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Were the Pre-Inca or Peruvian an African Peoples? - 4100 BC - 400 AD
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] ^^^[b]Ya Doug, I agree. Even more perplexing to me is exactly what is a pure Mongoloid. When the first "Modern Man" Africans reached China at about 50,000 ya, what type of Humans or Humanoids did they find. Strangely there were no Neanderthals that far east; but they may have encountered Homo- Erectus and Cro-Magnon type people, both of which were Black. Which is consistent with the best example of what an ancient Mongol looked like (that I am aware of), that being the Qin Dynasty soldiers circa 200 B.C. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/Chinese/Chinese4.jpg[/IMG] There is an unmistakable Negroid element to their appearance, which is quite different from modern Chinese. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/Chinese/Chinese_now5.jpg[/IMG] So did the Africans who went to China look like This? That would explain the look of the Qin, but if that is the case, What happened? Did the Whites in Central Asia move East and add new genes to the Mongol stock? [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Black_Chinese.jpg[/IMG] This discontinuity of phenotype continues in the Americas. I really don't see any Mongoloid features in this North American Indian, yet they are suppose to be the first of the Mongolized people to arrive in the Americas. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/Chinese/Ameridian7.jpg[/IMG] But these Eskimo are very much Mongoloid, yet they are suppose to be the last of the Mongolized people in the Americas. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/Chinese/Eskimo.jpg[/IMG] But in Peru it really gets screwed up. The MODERN Amerindian people, have an obvious Mongol look. [IMG]http://www.philwinterphotography.com/peru_page/peru_ext027.jpg[/IMG] But the ANCIENT ones do NOT!! [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Olmec/South_Moche_2.jpg[/IMG] Any ideas?[/b] [/qb][/QUOTE]Mike phenotype is based on environment. And it evolves over time. The first Native Americans were more like Australian/Melanesian/Indian aboriginal blacks. This is what most Asians looked like prior to the widespread development of light skin, which was typical of later migrants to the Americas. They were descended from the same people who are aboriginal to all of Asia. And in China and Asia phenotypes vary. Some East Asians look almost European, some look similar to some East Africans and San(albeit much lighter). Modern humanity is very diverse and all of this diversity is the result of the evolution of phenotypes since people left Africa 80,000 years ago. And within this diversity skin color is only one part of the mix. Therefore, you have dark skinned populations with "Asian Mongoloid", "Native American" and "Eurasian" features, because phenotype is a combination of skeletal features, muscular features and skin color. And because all humans originate from African populations who primarily stayed in tropical Southern climates for a large amount of time, it only makes sense that a lot of the evolution in phenotype occurred among people with dark skin, before light skin became predominant in certain areas. Looking at statues and calling them negroid or mongoloid doesn't make sense because such terms are outdated racial classifications which do not allow for the true diversity in phenotypes among populations. The point being that the aboriginal people with mongoloid/Native American features were very dark. And those statues from the Han dynasty look no different than modern Chinese, even though there were black populations in China even up to a few hundred years ago (there may still be some but I don't know and mostly in the South). And there are modern South and Central American populations with dark skin and features similar to both the ancient statues and the modern Inca. Race imposes boundaries based on phenotype and skin color, which has nothing to do with the reality of human diversity. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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