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[QUOTE]Originally posted by KING: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Yet that still doesn't change the fact that in many craniometric studies, the Badarians show a central position amongst all Egyptian populations both predynastic and dynastic. [/QUOTE]It all depends on which paper and method you use. For example, Keita 2020 describe them as "the most distinct southern series" and shows how the 1st dynasty remains were in fact closer to the northern series than Badarians. Keita 2008 also highlights how distinct badarians are compared to late predynastic remains from Upper Egypt. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Who? The Badarians?! The graph you post clearly shows they plot next to the Nubian Centroid which still falls within the overall North African cluster NOT Sub-Saharans! [b]LOL[/b] And both the Badarian and Nubian Centroid are not far from the centroid of the entire graph which is where the "Proto-Mediterranean" sample resides.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about ? Here a clearer picture of this plot : [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/lt2UHix.jpg[/IMG] Don't you see where the centroids of Upper/Lower Egypt are positioned compared to where Badari plot ? Ancient Lower Nubia and Badarians can be described as "intermediate" but certainly not Ancient Egyptians who like I said are much more eurasian shifted basically like modern egyptians. In any case, it is evident that Ancient Egyptians are significantly distant from most modern Sub-Saharan African populations on the plot. Therefore, there is no justification for labeling them as "black." [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: No, dummy! We told you countless times it has nothing to do with "admixture" but the simple fact that North Africans are genetically intermediate between Sub-Saharans and Eurasians! For example why do some Eurasians approach Sub-Saharans in crown size closer than North Africans or why do North Africans have the highest incidence of UM1 Carabelli's trait than either Eurasians or Sub-Saharans. Genetics has debunked your whole racialized way of thinking! And this is why nobody in this forum takes you seriously.[/QUOTE]This may apply to Lower Nubians/Horners or Upper Egyptians to some extent, but it certainly does not hold true for other North Africans. Regarding the SSA affinities, it is obviously due to admixture. Are you implying that populations evolving in a Mediterranean climate would develop equatorial traits ? Even Irish makes it clear that it is due to admixture : [QUOTE]Any North African deviations away from a simple dental pattern are in the direction of complex Sub-Saharan traits (e.g., UI2 tuberculum dentale, Bushman Canine, two-rooted UP1, three-rooted UM2), [b]suggesting likely gene flow from these peoples.[/b] [b]These findings agree with genetic-based results[/b] that link North Africans to Europeans and western Asians, yet record many Sub-Saharan influenced traits (e.g., Mourant 1954, 1983; Hiernaux 1975; Nurse et al., 1985; Sanchez-Mazas et ai, 1986; Excoffier et ai, 1987; Roy choudhury and Nei 1988). [/QUOTE] https://www.persee.fr/doc/bmsap_0037-8984_1998_num_10_3_2517 [/qb][/QUOTE]There is lots of reasons to label Ancient Egyptians as Black including this hieroglyph for Face: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES7mGtPWoAAWBP3.jpg[/IMG] You are an culture thief and you are trying to take Ancient Egypt out of Black Africas hands. You even dig deeper then skin color to dna because you know that the People are Black you are trying to claim. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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