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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] Hi Mike This is false. It is clear that Cro-Magnon man never lived in the Middle East, until after they migrated to the area from Iberia. The evidence indicates that CroMagnon originated in Africa, migrated into Europe across the straits of Gibralter between 45,000-35,000 BC into Iberia and then moved eastward into eastern Europe and the Middle East where they slowly replaced the Neanderthal population. In Eurasia CroMagnon remained African. There were no caucasians or mongoloid people until probably after 5000 BC, if that early. The Old Europeans were Black/African people. In fact Diop dates the first skeleton associated with white Europeans to around 2000 BC. The whites probably remained in the mountainous areas of the Caucasas, until after 2000 BC, then people like the Hittites began to interact with Kushites in Anatolia. The Gutians and other "Proto-Arabs" already occupied the Middle East, Mongoloid people were on the rise in East Asia, so the whites could only move westward into Central Asia and Europe. After 1500 BC due to natural catastrophes in Western Europe the white ancestors of the Indo-European speakers led by the Hittites began to invade Western Europe, while another element called the Peoples of the Sea invaded Southern Europe and the Middle East. I call these people of Europe African because they were Brown skinned people dissimilar to Mongoloid people and pale skinned caucasians who arrive in Europe after 2000 BC. The CroMagnon when they arrived in Asia, met Blacks who had settled the area around 60kya who carried the M haplogroup and entered the area by way of the Indian Ocean. . [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] Having demonstrated that the people who would later become "White" people, originally migrated from Africa into the Eurasian Plains (as Black People). The next logical question is: How the hell did they turn into Caucasians and Mongols with White skin. Honest Answer; Nobody Knows! However, Realhistoryww.com provides a plausible answer. From: Realhistoryww.com [b]The Eurasian Invasion[/b] You will recall that the humanoid Cro-Magnon, after having been born by the cross-breeding of Neanderthal and Modern man in the middle-east, some 120,000 years ago. Had migrated out of the middle-east and into Europe and Asia. Those that went into Europe, show no further evolutionary progress, and were later absorbed. But, the ones that had gone into the Eurasian plains, they turned out to be a different story entirely. There they evolved, the exact circumstance is still debated. But we do know that after Cro-Magnon had gone into the Eurasian plains, he subsequently split off into two branches (Caucasian and Mongol), this happened about 40,000 years ago. The old conventional line of thought, was that "These" Cro-Magnons evolved independently into modern humans. One immediate problem with that theory, is how to account for the two branches of the tree, Caucasians in the Western plains and Mongols in the Eastern plains. It would seem that whatever environmental forces that were there, which could effect the one, would also effect the other in the same way. But that did not happen, Mongols and Caucasians have different physiology's. Though Modern man, {Homo-sapien-sapien}, shows the very same anatomical variations as these two, he is much older and has had greater time and more variations in his environment, so as to produce these mutations. The current theory is that since Cro-Magnons were the product of crossbreeding between Neanderthal and Modern Humans (Homo-sapien sapien), the final ascension of "These" Cro-Magnons to fully human status, occurred as a result of subsequent crossbreeding between Modern Man and "These" Cro-Magnons. This would have occurred as the result of the second great migration of East Africans out of Africa some 50-60,000 years ago. This migration resulted in the colonization of the entire world by Modern Man: except for Australia, which was colonized as a result of the first great migration, some 10,000 years earlier. This theory is almost universally regarded as the best, since because of his great age - over 400,000 years - Modern man has had the time to generate many genetic mutations, as evidenced by modern Africans who demonstrate a great diversity of physical traits: Including straight Hair, narrow Noses, and the slightly hooded eyelids, and slanted eyes, we commonly associate with Asians. [Note the Khoisan Girl below, with what we commonly call - Oriental Eyes - Khoisans were part of the Africans who migrated into China]. [IMG]http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Black_Chinese.jpg[/IMG] So it may be, that Cro-Magnons in the western part of the great Eurasian plains, crossbred with one type of Modern man, and those in the east crossbred with another. {Take note of the priest-king in the Indus Valley section}. But, scientist are always looking for an explanation of how Caucasians and Mongols evolved: note the following news article. [b]Study points to larger role of Asian ancestors in evolution of Caucasians[/b] Aug. 6, 2007 A new analysis of the dental fossils of human ancestors suggests that Asian populations played a larger role than Africans in colonizing Europe millions of years ago, said a study released Monday. The findings challenge the prevailing "Out of Africa" theory, which holds that anatomically modern man first arose from one point in Africa and fanned out to conquer the globe, and bolsters the notion that Homo sapiens evolved from different populations in different parts of the globe. The "Out of Africa" scenario has been underpinned since 1987 by genetic studies based mainly on the rate of mutations in mitochondrial DNA, a cell material inherited from the maternal line of ancestry. But for this study, European researchers opted to study the tooth fossil record of modern man's ancestors because of their high component of genetic expression. The investigators examined the shapes of more than 5,000 teeth from human ancestors from Africa, Asia and Europe dating back millions of years. They found that European teeth had more Asian features than African ones. They also noted that the continuity of the Eurasian dental pattern from the Early Pleistocene until the appearance of Upper Pleistocene Neanderthals suggests that the evolutionary courses of the Eurasian and African continents were relatively independent for a long period. "The history of human populations in Eurasia may not have been the result of a few high-impact replacement waves of dispersals from Africa, but a much more complex puzzle of dispersals and contacts among populations within and outside continents," the researchers wrote. "In the light of these results, we propose that Asia has played an important role in the colonization of Europe, and that future studies on this issue are obliged to pay serious attention to the 'unknown' continent." The paper was written by researchers at Spain's national center for research into human evolution in Burgos and appears in the journal of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. [b]Realhistoryww.com comment to the study[/b] As is often the case, these studies are somewhat disingenuous in that they repeat known facts. It has been long known that the Cro-magnons who produced Caucasians and Mongols, diverged from Modern Man (the African), some 120,000 years ago, (see quote above). And that modern Europeans are a product of an evolutionary process in Eurasia: Combined with the genetic material absorbed from the Cro-magnons and Africans that they encountered, when they first entered Europe at about 1,200 B.C. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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