any other population outside of the Pacific," said Joseph Powell, an anthropologist at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque.

"Much of that is genetic, and it comes from the fact, I think, that these first Americans had very small colonizing populations, and they have a great degree of genetic variation due to genetic drift."

Genetic drift describes random variations in a group's genetic makeup. Small populations are especially prone to the phenomenon, because the genes of a single individual play a proportionately larger role in successive generations.

American Theories

For decades most scientists believed that the first Americans were a group of hunters, known as the Clovis people, who entered the Americas via the Bering land bridge some 11,000 to 12,000 years ago.

"I think it has become more widely accepted in the archaeological community that people were here prior to Clovis," said Michael Waters, director of the Center for the Study of First Americans at Texas A&M University in College Station.

Sites in Siberia have shown that people lived in the harsh region on the Asian of the land bridge as early as 27,000 years ago, he added.

"People could survive in that Arctic environment and survive quite well," Waters said. "There would be nothing to stop them from heading east into present-day Alaska."

Moreover, sites like Chile's Monte Verde, where tools have been dated to 12,500 years ago, have bolstered the theory that people were in the Americas before the Clovis period.

"If you look at the time periods when people could have come over by land, it must have been very late, just before Clovis, or prior to the ice sheets that formed over North America reaching their maximum extent around 20,000 years ago," Waters said.

Yet the land bridge theory no longer holds a scientific monopoly.

Some scholars favor coastal migration theories, in which early settlers hopped along the Pacific coast in boats.

More controversial theorists won't rule out the possibility of ocean crossings from Europe or Africa.

However those first Americans arrived, the remains they left behind may be the only clues that could someday tell their story.


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/pf/35168552.html


Two posts below you can read the outcry of a black woman impostor. Who taps in and out of accounts all day...

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Police report details alleged attack on Zimmerman

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/26/10868250-police-report-details-alleged-attack-on-zimmerman

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quote:
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Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:

we don't this looked nothing like that



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Cassiscoocoo
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Thick lips and wide noses are not an exclusive Negroid feature. Mongoloids sometimes show those traits with zero Black admixture. Blacks have actually zero unique physical features, all are found in other races. Its just that they have the most retention for all the most primitive traits in one, while the other races only have one or two of these shared archaic features.
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That's because there is no such thing idiot,such traits including skin color and hair type are found all over the globe you are the one using phenotype to equal "race" the subject is that of a man with what looks to be woolly haired if he had any kind of melanin to his skin which I suspect! he is a black,as for the precise geographical area outside the America's "Melenasia" Or Africa is up for grabs see TP's post.
Btw the bottom pic is one of your that you love to spam with and use as evidence as so-called "true Negroids".

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:

we don't this looked nothing like that



Repost,


However, we stil cannot exclude completely the possibility that some of the DYS199C


alleles in the American populations were pre-Columbian. One Mayan male, previously shown (12) to have an African Y chromosome, had the 194-bp C haplotype.


quote:


Americas Settled by Two Groups of Early Humans, Study Says

Brian Handwerk for National Geographic News
December 12, 2005

At least two distinct groups of early humans colonized the Americas, a new study says, reviving the debate about who the first Americans were and when they arrived.

Anthropologists Walter Neves and Mark Hubbe studied 81 skulls of early humans from South America and found them to be different from both modern and ancient Native Americans.

The 7,500- to 11,000-year-old remains suggest that the oldest settlers of the Americas came from different genetic stock than more recent Native Americans.

Modern Native Americans share traits with Mongoloid peoples of Mongolia, China, and Siberia, the researchers say.

But Neves and Hubbe found that dozens of skulls from Brazil appear much more similar to modern Australians, Melanesians, and Sub-Saharan Africans.


Neves and Hubbe describe their findings in this week's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Who Was First?

The scientists examined 81 skulls unearthed over many decades in Brazil's Lagoa Santa region. They represent the largest collection of early American remains, many of which had to be tracked down in European museums.

These "paleoamerican" or "paleoindian" skulls feature projecting lower jaws, broad noses, and broad eye sockets, the researchers report. These traits are unlike those of modern Native Americans.

This strongly suggests that those early Americans were in fact a distinct group, Neves says.

He adds that the group could have crossed the Bering Strait land bridge—the once-exposed landmass between Siberia and Alaska—thousands of years earlier than the Siberian populations who are believed to be the ancestors of modern Native Americans.

Other paleoamerican skulls have displayed similar traits to the Lagoa Santa skulls, which has led to controversy and differing theories about how and when the Americas were settled.

"I don't want people to think that we are proposing any kind of transoceanic migration from Africa or Australia," said Neves, of the University of Săo Paolo in Brazil.

"We know that these [paleoindian] people had reached China around 20,000 years ago. The Mongoloid population that you see in [northeast] Asia today is more recent. So we don't have to think about transoceanic migrations to explain this."

Genetic Drift

Recent genetic studies of modern human populations have also suggested multiple early migrations across the Bering land bridge.

Neves and colleagues have not been able yet to extract ancient DNA from the Lagoa Santa remains—but excavations are yielding additional ancient remains.

"We have already found at least 20 new skeletons older than 8,000 years that are not part of our paper," he said.

Still, not all scientists are convinced that the variations found in the skulls are proof of multiple migrations to the Americas.

"There is a huge amount of variation among the first Americans, more than you see among any other population outside of the Pacific," said Joseph Powell, an anthropologist at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque.

"Much of that is genetic, and it comes from the fact, I think, that these first Americans had very small colonizing populations, and they have a great degree of genetic variation due to genetic drift."

Genetic drift describes random variations in a group's genetic makeup. Small populations are especially prone to the phenomenon, because the genes of a single individual play a proportionately larger role in successive generations.

American Theories

For decades most scientists believed that the first Americans were a group of hunters, known as the Clovis people, who entered the Americas via the Bering land bridge some 11,000 to 12,000 years ago.

"I think it has become more widely accepted in the archaeological community that people were here prior to Clovis," said Michael Waters, director of the Center for the Study of First Americans at Texas A&M University in College Station.

Sites in Siberia have shown that people lived in the harsh region on the Asian of the land bridge as early as 27,000 years ago, he added.

"People could survive in that Arctic environment and survive quite well," Waters said. "There would be nothing to stop them from heading east into present-day Alaska."

Moreover, sites like Chile's Monte Verde, where tools have been dated to 12,500 years ago, have bolstered the theory that people were in the Americas before the Clovis period.

"If you look at the time periods when people could have come over by land, it must have been very late, just before Clovis, or prior to the ice sheets that formed over North America reaching their maximum extent around 20,000 years ago," Waters said.

Yet the land bridge theory no longer holds a scientific monopoly.

Some scholars favor coastal migration theories, in which early settlers hopped along the Pacific coast in boats.

More controversial theorists won't rule out the possibility of ocean crossings from Europe or Africa.

However those first Americans arrived, the remains they left behind may be the only clues that could someday tell their story.

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quote:
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Cassiscoocoo
quote:
Thick lips and wide noses are not an exclusive Negroid feature. Mongoloids sometimes show those traits with zero Black admixture. Blacks have actually zero unique physical features, all are found in other races. Its just that they have the most retention for all the most primitive traits in one, while the other races only have one or two of these shared archaic features.
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That's because there is no such thing idiot,such traits including skin color and hair type are found all over the globe you are the one using phenotype to equal "race" the subject is that of a man with what looks to be woolly haired if he had any kind of melanin to his skin which I suspect! he is a black,as for the precise geographical area outside the America's "Melenasia" Or Africa is up for grabs see TP's post.
Btw the bottom pic is one of your that you love to spam with and use as evidence as so-called "true Negroids".

New Evidence Puts Man In North America 50,000 Years Ago

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2004)


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Dr. Al Goodyear examining artifacts in the terrace. (Photo courtesy of University of South Carolina)


ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2004) — Radiocarbon tests of carbonized plant remains where artifacts were unearthed last May along the Savannah River in Allendale County by University of South Carolina archaeologist Dr. Albert Goodyear indicate that the sediments containing these artifacts are at least 50,000 years old, meaning that humans inhabited North American long before the last ice age.

The findings are significant because they suggest that humans inhabited North America well before the last ice age more than 20,000 years ago, a potentially explosive revelation in American archaeology.

Goodyear, who has garnered international attention for his discoveries of tools that pre-date what is believed to be humans' arrival in North America, announced the test results, which were done by the University of California at Irvine Laboratory, Wednesday (Nov .17).

"The dates could actually be older," Goodyear says. "Fifty-thousand should be a minimum age since there may be little detectable activity left."

The dawn of modern homo sapiens occurred in Africa between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago. Evidence of modern man's migration out of the African continent has been documented in Australia and Central Asia at 50,000 years and in Europe at 40,000 years. The fact that humans could have been in North America at or near the same time is expected to spark debate among archaeologists worldwide, raising new questions on the origin and migration of the human species.

"Topper is the oldest radiocarbon dated site in North America," Goodyear says. "However, other early sites in Brazil and Chile, as well as a site in Oklahoma also suggest that humans were in the Western Hemisphere as early as 30,000 years ago to perhaps 60,000."

In 1998, Goodyear, nationally known for his research on the ice age PaleoIndian cultures dug below the 13,000-year Clovis level at the Topper site and found unusual stone tools up to a meter deeper. The Topper excavation site is on the bank of the Savannah River on property owned by Clariant Corp., a chemical corporation headquartered near Basel, Switzerland. He recovered numerous stone tool artifacts in soils that were later dated by an outside team of geologists to be 16,000 years old.

For five years, Goodyear continued to add artifacts and evidence that a pre-Clovis people existed, slowly eroding the long-held theory by archaeologists that man arrived in North America around 13,000 years ago.

Last May, Goodyear dug even deeper to see whether man's existence extended further back in time. Using a backhoe and hand excavations, Goodyear's team dug through the Pleistocene terrace soil, some 4 meters below the ground surface. Goodyear found a number of artifacts similar to the pre-Clovis forms he has excavated in recent years.

Then on the last day of the last week of digging, Goodyear's team uncovered a black stain in the soil where artifacts lay, providing him the charcoal needed for radiocarbon dating. Dr. Tom Stafford of Stafford Laboratories in Boulder, Colo., came to Topper and collected charcoal samples for dating.

"Three radiocarbon dates were obtained from deep in the terrace at Topper with two dates of 50,300 and 51,700 on burnt plant remains. One modern date related to an intrusion," Stafford says. "The two 50,000 dates indicate that they are at least 50,300 years. The absolute age is not known."

The revelation of an even older date for Topper is expected to heighten speculation about when man got to the Western Hemisphere and add to the debate over other pre-Clovis sites in the Eastern United States such as Meadowcroft Rockshelter, Pa., and Cactus Hill, Va.

In October 2005, archaeologists will meet in Columbia for a conference on Clovis and the study of earliest Americans. The conference will include a day trip to Topper, which is sure to dominate discussions and presentations at the international gathering. USC's Topper: A Timeline

May, 1998 — Dr. Al Goodyear and his team dig up to a meter below the Clovis level and encounter unusual stone tools up to two meters below surface.

May 1999 — Team of outside geologists led by Mike Waters, a researcher at Texas A&M, visit Topper site and propose a thorough geological study of locality.

May 2000 — Geology study done by consultants; ice age soil confirmed for pre-Clovis artifacts.

May 2001 — Geologists revisit Topper and obtain ancient plant remains deep down in the Pleistocene terrace. OSL (optically stimulated luminescence) dates on soils above ice age strata show pre-Clovis is at least older than 14,000.

May 2002 — Geologists find new profile showing ancient soil lying between Clovis and pre-Clovis, confirming the age of ice age soils between 16,000 - 20,000 years.

May 2003 — Archaeologists continue to excavate pre-Clovis artifacts above the terrace, as well as new, significant Clovis finds.

May 2004 — Using backhoe and hand excavations, Goodyear and his team dig deeper, down into the Pleistocene terrace, some 4 meters below the ground surface. Artifacts, similar to pre-Clovis forms excavated in previous years, recovered deep in the terrace. A black stain in the soil provides charcoal for radio carbon dating.

November 2004 — Radiocarbon dating report indicates that artifacts excavated from Pleistocene terrace in May were recovered from soil that dates some 50,000 years. The dates imply an even earlier arrival for humans in this hemisphere than previously believed, well before the last ice age. DR. ALBERT C. GOODYEAR III

University of South Carolina archaeologist Albert C. Goodyear joined the South Carolina Institute of Archaeology and Anthropology in1974 and has been associated with the Research Division since 1976. He is also the founder and director of the Allendale PaleoIndian Expedition, a program that involves members of the public in helping to excavate PaleoAmerican sites in the central Savannah River Valley of South Carolina.

Goodyear earned his bachelor's degree in anthropology from the University of South Florida (1968), his master's degree in anthropology from the University of Arkansas and his doctorate in anthropology from Arizona State University (1976). He is a member of the Society for American Archaeology, the Southeastern Archaeological Conference, the Archaeological Society of South Carolina, and the Florida Anthropological Society. He has served twice as president of the Archaeological Society of South Carolina and is on the editorial board of The Florida Anthropologist and the North American Archaeologist.

Goodyear developed his interest in archaeology in the 1960s as a member of the F1orida Anthropological Society and through avocational experiences along Florida's central Gulf Coast. He wrote and published articles about sites and artifacts from that region for The Florida Anthropologist in the late 1960s. His master's thesis on the Brand site, a late PaleoIndian Dalton site in northeast Arkansas, was published in 1974 by the Arkansas Archeological Survey. At Arizona State University, he did field research on Desert Hohokam mountain hunting and gathering sites in the Lower Sonoran desert of Southern Arizona.

Goodyear, whose primary research interest has been America's earliest human inhabitants, has focused on the period of the Pleistocene-Holocene transition dating between 12,000 and 9,000 years ago.

He has taken a geoarchaeological approach to the search for deeply buried early sites by teaming up with colleagues in geology and soil science. For the past 15 years he has studied early prehistoric sites in Allendale County, S.C., in the central Savannah River Valley. These are stone tool manufacturing sites related to the abundant chert resources that were quarried in this locality.

This work has been supported by the National Park Service, the National Geographic Society, the University of South Carolina, the Archaeological Research Trust (SCIAA), the Allendale Research Fund, the Elizabeth Stringfellow Endowment Fund, Sandoz Chemical Corp. and Clariant Corp., the present owner of the site.

Goodyear is the author of over 100 articles, reports and books and regularly presents public lectures and professional papers on his PaleoIndian discoveries in South Carolina.


University Of South Carolina.

http://www.sc.edu/usctimes/PDFs/2004/Nov_18_2004.pdf

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