^ignoramus..cut and paste expert
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
The answer to that lies with the Egyptians themselves. When my Aunt visited Egypt the Egyptians thought she was one of them. When my cousins go they too are often thought of as an Egyptian.
Consequently I said she has typical Egyptian features.
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
quote:Originally posted by osirion:
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
The answer to that lies with the Egyptians themselves. When my Aunt visited Egypt the Egyptians thought she was one of them. When my cousins go they too are often thought of as an Egyptian.
Consequently I said she has typical Egyptian features.
Is your own family, what most people would consider typical African Americans?
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
Who has more Typical Egyptian features?
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
quote:Originally posted by osirion:
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
The answer to that lies with the Egyptians themselves. When my Aunt visited Egypt the Egyptians thought she was one of them. When my cousins go they too are often thought of as an Egyptian.
Consequently I said she has typical Egyptian features.
Is your own family, what most people would consider typical African Americans?
^ that side of my family were famous African Americans. They owned an Airport, they are featured in Museums, there are books about them, etc.
Nothing typical about them except they were treated like any other typical Negro by Whites if that is what you mean.
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
Who has more Typical Egyptian features?
I am not Egyptian so I cannot answer that except I know who they are so I know the answer.
Love the videos. In terms of phenotype, I believe that modern day Nubians are the best representation of the Ancient Egytians in terms of phenotype. Modern day indigenous Egyptians have evolved a lighter appearance than their ancestors. The Beja Sudanese are also a good example of the phenotype of the Ancients.
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
Anwar Sadat, Typical Egyptian Features or Atypical?
He looks very much like many of the depictions of ancient Egyptians. Do you not agree?
Most of your Delta Egyptians look like Asiatic invaders in terms of how the Ancients represented those people.
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
^^
How would know that Delta Egyptians are mostly Asiatic Invaders? There is a very good possibility that they have always been coastal Africans, but not Black Africans per se!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Is it full moon?
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau: ^^
How would know that Delta Egyptians are mostly Asiatic Invaders? There is a very good possibility that they have always been coastal Africans, but not Black Africans per se!
Open your eyes. Can you not see that many of the Delta Egyptians look like invaders!
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
In case nobody has noticed but Mau is a poster named Dirk under a new screen name. He has adopted a more diplomatic approach to spread his message. I will not silence his opinion but be aware most of his/her posts are cut and paste instead of original thought.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Osirion, Sadat's father was a Bahari from the Delta. Ironically, his father was from the same village that produced Mubarak abd Shiekh Abdel Rahman.
Egyptians in the Delta area are often as white in color but also as dark as many Sa3eedi Egyptians.
Modern Egypt is a heterogenous population with no uniform phenotype. Its really impossible to isolate any one phenotype in Egypt because there is variation even within families.
This is why I believe we should learn to distinguish modern Egypt from ancient Egypt. The only thing worth discussing is any cultural ties modern Egyptians may have with ancient Egypt.
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Osirion, Sadat's father was a Bahari from the Delta. Ironically, his father was from the same village that produced Mubarak abd Shiekh Abdel Rahman.
Egyptians in the Delta area are often as white in color but also as dark as many Sa3eedi Egyptians.
Modern Egypt is a heterogenous population with no uniform phenotype. Its really impossible to isolate any one phenotype in Egypt because there is variation even within families.
This is why I believe we should learn to distinguish modern Egypt from ancient Egypt. The only thing worth discussing is any cultural ties modern Egyptians may have with ancient Egypt.
Most Arabs can tell who is an Egyptian, without even hearing them speak their unique dialect, "Egyptian Arabic". The lighter Egyptians tend to be more European Looking than most Gulf Arabs.
The ancient Egyptians are not extinct, but have rather expanded their reach into Modern Egypt and Beyond.
Ancient Egypt was just as mixed as its modern counterpart, if not evenmoreso.
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
Mau
Don't take this the wrong way, but what proof do you have that states that Ancient Egypt was just as "mixed" as Modern Egypt?
Peace
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
quote:Originally posted by KING: Mau
Don't take this the wrong way, but what proof do you have that states that Ancient Egypt was just as "mixed" as Modern Egypt?
Peace
You don't have to be an Einstien to see how the Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves with a great variety of colors, features, and stature. Granted, there was an ideal artistic form for showing Egyptians, but this was more fantasy than reality. How many people do you know that actually have "Red Skin"?
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
Mau
What you fail to understand is that Ancient Egypt in the Old Kingdom was symbolic. They painted Women in a Lighter hue because they were the weaker sex. Brown was the Norm in that time for the Men....Women were not really yellow in color. Also they did not paint themselves with red paint...Thats just false they used reddish Brown, Dark Brown to show there people
In the New Kingdom we see women and men painted in Brown paint to signify Equality with there Husbands we see this most of all in the 18th Dynasty where we have King Tuts Chair which shows Tut and His wife in Dark Brown color See for yourself:
So what you are claiming is just wrong. Eyeballin is not really good enough to dictate whether AE was mixed or not.
Peace
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Mau, that is conjecture like most of what you have posted. The burden of proof is on you to prove unbroken phenotype of ancient to modern Egypt. I am aware that you can distinguish a gulf arab from an Egyptian by dialect. I can also distinguish individual Egyptians this way. Saidi Egyptian is very different from Bahari Arabic.
Also you have a tendency to exaggerate the ''european'' phenotype in Egypt but ignore that most Egyptians tend to be brown. Notice I said brown. This gives me the impression you may be either a pale Egyptian or a Mediterranean white who seeks to make Egypt as an extension of the Europe.
Plus there is no evidence that ancient Egypt was as mixed as modern Egypt untill at least the New Kingdom.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
I have to agree with Mau here ancient Kemetians were mixed but mostly with other Africans.
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
Wooden Mask from Ancient Egypt This very beautiful face mask comes from the inner coffin of a large ancient Egyptian sarcophagus, dated at around 1305-946 B.C. The red paint was painted over a layer of gesso and linen. Recently acquired by the Merrin Gallery, the broad oval face has a delicately carved mouth indented at the corners.
The lips are outlined and almost form a smile. The nose is straight with recessed nostrils. The eyes are set wide apart and the cosmetic lines are emphasized in black, which of course was the custom of the day, but also makes this ancient work of art very powerful. The face is very sensitive and the artist who sculpted it, over 3,000 years ago, was clearly a master artist.
Samuel Merrin presents another recently acquired, interesting ancient Egyptian piece. But for more information on this polychrome wooden mask, please visit the Merrin Gallery's website.
Posted by Mau (Member # 18613) on :
King,
quote:
Also they did not paint themselves with red paint...Thats just false
It seems that you have just defeated yourself.
Posted by KING (Member # 9422) on :
Mau
One bust does not prove anything...How have I defeated my self?
Look at these Bust:
Now what point were you trying to make?
Peace
Posted by multisphinx (Member # 3595) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Osirion, Sadat's father was a Bahari from the Delta. Ironically, his father was from the same village that produced Mubarak abd Shiekh Abdel Rahman.
Egyptians in the Delta area are often as white in color but also as dark as many Sa3eedi Egyptians.
Modern Egypt is a heterogenous population with no uniform phenotype. Its really impossible to isolate any one phenotype in Egypt because there is variation even within families.
This is why I believe we should learn to distinguish modern Egypt from ancient Egypt. The only thing worth discussing is any cultural ties modern Egyptians may have with ancient Egypt.
Well said! Ausur.
Posted by Calabooz (Member # 18238) on :
Stupid post. First of all, you say that they had a variety of colors, which is true. Secondly, you say that this variety is a sign of them being "mixed". So I ask you, what evidence do you have of substantial non-African admixture in ancient Egypt? I'll tell you what though, modern Egypt is probably more diverse due to admixture, which means they are mixed. Your logic is self defeating, ancient Egyptian features were a subset of African diversity, not admixture. I can't say the same about modern Egypt, however.
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
quote:Originally posted by KING: Mau
Don't take this the wrong way, but what proof do you have that states that Ancient Egypt was just as "mixed" as Modern Egypt?
Peace
You don't have to be an Einstien to see how the Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves with a great variety of colors, features, and stature. Granted, there was an ideal artistic form for showing Egyptians, but this was more fantasy than reality. How many people do you know that actually have "Red Skin"?
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
quote:Originally posted by KING: Mau
Don't take this the wrong way, but what proof do you have that states that Ancient Egypt was just as "mixed" as Modern Egypt?
Peace
You don't have to be an Einstien to see how the Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves with a great variety of colors, features, and stature. Granted, there was an ideal artistic form for showing Egyptians, but this was more fantasy than reality. How many people do you know that actually have "Red Skin"?
A lot of African Americans (including myself) have red skin. Not sure I am following you. It is a Brownish Red and very common amongst the Upper Egyptians today. Many Libyans and Sudanese are also this color.
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
Wooden Mask from Ancient Egypt This very beautiful face mask comes from the inner coffin of a large ancient Egyptian sarcophagus, dated at around 1305-946 B.C. The red paint was painted over a layer of gesso and linen. Recently acquired by the Merrin Gallery, the broad oval face has a delicately carved mouth indented at the corners.
The lips are outlined and almost form a smile. The nose is straight with recessed nostrils. The eyes are set wide apart and the cosmetic lines are emphasized in black, which of course was the custom of the day, but also makes this ancient work of art very powerful. The face is very sensitive and the artist who sculpted it, over 3,000 years ago, was clearly a master artist.
Samuel Merrin presents another recently acquired, interesting ancient Egyptian piece. But for more information on this polychrome wooden mask, please visit the Merrin Gallery's website.
Same features as Sadat. You are not trying to claim that to be Caucasian are you?
You should compare to how Europeans depict themselves. They exaggerate the height of the nose bridge and their brow significantly in their depictions of themselves.
This bust is an example of Horn African features and nothing more.
Posted by osirion (Member # 7644) on :
^ quick google hit on Horn Africans
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
Wooden Mask from Ancient Egypt This very beautiful face mask comes from the inner coffin of a large ancient Egyptian sarcophagus, dated at around 1305-946 B.C. The red paint was painted over a layer of gesso and linen. Recently acquired by the Merrin Gallery, the broad oval face has a delicately carved mouth indented at the corners.
The lips are outlined and almost form a smile. The nose is straight with recessed nostrils. The eyes are set wide apart and the cosmetic lines are emphasized in black, which of course was the custom of the day, but also makes this ancient work of art very powerful. The face is very sensitive and the artist who sculpted it, over 3,000 years ago, was clearly a master artist.
Samuel Merrin presents another recently acquired, interesting ancient Egyptian piece. But for more information on this polychrome wooden mask, please visit the Merrin Gallery's website.
Hey Angry Afrangi. That face with its complexion would still be considered 'black' today, or a "darky" as what Afrangi like you like to call them.
The features by the way are no different from many other Africans.
So tell us crazy Khawaga, what is atypical about these Egyptians below?
LOL Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
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Posted by Peter Franklin (Member # 18676) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau:
Wooden Mask from Ancient Egypt This very beautiful face mask comes from the inner coffin of a large ancient Egyptian sarcophagus, dated at around 1305-946 B.C. The red paint was painted over a layer of gesso and linen. Recently acquired by the Merrin Gallery, the broad oval face has a delicately carved mouth indented at the corners.
The lips are outlined and almost form a smile. The nose is straight with recessed nostrils. The eyes are set wide apart and the cosmetic lines are emphasized in black, which of course was the custom of the day, but also makes this ancient work of art very powerful. The face is very sensitive and the artist who sculpted it, over 3,000 years ago, was clearly a master artist.
Samuel Merrin presents another recently acquired, interesting ancient Egyptian piece. But for more information on this polychrome wooden mask, please visit the Merrin Gallery's website.
That's interesting for you to draw a comparison with ancient art and not just today's photos! Did you get that from the blog of a " Samuel Merrin", or somewhere else
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
Why is it this question is being asked every somewhat.... month?
Anyway are you speaking of present-day or during ancient days.
Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature
Michelle H. Raxter1,*, Christopher B. Ruff2, Ayman Azab3, Moushira Erfan3, Muhammad Soliman3, Aly El-Sawaf3
"We also compare Egyptian body proportions to those of modern American Blacks and Whites... Long bone stature regression equations were then derived for each sex. Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites, proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical... Intralimb indices are not significantly different between Egyptians and American Blacks...brachial indices are definitely more ‘African’... There is no evidence for significant variation in proportions among temporal or social groupings; thus, the new formula may be broadly applicable to ancient Egyptian remains." ("Stature estimation in ancient Egyptians: A new technique based on anatomical reconstruction of stature." Michelle H. Raxter, Christopher B. Ruff, Ayman Azab, Moushira Erfan, Muhammad Soliman, Aly El-Sawaf,(Am J Phys Anthropol. 2008, Jun;136(2):147-5
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
Egypt is composed out of different tribes/ ethnic backgrounds. So it a bit hard to say typical. But you will find certain characteristics. Which are Northeast African.
One should know that a lot of invasions have taken place in that region over the course of thousands of years.
But indigenously seen:
An Examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development?
Homo. 2009;60(5):389-404. Epub 2009 Sep 19.
Godde K. Department of Anthropology, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, 250 South Stadium Hall, Knoxville, TN 37996, USA. kgodde@utk.edu
"The clustering of the Nubian and Egyptian samples together supports this paper's hypothesis and demonstrates that there may be a close relationship between the two populations. This relationship is consistent with Berry and Berry (1972), among others, who noted a similarity between Nubians and Egyptians. If Nubians and Egyptians were not biologically similar, one would expect the scores to separately cluster by population (e.g. Nubians compared to Nubians would have small biological distances, and Nubians compared to Egyptians would have high biological distances). However, this was not the case in the current analysis and the Results suggest homogeneity between the two populations."
And here is former Miss Egypt: Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
If we have to go the studies....their features are similar to those in the South and those of "central" Egypt. With the difference of being lighter complected.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Actually it depends on where you go in Egypt. There is a North to South Incline of Skin Gradation with the North(Cairo and Alexandia) being the lightest and the South(Luxor and Aswan) being darker.
Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
^Error correction: If we have to go "by" the studies...
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
The features of the Egyptians is that of other Nilotic/East African population.
Remember that Puntites(East africans) were depicted almost similar to the Egyptians.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ma-ass: Genetic studies have already shown that the population of Egypt today is very similar to the Ancient Pyramids builders Blah Blah
Yep. Correct the Egyptians who built the Pyramids are similar to the Egyptians of Today...
The Original Egyptians are still there.
Finally the Afranji Muktaba Mongol says something intelligent.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ LOL
Here is a picture of a man from rural Giza.
^ No doubt, he is no different from his ancient ancestors who built the pyramids not like the Afrangi who rule Egypt.
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
Queen ahmose/ Nefertari
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
TYPICAL ANCIENT EGYPTIAN FEATURES
Thutmose III
Thutmose III
Ramesses II
Ramesses
AmenemhatIII
Userkaf
Userkaf
Posted by Watu (Member # 18671) on :
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Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
I always feel that western cameramen and women pan away from Blacks in a crowd. Only if this Black person is a leader or a spokesperson, he will be filmed. Its like when normally we will not film a disabled or obviously sick or disturbed person. I remember filming a white Dutch man eating out of garbage cans and some bystanders taking offence at that. I was just returning the favour as the Dutch would film things in Suriname we do not like to be filmed, especially as it misrepresents Surinam. And why should Egyptians all conform to the same type? Are all these different Americans less American because of the shape of their noses?
The essentially white looking Egyptians are descendents of Turks, but have long time become Egyptians.
The problem with Islamised Blacks is that they have learned to scorn their blackness.
Posted by Apocalypse (Member # 8587) on :
I did the following google image search:"people of Aswan Egypt" Since they are probably most representive of Ancient Egyptians- unlike the Arabs and Turks of Cairo and Alexandria. Click on the link below which displays the results.
quote:Originally posted by Apocalypse: I did the following google image search:"people of Aswan Egypt" Since they are probably most representive of Ancient Egyptians- unlike the Arabs and Turks of Cairo and Alexandria. Click on the link below which displays the results.
^Yes you're correct quite a few non-native Egyptians made it down to Aswan also. The images on the google page I submitted above however are more representative of the Ancient Egyptian population.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Apocalypse: I did the following google image search:"people of Aswan Egypt" Since they are probably most representive of Ancient Egyptians- unlike the Arabs and Turks of Cairo and Alexandria. Click on the link below which displays the results.
Exactly, the Arab and Turk invaders posted by Watu do not represent the Egyptians like those found in Luxor and Aswan and Lower Sudan.
Philea
Aswan
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^look he's sad and happy at the same time
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
A. Egyptian Beauties
An Arab b#tch calling herself Egyptian
Posted by Apocalypse (Member # 8587) on :
Jari wrote:
quote:Exactly, the Arab and Turk invaders posted by Watu do not represent the Egyptians like those found in Luxor and Aswan and Lower Sudan.
Exactly.
Lioness, your comment is odd but very observant. I must say i agree with you. A smile coaxed from sadness.
Posted by Apocalypse (Member # 8587) on :
Jari wrote:
quote:An Arab b#tch calling herself Egyptian
A beautiful woman nonetheless IMO. Admittedly, Turk or Arabic.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
The assumption is made that you can tell who is Turk or Arabic rather than African. The paintings that Jari put up are indeed authentic Egyptian. But look at the below sculpture of Thutmose III. It's authentic also. Now apply your he's a Turk he's an Arab methods. Using those methods he turns out to be a "Turk" or an "Arab"
^^^^This is why. while it's politically useful to say all the ancient Egyptians all were African I just can't bring myself to do it because this person is just so un-African looking to me. It looks like a European keep it real. And there are many more sculptures like this as well as others that do look African. Why would I want to associate myself with Thutmose III? He was one of the biggest imperialists of the ancient world and I am of West African descent anyway. After seeing so many sculptures that look un-African like Thutmose III it leads me to believe the ancient Egyptians were comprised of people from the Sudan mixed with people of the Mediterranean and Levant from the earliest foundations.
___________________^^^^^^look at this you telling me this person is an African?
Ramesses II ^^^you're telling me this looks like an African person to you? not
If you want to claim all the Pharaohs before the late period were all of African ancestry it is no different than Egmond with his black Saxon thing.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Apocalypse: Jari wrote:
quote:An Arab b#tch calling herself Egyptian
A beautiful woman nonetheless IMO. Admittedly, Turk or Arabic.
She's beautiful but I perfer darker to Light brown women.
I don't really think she is a "B" but Im sick of people denying the Aswani and Luxor type Egyptians their heritage.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: The assumption is made that you can tell who is Turk or Arabic rather than African. The paintings that Jari put up are indeed authentic Egyptian. But look at the below sculpture of Thutmose III. It's authentic also. Now apply your he's a Turk he's an Arab methods. Using those methods he turns out to be a "Turk" or an "Arab"
Selecting one Photo of Tuthmose won't help you. Logically there was not Turks or Arabs in A. Egypt. The Turks were still in the Steppes and the Arabs could barely figure out that camels can transport them across their sand Dunes.
Thuthmose was an Egyptian
Sorry but your Bird Brain Spin Tactic wont work here..
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: ^^^^This is why. while it's politically useful to say all the ancient Egyptians all were African I just can't bring myself to do it because this person is just so un-African looking to me. It looks like a European keep it real.
Dumb Brid Brain has been on year for almost two years, seen the pics of native Dark Egyptians with those features, seen the Posts etc. yet this bird brain-dead fool is still stuck on stupid.
NO DUMMY he does not Look European, as He was a Tropically adapted Dark Brown skinned african, as his features existed in Africa before Europeans existed.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: And there are many more sculptures like this as well as others that do look African. Why would I want to associate myself with Thutmose III? He was one of the biggest imperialists of the ancient world and I am of West African descent anyway.
^^^^^^ Honestly who gives a F-ck what you think. Get the f off the site then, what are you waiting on. Like I said I made threads about West african and your ass has YET to post in them bitch.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: After seeing so many sculptures that look un-African like Thutmose III it leads me to believe the ancient Egyptians were comprised of people from the Sudan mixed with people of the Mediterranean and Levant from the earliest foundations.
___________________^^^^^^look at this you telling me this person is an African?
One Cherry picked Image and some B.S Negro V. Caucasian logic and this Bitch suddenly disproves Genetic, Anthropological, and other conclusions that debunk any idea of a non Indigenous development of Egypt.
Dumb Bird Brain-dead bitch.
Posted by Watu (Member # 18671) on :
Those people are Mulattoes, not pure Negrids.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
Ramesses II ^^^you're telling me this looks like an African person to you? not
If you want to claim all the Pharaohs before the late period were all of African ancestry it is no different than Egmond with his black Saxon thing.
19th Dynasty...
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
These are two of the most famous Pharaohs of all time. Anybody who thinks they look African is out of their mind. So what if they had brown skin. I could show you ten million middle Eastern/Mediterranean people who have brown skin and you would not say are African looking. You've got a double standard. Yo go around saying Egyptians are not Egyptian they are Turk or Arabs. Then when much of the ancient art is pulled out that criteria falls apart.
Here's a Turk for reference
Cartonage mummy mask of High Egyptian Official Middle Kingdom 2000-1980 BCE
do Africans sport Mustaches?
Thutmose III wasn't black get over it
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
These are two of the most famous Pharaohs of all time. Anybody who thinks they look African is out of their mind. So what if they had brown skin. I could show you ten million middle Eastern/Mediterranean people who have brown skin and you would not say are African looking. You've got a double standard. Yo go around saying Egyptians are not Egyptian they are Turk or Arabs. Then when much of the ancient art is pulled out that criteria falls apart.
Thutmose III wasn't black get over it
sorry Bitch you are not spinning out of this one...
Selecting one Photo of Tuthmose won't help you. Logically there was not Turks or Arabs in A. Egypt. The Turks were still in the Steppes and the Arabs could barely figure out that camels can transport them across their sand Dunes.
Thuthmose was an Egyptian
You're cherry picked images means nothing...
Tuthmose was Black, Get over it..
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
what's cherry picked? These are authentic sculptures from ancient Egypt of some of the most famous Egyptians of all time. How are they "cherry picked" ? "Cherry picked" for what??
Here's another Thutmose III
this ain't no African, hell no. Brown skin? That makes you an African? I can show you Southern Italians with brown skin, Greeks, Palestinians etc. This is probably someone of Levantine background or predecessor of Turks or Arabs or Mediterraneans, people to the North of the African continent.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: as if you don't cherry pick, lol
Here's another Thutmose III
this ain't no African. This is probably someone of Levantine background or predecessor of Turks or Arabs or Mediterraneans, people to the North of the African continent.
sorry Bitch you are not spinning out of this one...
Selecting one Photo of Tuthmose won't help you. Logically there was not Turks or Arabs in A. Egypt. The Turks were still in the Steppes and the Arabs could barely figure out that camels can transport them across their sand Dunes.
Thuthmose was an Egyptian
You're cherry picked images means nothing...
Tuthmose was Black, Get over it..
Sorry Bitch you lose!!! Once again!!!
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Posted by Watu (Member # 18671) on :
LOL, it matters were in egypt u are at, bahri and biladi are two different people. Upper and Lower egypt is still in affect today.
I thought u all were smart you cant compare ancient egyptian wall paintings and statues with todays modern population especially Bahri egyptians who are not even egyptian.
You can tell the afriki in most egyptians even those in bahri u need to look very closely.
Watu that guy is not even 1% ya hayawan
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
The people of South Africa Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
The Above has nothins to do with this But they claimed it anyway and even fantasying about their deep connection to it. Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
The Lioness has Fled!!! the Fear of His magesty has entered her heart....She is Terrified!!!
His majesty went forth in a chariot of electrum, arrayed in his weapons of war, like Horus, the Smiter, lord of power; like Montu of Thebes, while his father, Amon, strengthened his arms. The southern wing of this army of his majesty was on a hill south of the [brook of] Kina, the norther wing was at the northwest of Megiddo, while his majesty was in their center, with Amon as the protection of his members, the valor of his limbs. Then his majesty prevailed against them at the head of his army, and when they saw his majesty prevailing against them they fled headlong to Megiddo in fear, abandoning their horses and their chariots of gold and silver. -Royal Scribe Djemeni, Battle of Meggido.
Posted by Delneter (Member # 18733) on :
*BREAKING NEWS* - Library of Congress photo shows the Sphynx before it was altered! Definite African/Negroid features (wide nose, HUGE Lips)! R.I.P. Ivan Van Sertima!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Mau: What are these so called "Typical Egyptian Features"?
Mau - You ignorant lying Turk Sand Nigger, you ask a false question. Egyptians have NOTHING to do with YOU people. The correct question is "WHY DO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE LOOK "EXACTLY" ALIKE?????
Answer: THEY ARE "ALL" TURKS!
And just in case you want to start this nonsense again, I will start a thread for you to reference.
TURKEY
IRAQ
IRAN
SAUDI ARABIA
LIBYAN, BAHRAINI, YEMENI
SYRIAN
LEBANON
PALESTINE
Posted by Apocalypse (Member # 8587) on :
Jari wrote:
quote:The Lioness has Fled!!! the Fear of His magesty has entered her heart....She is Terrified!!!
Lol! Do you get to keep lioness's tail as a trophy?
She's a good sport and doesn't seem to mind all the attacks.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
^^^ LOL, Lioness is fun to debate!! I hope yall don't take me serious all the time..lol
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! [/QB]
^^^some similarity. But the kid's nose is roundish on the end and points downward. Thutmose's nose sticks straight out, plus is head is roundish. back to the drawing board. This kid might be half Arab anyway.
^^^^look at this, that aint no negroid
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
__________________________look at this kid^^^^^
pretty close to Akhenaten
Mike you screwed up, wtf
jari, thoughts?.... you bitch
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: similarity. But the kid's nose is roundish on the end and points downward. Thutmose's nose sticks straight out, plus is head is roundish. back to the drawing board. This kid might be half Arab anyway.
^^^^look at this, that aint no negroid
What are you talking about his nose is the same as Tuthmose's. You f-ked up when you posted that image...lol. Dumb Bird Brain-dead bitch.
Also what proof do you have that the Kid is "Half Arab"
^^^^^ In that case the above man might be half Kenyan!!!
Dumb Bird Brain-dead bitch.
You lost, your bleats and attempts to comeback after you f-d up posting that image of Tuthmose wont work!!
You will have to take this as a loss..
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
__________________________look at this kid^^^^^
pretty close to Akhenaten
Mike you screwed up, wtf
jari, thoughts?.... you bitch
quote:Originally posted by the lion: [QUOTE] No sane person would call Barack Hussein Obama white. Anybody who saw him on the street with no foreknowledge would say that he's black.
Another Loss for the Brain-dead bird!!!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
this kid is only part African
like this guy:
1/2 of Obama's genes, plus more resemblance than to his father: Ann Dunham predominantly of English descent with some German and Irish descent.
Posted by Watu (Member # 18671) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
__________________________look at this kid^^^^^
pretty close to Akhenaten
Mike you screwed up, wtf
jari, thoughts?.... you bitch
He does......... Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
^^^^^ In that case the above man might be half Kenyan!!!
so.....
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Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Tuthmose the European???
The Euronut Wet Dream is Crushed by the Nile Valley African, Menkheperre AKA Tuthmose!!
__________^^^^^^ __________Thick Lips and Nose is Tuthmose a "Negrid"-a Debunked obsolete term???
^^^^^^ Thuthmose comapared to a Pristine descendant of the A. Egyptians...
unlike
The Mulatto Egyptian(s) ^^^^^^^^
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: this kid is only part African
like this guy:
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: The assumption is made that you can tell who is Turk or Arabic rather than African. The paintings that Jari put up are indeed authentic Egyptian. But look at the below sculpture of Thutmose III. It's authentic also. Now apply your he's a Turk he's an Arab methods. Using those methods he turns out to be a "Turk" or an "Arab"
^^^^This is why. while it's politically useful to say all the ancient Egyptians all were African I just can't bring myself to do it because this person is just so un-African looking to me. It looks like a European keep it real. And there are many more sculptures like this as well as others that do look African. Why would I want to associate myself with Thutmose III? He was one of the biggest imperialists of the ancient world and I am of West African descent anyway. After seeing so many sculptures that look un-African like Thutmose III it leads me to believe the ancient Egyptians were comprised of people from the Sudan mixed with people of the Mediterranean and Levant from the earliest foundations.
___________________^^^^^^look at this you telling me this person is an African?
Ramesses II ^^^you're telling me this looks like an African person to you? not
If you want to claim all the Pharaohs before the late period were all of African ancestry it is no different than Egmond with his black Saxon thing.
I think you better come down from the North Pole if you don't think Ramses looks like many modern Ethiopian and even Nubian men - wack.
Santa Claus may look like you, but not any of the Ramsessids. Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ LOL She's just mad because the Egyptians still looked *whisper* BLACK no matter if their noses were long and straight. Posted by Mugisha (Member # 6729) on :
^^ Ancient Egyptians that is. Live in the future, not the past! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
I think you better come down from the North Pole if you don't think Ramses looks like many modern Ethiopian and even Nubian men - wack.
Santa Claus may look like you, but not any of the Ramsessids. [/QB]
dana you're high again this does not look like an Ethiopian
Ramses II, age 14
^^^^the guy looks very European if we are being honest. Oh no it can't be. The Egyptian's genius belongs to us, black people, they can't take away Egypt, they copied all our sh!t from there. I don't care about their sh!t and what they copied. Why do we constantly have to compare and react to the so called "white man" ?? No this person does not look Ethiopian.I don't need the Egyptians for my self esteem.
Look honey here's some Ethiopians:
they are beautiful but don't look like Ramses II They tend to have long narrow heads and fuller lips. The Ramses II sculpture has a very roundish head shape like Thutmose and his lips are thin. .
Now let's look at some Europeans who have that roundish type head and small features. How about a Romanian, Pole or Russian? As far as looks go they tend to look more like this particular sculpture. Look:
These people are more in the realm of looking like The Ramses II sculpture
1)roundish or squarish heads rather than heads that look significantly more long than they do wide
2)thin lips
3)narrow noses, small nostrils
I'm not saying that Ramses II was Romanian, Polish or Russian. We are talking about an earlier period of Eurasian history where those terms don't apply but there were predecessors of these people in Central Asia. Yet you mentioned "modern Ethiopians". So if we are talking modern, then this sculpture of Ramses II looks more European than African and so does the most famous Thutmose sculpture mentioned earlier. What is the explanation for this? I don't know. But I don't lie to myself. Many of these ancient Egyptians looked more European or Arab than they did African. Others looked African yes indeed. But I'm sorry I'm not a racial purist.
Any fool can see that Egypt is situated where that small piece of land connects Eurasia and Africa. Naturally a wide variety of people would be focused into this bottlenecked land crossing moving in and out of these continents right at that point, back and forth even in pre-dynastic times. This was so common that the racism we know today would not have developed in such a multi national hub between the continents. The type of racism we experience today comes out of people living in relatively more isolated conditions over long periods of time where they forget the other people are human and then they exploit them. But ancient Egypt was the opposite of that and people would freely mingle of all different types. But these days in our racilized world we are supposed to choose sides and then view everything through one narrow lens.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ The only one who must be high is YOU to think Ramsese features are "European" only as I personally have seen many Africans with his features.
And here is Ramses (same features only this time with color).
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Now put this man in a blue crown and whaallaa Btw these guys are from the Great lakes region the Rendilli and the Tusti that is.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
^^^^ Brada Lioness likes to cherry pick images. I already posted various Images of Tuthmose and an Image of Ramses and compared them to Aswani and other Pristine Egyptians. We don't need to go thousands or even Hundreds of Miles away from Egypt when the native people of Aswan, resemble the pharoahs.
I find it funny how people ignore and deny the black modern Egyptians their rights to A. Egypt. even going as far as to say or imply they are mixed with no proof(but don't say a dam thing about the Cairian and Alexandrian Egyptians who are heavily mixed with Greek, Persian, arab, and Turk blood.) How racist and convenient, the Cairan and Alexandrian Egyptians are Pure, but the Black Egyptians who resemble the Ancients more are Mixed...How funny.
Why does this bitch who claims to only care about West Africa still post here anyway. shoo bitch.
Like Dana said Ramses reminds me of an Aswani or Beja.
BTW, where there so called Eurasian Whites in Kmt, sure. But there were blacks in Greece and Rome but I have yet to see lioness rant about how the Greeks(With their fair share of African DNA) were Multiracial Rainbow society.
When it comes to greeks who have Negroid features the bitch will make sure she hunts down a White man with a wide Nose and Thick lips that she cosiders Negroid but with the Egyptians blacks have to have thick blubery lips and the widest nose on Earth, No blacks with so called fine features exist. Typical Euronut tactic.
Posted by Apocalypse (Member # 8587) on :
What I find amazing about this picture is that the AE's pretty much captured the tropical body proportions.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Jeri I used the folks from the Great lakes region because I believe it was one of the areas of migration into Kemet proper remember this area holds great religious importance to the Kemites as Gods lands as the source of the Nile and the ancestors and the mountains of the moon and comparacion below is spot on. Posted by Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by Ma-ass: Genetic studies have already shown that the population of Egypt today is very similar to the Ancient Pyramids builders Blah Blah
Yep. Correct the Egyptians who built the Pyramids are similar to the Egyptians of Today...
The Original Egyptians are still there.
Finally the Afranji Muktaba Mongol says something intelligent.
Nice pictures here.
Posted by multisphinx (Member # 3595) on :
This thread is pointless! Modern Egyptians do not have a particular look. It varies from city to city. You will find a wide spectrum of phenotypes. It all depends on the history of migrations of foreign settlers of that city/region.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Multisphinx off course this thread is pointless this is like asking what the average Brooklynite looks like.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by multisphinx: This thread is pointless! Modern Egyptians do not have a particular look. It varies from city to city. You will find a wide spectrum of phenotypes. It all depends on the history of migrations of foreign settlers of that city/region.
Of course. All intelligent people know this. It is the ignorant stupid ones like Abozo the Clown and Lyinass who don't get it.
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ Brada Lioness likes to cherry pick images. I already posted various Images of Tuthmose and an Image of Ramses and compared them to Aswani and other Pristine Egyptians. We don't need to go thousands or even Hundreds of Miles away from Egypt when the native people of Aswan, resemble the pharoahs.
I find it funny how people ignore and deny the black modern Egyptians their rights to A. Egypt. even going as far as to say or imply they are mixed with no proof(but don't say a dam thing about the Cairian and Alexandrian Egyptians who are heavily mixed with Greek, Persian, arab, and Turk blood.) How racist and convenient, the Cairan and Alexandrian Egyptians are Pure, but the Black Egyptians who resemble the Ancients more are Mixed...How funny.
Why does this bitch who claims to only care about West Africa still post here anyway. shoo bitch.
Like Dana said Ramses reminds me of an Aswani or Beja.
BTW, where there so called Eurasian Whites in Kmt, sure. But there were blacks in Greece and Rome but I have yet to see lioness rant about how the Greeks(With their fair share of African DNA) were Multiracial Rainbow society.
When it comes to greeks who have Negroid features the bitch will make sure she hunts down a White man with a wide Nose and Thick lips that she cosiders Negroid but with the Egyptians blacks have to have thick blubery lips and the widest nose on Earth, No blacks with so called fine features exist. Typical Euronut tactic.
LOL You know this bitch is just a troll right. She admitted that herself on another thread. This is why you should never take her seriously, and just use her as an example to educate others like the little attention whore that she is.
By the way, it's obvious that she is WHITE also since no black person (of sane mind) would be so bias against Africa and African people like her.
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