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Afrocentric literature claims the Danaids (the daughters of Danaus) of Greek mythology and classical literature are described by Aechylus as black or dark skinned in his 'The Suppliants'.
For this alleged passage, see verse 154.
Afrocentrics on the net claim this passage reads:
''black and smitten by the sun'' (Ivan Sertima, African presence in early Europe, p. 48).
YET NO CLASSICAL SCHOLAR TRANSLATES THIS VERSE AS SUCH.
It's just another afrocentric LIE.
The Greek for this verse is:
melanthes/ helioktupon genos,
which translates as -
’darkened by the sun’’ or ''sunburnt'' race
(translation e.g. from: Aeschylus. Aeschylus, with an English translation by Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. in two volumes. 2. Suppliant Women. Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. 1926).
How many black people SUNBURN or darken by the sun? Isn't the afrocentric retards that claim only whites sunburn and they post photos of this?
Aeschylus is thus referring to the Danaids white skin that was burnt or 'darked'.
only pale skin can 'darken'.
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being as Ethiopians are a BLACK PEOPLE, an analogy here:
quote: The name Ethiopia derived, from the Greek form, aithiopia, from the two words aitho, “I burn”, and ops, “face”. It would hence mean the colored man’s land — the land of the scorched faces.
quote: The name of Ethiopia represents the Greek word for its native inhabitants. This was “aithiops” (= “burnt appearance”), from “aitho” (I burn) and “opsis” (aspect, appearance).
quote: Ethiopia
Meaning: country of burnt faces;
quote: The name Ethiopia come from a Greek word meaning "sunburned faces."
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. by the way, just as an aside...what eediat seh that light-skinned Black People cannot sunburn...wait- neva mind, I don't even want to know....
from I've seen it happen plenty of times in my Life for mySelf....
tho never to the extent I've seen 'white' people burn by the sun- all purple and blistered and swollen and skin peeling like snake and ting.... Posts: 3446 | From: U.S. by way of JA by way of Africa | Registered: Jan 2010
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A sacred precinct near the shore in Argos. Several statues of the gods can be seen, as well as a large altar. As the play opens, DANAUS, and his fifty daughters, the maidens who compose the CHORUS, enter. Their costumes have an oriental richness about them not characteristic of the strictly Greek. They carry also the wands of suppliants. The CHORUS is singing.
CHORUS
Zeus! Lord and guard of suppliant hands Look down benign on us who crave Thine aid-whom winds and waters drave From where, through drifting shifting sands, Pours Nilus to the wave. From where the green land, god-possest, Closes and fronts the Syrian waste, We flee as exiles, yet unbanned By murder's sentence from our land; But-since Aegyptus had decreed His sons should wed his brother's seed,- Ourselves we tore from bonds abhorred, From wedlock not of heart but hand, Nor brooked to call a kinsman lord!
And Danaus, our sire and guide, The king of counsel, pond'ring well The dice of fortune as they fell, Out of two griefs the kindlier chose, And bade us fly, with him beside, Heedless what winds or waves arose, And o'er the wide sea waters haste, Until to Argos' shore at last Our wandering pinnace came- Argos, the immemorial home Of her from whom we boast to come- Io, the ox-horned maiden, whom, After long wandering, woe, and scathe, Zeus with a touch, a mystic breath, Made mother of our name. Therefore, of all the lands of earth, On this most gladly step we forth, And in our hands aloft we bear- Sole weapon for a suppliant's wear- The olive-shoot, with wool enwound! City, and land, and waters wan Of Inachus, and gods most high, And ye who, deep beneath the ground, Bring vengeance weird on mortal man, Powers of the grave, on you we cry! And unto Zeus the Saviour, guard Of mortals' holy purity! Receive ye us-keep watch and ward Above the suppliant maiden band! Chaste be the heart of this your land Towards the weak! but, ere the throng, The wanton swarm, from Egypt sprung, Leap forth upon the silted shore, Thrust back their swift-rowed bark again, Repel them, urge them to the main! And there, 'mid storm and lightning's shine, And scudding drift and thunder's roar, Deep death be theirs, in stormy brine! Before they foully grasp and win Us, maiden-children of their kin, And climb the couch by law denied, And wrong each weak reluctant bride.
strophe 1
And now on her I call, Mine ancestress, who far on Egypt's shore A young cow's semblance wore,- A maiden once, by Hera's malice changed! And then on him withal, Who, as amid the flowers the grazing creature ranged, Was in her by a breath of Zeus conceived; And, as the hour of birth drew nigh, By fate fulfilled, unto the light he came;- And Epaphus for name, Born from the touch of Zeus, the child received
antistrophe 1
On him, on him I cry, And him for patron hold- While in this grassy vale I stand, Where lo roamed of old! And here, recounting all her toil and pain, Signs will I show to those who rule the land That I am child of hers; and all shall understand, Hearing the doubtful tale of the dim past made plain.
strophe 2
And, ere the end shall be, Each man the truth of what I tell shall see. And if there dwell hard by One skilled to read from bird-notes augury, That man, when through his ears shall thrill our tearful wail, Shall deem he hears the voice, the plaintive tale Of her, the piteous spouse of Tereus, lord of guile- Whom the hawk harries yet, the mourning nightingale.
antistrophe 2
She, from her happy home and fair streams scared away, Wails wild and sad for haunts beloved erewhile. Yea, and for Itylus-ah, well-a-day! Slain by her own, his mother's hand, Maddened by lustful wrong, the deed by Tereus planned!
strophe 3
Like her I wail and wail, in soft lonian tones, And as she wastes, even so Wastes my soft cheek, once ripe with Nilus' suns, And all my heart dissolves in utter woe. Sad flowers of grief I cull, Fleeing from kinsmen's love unmerciful- Yea, from the clutching hands, the wanton crowd, I sped across the waves, from Egypt's land of cloud.
antistrophe 3
Gods of the ancient cradle of my race, Hear me, just gods! With righteous grace On me, on me look down! Grant not to youth its heart's unchaste desire, But, swiftly spurning lust's unholy fire, Bless only love and willing wedlock's crown! The war-worn fliers from the battle's wrack Find refuge at the hallowed altar-side, The sanctuary divine,- Ye gods! such refuge unto me provide- Such sanctuary be mine!
strophe 4
Though the deep will of Zeus be hard to track, Yet doth it flame and glance, A beacon in the dark, 'mid clouds of chance That wrap mankind.
antistrophe 4
Yea, though the counsel fall, undone it shall not lie, Whate'er be shaped and fixed within Zeus' ruling mind- Dark as a solemn grove, with sombre leafage shaded, His paths of purpose wind, A marvel to man's eye.
strophe 5
Smitten by him, from towering hopes degraded, Mortals lie low and still.- Tireless and effortless, works forth its will The arm divine! God from His holy seat, in calm of unarmed power, Brings forth the deed, at its appointed hour!
antistrophe 5
Let Him look down on mortal wantonness! Lo! how the youthful stock of Belus' line Craves for me, uncontrolled- With greed and madness bold- Urged on by passion's shunless stress- And, cheated, learns too late the prey has 'scaped their hold!
strophe 6
Ah, listen, listen to my grievous tale, My sorrow's words, my shrill and tearful cries! Ah woe, ah woe! Loud with lament the accents rise, And from my living lips my own sad dirges flow!
refrain 1
O Apian land of hill and dale, Thou kennest yet, O land, this faltered foreign wail- Have mercy, hear my prayer! Lo, how again, again, rend and tear My woven raiment, and from off my hair Cast the Sidonian veil!
antistrophe 6
Ah, but if fortune smile, if death be driven away, Vowed rites, with eager haste, we to the gods will pay! Alas, alas again! O whither drift the waves? and who shall loose the pain?
refrain 1
O Apian land of hill and dale, Thou kennest yet, O land, this faltered foreign wail Have mercy, hear my prayer! Lo, how again, again, I rend and tear My woven raiment, and from off my hair Cast the Sidonian veil!
strophe 7
The wafting oar, the bark with woven sail, From which the sea foamed back, Sped me, unharmed of storms, along the breeze's track- Be it unblamed of me! But ah, the end, the end of my emprise! May He, the Father, with all-seeing eyes, Grant me that end to see!
refrain 2
Grant that henceforth unstained as heretofore I may escape the forced embrace Of those proud children of the race That sacred Io bore.
antistrophe 7
And thou, O maiden-goddess chaste and pure- Queen of the inner fane- Look of thy grace on me, O Artemis, Thy willing suppliant-thine, thine it is;, Who from the lustful onslaught fled secure, To grant that I too without stain The shelter of thy purity may gain!
refrain 2
Grant that henceforth unstained as heretofore I may escape the forced embrace Of those proud children of the race That sacred Io bore!
strophe 8
Yet if this may not be, We, the dark race sun-smitten, we Will speed with suppliant wands To Zeus who rules below, with hospitable hands Who welcomes all the dead from all the lands: Yea, by our own hands strangled, we will go, Spurned by Olympian gods, unto the gods below!
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: light-skinned Black People ======
Blacks don't have light skin.
Stop with the retarded posts.
Black people are now white? LOL.
pissa bed b*tchbwoy....I neva seh that Black People are 'white'...go tek that argument to Egmond Cocktekka
Sorry to tell you, but we come in All Shades of brown from light almost 'white' to black like ah tar...
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to tell you, but we come in All Shades of color...
'color' was a mis-type that I didn't meant to type but true smaddy ring my doorbell I couldn't go right back and edit it Posts: 3446 | From: U.S. by way of JA by way of Africa | Registered: Jan 2010
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quote: another self-hating black obsessed to be white
but ah wha di rass...
go battywash yuh cocktekkin fadda yuh renk fassy...
mi love mi Black Napturalness always will and always have....I would never want to have your pale skin and lank stringy hair...
you got the wrong Black Person maama bwoy...you are referring to Confirmed Eediat...
and sorry to tell you that mampi deh that you posted is not a 'typical Black Woman'....if so, then you can agree this to be the typical 'white' gyal:
she needs to eat bout 4 patties, 2 coco bread, and a big plate of curry chicken w/ rice and peas....
and they jus need to stop eating altogether....
so you see, if your mampi picture represents the 'typical Black Woman' I will allow you to choose which of the two photos I've posted to represent the typical 'white' gyal....
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quote: another self-hating black obsessed to be white
but ah wha di rass...
go battywash yuh cocktekkin fadda yuh renk fassy...
mi love mi Black Napturalness always will and always have....I would never want to have your pale skin and lank stringy hair...
you got the wrong Black Person maama bwoy...you are referring to Confirmed Eediat...
and sorry to tell you that mampi deh that you posted is not a 'typical Black Woman'....if so, then you can agree this to be the typical 'white' gyal:
she needs to eat bout 4 patties, 2 coco bread, and a big plate of curry chicken w/ rice and peas....
and they jus need to stop eating altogether....
so you see, if your mampi picture represents the 'typical Black Woman' I will allow you to choose which of the two photos I've posted to represent the typical 'white' gyal....
all crickets alone mi hear tuh rass
WELL...CASHITERIDES WHO DEM HAVE YET TO FIND NO MATTER HOW HARD DEM AH TRY...WHICH ONE IS THE TYPICAL 'WHITE' GYAL...YOU HAVE ONLY TWO CHOICES IN MY POST ABOVE...AH WHICH....CHOOSE AND TELL MI NUH PALE MAN...MI AH WAIT PON YUH...YUH LUCKY...
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being as Ethiopians are a BLACK PEOPLE, an analogy here:
quote: The name Ethiopia derived, from the Greek form, aithiopia, from the two words aitho, “I burn”, and ops, “face”. It would hence mean the colored man’s land — the land of the scorched faces.
quote: The name of Ethiopia represents the Greek word for its native inhabitants. This was “aithiops” (= “burnt appearance”), from “aitho” (I burn) and “opsis” (aspect, appearance).
quote: Ethiopia
Meaning: country of burnt faces;
quote: The name Ethiopia come from a Greek word meaning "sunburned faces."
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MI WELL SIGHT HOW DI PALE MAN LOVE GUH ROUND CERTAIN TINGS.... Posts: 3446 | From: U.S. by way of JA by way of Africa | Registered: Jan 2010
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Afrocentric literature claims the Danaids (the daughters of Danaus) of Greek mythology and classical literature are described by Aechylus as black or dark skinned in his 'The Suppliants'.
For this alleged passage, see verse 154.
Afrocentrics on the net claim this passage reads:
''black and smitten by the sun'' (Ivan Sertima, African presence in early Europe, p. 48).
YET NO CLASSICAL SCHOLAR TRANSLATES THIS VERSE AS SUCH.
It's just another afrocentric LIE.
The Greek for this verse is:
melanthes/ helioktupon genos,
which translates as -
’darkened by the sun’’ or ''sunburnt'' race
(translation e.g. from: Aeschylus. Aeschylus, with an English translation by Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. in two volumes. 2. Suppliant Women. Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. 1926).
How many black people SUNBURN or darken by the sun? Isn't the afrocentric retards that claim only whites sunburn and they post photos of this?
Aeschylus is thus referring to the Danaids white skin that was burnt or 'darked'.
only pale skin can 'darken'.
-- Just another afrocentric lie exposed.
Is it also a lie that if one google the word Ethiopian or Ethiopia the words "sunburnt faces" is inevitably included, preceded by the words "a Greek word for".
In fact, where is there a definition on the web or in a classical dictionary that doesn't say Ethiopian meant "burnt-faced" or "sunburnt".
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Afrocentric literature claims the Danaids (the daughters of Danaus) of Greek mythology and classical literature are described by Aechylus as black or dark skinned in his 'The Suppliants'.
For this alleged passage, see verse 154.
Afrocentrics on the net claim this passage reads:
''black and smitten by the sun'' (Ivan Sertima, African presence in early Europe, p. 48).
YET NO CLASSICAL SCHOLAR TRANSLATES THIS VERSE AS SUCH.
It's just another afrocentric LIE.
The Greek for this verse is:
melanthes/ helioktupon genos,
which translates as -
’darkened by the sun’’ or ''sunburnt'' race
(translation e.g. from: Aeschylus. Aeschylus, with an English translation by Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. in two volumes. 2. Suppliant Women. Herbert Weir Smyth, Ph. D. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. 1926).
How many black people SUNBURN or darken by the sun? Isn't the afrocentric retards that claim only whites sunburn and they post photos of this?
Aeschylus is thus referring to the Danaids white skin that was burnt or 'darked'.
only pale skin can 'darken'.
-- Just another afrocentric lie exposed.
What do you think Aethiopian means if not the "burnt-face ones"? Also, last I checked the literal word for "Black" was "Melas". Therein lies the root for "Melanin", a literally Black pigment that protects our skin cells from "Helios".
This is just more Eurocentric double talk.
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What do you think Aethiopian means if not the "burnt-face ones"? ========
Precisely that.
Because in greek etiological myth - the natives of africa were WHITE MEN.
This is because the ancient greeks when first encountering black sub-saharan africans could not understand their darkness as it looked so strange to them. So they invented a myth of explaining their darkness.
It's called Phaethon's crash.
Phaethon drove his father's flaming chariot too close across Africa so it scorched the natives there (who were originally white) pitch black.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: What do you think Aethiopian means if not the "burnt-face ones"? ========
Precisely that.
Because in greek etiological myth - the natives of africa were WHITE MEN.
This is because the ancient greeks when first encountering black sub-saharan africans could not understand their darkness as it looked so strange to them. So they invented a myth of explaining their darkness.
It's called Phaethon's crash.
Phaethon drove his father's flaming chariot too close across Africa so it scorched the natives there (who were originally white) pitch black.
^If EVERYONE was supposed to be originally white, that doesn't jive with your argument that they saw "race" and excluded the Danaids from being "Black"-skinned. Both owed their condition to the sun and were thus eternally "burnt" by the sun. This doesn't describe a tan but a condition from birth, hence "genos". Your argument that Blacks don't get sun burnt therefore, is stupid, as is your reliance on that outdated and misleading translation.
You have NOT debunked Ivan van Sertima with this garbage presentation.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Truthandright is the one on the right
NAH, DAT AH YUH DUTTY YANKEE HOODRAT GRANNY YUH F*K AH NIGHT TIME AND HIDE INA YOU CLOSET INA DAY TIME....
AND YUH RENK NASSY GRANNY CLEARY NAH NUH FRENS....CAH IF SHE HAD REAL FRENS DEM NEVA WUDA MEK DAT HOT STINKIN SICKENING MESS GUH OUTTA ROAD AH LOOK SUH...
@ OTHER MEMBERS...YOU SEE SEH HIM STILL GUH ROUND DI TINGS ABOVE
MEMBA WHA DIS YUTE TELL YOU SEH:
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: What do you think Aethiopian means if not the "burnt-face ones"? ========
Precisely that.
Because in greek etiological myth - the natives of africa were WHITE MEN.
This is because the ancient greeks when first encountering black sub-saharan africans could not understand their darkness as it looked so strange to them. So they invented a myth of explaining their darkness.
It's called Phaethon's crash.
Phaethon drove his father's flaming chariot too close across Africa so it scorched the natives there (who were originally white) pitch black.
The mindset of this racist.....smh lol
Anyway,
Αἰθίοψ , οπος, ὁ, fem. Αἰθιοπίς , ίδος, ἡ （Αἰθίοψ as fem., A.Fr.328, 329): pl.
A. “Αἰθιοπῆες” Il.1.423, whence nom. “Αἰθιοπεύς” Call.Del.208: (αἴθω, ὄψ):—properly, Burnt-face, i.e. Ethiopian, negro, Hom., etc.; prov., Αἰθίοπα σμήχειν 'to wash a blackamoor white', Luc.Ind. 28. 2. a fish, Agatharch.109.
II. Adj., Ethiopian, “Αἰθιοπὶς γλῶσσα” Hdt.3.19; “γῆ” A.Fr.300, E.Fr.228.4: Subst. Αἰθιοπίς, ἡ, title of Epic poem in the Homeric cycle; also name of a plant, silver sage, Salvia argentea, Dsc.4.104:— also Αἰθιόπιος , α, ον, E.Fr.349: Αἰθιοπικός , ή, όν, Hdt., etc.; Αἰ. κύμινον, = ἄμι, Hp.Morb.3.17, Dsc. 3.62:—Subst. Αἰθιοπία , ἡ, Hdt., etc. 2. red-brown, AP7.196 (Mel.), cf. Ach. Tat.4.5.
Ps, notice how the words, Moor and Negro synonymous.
Funny is how in the ancient world all of Africa was called Aethiopia. Marinate on that one....
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