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Princess Andromeda who was an Ethiopian princess is portrayed "white" in the film. When will the white-washing of other non-whites culture stop?
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^What a damn idiot! Ethiopia back then was not what it is today. Ethopia of the titans was an area near present-day Jordan and Egypt, fvckturd! Y'all are some real funny people! who are desperately trying to beg the white man to write you into his history (LOL). Simply pathetic!
If you knew any damn history, you'd know there was NEVER some king named Cepheus in E.African Ethiopia. Also, you would have known, the term Ethiopia was a generic term used by the Greeks to denote many of Ham's posterity; the swarthy caucasian tribes of north Africa and the levant.
Princess Andromeda was accurately depicted as an Ethiopian -- dark hair and eyes and an olive tone complexion.
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The myth of Andromeda In Greek mythology, Andromeda was the daughter of Cepheus and Cassiopeia, king and queen of the kingdom Ethiopia.
Her mother Cassiopeia bragged that she was more beautiful than the Nereids, the nymph-daughters of the sea god Nereus and often seen accompanying Poseidon. To punish the Queen for her arrogance, Poseidon, brother to Zeus and God of the Sea, sent a sea monster (a cetus) to ravage the coast of Ethiopia including the kingdom of the vain Queen. The desperate King consulted the Oracle of Zeus, who announced that no respite would be found until the king sacrificed his virgin daughter Andromeda to the monster. She was chained naked to a rock on the coast of Jaffa.
Perseus, returning from having slain the Gorgon Medusa, found Andromeda and slew the cetus. He set her free, and married her in spite of Andromeda having been previously promised to her uncle Phineus. At the wedding a quarrel took place between the rivals, and Phineus was turned to stone by the sight of the Gorgon's head (Ovid, Metamorphoses v. 1).
Andromeda followed her husband to Tiryns in Argos, and together they became the ancestors of the family of the Perseidae through the line of their son Perses. Perseus and Andromeda had seven sons: Perseides, Perses, Alcaeus, Heleus, Mestor, Sthenelus, and Electryon, and one daughter, Gorgophone. Their descendants ruled Mycenae from Electryon down to Eurystheus, after whom Atreus attained the kingdom, and would also include the great hero Heracles. According to this mythology, Perseus is the ancestor of the Persians.
After her death, Andromeda was placed by Athena amongst the constellations in the northern sky, near Perseus and Cassiopeia. Sophocles and Euripides (and in more modern times Corneille) made the story the subject of tragedies.
Khufu - It is important to understand just what is happening here, and what was the purpose of these Greek myths. When Whites entered Europe, they entered as illiterate Nomads from the plains of Central Asia.
The earliest Black European writing, that we know about, is the Linear A script which first appeared in Crete (the Middle Minoan period (1700 - 1550 BC).
After the Whites invaded (circa 1,200 B.C.), all writing STOPPED! This period is commonly called "The Greek Dark Ages" it was obviously a time of Great Wars and social upheaval; the biggest upheaval being the Exodus of the Sea people.
When writing reappeared, at about 750 B.C, Whites had adopted an alphabet that came from a Phoenician script. Phoinikeia was the name for the letters. The Greeks modified some of the letters for the vowels. There were many local alphabets but in 403 B.C. Athens adopted the Ionic or Milesian alphabet which eventually became common in all of Greece and is still used today.
The first actual White writings were by Aesculus 525-456 B.C. These were tragedies including the Orestia Trilogy. * Agamemnon * Choephoroe * Eumenides
We think that he was a Hellene (White Greek) but that cannot be said for sure, because contrary to the story told by Whites; ancient Greece was a multi-racial and "mixed-race" society, note the bust of Sokrates and the greek youth below; ancient Rome was even more multi-racial, with several Emperors being "mixed-race".
Thus by the time that these first White invaders of Europe; the Hellenes (Greeks) and the Latin's (Romans), had learned to read and write, and were recording their own history, almost 500 years had passed.
Anyone who has ever researched family genealogy will tell you that oral history, as passed down from generation to generation is very undependable. After only a generation or two, it becomes so corrupted with exaggeration and myth that it becomes useless.
This then is what the White Greeks were faced with, now that they had conquered the Black civilizations, and could finally write, all memories of their former lives in Asia had been lost, and all memories of their early beginnings in Europe were in the form of oral history, passed down from generation to generation.
So then how were they to explain this new world? Here was this fabulous city "Mycenae" which they had taken, but how did get there, and who built it?
They correctly understood that Blacks must have built it, but who, how, and why? And so, they created myths to explain the things that they did not understand.
Thus Greeks recorded their previous history as a series of founding myths, with god-like ancestors as the founders of their line. Over time, they came to explain everything that they didn't know or understand with these myths. However, it should be noted that unlike the pathetic racists of today, the ancient Greeks were always careful to give proper respect and credit to Blacks, especially the Egyptians and Persians. Note, in this myth, Africa IS the source. Also illustrative of this, is the Myth of Danaus.
But now in the modern world, Whites are "Full" of themselves. They no longer hold Blacks as the source of all things, quite the contrary, they seek to denigrate Blacks. Combine jealousy of Blacks, with pure ignorance of history, and you have the stupidness that is expressed in White media today.
But it is not only Whites now; they have even induced the Mutts into their racist stupidity.
Note this thread from Djehuti., it is clear from this thread, that their religion and culture (such as it is), has them completely ignorant of their own history and background. I don't know what myths they are taught, but it's obvious that they are just as bullsh1t as the Greek myths.
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Gigantic - I was so busy laughing at you quote about Andromedas depiction that I forgot this:
Quote: "If you knew any damn history, you'd know there was NEVER some king named Cepheus in E.African Ethiopia. Also, you would have known, the term Ethiopia was a generic term used by the Greeks to denote many of Ham's posterity; the swarthy caucasian tribes of north Africa and the levant."
He, he; Ethiopia means "BURNT FACE" asshole!!!
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The AEthiopia in question is today's Israel/Palestine. Tel-Aviv until recently was still called Yaffa, a variant of Yapho the name the ancients used for Kepheus' capital.
Sappho, in commenting on her own black complexion compared herself to Andromeda and mentions Perseus contrasting white complexion in regard to their union.
quote: If difficult nature has denied me beauty, compensate for my loss of beauty with my talent. I am short, but a name--the sort which fills all lands-- belongs to me: I myself carry the measure of my name. If I am not fair, Cepheian Andromeda was pleasing to Perseus, dark in the color of her native land. And often white doves are joined to those of various hues, and the black turtle-dove is loved by the green parrot.
Publius Ovidius Naso Heroides 15, Sappho to Phaon lines 31 - 38
We can't forget the Greeks divided Aethiopia into east and west. The blacks of so-called Asia being the Eastern Aethiopians. The Hebrews' Kush was also had portions in both 'Asia'(particularly Arabia) and in Africa.
AEthiopia/Kush was a vast region of many polities and peoples.
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: The AEthiopia in question is today's Israel/Palestine. Tel-Aviv until recently was still called Yaffa, a variant of Yapho the name the ancients used for Kepheus' capital.
Sappho, in commenting on her own black complexion compared herself to Andromeda and mentions Perseus contrasting white complexion in regard to their union.
quote: If difficult nature has denied me beauty, compensate for my loss of beauty with my talent. I am short, but a name--the sort which fills all lands-- belongs to me: I myself carry the measure of my name. If I am not fair, Cepheian Andromeda was pleasing to Perseus, dark in the color of her native land. And often white doves are joined to those of various hues, and the black turtle-dove is loved by the green parrot.
Publius Ovidius Naso Heroides 15, Sappho to Phaon lines 31 - 38
We can't forget the Greeks divided Aethiopia into east and west. The blacks of so-called Asia being the Eastern Aethiopians. The Hebrews' Kush was also had portions in both 'Asia'(particularly Arabia) and in Africa.
AEthiopia/Kush was a vast region of many polities and peoples.
Was this ancient Ethiopia considered black before or After the founding of Israel? I ask this becuase we know the Natufians were in the land first right?
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You are the only Afrofool in this thread that got some sense (although you are still clinging on to the pseudo-black this, that and the other nonsense).
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: The AEthiopia in question is today's Israel/Palestine. Tel-Aviv until recently was still called Yaffa, a variant of Yapho the name the ancients used for Kepheus' capital.
Sappho, in commenting on her own black complexion compared herself to Andromeda and mentions Perseus contrasting white complexion in regard to their union.
quote: If difficult nature has denied me beauty, compensate for my loss of beauty with my talent. I am short, but a name--the sort which fills all lands-- belongs to me: I myself carry the measure of my name. If I am not fair, Cepheian Andromeda was pleasing to Perseus, dark in the color of her native land. And often white doves are joined to those of various hues, and the black turtle-dove is loved by the green parrot.
Publius Ovidius Naso Heroides 15, Sappho to Phaon lines 31 - 38
We can't forget the Greeks divided Aethiopia into east and west. The blacks of so-called Asia being the Eastern Aethiopians. The Hebrews' Kush was also had portions in both 'Asia'(particularly Arabia) and in Africa.
AEthiopia/Kush was a vast region of many polities and peoples.
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Straight up. When Greeks use Aithiopia they mean a black land. To them the Aithiopians are black skinned people regardless of any other physical features.
I can't remember whether it was Tacitus or Cassius who used Kepheus as support for the majority Roman opinion that the Judaeans descend from Aethiopians.
Do not confuse Greco-Latin Aithopia(ns)/Aethiopia(ns) for modern day Ethiopians nor try to relegate all of them to only African populations. Various black peoples extend from Oceania to Cape Verde but they are not all related nor do they all look alike. The only thing all of them had in common was extremely dark skin.
I have no idea what quasi-historical time period Kepheus' Aethiopia at Joppa was supposed to be in. Take note that it is mythological and serves the purpose for general explanation of facts otherwise not explained.
The Levant being the nexus of three continents had a heady mixture of peoples right from the start of proto-history. Levantine blacks were only one patch of the quilt.
quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: Was this ancient Ethiopia considered black before or After the founding of Israel? I ask this becuase we know the Natufians were in the land first right?
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Impressed by that reference to Ovid! But my question is what is the translation evidence that "Ethiopian" meant "burnt face" as most believe. This translation is often used to distinguish between "Ethiopian" and "Egyptian".
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That's a best guess translation (aithi-op = burnt-face). Some are inclined to conclude it's actually a borrowing from a word in some lower or middle Nile Valley language.
Only context can tell what particular place is meant when Aithiopia/Aethiopia is used in texts by the ancient Greco-Latin writers
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quote:Originally posted by Gigantic: ^What a damn idiot! Ethiopia back then was not what it is today. Ethopia of the titans was an area near present-day Jordan and Egypt, fvckturd! Y'all are some real funny people! who are desperately trying to beg the white man to write you into his history (LOL). Simply pathetic!
If you knew any damn history, you'd know there was NEVER some king named Cepheus in E.African Ethiopia. Also, you would have known, the term Ethiopia was a generic term used by the Greeks to denote many of Ham's posterity; the swarthy caucasian tribes of north Africa and the levant.
Princess Andromeda was accurately depicted as an Ethiopian -- dark hair and eyes and an olive tone complexion.
Never heard of Falashas (Ethiopian Jews)? Well we have an ancient Ethiopian manuscript in Geez, found in the ruins of an Ethiopian church in Nubia, and according to this ancient manuscript the two largest tribes in Ethiopia (Amharas and Oromos )are the sons of Melchizedek King of Salem the highest priest of God on Earth, founder of Jerusalem to whom Abraham and other kings bowed and paid tithes to receive his blessings.
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: That's a best guess translation (aithi-op = burnt-face). Some are inclined to conclude it's actually a borrowing from a word in some lower or middle Nile Valley language.
Only context can tell what particular place is meant when Aithiopia/Aethiopia is used in texts by the ancient Greco-Latin writers
Actually Ityop / Ethiop was a son of Cush.
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