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BrandonP
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I realize intellectually that the skin color of a civilization's population should not matter, but honestly, I really like it that the ancient Egyptians were black people. One reason is that it enhances their exotic appeal even more. Another is that I like the idea that black people built one of the most sophisticated nations in ancient times, a nation which along with the Mesopotamians laid the foundations for modern civilization.

Is this a racist feeling?

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quote:
Originally posted by T. Rex:
I realize intellectually that the skin color of a civilization's population should not matter, but honestly, I really like it that the ancient Egyptians were black people. One reason is that it enhances their exotic appeal even more. Another is that I like the idea that black people built one of the most sophisticated nations in ancient times, a nation which along with the Mesopotamians laid the foundations for modern civilization.

Is this a racist feeling?

Well since in america race is an integral part of the daily thoughts, then i would say NO, it's perfectly normal in your case.
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Nope, just part of your personal spin on things.

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quote:
Originally posted by T. Rex:
I realize intellectually that the skin color of a civilization's population should not matter, but honestly, I really like it that the ancient Egyptians were black people. One reason is that it enhances their exotic appeal even more. Another is that I like the idea that black people built one of the most sophisticated nations in ancient times, a nation which along with the Mesopotamians laid the foundations for modern civilization.

Is this a racist feeling?

In terms of pigmentation, the Egyptians would have been intermediate between White Americans and Black Americans.

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In terms of pigmentation, milk chocolate seems to have been the mode.

In terms of pigmentation, they some time altered between dark and mil chocolate in their depictions.

It terms of pigmentation i see them in a lighter caramel (golden brown) color (especially women), but often you can either see streaks and patches of the chocolate pain, if not an older non faded version.

When it's not the whether, some times depictions are "cleaned" because they were already old/blotchy.

I'll post a few examples of this later on. If it's @ the TNV site i'll try to remember to link here.

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^ Dude, there's no point trying to decide what exact colour a person is, it's an oxymoron. Ancient Egytptians were Blacks which really means they were able to tan *noticeably* (i.e like Africans and Black-Asians tan).

Damn near everybody changes colour based on their environment - and I'm not talking about long-term here I'm talking about a matter of days, especially in the case of so-called "mixed race" folks.

My wife went from a creamy off-white colour to being as Black as the Black-Indians out in Mauritius in a matter of just 2 days laying out in the Sun. Imagine what her colour would be if she lived there??

As far as me, I'm a "milk chocolate" colour at my lightest (i.e when I've been in the UK too long & when I was a child in Nigeria) like the guy on the far right of the pic, and at my darkest I'm literally the colour Black itself (i.e. dark as night) like the 2nd guy from the left.

My wife at her darkest hue, will probably be as dark as I am at my lightest hue.

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Yeah, an Uncle of mine looks almost white under his shirt.

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I cry Shame on all forum regulars for allowing the deceiver "SirInfamous" to post this bogus sketch, which is designed to ruin the minds of our ignorant young - and you guys allowed it without so much as a peep - Shame I say, Shame!!

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Boys and Girls, here is another bogus picture, not quite as bad, but still bogus, that is often found on the Turkish site "Tour Egypt" - Turks are in on it you know!


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Libyan, Nubian, Canaanite, Phillistine, Hittite


Take note: the people in the bogus drawing above - with the feathers in their hair. Below is what they REALLY looked like.


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Here are some other authentic pictures of foreigners.


This is an Asiatic

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If you knuckleheads wanted to see life-like pictures of Egyptians, you should have said so!

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quote:
Originally posted by Yonis2:
quote:
Originally posted by T. Rex:
I realize intellectually that the skin color of a civilization's population should not matter, but honestly, I really like it that the ancient Egyptians were black people. One reason is that it enhances their exotic appeal even more. Another is that I like the idea that black people built one of the most sophisticated nations in ancient times, a nation which along with the Mesopotamians laid the foundations for modern civilization.

Is this a racist feeling?

Well since in america race is an integral part of the daily thoughts, then i would say NO, it's perfectly normal in your case.
I disagree. I don't know of any place on earth, which has more than one culture, where "race" isn't an integral part of daily thoughts at some point.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
I cry Shame on all forum regulars for allowing the deceiver "SirInfamous" to post this bogus sketch, which is designed to ruin the minds of our ignorant young - and you guys allowed it without so much as a peep - Shame I say, Shame!!

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Boys and Girls, here is another bogus picture, not quite as bad, but still bogus, that is often found on the Turkish site "Tour Egypt" - Turks are in on it you know!


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Libyan, Nubian, Canaanite, Phillistine, Hittite


Take note: the people in the bogus drawing above - with the feathers in their hair. Below is what they REALLY looked like.


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This is an Asiatic

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Good post. Break it down, Mike.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
If you knuckleheads wanted to see life-like pictures of Egyptians, you should have said so!

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You are right that his "racial types" chart is bogus. Sure there were Nubians, Asiatics etc that Egyptians differentiated themselves from. But as your images above show, dark skin is routine in ancient Egypt. It is not "foreign" but part of the routine mix, just as dark skinned Italians and lighter skinned Swedes are all considered Europeans and not different "races".


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Too often hypocritical double standards come into play however when the Nile Valley is involved, with certain people going to great lengths to whitewash Egypt as if all dark-skinned people are "foreign" in comparison to some mythical "light brown" race.


So we have dark-skinned natives in place from Day 1. But even taking the foreigners, of all the foreigners, guess who was the closest according to mainstream Egyptologists?

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DULL-RAB debunkedd - I understand that bad habits are hard to break, but you have to try. Every time that you say “Arab” (who were and still are, Black people, hidden by the imposters, just like the Egyptians are), instead of the correct word “Turk”, you are playing right into the hands of the liars and deceivers.

Their goal has always been to usurp the identity of the ancient Black people whose country’s they have conquered and now rule, so as to appear legitimate to the world (You will note that none of them can, or will ever allow free elections). Saudi Arabia doesn’t have enough people to conquer Kuwait, yet these people conquered the whole of North Africa, Southern Europe, the Middle-east and parts of India? Come-on use your brain, what Arabs?

These are White people and their mixed-race lackeys, seeking to unify under the bogus banner of Arab, (a local people) and thus legitimize their rule of Black countries – do you really want to help them.

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Anyone notice that Ancient Egyptians looked more like African Americans than any other people - can you guess why?
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What do you mean they look "more like" ?

You're going to have to talk some sense if you want anyone to take you seriously. Non-stop incoherent drivelling does not mask your lack of intelligence.

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Horus-: Come-on man, I thought that I had dispatched you, as an ignorant, young, know-nothing ass-hole last time. Why do you Persist?
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I don't know why you guys are getting all worked up over Infamous's post.
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Originally posted by SirInfamous:

In terms of pigmentation, the Egyptians would have been intermediate between White Americans and Black Americans.

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This is a comedic lie. Many Black Americans would in fact be lighter than most Egyptians! Have you even seen the pigmentation of preserved paintings of ancient Egyptians or even rural non-Arab Egyptians??

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Modern NON-Arab indigenous Egyptians
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:

Modern NON-Arab indigenous Egyptians
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Egypt is Multi-cultural there is no point in showing a picture and saying "NON-Arab". You might as will posted "NON-Turk"

My point is just that its dangerous the idea of light skinned Arabs vs. dark skinned Africans

This guy is from Yemen

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Djehuti aka "Puppy Chow" wrote:
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I don't know why you guys are getting all worked up over Infamous's post.
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People this child is just as crazy as the racists.


He's spent the past couple of weeks chasing around making the same circular arguments over, and over, and over, and over, and over.


And now he has the gall to preach to you guys about not doing it.


Folks, I told you the boy wasn't right in the head.

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Funny stuff. This is better than a chinese new year celebration. Djehuti puts up a picture of Tut without a scrap of evidence he was black.
Hawass (a top scholar) "Tut was a north african caucasian."

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^ "HawAss" (a top scholar). *Chuckles* [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
Funny stuff. This is better than a chinese new year celebration. Djehuti puts up a picture of Tut without a scrap of evidence he was black.
Hawass (a top scholar) "Tut was a north african caucasian."

True dat TheAmericanPatriot; Notice these sharp pointy Nordic features.

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These are OBVIOUSLY White people - just look at the skin color!!!

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And just look at these high Nordic Cheekbones.

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The Niggers doctored this one - this couple "Used" to have, pencil thin lips and noses so sharp you could open a tin can with them.


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On this one - forget the stone color and those Gorgeous full lips - she's a White woman!

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And how about the Tut Facemask, this guy was straight from Sweden - no question about it!



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The only problem with Hawass, is that he is one of those degenerate lying Turks (think Dirk8), who are trying to convince the world that they are (Egyptians, Persians, Berbers, Arabs, etc. etc.) take your pick. Don’t you just wish that we could give them a pill to make them stop lying – only ignorant ass-holes are fooled by it anyway (AP?). But he looks honest - doesn't he?


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MIKE111 (THE REAL MIKE111) HAS GOT TO BE THE FUNNIEST HUMAN BEING ON THE PLANET.


DUDE...YOU DIDN'T REALLY BELIEVE A ' HEADBUTT ' WAS COMING YOUR WAY DID YOU?? LMBAO!! YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME FOREVER MAN!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Sauron - You really need to find an outlet for your Aggressive tendencies. Note how your people "Used" to do that - before they "took-in" all of that White blood.



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^ OK, since you insist on having me speak for my African brethren. Here goes:

It wasn't the "white blood" my people took in that stopped them from partying (and you're right about that - they just go to church now), it's the "white ideology" like the diarrhea that comes out of your mouth that caused our major problems.

So you see, it's PEOPLE LIKE YOU who were/are the cause of the problems we suffer from in Africa. That, along with the fact that some humans just choose to be stupid.

As far as my Aggrrression, I can dissipate that by slapping the Sh1t out of you the next time I see you hiding from me. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
... Note how your people "Used" to do that - before they "took-in" all of that White blood.



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REALLY?

HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS??? [Big Grin]

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Sauron Quote: OK, since you insist on having me speak for my African brethren.

Nah, I didn't say anything like that, all you need to do, is speak for your fellow coolies. Horus- can speak for ignorant Negroes.


Ah, the former peace and tranquility.


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But then your Wicked White father appeared!!


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^ Are you trying to Piss me off? Stop it you're making me chuckle. [Big Grin]

Hey, your sweetheart just stepped into our little secure area [Big Grin] I was the only one in the room before then (everybody else has gone home), so we're alone. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

The coffee pot is empty. Don't let me find out it was you or else........................

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No Horus – I am definitely NOT trying to Piss you off!

I merely allocated jobs based on ability to "DO" the job, you seemed to be perfectly qualified for the job that I assigned to you.

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All YaAll quit playing, but really kemetic dude with the beer gut needed some kemetic style workout,my "god",I thought he was a pregnant female.how does one get to be a fat waaay over weight mf back in the days when walking and running was the norm and you were not pheraoh, [Big Grin]
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^ True True!!! What A Life he must have had! [Big Grin]
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quote:
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No Horus – I am definitely NOT trying to Piss you off!

I merely allocated jobs based on ability to "DO" the job, you seemed to be perfectly qualified for the job that I assigned to you.

Heheheee [Big Grin] [Big Grin] you're getting salty.

My boy, aren't you on the "away" team anyhow? Come to daddy and learn some Java then maybe you might survive the IMPENDING SunGod culls on "useless eaters" [Big Grin] [Razz]

Look, if it makes you feel better I'll give your sweetheart special treatment and priviledges in MY OFFICE [Big Grin]

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Here you go Brada-Anansi, I have something for everyone. How do you like Senusret II's Muscles? They look almost as big as the ones in Horus' head.


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^ Arggggghhhhhh!!! [Mad]

You're just jealous cuz I'm about to drive home in a topless sexy Audi (dirty wheels due to my laziness, I admit, but at least they're 20 inches [Big Grin] ) A/C BLOWING, BOSE SOUND SYSTEM BLASTING, doing 100MPH ALL DA WAY!!! [Big Grin]

And you're about to go hitch that filthy smelly southwest Train home to your Ghetto in Clapham (after making about 20 short annoying stops on the way [Big Grin] ). Doesn't help that it's summer either. [Frown] I really shouldn't be so hard on you mate. I'm sorry for being Insensitive, please forgive me. [Big Grin]

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I’m just glad that someone appreciates my hardships.
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It is some small Justice at least. Given your Ignorant opinions (of Black folks) that you don't even have enough sense to be ashamed of, despite having a coolie wife. You must be a bonehead.

Or perhaps your wife is not aware that you're a Turd?

Or perhaps you underestimated my powers of telepathy.

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Horus- truly you do me wrong! I have never said one bad word about my own, my cherished, Black people. My bad comments are always about the Negro – and of course, those devil White people.
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I am not suprised that a white man despises White people too.

JEALOUSY...it's your nature.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:

Funny stuff. This is better than a chinese new year celebration. Djehuti puts up a picture of Tut without a scrap of evidence he was black.
Hawass (a top scholar) "Tut was a north african caucasian."

[Eek!]

So I take it you don't count these authentic portraits as evidence of his black appearance, then!!

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As for Hawass, we told you all too many times that he's an archaeologist and has no qualifications in anthropology to be making such assertions! His claims are questionable at best and at worst nonsense. Even his collegues oppose him! [Roll Eyes]

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