[A Hyacinth: Snowden writes in 'Blacks in Antiquity' about a man who compares his lover's complexion to this intensely dark flower]
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Egmond. You wrote, A Hyacinth: Snowden writes in 'Blacks in Antiquity' about a man who compares his lover's complexion to this intensely dark flower.
In Homer, translated by Robert Fitzgerald, The Odyssey in the edition by the Everyman Library, 1992, distributed by Random House, on page 434 we read,
Greathearted Odysseus, home at last, was being bathed now by Eurynome and rubbed with golden oil, and clothed again in a fresh tunic with a cloak. Athena lent him beauty, head to foot. She made him taller, and massive, too, with crisping hair in curls like petals of a wild hyacinth.
A hyacinth
With individual "balls" of hair turning inwards, Odysseus' hair was "woolly" in a way captured by the hyacinth Vase from Vulci, Italy, 4th to 5th century BC
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Oops. Meant to attribute the hyacinth above to Egmond. Interestingly, though, I did a page some years back on this point using the hyacinth as the symbol of African hair, in this case, Odysseus (see hyacinth in center of page at [D] ).
Seriously, only in "Edmund's" twisted world could: 1. Blacks "cast off thy nighted colour (black skin", to appear normal to others (seriously, I'd be impressed if all present on this forum could magically slough off their black skin and appear white) 2. Blacks playing Hamlet in the Twentieth Century imply that Hamlet "must" have been black (why Shakespeare never called him a "Moor" like Othello I'll never know!).
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Always a pleasure. To me an Internet forum should work like a salon of old were the learned congregated and had learned conversations. So we exchange sources and make progress. Now after you posted this vase with a man with woolly hair, I have to inform you that there exist a helmet made for Charles V Habsburg, with the same kind of hair sculpted into it. So the helmet is made to resemble a classic head. Charles V Habsburg was known for his strong prognatisy. In 1875 his mummy was photographed. Th unclear image shows a black body and extreme prognasty. I do not know if all mummies become black, but I have a print which shows his son Filips II with black skin and prognasty which is also visible on his whitened portraits. At least you understand what my research is all about.
Egmond Codfried
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So all the world can see how I'm attacked again and again for my research. If mine were the ramblings of a crazy person, why bother with me? Why waste time with me? Are you one of those so-called Whites who know they have Black ancestors? Or are you a nothing nobody who has only his White skin to claim superiority over Blacks. As it is, any lowdown White ranks higher then Nelson Mandela, Oprah Winfrey and Barack Obama too. But of course I am also attacked by Blacks, a point which I made in my threat about The Enemy of the Black is the Black himself.
Please get a life and do not bother me again.
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Of course we by now know (progress!!)That Shakespeare was a man of colour, a member of the fixed mulatto race which dominated Europe 1500-1789, just as Whites dominate the world today. Today any great writer will be White, while then they made sure that only coloureds could aspire to greatness. That's why I speak of Reversed Apartheid. England was ruled by a coloured queen Elizabeth I who would paint her face white to show her 'love' for her White subjects, who she dominated and exploited. If she was White, why paint the face white? One of her suitors was Francis, Duke D'Anjou, a son of Catherine de Medici who is described as 'swarthy.'
In the play the remark about 'nighted colour' is next connected with his mourning outfit, which was bound to be dark. As a playwright in my own right I recognize wordplay and witticisms, and stage directions in the clauses, so nobody can overlook them or stray, when staging my play. So I myself would use a line like this to make a important point clear, while making a joke. Because a Black person cannot throw his colour off.
I'm criticized by a person who is convinced he is clever while I observe his brain to be like a half cooked rice dish. Some parts are done, some are undercooked.
He is under the mistaken assumption that Egmond Codfried thinks that Albinism in humans is hereditary. Well I'm not, as this is basic knowledge and understanding. I have however made good use of J.A.Rogers take on Arabs as 'a Fixed Mulatto Race,' and found phenomena in present Whites that remind me of Albino's. Some White's burn in the sun, just like Albino's. They might have light hair like Albino’s. And they have brown hair and eyes, just like some type of Albino's. So I guess that somehow Albino traits became hereditary and abundant.
We do not know what factors favour this mutation. But I saw a BBC documentary in which was explained that a famine during one generation will result in some new gene in the next generation which has to do with digesting food efficiently or something. The point they made was that genetic adaptation to outside stimuli will occur much sooner then later, as once was tought.
And he does not know how to read. There is quite a difference between these:
Then he is a dishonest debater by insisting that none of my examples of Blackness in the European elite can be seen from the portraits I posted. None of them? Along with the portraits which have to play a secondary role, I have posted personal descriptions like The Black Boy and Chimney sweep. And strong symbolism with Classical Africans, Moors, in art. All which speak for themselves.
Egmond Codfried
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The Masque of Blackness (1605): The daughter of the Niger River. Might be Queen Anne, wife of King James I Stuart. Anne was known as 'Anne of Denmark.' Hamlet was set in DenmarkPosts: 5454 | From: Holland | Registered: Aug 2008
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THIS IMAGE SOMEHOW STUCK IM MY MIND AND I HAD TO RETURN FOR THE RECIPE!...PURE SIN: BERRY BLACKNESS LYING ON WHITE CHOCOLAT!!!
quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
Tarts with Black Berries
White Chocolate Tarts with Black berries for the pate sable: 200g butter, softened pinch salt ⅓ cup icing sugar, sifted ¼ cup almond flour 1 egg 1 tsp vanilla essence 2 Tbsp + 1½ cup flour
for the filling: 70g white chocolate, chopped 2 Tbsp + 60 ml Cream
1 punnet black berries, washed
make the pastry: - beat the butter with the almond flour, salt and sugar until creamy.
- add the egg, vanilla and 1 Tbsp of the flour and beat until smooth.
- add the rest of the flour and combine to form a sticky dough. Wrap in plastic and refrigerate for at least 1 hour
- roll out and line greased and floured tart tins, refrigerate for a few mins
- heat oven to 360˚. Blind bake tarts (using parchment paper and legumes/lentils/etc) for 10 mins
- remove from oven, remove paper and legumes, bake empty tart shells another 7 - 10 mins until pastry is coming away from the sides of the tins and is “singing”.
- cool tart shells to room temperature.
make the filling:
- in a bain mare, melt the chocolate with the 2 Tbsp cream
- when the ganache is smooth, remove from heat to cool a bit. Add the rest of the cream and chill in the fridge for at least 4 hours, or overnight.
- whip the chocolate cream until it’s stiff. It whips up really quickly.
- fill the baked tart shells and top with black berries.
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"They shoot the White girl first…" When you are way, way into Toni Morrison’s novel Paradise; she drops a bombshell on you and informs you that these people you got to know intimately are all jet-black! And they intent to keep their town jet-black as well, thank you very much. You feel exposed and narrow-minded because you were fed with other kind of images, actually stereotypes about how people sound or behaved. The black peppers, unique for this place, should have been a give away. All of this makes Toni Morrison the great sorceress, she is.
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I wish I knew how It would feel to be free I wish I could break All the chains holding me I wish I could say All the things that I should say Say 'em loud say 'em clear For the whole round world to hear I wish I could share All the love that's in my heart Remove all the bars That keep us apart I wish you could know What it means to be me Then you'd see and agree That every man should be free
I wish I could give All I'm longin' to give I wish I could live Like I'm longin' to live I wish I could do All the things that I can do And though I'm way over due I'd; be starting a new
Well I wish I could be Like a bird in the sky How sweet it would be If I found I could fly Oh I'd; soar to the sun And look down at the sea Than I'd sing cos I know - yea Then I'd sing cos I know - yea Then I'd sing cos I know I'd; know how it feels Oh I; know how it feels to be free Yea Yea! Oh, I; know how it feels Yes I; know Oh, I; know How it feels How it feels To be free
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SOJOURNER THRUTH. I RECOGNIZED HER IN 'BELOVED,' THE PERSONAGE OF BABY SUGGS. THRUTH HAD DUTCH SLAVE MASTERS AND SPOKE SOME DUTCH!Posts: 5454 | From: Holland | Registered: Aug 2008
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^ She poisoned them in their sleep, but fortunately, was never arrested or convicted. If the truth don't fit, you must........
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quote:Originally posted by meninarmer: ^ She poisoned them in their sleep, but fortunately, was never arrested or convicted. If the truth don't fit, you must........
Source?
You see, I'm not that 'dualistic' monster you might have taken me for!
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Madame de Staël. Writer. Politician. Germaine baroness de Staël-Holstein. Daughter of De Necker, Minister of Finance of Louis XVI
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The saying: 'The more I know people, the more I like my dog,' seems to have originated with Madame de Staël. Folks in Surinam have a song about this: "O moro mi sabi libi sma omoro mi lob mi dagu."Posts: 5454 | From: Holland | Registered: Aug 2008
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