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King Tut has European ancestry, the articles all over the net. You morons can now shut this forum down and go find a real job. It is only going to get worse.
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Lol Hammerhead if that were true how come you haven't posted the article? How come a search on the W.W.W. reveals nothing of what you're saying if it's indeed all over the net as you say?
What's also funny is how hammerhead is on here day in and day out talking about how he doesn't care what the Egyptians were, but first chance he gets he posts this bogus conclusion based on nothing, that Tut had European ancestry lol.
Hammerhead I will await your embarrassment when the results reveal no European ancestry.
I hope you didn't get receive that info from here...
P.s. It's funny that Hammerhead is so quick to note that Tut was of European ancestry (which there's no evidence for), meanwhile the real evidence of African and southwest Asian genetic admixture in Europeans such as Greeks, he quickly denies. LMAO.
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Mindunderfecalmatter718...read below... and then go fvck yourself without vaseline:
"Using the CT data from scanning done in January, a “rapid prototype model” of the skull was made and provided to French forensic anthropologist Jean-Noel Vignal, of the Centre Technique de la Gendarmerie Nationale. Vignal, who works daily with police officials to reconstruct deceased crime victims, determined from the skull that the person had been male, 18 to 20 years old, with Caucasoid features. “Caucasoid” describes a major group of peoples of Europe, North Africa, the Near East and India."
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^^ The things you engage in your everyday life off of this board, is of no significance on this board, keep your lil fag antics to yourself.
Anyway, you post an article from 2005 which uses that outdated term "Caucasoid" again. Are you serious? Are you forgetting that you can not even define what a "Caucasoid" entails?
^^Get to your obligation clown, what's taking you so long to answer? If not, then stop using terms that you have no idea of what they actually mean or imply, because it's quite obvious you don't know.
With almost a whole months time that you disappeared, yet you come back and still can't answer the questions! You're insignificant as usual. Good for a laugh though, I'll give you that much!
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Mindover, this board will be a ghost town by the weekend. Tut's DNA is going to blow you out of the water and revive the Dynastic Race Theory. Before you indult these guys you better do some checking. Info is coming out sand it will not be good for you.
It is going to be R1b.
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Hammerhead didn't you say the articles were all over the web?
I mean, if so, how come I can not find it?
And if you say that you saw it, why not post it?
I'm waiting!!
Or is this just another one of those usual crazed delusional claims you so often make without being able to back it up evidentially? I'm pretty sure it is.
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All I see is speculation from what I believe to be individuals from web forums reading STR's off a video , but no official reports hammerhead, why is that?
Also R1b. At least that's what a GENEALOGY-DNA-L poster has inferred based on Y-STR results visible in this video. That this dumbasses Proof..LOL..No other site has made such a claim about Tut being European...LMAO..Next..
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SURPRISES AND MORE MYSTERY AS KING TUT IS REVEALED TO THE WORLD There was silence as King Tut's results were being read out in the full conference room in Egypt,Cairo,the the land he once ruled,surprises and more mystery as his results are revealed,the boy king is not what most have known to believe,he was the son of the unknown,the father of more mysteries and the whole truth of his lineage revealed to the world as more mysteries were uncovered. THE GREEK LINEAGE
It has been uncovered that King Tut was born into a greek lineage,which traces back to Osmosis of Macedonia,a big surprise to many who believed he was the son of Akhenaton,and not surprising was that his mother was Kiya. His father,Nikyplatmus a greek scholar was surprising but not at all considering that most scholars believed he was adopted by Akhenaton. HIS BABIES He was buried with 2 stillborn babies,it has been revealed that he fathered them,was it the cause of his downfall? did he father them with the wrong woman? The fact remains that why he was buried with his babies will draw more questions about his downfall,in the end in the coming months,more will be revealed about his 2 babies and who mothered them and why they were buried with the young king.
This is the Garbage Hammer is basing his claims off of...But what gets me No DNA evidence provided plus no evidence of a Greek Egyptian lineage at the Time of King Tut, especially a Macedonian..LOL.
Only a moron would believe such a claim..
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dont worry about those 3 sites. They are also found in E3a and E3b and K2 and many other haplogroups. I still have info that the marker is E-V32 a southern lineage.
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"Ninety percent of malaria-related deaths occur in sub-Saharan Africa. "
Snow RW, Guerra CA, Noor AM, Myint HY, Hay SI (2005). "The global distribution of clinical episodes of Plasmodium falciparum malaria". Nature 434 (7030): 214–7.
And
" Scientists have recently discovered that the royal boy died from a bout of malaria at the age of 19. "
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Hammer are you advocating that Tut and the Egyptians established a Greek Colony and set up a Greek Lineage about 1000 yrs before an idea of Greece Emerged ??? LOL Hammer are you even educated do you know that Tut lived about 1000 yrs before Greece was even concieved let alone literate and a world power????
LMAO so Now Hammer is advocating that
Is true!!!
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quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: Anyway, you post an article from 2005 which uses that outdated term "Caucasoid" again. Are you serious?
You dumb shmuck! The term "caucasoid", "negroid", and "mongoloid" are still relevant and valid in some of the branches of anthropology. You will find it 100% valid in forensic anthropology, paleoanthropology and phylogeography; Craniofacial anthropometry. You dumb porch monkey.
quote: Are you forgetting that you can not even define what a "Caucasoid" entails?
^^Get to your obligation clown, what's taking you so long to answer? If not, then stop using terms that you have no idea of what they actually mean or imply, because it's quite obvious you don't know.
You got to be kidding me! (LOL). Dude ya lost. It's over Rock.
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quote:Originally posted by astenb: Yes,LOL anyone can get malaria.
dont worry about those 3 sites. They are also found in E3a and E3b and K2 and many other haplogroups. I still have info that the marker is E-V32 a southern lineage.
I can't find any results of Haplogroups released only speculations??
Also from the Poster Garrig on Topix: You are correct and King Tut's era was before any of those invasions. The truth is, his Haplogroup can't really tell us what race he was. It is most likely E3b or perhaps J. Keep in mind that Europeans in the Balkans and elsewhere have E3b. Also the Western Euroepan Haplogroup R1b is found in Cameroon, Africa and the people there are certianly not White. By the same token, R1A stretches from Scotland and Scandinavian all the way to India and Nepal. So you can't just look at someone's mtDNA and say with any certainty what race they are.
Im still not familiar with DNA Haplogroups yet, so is this true if R1b is found in Camroon and Europe Then we really can't say his Skin...??
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^^Get to your obligation clown, what's taking you so long to answer? If not, then stop using terms that you have no idea of what they actually mean or imply, because it's quite obvious you don't know.
You got to be kidding me! (LOL). Dude ya lost. It's over Rock.
Did you answer the questions? Nope, you didn't, therefore I win, and you're still the jackass!
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Are these Europeans. In your wet dreams. GTFOH!!!
Guest the Turkish Egytian Gov’t is really concerned about the dollars from NG and other Europeans. Did the stupid fughk fudge Tut to be Western European. . .not even Baltic (R1a).? ??? Someone bump Dougs’s portrait thread. Ahhhh never mind I will do it!! As a reminder of the thousand of portraits of the AE.
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Mindover, this board will be a ghost town by the weekend. Tut's DNA is going to blow you out of the water and revive the Dynastic Race Theory. Before you indult these guys you better do some checking. Info is coming out sand it will not be good for you.
It is going to be R1b.
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quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: Mindunderfecalmatter718...read below... and then go fvck yourself without vaseline:
"Using the CT data from scanning done in January, a “rapid prototype model” of the skull was made and provided to French forensic anthropologist Jean-Noel Vignal, of the Centre Technique de la Gendarmerie Nationale. Vignal, who works daily with police officials to reconstruct deceased crime victims, determined from the skull that the person had been male, 18 to 20 years old, with Caucasoid features. “Caucasoid” describes a major group of peoples of Europe, North Africa, the Near East and India."
That's called description. The term is bankrupt, but continues to be used. In the hierarchy of things, forensic anthropologists would not be as forward as hard geneticists, or those who are familiar with evolutionary biology.
Those groups have a very different history. For one South Asians, largely, do not have an origin in the Caucasus mountains. North Africans, especially in the Sahara, and those in Egypt are dark people.
In other words, those groups did not undergo the isolation Europeans went to develop pale skin. It could also be said that those groups have nothing to do with Central Asia, outside the elites who used to, especially, dominate Delta cities. The same goes for Maghrebian-based Berber population as well.
To construct the definition of "Caucasian", you need to do actual research. Provide PRIMARY evidence, where it isn't used as a temporary fiction (that women is minor, and if dead tomorrow, will not increase our understanding of soft keratin), but rather TESTED as a HYPOTHESIS in the paper.
Do those populations perfectly cluster? I mean, we know that Southern Europeans have the benin sickle cell form. That isn't common in Northern Europe, and please, resistance developments that arose to mitigate malaria, is still part of the African-American make up. That is, even though malaria is not wide spread in Columbus, Ohio. It could be said, no, which compliments what we know of uni-parental markers, that perfect clusters do not form.
PS: I must also stress that the science, technology, engineering and mathematics shortage is more severe in Europe. One often goes there as a back up. It's unfortunate, but true, and it's even the case for medicine. This has harmed the richness of the field. Don't get me wrong, it's rich, but that she, who likely studied a basic physical anthropology seems to have limited exposure in hard, experimental, biology. I could see why "South Asians" may be seen as appearing similar to Europeans. However it's so troublesome using superficial traits that are the result of specific environmental conditions to establish relationship.
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If Tut was R1b then he was likely Caucasian.
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All I see is speculation from what I believe to be individuals from web forums reading STR's off a video , but no official reports hammerhead, why is that?
I haven't seen any STR revelations on Y-DNA markers yet; was it posted somewhere? I mean, someone already posted autosomal STRs, but that's it.
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All I see is speculation from what I believe to be individuals from web forums reading STR's off a video , but no official reports hammerhead, why is that?
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: King Tut has European ancestry, the articles all over the net. You morons can now shut this forum down and go find a real job. It is only going to get worse.
Results?
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Followed the numbers above to the extent that I can, and the set doesn't appear to fall into any known haplotype. But just to be clear, here is a question: What to make of "dual peak"? I simply used the most plausible values therein.
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ROTFLMAO @ Hammered-brains jumping to some wild wacky conclusion based on what?... Some speculations from a forum with way less scholarship than this one!
Last time I checked, the DNA results for Tut came from nuclear DNA, specifically autosomal STRs used to establish familial relations! NOTHING was yet tested in regards to his Y-chromosomal lineage let alone if he carried R1b! LOL
My, it seems the raving redneck from Texas is just dying for Tut and his family to have European ancestry! As if his incessant remarks about Egyptians royals being redheads and blondes wasn't enough! LOLPosts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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Now for all the intelligent posters, if by any chance Tut's Y-chromosome is tested and the results yield what we've always said-- E1b1 haplotype, don't be surprised to see the 'experts' in denial try to explain away this African marker by pointing out adjacent non-African populations who happen to carry it also!!!
I mean, hell... just look at what Cruciani is wrote about E1b1 subgroups!
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quote:Originally posted by osirion: If Tut was R1b then he was likely Caucasian.
Can you provide literature that R1b is "Caucasian"? Did this haplogroup in Europe and where is its greatest diversity found. We need to update our sources.
Also, I would start defining terms as well. Do you think that paternal considering having a potential Neolithic source be considered such. Look for the PloS paper that I posted. On the other hand, European maternal ancestry is forager-based.
Provide us a review, please.
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I used a software to make the estimations about possible matches in a database of world populations. No match showed up. Furthermore, these are only presumably tandem repeat clusters; so, to get a more precise idea about the actual lineage at hand, information on characteristic SNPs would be greatly intuitive.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ROTFLMAO @ Hammered-brains jumping to some wild wacky conclusion based on what?... Some speculations from a forum with way less scholarship than this one!
Last time I checked, the DNA results for Tut came from nuclear DNA, specifically autosomal STRs used to establish familial relations! NOTHING was yet tested in regards to his Y-chromosomal lineage let alone if he carried R1b! LOL
My, it seems the raving redneck from Texas is just dying for Tut and his family to have European ancestry! As if his incessant remarks about Egyptians royals being redheads and blondes wasn't enough! LOL
Correct. I mean, Jesus Christ, the autosomal DNA is NOT the Y-DNA. It was a term specially developed to exclude the sex chromosomes. Using Y-DNA to develop familial ties would be unreliable , because it's function is to determine sex.
It's reliable in studying origin, because the haplotype (or marker) is uni-parental. It passes through the parental line ad infinitum (some exceptions applies for mtDNA) despite undergoing genetic recombination during the fertilization process.
The problem here is that mutations would not be familial-based. For instance Greeks with Hg E, and another with R, is more likely to be more related. Why? Because both live in the same environmental niche, and thus inter-breeding would occur.
Those uni-parental markers will pass continuously, but regardless the greatest geneflow would be with Greeks. That is unless the population are segregated, but then, local admixture would still occur due to maternal gene flow.
The data is being used to access paternity. That is why the results don't fit with the database. One is using genealogical testing methods, which use Y-DNA STR on just autosomal data.
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I used a software to make the estimations about possible matches in a database of world populations. No match showed up. Furthermore, these are only presumably tandem repeat clusters; so, to get a more precise idea about the actual lineage at hand, information on characteristic SNPs would be greatly intuitive.
Which software did you use?
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Using Y-DNA to develop familial ties would be unreliable , because it's function is to determine sex.
Actually, it would be reliable, if the intent was to establish paternal lineage.
quote: It's reliable in studying origin, because the haplotype (or marker) is uni-parental.
Yes.
quote: It passes through the parental line ad infinitum (some exceptions applies for mtDNA) despite undergoing genetic recombination during the fertilization process.
Much of the Y-DNA doesn't recombine, which is what makes it a good marker. The Y chromosome is relatively shorter than the X chromosome.
quote: The problem here is that mutations would not be familial-based.
What mutations? The Y-DNA mutations are of course "familial-based" -- they are transmitted onto the offspring. Maybe you mean something more here (?)
quote: For instance Greeks with Hg E, and another with R, is more likely to be more related. Why? Because both live in the same environmental niche, and thus inter-breeding would occur.
They belong to different lineages.
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The data is being used to access paternity. That is why the results don't fit with the database.
They don't match with the results in the database of world populations, because the STRs are off from the modal types across the globe. This is why SNPs are a better measure. This way, one will immediately discern if the reports are logical and authentic.
quote: One is using genealogical testing methods, which use Y-DNA STR on just autosomal data.
I am not sure what you are saying here.
quote:Originally posted by Bob_01: Which software did you use?
That operated by DNA testing organizations.
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Watched the video in the given link, but I must have missed the specifics of the STRs. Is the video that immediately pops up the one, or is it in some other selection?
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Watched the video in the given link, but I must have missed the specifics of the STRs. Is the video that immediately pops up the one, or is it in some other selection?
Yea, it's the video in the link, after the 15 second advertisement.
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Hmm So Kiya it is then..so that leaves Nefertiti out of the picture..but did Neferiti gave birth to Tut's sister?..
And Hammered if even in your wildest most orgasmic of wet dreams King Tut some how got some Euro..dna that would be one man in one dynasty..Kemet would still be KEMET.. IE.. THE BLACK LAND OR LAND OF THE BLACKS.. At worst he would be no different from a lot of New world Blacks.. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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I've gone through the video a few times; yes, I could make out some peak and associated values, while others not so much. Not sure how the fellow above reached the above. If there is a clearer posting of the results somewhere, I'd be happy to re-examine them.
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Using Y-DNA to develop familial ties would be unreliable , because it's function is to determine sex.
Actually, it would be reliable, if the intent was to establish paternal lineage.
Yes, that market is passed indefinitely father-to-son. However, it seems like non-sex markers were used to measure familial ties. Nothing wrong with that, but it used, especially other traits such as the father's maternal gene flow (post-recombination) is observed.
quote: It passes through the parental line ad infinitum (some exceptions applies for mtDNA) despite undergoing genetic recombination during the fertilization process.
Much of the Y-DNA doesn't recombine, which is what makes it a good marker. The Y chromosome is relatively shorter than the X chromosome. [/QUOTe] Yes.
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quote: The problem here is that mutations would not be familial-based.
What mutations? The Y-DNA mutations are of course "familial-based" -- they are transmitted onto the offspring. Maybe you mean something more here (?)
The aim here was to use autosomal DNA to establish familiar ties akin to Human Leukocyte Antigen tests. The mutations I speak of are the Y-DNA STRs.
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quote: For instance Greeks with Hg E, and another with R, is more likely to be more related. Why? Because both live in the same environmental niche, and thus inter-breeding would occur.
They belong to different lineages.
Yes, however the populations autosomal markers, due to recombination, would not be uni-parental. Gene flow will occur between Greeks regardless due to recombination of automosal data. In other words, skin tone, markers involved in disease resistance.
Y-DNA passes indefinitely: autosomal DNA won't and thus would represent another avenue of gene flow between the Greeks with separate Y-DNA lineages.
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The data is being used to access paternity. That is why the results don't fit with the database.
They don't match with the results in the database of world populations, because the STRs are off from the modal types across the globe. This is why SNPs are a better measure. This way, one will immediately discern if the reports are logical and authentic.
Yup. That makes sense. Variation amongst a single nucleotide would be a lot more reliable.
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quote: One is using genealogical testing methods, which use Y-DNA STR on just autosomal data.
I am not sure what you are saying here.
Typo. We need Y-DNA STR data (plus SNP) to identify Tut's paternal uni-paternal marker.
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quote:Originally posted by Bob_01: Which software did you use?
That operated by DNA testing organizations.
So you used the Y-DNA STR database and allowed mismatches. I was using that initially as well. That was until I figured out the data was autosomal. The video didn't seem to work for me, but from what I see, no clear headings et al. Seems like we're dealing with a basket case country.
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I used a software to make the estimations about possible matches in a database of world populations. No match showed up. Furthermore, these are only presumably tandem repeat clusters; so, to get a more precise idea about the actual lineage at hand, information on characteristic SNPs would be greatly intuitive.
Which software did you use?
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: I used a software to make the estimations about possible matches in a database of world populations. No match showed up. Furthermore, these are only presumably tandem repeat clusters; so, to get a more precise idea about the actual lineage at hand, information on characteristic SNPs would be greatly intuitive.
Which software did you use?
What do you mean? I was saying, the data seemed rather sketchy. He likely used Y-DNA STP database. That is used to determined genealogy. The data is like autosomal data, when we're looking for the uni-parental nuclear type.
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quote:In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and amongst speakers of Chadic languages in northern parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa.
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HAHAHAHAAH!! You fvckers have no shame. There is no honest scholarship w/ you people. Now R1b is a Negro haplogroup. Do pray tell what haplogroup does not belong to the negro stock (LOL)?! No fvcking honesty w/ you aholes heh? You pieces of sh1ts have such an insatiable vile appetite that you have gone beyond hijacking other cultures and histories. You now hijack genes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All haplogroups who doesn't belong to Y-DNA A, B, and E aren't Africanid, neither the ones who doesn't belong to the L's.
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quote:Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic: HAHAHAHAAH!! You fvckers have no shame. There is no honest scholarship w/ you people. Now R1b is a Negro haplogroup. Do pray tell what haplogroup does not belong to the negro stock (LOL)?! No fvcking honesty w/ you aholes heh? You pieces of sh1ts have such an insatiable vile appetite that you have gone beyond hijacking other cultures and histories. You now hijack genes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RFLOL!!!! Pathetic worms.
In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and amongst speakers of Chadic languages in northern parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa. R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88). These represent two very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree".
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quote:HAHAHAHAAH!! You fvckers have no shame. There is no honest scholarship w/ you people. Now R1b is a Negro haplogroup. Do pray tell what haplogroup does not belong to the negro stock (LOL)?! No fvcking honesty w/ you aholes heh? You pieces of sh1ts have such an insatiable vile appetite that you have gone beyond hijacking other cultures and histories. You now hijack genes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RFLOL!!!! Pathetic worms.
Saque passe ayissiene? Sa ou vlais bouwique?
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quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and amongst speakers of Chadic languages in northern parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa. R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88). These represent two very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree".
We are speaking about origins here.
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quote:Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and amongst speakers of Chadic languages in northern parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa. R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1b2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1a (R-V88). These represent two very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree".
We are speaking about origins here.
Well the R1b is not difinitive, it came off speculation after seeing a clip. People on other blogs are confused as to the authenticity of the R1b claim some say it might be a f-k up on the Discovery channels part and was never meant for Tut others say it could have arouse through Mittani IndoEuropean ancestry??
Anuway Im confused?? So did the r1b in Central africa come from Europeans?? What do you mean by "Origins"
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From a back migration from Central Asia, form where R1b originated, then distributed in central Africa like they also distributed in Western Europe,origins as where the Haplogroup first appeared.
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