EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) — Egyptian border guards shot and killed an Eritrean woman and arrested her two young daughters Saturday after they tried to cross illegally into Israel, security and medical officials said.
Mervat Mer Hatover, 37, and her daughters, ages 8 and 10, were among a group of Africans who paid hundreds of dollars to human traffickers to help them cross into Israel, said a security official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.
The guards chased the Africans along Egypt's border with Israel near Kontala, some 19 miles south of the Aouja crossing point, firing into the air and ordering the migrants to surrender, the official said. Hatover refused and tried to jump over the barbed wire marking the border when guards opened fire on her, he said.
Hatover died from a bullet wound to the head, said Imad Kharboush, head of the emergency unit at el-Arish hospital, where the victim's body was transferred. Kharboush said he received an order from a military prosecutor to carry out an autopsy.
On Jan. 30, two people from the Ivory Coast were shot to death in similar circumstances.
Israel estimates that 2,800 people, mostly from Africa, have entered the country illegally through its border with Egypt in recent years searching for jobs.
The number shot up last summer, apparently as word spread of job opportunities in Israel and a more lenient policy toward refugees. As many as 50 people arrived each day in June, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.
Five African migrants shot dead crossing Egypt-Israel border
Posted: 21 February 2008
Amnesty International supporters are sending appeals to the Egyptian authorities expressing concern that three men and two women have been shot dead by Egyptian security forces since the beginning of 2008, as they attempted to cross the border into Israel.
On 19 February Egyptian security forces shot dead a Sudanese man trying to cross into Israel bringing the total to five. Security officials said 50-year-old Ermeniry Khasheef was shot in the back after he ignored orders to stop as he attempted to cross barbed wire near the border town of Rafah, in the north of the Sinai Peninsula.
Three days earlier, an Eritrean woman, Mervat Mer Hatover was shot dead after she ignored orders to stop as she was attempting to jump over the barbed wire in the El Kuntilla border region, in south-eastern Sinai Peninsula.
According to security officials, Mervat Mer Hatover and her two daughters - aged eight and 10 - had been among a group of Africans who paid smugglers to help them cross into Israel. All were arrested. The military prosecutor has reportedly ordered an autopsy on Mervat Mer Hatover but no proper investigation is known to have taken place.
An Amnesty International spokesperson said: 'We're concerned that the Egyptian border police are disregarding their duty in opening fire on people who may have in no way presented an immediate threat to life.
'The international standards are clear: if lives are in immediate danger, then lethal force is permissible. If not, it is not.
'Desperate migrants should not be at the mercy of border guards who disregard basic international standards over using their weapons.'
On 30 January two migrants from Ivory Cost were shot and killed trying to cross the border south of Rafah. According to the Egyptian security forces, a 22-year-old man and an 18-year-old woman bled to death before an ambulance could reach them. Six Eritreans and two Ethiopians were also arrested. On 19 January, another man from Ivory Cost bled to death after he was shot in the thigh at the border with Israel. A Sudanese and a Guinean were arrested.
Thousands of migrants, refugees and asylum-seekers, mostly from Sudan and Eritrea or other parts of sub-Saharan Africa, try to cross from Egypt to Israel each year. Their numbers have been increasing since 2007. In July 2007 alone, over 230 mostly Sudanese migrants were arrested trying to cross into Israel without official permission. According to the UNHCR some two to three million Sudanese nationals live in Egypt; most of them are migrants but they also include thousands of refugees who have fled persecution in Sudan. Israel has put pressure on Egypt to reduce the flow of people crossing the border into its territory without authorisation.
Amnesty supporters will be calling on the authorities to order a thorough and impartial investigation into the killings in line with UN principles.
there she goes the muslim hater. what interest do you have on this site when your husband kills innocent muslims in Iraq. hmmmm???
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
What keeps you on this site? Because you offered your smelly cunt up to an Egyptian who could easily pass as your son?? My god this poor guy will have to endure so much hate once he's in the promised land of America!! My condolences to him already upfront!! Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Another African woman shot and killed by Egyptian border guards yesterday!
They would never have that same policy to Palestinians becase Palestinians would do what they do best!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Another killing! The Egyptians aim at the f*cking heads of refugees! Unbelievable!!
Egyptian police kill Eritrean migrant
Tue 18 Mar 2008, 10:37 GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an Eritrean woman trying to slip across the border into Israel on Tuesday, Egyptian police sources said.
The 25-year-old woman, named only as Karina, had three bullet wounds, including one in the head. The sources said police told her to stop but she ran towards Israeli territory.
In the same incident in central Sinai police detained another Eritrean woman and her infant child, they added.
Egyptian police have killed at least eight migrants on the border since the start of the year and detained scores others, mostly from Africa.
Rights group Amnesty International says Israel has put pressure on Egypt to reduce the flow of people crossing illegally, and has called for a probe into the killings.
The migrants, including many from Sudan and a growing number from Eritrea, are seeking work or asylum away from conflict at home and harsh living conditions in Egypt, where activists say African migrants face economic marginalisation and racism.
Two more Africans got killed today through Egyptian bullets!! Why is not even one Egyptian speaking up about what kind of cruelty is committed by their border troops?
Why not - because the vicims are black, refugees and not worth it???
THIS NEEDS TO STOP!!!
Egyptian police kill two Africans at Israeli border
Thu 27 Mar 2008, 13:12 GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian security men shot dead two African migrants on Thursday as they tried to slip across the frontier into Israel, bringing to 10 the number of migrants killed at the border this year, security sources said.
The sources said security forces opened fire on the two men, both in their 30s and believed to be from Ivory Coast, after they refused orders to stop at the border.
Egyptian police have killed eight other migrants on the desert border since the start of the year and detained scores of others, mostly from Africa...
tiger y is this any different from wat they do to mexicans at the us border? same concept
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Well, tina, it doesn't make it right. They are human beings and been through the worst. Injure them, arrest them but just don't kill them. They have a right to live too.
Where I grew up people got shot to death too because they wanted to leave our so 'great' country .... and I just heard about these cruel incidents much later on because our news got watched over by the government and were strictly censored. We were living but not living, we surely didn't know what was going on in the world not even inside our small country. Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
New case:
Egypt police kill Eritrean migrant at Israel border
Thu 17 Apr 2008, 9:08 GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an Eritrean migrant on Thursday as he tried to slip across the frontier into Israel, bringing to 11 the number of migrants killed at the border this year, security sources said.
The sources said two other migrants, from Eritrea and Sudan, were shot and wounded in the same incident when police opened fire on a group of migrants who disregarded orders to stop. All three migrants were men in their 20s and 30s, the sources said.
Violence against migrants at the border has escalated since the start of the year, with police killing 11 and detaining scores of others, mostly from Africa.
Rights group Amnesty International has called for an investigation into the killings and says Israel has pressed Egypt to reduce the flow of people crossing illegally.
The London-based rights group says thousands of migrants try to cross from Egypt's Sinai peninsula each year, with numbers rising since 2007.
The migrants, including many from Sudan and a growing number from Eritrea, are seeking work or asylum away from conflict at home and harsh living conditions in Egypt, where activists say African migrants face economic marginalisation and racism.
Egyptian officials: Border police kill Nigerian man
By ASHRAF SWEILAM – 21 minutes ago
RAFAH, Egypt (AP) — Security and medical officials say Egyptian border police have fatally shot a Nigerian man who was trying to cross illegally into Israel.
The security official says the guards also shot three Sudanese men and one woman who were also trying to sneak into Israel on Tuesday. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.
Imad Kharboush of El-Arish Hospital says the four Sudanese are being treated at the hospital for bullet wounds.
U.N. officials say at least 2,000 African migrants have entered Israel since January. The refugees are seeking political asylum and jobs there.
But dozens are arrested by Egyptian police and several have been fatally shot as they try to sneak over the border.
El-Arish, Egypt - Egyptian police shot and wounded a Sudanese man to prevent him from crossing the border illegally to Israel from the Sinai peninsula on Monday, a security official said.
The official, who asked not to be named, said police opened fire on the 24-year-old after he refused to comply with orders to stop. He was shot in the head.
The official said another Sudanese man, a 29-year-old, was injured in a separate incident after he cut himself while trying to cross barbed wire on the border.
Egyptian police have killed 12 migrants in 2008 who were trying to get into the Jewish state. Scores of others, mostly from Africa, have been detained
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AFP) -- Egyptian police shot dead a Sudanese man on Tuesday as he tried to sneak across the border into Israel, a security official said.
Mohammed Taher Mersal, 30, was shot as he tried to enter Israel from an area south of the Egyptian town of Rafah, the official told AFP.
""He was taken to El-Arish hospital (in north Sinai) but died shortly after arriving there,"" he said, adding that three other Sudanese nationals traveling with Mersal were arrested and taken for questioning.
In recent months Egypt has arrested dozens of illegal immigrants, mostly Africans, trying to cross into Israel from the Sinai in search of work. Several have been killed.
quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: tiger y is this any different from wat they do to mexicans at the us border? same concept
I don't think they they shoot to kill at the us/mexican border- they will arrest and ship them back to mexico- but i have never heard of a shoot to kill incident
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Another African shot today.
Egypt kills African migrant at Israel border Thu Jun 19, 2008
The most strange thing is that almost every Egyptian thinks it is very unfair that they are not allowed to enter Europe, the US or any other wealthier country as Egypt.
Posted by iduknoweither (Member # 12293) on :
Tina Kamel. Same concept different actions. Yes, America tries to stop illegal border crossings (like every country in the world). But they don't kill people for trying. 2,800 people have entered Israel illegally. About 12 million have entered the US illegally and yet you don't see people being killed like those at the Egyptian border. HOW CAN THAT BE?? Obviously blatant disregard for Black Africans in Egypt. If the US treated illegals migrants like Egypt does, THOUSANDS of people would be shot at the border every week. Egyptians have a strangely blind eye for all human suffering except for Egyptian Muslim suffering (They show a superficial concern for Palestine too on occasion). I teach in the Emirates and I read a practice essay for university admissions one young Egyptian wrote, that perfectly sums it up. She wrote about the massacre that happened to the Sudanese refugees in Cairo not long ago. Talking about how unsightly the camp was, how bad the smell was, and how they brought diseases such as AIDS. I was dumbfounded that that was what all she learned from the crisis and that she would submit this paper to me (I'm African American, btw for full disclosure) or to university admissions. I didn't really say anything; I just encouraged her to rethink it. This ignorance of their (Egyptians) own sins, allows them to cry out against government graft and corruption then turn around themselves and manipulate and cheat foreigners for every penny they have; it allows them to blast the US and the west for generally non-existent racism/Islamophobia against Arabs, then turn around and discriminate against Copts. But like I said Egyptians don't see any suffering that doesn't effect them personally; which is why I fully expect the girl to blame fascist islamophobic Zionism when that essay gets thrown in the rubbish by the admissions and her application rejected.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
African migrant shot dead on Egypt-Israel border
55 minutes ago
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AFP) — An African migrant was shot dead by Egyptian police as he crossed the border into Israel on Saturday, while 30 suspected illegal migrants were arrested in a separate raid, security officials said.
"Police opened fire on a group of African migrants who were trying to cross the border into Israel south of Rafah," from the Sinai peninsula, an official told AFP on condition of anonymity.
"One of the migrants, whose identity has not yet been established, was hit by two bullets," he added.
The official could not say if the rest of the group were arrested or managed to flee.
The death brings to 17 the number of migrants killed by Egyptian police at the border since the beginning of the year.
Meanwhile, Egyptian police swooped on a suspected people trafficking safe house close to the Suez Canal and arrested 30 Africans suspected of preparing to sneak across the frontier, in the first raid of its kind in Egypt.
"Thirty illegal African immigrants were hiding in a people-trafficking house in the middle of the countryside, close to the town of Qantara, northwest of Ismaliya (Suez), waiting to cross the Suez Canal and cross the border between Egypt and Israel," a security official said.
"It is the first time that the authorities have arrested illegal immigrants in a house before being taken to the border by the traffickers," added the official, who also requested anonymity.
The raid followed a tip-off and police discovered whole families of Eritrean, Ethiopian, Sudanese and Ghanaian suspected migrants.
"Traffickers hide them from police, then split them into groups to make it easier to transport them through Sinai without being intercepted by the police," the official added.
The 250-kilometre (155-mile) Egyptian-Israeli frontier has become a major transit route for migrants, asylum-seekers and drug smugglers.
Dozens of migrants have also been arrested in recent months as Egyptian police try to halt the constant stream into Israel.
What you think how much money do these traffickers charge? I mean the Africans don't have any money or other valuables so how do they agree on business??
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt police kill Sudanese migrant at Israel border
20 Jul 2008 08:30:18 GMT Source: Reuters
ISMAILIA, Egypt, July 20 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead a Sudanese man at the Israel border on Sunday as he tried to slip into the Jewish state, bringing to 17 the number of African migrants killed there this year, security sources said.
Police killed the migrant after he ignored orders to stop and instead tried to flee toward Israel, the sources said. Another seven Sudanese were also arrested in a separate attempt to cross the border.
"Sudanese man Abdel-Wahab Abdel-Karim Ahmed Adam, age 32, was killed after being shot in the chest as he tried to sneak into Israel over a border point in central Sinai," one of the sources said....
Egypt police kill African migrant at Israel border
Fri 1 Aug 2008, 7:45 GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt, Aug 1 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an unidentified African migrant and detained two others while they were trying to cross illegally into Israel on Friday, a security official and a medical source said.
The man, who did not carry any identification papers, died of his wounds on the way to hospital, the sources said on condition of anonymity....
Egyptian guards kill illegal Sudanese migrant 16 minutes ago
El-ARISH, Egypt (AP) — An Egyptian medical official says border guards have shot dead a Sudanese migrant who was trying to cross illegally into Israel.
Imad Kharboush, head of the Northern Sinai ambulance department, says that a 24-old Sudanese man from the war-torn Darfur region was shot in the back of his head while trying to get across barbed wire on the Egypt-Israel border early Wednesday.
Kharboush says the man was part of a group of four Sudanese migrants. The other three were arrested, and two of them were slightly wounded in the incident.
Many African migrants seeking jobs try to cross illegally into Israel from Egypt.
Shot in the head again!! Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Middle East News
Egyptian police kill Sudanese migrant on Egypt-Israel border
Aug 19, 2008, 15:27 GMT
Cairo - Egyptian police shot dead a Sudanese man on Tuesday and injured two more Sudanese when they attempting to enter Israel illegally via the Rafah border crossing, Egyptian police said.
Reports said the men had planned to look for work in Israel and had each paid 5,000 dollars to people-traffickers.
The two injured men were taken to al-Arish hospital in Egypt for treatment.
Egyptian police have arrested some 480 would-be immigrants since the beginning of the year. The largest group were Eritrean, with 210 arrested, followed by Sudanese.
Cairo - Amnesty International urged the Egyptian government on Wednesday to launch an investigation into the killing by police of people illegally crossing the border into Israel.
The London-based human rights watchdog called on Egypt to "investigate promptly, thoroughly and impartially all cases in which Egyptian border guards or other security forces have opened fire on people seeking to cross Egypt's borders with Israel or other countries."
In a report entitled: "Deadly journeys through the desert", the group urged the government to "bring to justice those responsible for killings or for excessive use of force, and provide reparations to those whose rights have been abused."
According to Amnesty, 25 people have been shot dead trying to cross the border into Israel from the Sinai peninsula since mid-2007 and more than 1 300 civilians have been tried by an Egyptian military court.
"The Egyptian government is entitled to regulate the entry and stay of foreign nationals in Egypt but in doing so they must respect everyone's right to life.
"There is nothing to indicate that those seeking to leave Egypt and cross into Israel have used force or posed any threat to the Egyptian border guards who fired at them," the group said.
The 250-kilometre Egyptian-Israeli frontier has become a major transit route for migrants, asylum-seekers and drug smugglers.
Amnesty also slammed Egypt for forcibly returning Eritrean asylum seekers to their country despite the risk of torture.
The group called on the government to "cease all forcible returns of people to all countries where they face human rights violations in line with Egypt's obligations under international human rights and refugee law."
In June, up to 1 200 Eritrean nationals were expelled.
Hundreds of Eritrean asylum seekers have reached Egypt via its southern border with Sudan, either hoping to receive permanent refugee status or to illegally sneak into Israel.
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AFP) — Egyptian border police on Tuesday shot dead two Sudanese migrants as they tried to cross the border illegally into Israel, a security official told AFP.
"Police were forced to open fire after the African migrants refused to stop despite warnings," the official said.
The two, who were not identified, were shot south of the border town of Rafah, the official said, adding that a third Sudanese man had been arrested.
The deaths bring to 22 the number of migrants killed by Egyptian police at the border since the beginning of the year. Hundreds have been arrested making the crossing.
The porous 250-kilometre (155-mile) Egypt-Israel border has become a major transit route for migrants, asylum-seekers and drug smugglers.
In August, Amnesty International urged the Egyptian government to launch an investigation into the shooting dead by police of people crossing the border illegally.
Egypt police kill Sudanese migrant at Israel border
Wed 10 Sep 2008, 9:39 GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian police trying to stem the flow of African migrants across the border to Israel shot dead a Sudanese man who tried to slip across the frontier overnight, medical and security sources said on Wednesday.
The death brings to 23 the number of African migrants killed at the border this year, and comes as both Egyptian and Israeli authorities try to tighten controls at the frontier.
"A Sudanese man, al-Fadel Fadl Adam, 42, was killed by a bullet to the right side of his belly during his attempt to sneak into Israel," an Egyptian medical source said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.
Another Sudanese man was shot and wounded in the same attempt. On Tuesday, police shot dead two other migrants also thought to be Sudanese as they tried to cross the border....
RAFAH, Egypt (AP) - An Egyptian hospital official says border guards have shot and killed an African migrant and injured another trying to cross illegally into Israel.
Imad Kharboush, head of the Northern Sinai ambulance department, says the two migrants from Eritrea ignored warning shots Monday and continued toward a barbed wire barrier south of the border crossing of Rafah.
Hundreds of Africans seeking political asylum and jobs try to cross from Egypt into Israel every year. Amnesty International urged the Egyptian government to end the use of lethal force against migrants and said in a report in August that at least 19 Africans have been fatally shot this year.
EL-ARISH, Egypt: An Egyptian medical official says border guards have shot and killed a Sudanese migrant who tried to illegally cross into Israel.
Imad Kharboush, head of the northern Sinai ambulance department, says the body of 19-year-old Abdel-Hameed Abdel-Qader arrived Wednesday at a hospital in el-Arish with a fatal gunshot wound.
Kharboush says the man was a Sudanese migrant from the war-torn region of Darfur.
Hundreds of Africans seeking political asylum and jobs try to cross from Egypt into Israel annually.
Amnesty International has urged the Egyptian government to end the use of lethal force against migrants.
Egypt police kill African migrant on Israel border
Mon 24 Nov 2008, 12:19 GMT
RAFAH, Egypt, Nov 24 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an unidentified African migrant on the border with Israel on Monday as he tried to enter the Jewish state illegally, a security official said.
A police patrol spotted the man near the border and opened fire on him when he tried to escape, ignoring an order to stop, a hospital source said.
The hospital source added that the man had been shot in the stomach, thigh and leg and was dead on arrival at El Arish hospital. The dead man carried no form of identification, the sources added.
His death brings to 27 the number of African migrants killed by Egyptian security on the border with Israel this year.
The migrants, mainly from Sudan, Ethiopia or Eritrea, are looking for work or asylum in Israel.
For years Egypt tolerated tens of thousands of Africans on its territory but its attitude hardened after it came under pressure to halt rising numbers of Africans trying to cross the border into Israel.
Earlier in November, U.S.-based rights group Human Rights Watch called on Egypt to stop shooting African migrants. (Reporting by Yusri Mohamed and Mohamed Yousef)
By ASHRAF SWEILAM Associated Press 2008-12-13 04:47 AM Fonts Size:
Egyptian officials say border guards fatally shot an African man as he tried to illegally cross into Israel.
A security official says the guards fired into the air Friday to warn the African trying to get across the border barbed wire. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak to the media. He says the man didn't respond to the warning shots.
Dr Imad Kharboush of the emergency medical unit in North Sinai says the 22-year-old Togolese died from a bullet wound in the head.
Hundreds of Africans seeking political asylum and jobs try to cross from Egypt into Israel every year.
Human Rights Watch recently said that since June 2007, Egyptian guards have killed nearly three dozen migrants, including a 7-year-old girl.
Please people protest these horrendous killings. Egypt continues to execute Africans on their borders!!
~ TL
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Egypt: 2 Sudanese migrants shot by Egyptian border guards
News - Africa news
Two Sudanese migrants were shot by border police and a third was detained after they were spotted along the border with Israel, an Egyptian security source in Sinai Peninsula told PANA. One woman was shot in the stomach and the man was hit in the left shoulder.
According to the official, the guards ordered the three migrants to stop and when they refused, the guards opened fire.
According to reports, the three Sudanese told interrogators that they were attempting to enter Israel in order to look for work and had paid guides some US$ 5,000 to help them cross the border.
All three have been admitted to a local hospital in Al Arish and the Sudanese Embassy in Egypt has been notified.
Since January 2008, at least 480 migrants have been detained while trying to cross the border, while dozens have been killed by border police, causing an international human rights stir.
New York-based rights organization, Human Rights Watch (HRW), called on Egyptian police to end their "shoot-to-stop" policy that has left "too many" deaths along the border.
Many African refugees and migrants often complain of poor conditions in Egypt and a lack of work opportunities, forcing them to make the dangerous journey across the Sinai desert.
Latest Update: Friday15/5/2009May, 2009, 11:25 PM Doha Time
Egypt police kill African migrant near border Egyptian police shot and killed an African migrant near the border with Israel, medical and security sources said yesterday. The man, who was shot four times in the chest and abdomen, was not carrying any documents proving his identity or nationality, the medical source said. The security source said an Egyptian patrol detected him trying to infiltrate into Israel and ordered him to stop, opening fire when he did not. For years Egypt tolerated tens of thousands of Africans on its territory but its attitude hardened after it came under pressure to halt rising numbers of Africans trying to cross into Israel.
quote:Originally posted by iduknoweither: Tina Kamel. Same concept different actions. Yes, America tries to stop illegal border crossings (like every country in the world). But they don't kill people for trying. 2,800 people have entered Israel illegally. About 12 million have entered the US illegally and yet you don't see people being killed like those at the Egyptian border. HOW CAN THAT BE?? Obviously blatant disregard for Black Africans in Egypt. If the US treated illegals migrants like Egypt does, THOUSANDS of people would be shot at the border every week. Egyptians have a strangely blind eye for all human suffering except for Egyptian Muslim suffering (They show a superficial concern for Palestine too on occasion). I teach in the Emirates and I read a practice essay for university admissions one young Egyptian wrote, that perfectly sums it up. She wrote about the massacre that happened to the Sudanese refugees in Cairo not long ago. Talking about how unsightly the camp was, how bad the smell was, and how they brought diseases such as AIDS. I was dumbfounded that that was what all she learned from the crisis and that she would submit this paper to me (I'm African American, btw for full disclosure) or to university admissions. I didn't really say anything; I just encouraged her to rethink it. This ignorance of their (Egyptians) own sins, allows them to cry out against government graft and corruption then turn around themselves and manipulate and cheat foreigners for every penny they have; it allows them to blast the US and the west for generally non-existent racism/Islamophobia against Arabs, then turn around and discriminate against Copts. But like I said Egyptians don't see any suffering that doesn't effect them personally; which is why I fully expect the girl to blame fascist islamophobic Zionism when that essay gets thrown in the rubbish by the admissions and her application rejected.
If Muslims are such horrible people why the hell are you still living in their countries? Why don't you go back to the pesthole in Harlem where you came from? You have some nerve to be living amongst Muslims and dissing them while earning a living in their countries. Your behavior is typical of people of your kind, ungrateful and hateful toward anyone that is different.
It seems that centuries of slavery and unjustness have truly affected your rationality to think and made you resentful towards others, by the way, do you care to tell us about the blatant Racism within the African American community?
America has illegaly invaded and destroyed countless countries, killed millions of people for no reason and still continues to do so, yet hypocrites like yourself and Tiger Lily come here to talk about killing of a few people across the Egyptian border. Please! America has brought pain and suffering to millions of people with its tanks and nuclear weapons, and yet has the audacity to scold others for owning them. America always blaming someone else instead of taking responsibility for its own actions.
Do you know anything about the slaves owned by American companies all over the world? Everything from the clothes you wear to the plates you eat on and the plastic you use, none of that shyt is made in USA, instead it is made in sweat camps located in Asia and developing countries across the planet, but as an American you are taught since birth that it's okay for others to be suffering and dying in the favor of Greed and Capitalism. Your ignorance and arrogance about the world around you is astounding. Just look at the things you write on here, "ignorance of Egyptian's own sins". An American speaking about ignorance, give me a break! For every finger you point remember there are 4 pointing back at you. Your claim that Western racism and Islamophobia are non existent is laughable and pathetic. Now, you can take your self-righteous preaching and shove it up your racist rear end! Go preach to the American soldiers killing and raping 13 year old girls in Iraq.
Posted by Totta (Member # 16623) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Egypt police kill African man, 7-year-old Sudanese girl at border
Keeping track.... sadfully.
Are you keeping track of the Iraqis killed by your husband and his fellow soldiers?
Posted by Totta (Member # 16623) on :
quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: tiger y is this any different from wat they do to mexicans at the us border? same concept
Actually no, it is no different than Mexicans getting killed at the US border. The right wing American apologists saying that Mexicans do not get killed are lying.
The US imigration control officers do not hesitate to shoot anyone who tries to cross the border illegaly, and they are given permission to do that in the name of "self defence".
Human rights in the US is going down the drain. The police can now stop anyone in the street that looks Mexican and ask for his ID, even if that "Mexican" happens to be a US citizen, he is more likely to be stopped out of suspicion and asked questions about his legal status. Discrimination and Racial profiling at its best.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt police kill African migrant at Israel border
Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:28am EDT
CAIRO, June 24 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an African migrant at the Israel border on Wednesday, as violence at the sensitive frontier resumes after a near 6-month lull, security sources said.
The migrant, who was unarmed, was shot around dawn as he tried to slip across barbed wire into the Jewish state from Egypt's Sinai desert, the sources said. Police opened fire when the migrant ignored orders to stop and instead tried to flee. Egypt for years tolerated tens of thousands of African migrants on its territory, but its attitude hardened after it came under pressure over the past two years to halt rising numbers of Africans trying to cross the border into Israel.
Egyptian security forces shot dead at least 28 migrants at the border last year, and deported hundreds of Eritrean asylum seekers back to Asmara despite objections from the United Nations, which feared they could face torture at home.
In November, U.S.-based Human Rights Watch called on Egypt to stop the shootings. There were no killings between mid-December and mid-May, although the reason for the abrupt halt was not clear.
The migrant killed on Wednesday, thought to be in his 20s, was the third killed since mid-May at the border , a main transit route for migrants and refugees seeking work or asylum in Israel.
Security sources said the man carried no identity documents but was thought to be from an African country. Many of the migrants who have attempted to cross the border have been from Eritrea, Ethiopia and Sudan.
Security sources said police also detained two Ethiopian women, aged 18 and 19, as they tried to cross into Israel. A third migrant from Burkina Faso was injured by barbed wire and detained in a separate attempt to cross the border. (Writing by Cynthia Johnston)
Why is it always black people that are being shot?
Posted by Lucky Luciano (Member # 16737) on :
Because they are the only dumb people to take chances like that? If i knew the border security is at it's highest, let alone an area in between 2 long time fighting countries (Egypt and Israel)i would be damned if i step one foot across that border!! so i would suggest they keep their happy black asses where it is safe, nobody gets hurt, simple!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:28am EDT
ISMAILIA, Egypt, June 28 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an African migrant and wounded two others, including a 15-year-old, at the Israeli border on Sunday, security sources told Reuters.
quote:Originally posted by Lucky Luciano: Because they are the only dumb people to take chances like that? If i knew the border security is at it's highest, let alone an area in between 2 long time fighting countries (Egypt and Israel)i would be damned if i step one foot across that border!! so i would suggest they keep their happy black asses where it is safe, nobody gets hurt, simple!
They are not dumb but desperate.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt police kill two Somalis at Israel border
Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:36am GMT
ISMAILIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead two Somali migrants on Thursday who tried to slip across the Sinai desert border into Israel, security sources said, as violence against migrants picked up at the sensitive frontier....
They shot a mother in front of her two kids? What kind of men are these? Its sorry to say but I think god left the middle east and africa long ago.
Posted by maxman (Member # 12150) on :
Actually,that tatamounts to murder of innocent refugees,maybe its time to ask the hague to intervene?
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt police kill migrant near border with Israel
EL-ARISH, Jul 31, 2009 (AFP) - Egyptian police shot and killed an African migrant as he tried to enter Israel illegally on Friday, a security official told AFP.
The victim, who was not immediately identified, was hit in the chest and in the leg, the official said.
Police spotted the man near the Rafah border crossing and ordered him to stop but he ran for the porous 250-kilometre (155 miles) frontier with Israel forcing police to open fire, the official said.
"The policemen had to open fire and he died on the spot," he said, adding that an Eritrean man who was with the victim was arrested....
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Egypt police kill migrant near border with Israel
EL-ARISH, Jul 31, 2009 (AFP) - Egyptian police shot and killed an African migrant as he tried to enter Israel illegally on Friday, a security official told AFP.
The victim, who was not immediately identified, was hit in the chest and in the leg, the official said.
Police spotted the man near the Rafah border crossing and ordered him to stop but he ran for the porous 250-kilometre (155 miles) frontier with Israel forcing police to open fire, the official said.
"The policemen had to open fire and he died on the spot," he said, adding that an Eritrean man who was with the victim was arrested....
BTW,If the Egyptians had not kill him,the Israelis would have done that!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Ahmad, wow, you truly make sense.....
Migrants shot in Egypt
New 6:43PM Tuesday Sep 01, 2009
Egyptian border guards have fatally shot an African man and wounded a woman trying to cross the border with Israel.
The two were with 13 other African migrants trying to get to Israel from south of the town of Rafah today.
Egyptian security and hospital officials say the dead man, an Ethiopian, and the Eritrean woman, ignored warning shots. They say the other migrants gave themselves up and were detained....
EL-ARISH, Egypt — Egyptian border guards shot dead four sub-Saharan migrants as they tried to illegally enter Israel, a security official said.
The men were caught by border guards as they tried to slip past a barbed wire fence marking the border with Israel south of the town of Rafah, he said.
"They tried to flee and were shot," the official said, adding that two other migrants, both Ethiopians, were wounded, one of them seriously.
Another migrant in the same group was arrested, said the official, who requested anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to media.
The migrants killed were not carrying identification papers and their nationalities were not immediately clear, the official said...
Bloody news this morning!! Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt migrant killings: Enough is enough, says Amnesty (AFP) – 20 hours ago
CAIRO — The Egyptian authorities must rein in their border guards, Amnesty International said on Wednesday, a day after four migrants from sub-Saharan Africa were shot dead near the Israeli border.
"Enough is enough," said Malcolm Smart, the rights group's Middle East director. "They must assert greater control over their forces at the border and take away their licence to kill ."
Exactly. If Egyptian border control wanted to stop the Africans they could shoot them in the feet, legs but no - these people are getting executed for being BLACK AND WORTHLESS. Seriously there is so much hate and racism going on inside Egypt it's not to comprehend. The hunt for migrants has to be stopped for good. Posted by shaxly (Member # 14523) on :
German officer reportedly violated NATO bombing rules
Published: 10 Sep 09 08:09 CET
A preliminary NATO probe has found that the German officer who ordered the deadly bombing of fuel trucks in Afghanistan violated procedures, the Süddeutsche Zeitung reported on Thursday. Merkel defends German mission in Afghanistan - National (8 Sep 09) The war in Afghanistan comes to Berlin - Analysis & Opinion (7 Sep 09) Col. Georg Klein overstepped his authority and poorly evaluated the situation, said the NATO report following last Friday’s air strike in the northern province of Kunduz which killed dozens.
It is "completely clear" that Klein did not respect decision-making procedures, a high-ranking German NATO officer told the daily.
Such a decision should have been referred to the headquarters of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), he said.
Klein called in US warplanes last Friday to bomb two coalition fuel trucks that had been captured by Taliban militants, fearing they would be used as truck bombs against NATO forces.
The preliminary report concluded however that ISAF troops were not in imminent danger as the trucks were stuck in the sand and were being closely monitored.
ISAF has acknowledged that civilians who had gathered around the tanker trucks seeking fuel were killed and injured in the attack, but have not provided any figures.
Local Afghan officials have said at least 54 people were engulfed in the inferno.
A spokesman for the German Defence Ministry declined to comment to the Munich-based paper, saying it preferred to wait until the official report had been completed.
The German government has so far reacted cautiously to the attack, which sparked intense anger in Afghanistan and beyond.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Tuesday expressed her "deep regret" for any civilians killed, but said she "will not accept any premature judgements" on the raid.
The bombing has revived debate within Germany on the deployment of its troops to Afghanistan, less than three weeks before general elections.
seem that not just Egyptians who kill Innocent People, Germany does it too but its all gravy.
Those tragicly killed trying to cross the border at least are breaking the law, while Germans go to other countries and kill scores of innocent people in the country they invaded!!
They probably killed more in one strike than Egypt did over a year!!
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Source: Press Office - Minister's Cabinet Published at: 15/09/2009
14 September 2009….
Spokesman for the Foreign Ministry stated that allegations saying that the Egyptian borderline troops had shot those who are infiltrating the Egyptian borders to Israel, are inaccurate and far from the real knowledge about the situation.
The spokesman pointed that the Egyptian-Israeli borderline is very sensitive and witnesses various crimes, which include smuggling of weapons, drugs and goods and infiltration of individuals. The borderline troops do not stop the infiltrates in order to recognize their identities and estimate the threat they may constitute; the main aims when dealing with such persons are the Egyptian borders security, national security protection, guaranteeing the safety and security of the Egyptian troops as well as implementing Egypt's international commitments in combating all kinds of smuggling.
The Egyptian troops apply gradual measures in order to avoid killing any of the infiltrates. First, they are warned through sound amplifiers more than once to retreat, then guns are shot in the air. Shooting the infiltrates comes after they ignore the warnings of the border guards. Most of these accidents take place in difficult circumstances, at night, in vague vision.
Some infiltrates are proved after their death to be inhabitants in Egypt, they should not have violated the Egyptian law in the first place, especially that the international law commits any refugee, or even illegitimate inhabitant to respect the laws of the country he dwells.
The Spokesman affirmed that the protection of the Egyptian borders stems from Egypt's respect to the international law and international commitments and thus the Egyptian authorities practice their sovereign rights in securing the borders.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
And the number of victims keeps growing....
Egypt police kill Eritrean migrant at Israel border
Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:59am EDT
ISMAILIA, Egypt, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an Eritrean migrant as he tried to slip across the border into Israel in an upsurge of violence that has left seven migrants dead this month, security sources said on Wednesday.
One other Eritrean migrant was wounded and in a critical condition after police fired first in the air and then at the migrants after they ignored orders to stop and ran toward the Jewish state. Four Ethiopian migrants were also detained.....
I have been reading the history of Egypt and the Nile Valley, stretching some 6,000 years back, in preparation for my teaching lectures, and I must say I am thoroughly impressed.
Diehard racists can say what they like, but there is no doubt, from solid evidence, that the Nile Valley was the cradle of human civilisations.
While Western Europe was still steeped in slumber and darkness, the communities of the Nile — Egypt, Nubia, Kush, Aksum and Meroe — were teaching their children reading and writing, mathematics, philosophy, algebra, trigonometry and fine art.
For a long time, the truth about African history was hidden, because those in Europe who explained it had not put their prejudices behind them.
But the truth is that while the European civilisation was later built on the achievements of ancient Greeks, the Greeks, in their turn, owed much of what they know to the ancient Egyptians, whether in the field of ideas or practical skills.
Having said that, we must also lament that the slave trade and slavery were the darkest blot of this wonderful civilisation. Throughout the Pharaonic, Greek, Roman and Islamic eras, black folk were hunted throughout the plains of Lower and Upper Nile for sale and servitude in the Mediterranean crescent.
Some were sent to southern Europe and to the Near East, while many were used in Egypt itself for agricultural and military purposes.
In the 13th, 14th and 15th centuries AD, the Arabs from Egypt had began to infiltrate the Shilluk empire of Funj in the north and central Sudan, destroying property, capturing slaves and robbing the inhabitants of land and livestock.
It was very similar to what has been happening in Darfur in recent decades. It was because of these Jihadist depredations that a large number of Luos left the Sudan to settle in Uganda and Western Kenya.
Slavery, by itself, might not be reprehensible, except when it was accompanied by vicious cruelty, torture and random death. Is it not sad that certain north-west Saharan African states still practise slavery to this day?
But my ire in this article is with the present day Egypt — supposedly the most advanced and enlightened of African states with preponderant Arab population. Forgetting, or simply ignorant, of shared historic glory, Egypt has been cruel and extremely unfair to Africans who visit or attempt to pass through it.
Unlike during the era of Gamal Abdel Nasser when Egypt was a safe passageway for Africans being persecuted by the imperialists, today Egypt is incorrigibly lethal. Stray into Egypt and you are a dead man.
These are economically and politically hard times for many Africans, particularly the Somalis, Zimbabweans and Ethiopians. Some want to cross over either to Europe or to Israel, for all sorts of reasons.
Indeed, illegal border crossings in Africa are commonplace and everywhere. It could be Zimbabweans crossing into South Africa, Somalis crossing into Kenya, Sudanese crossing into Uganda, Ethiopians crossing into Eritrea, Burundians crossing into Tanzania, name it.
Illegal though most of these crossings are, they must be handled with human dignity and within appropriate international law.
The Egyptian regime, under President Hosni Mubarak, has been murdering any Africans who strayed into Egypt, or who are seen at their border.
Indeed, since May this year alone, Egyptian troops have shot and killed 12 African migrants at its strategic Sinai border, who were claimed to be heading for Israel. I have read so many such shootings in the past.
The question is: Why this savagery? Who is President Mubarak attempting to please? Is he the only African leader besieged by opportunity-seeking migrants?
Africa is facing gigantic problems like poverty, droughts, famines, pestilence, unemployment and civil strife. We must desist from cheapening our lives by killing our people like one might kill pigs.
It is disturbing that both the United Nations and the African Union are tight-lipped as Egypt kills innocent African fortune-seekers.
Prof Ochieng’ teaches History at Maseno University.
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Why are Egyptian troops killing so many Africans?
It is disturbing that both the United Nations and the African Union are tight-lipped as Egypt kills innocent African fortune-seekers.
the Egyptian-Israeli borderline is very sensitive and witnesses various crimes, which include smuggling of weapons, drugs and goods and infiltration of individuals.
The borderline troops do not stop the infiltrates in order to recognize their identities and estimate the threat they may constitute; the main aims when dealing with such persons are the Egyptian borders security, national security protection, guaranteeing the safety and security of the Egyptian troops as well as implementing Egypt's international commitments in combating all kinds of smuggling.
Some infiltrates are proved after their death to be inhabitants in Egypt, they should not have violated the Egyptian law in the first place, especially that the international law commits any refugee, or even illegitimate inhabitant to respect the laws of the country he dwells.
Some people should just stop barking up the wrong tree cause when **** hit the fan and we have a boming in Sinai because of the these smugglers then the same idiots will say oh Egypt got islamists and fanatics killing tourists!! sort out you own problems first before sticking ur noses up the wrong crack Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
And the murders on Egypt's borders continue. A poor black person is a justifiable target - racism as its worst.
Egypt police kill Africa migrant on Israel border
REUTERS - 15 hrs 47 mins ago
CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot and killed an African migrant on Saturday as he tried to slip across the border to Israel, and three others were detained, a security source said.
Police have stepped up efforts to control the border with the Israel since May, after what had been a six-month lull in known fatalities and after what security sources say is a rise in human trafficking through Egypt.
The security source said the dead man was not carrying identification documents but three others -- two Ethiopians and an Eritrean -- were detained trying to cross at the same time....
Egypt police kill African migrant at Israel border
Updated: 2009-12-01 16:49
CAIRO: Egyptian police shot and killed an African migrant on Tuesday as he tried to slip across the Sinai peninsula desert border to Israel, a security source said.
Egyptian police have stepped up efforts in recent months to control the frontier with Israel following an increase in human trafficking through Egypt. At least 17 migrants have been killed at the border since May, the latest one two weeks ago.
The Sinai border is on one of the main routes for African migrants and refugees, almost all unarmed, seeking work or asylum in Israel. Egyptian police say the smugglers who ferry migrants to the border region sometimes fire on security forces.
The security source said police did not know the dead man's nationality, but he appeared to be in his early twenties. Eritreans are the largest group of people trying to cross into Israel from Egypt, but Ethiopians and Sudanese also make the trek.
Analysts and aid workers say the flow of migrants from the Horn of Africa through Egypt to Israel has increased in recent months as it has become more difficult to travel on other northward routes, such as via Libya to Europe.
quote: do you care to tell us about the blatant Racism within the African American community?
Would you care to elaborate?
Posted by nanni-town (Member # 17257) on :
quote:Originally posted by BrandonP: Why is it always black people that are being shot?
Some,MANY,north African Arabs (read pale skin) looks at Africans in and bellow the Sahara commonly refers to as "Black African" as the scum of the earth,subhuman or no human. It is deeply embedded in their culture and psyche.All of this to the glee and applause of other anti Black racists around the world.
The time is past due for Black Africans Leaders, and Blacks in general to tackle this situation head on
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Two illegal migrants killed on Egyptian-Israeli border
RAFAH, Egypt, Dec. 18 (Xinhua) -- Egyptian police shot dead two African migrants as they tried to enter Israel from Egypt illegally on Friday, a security source told Xinhua.
The source said that the first one was a 22-year-old Sudanese and the other was unidentified.
The police said the guards warned them first before firing at them but they refused to stop and surrender themselves....
Egypt police kill Eritrean migrant near Israel border
By AFP First Published: January 8, 2010
CAIRO: Egyptian border guards shot dead an Eritrean migrant who tried to slip across the border into Israel on Friday, a security official said.
The official said border guards fired warning shots when they spotted the migrant trying to get a past barbed wire fence. They shot the 24-year-old in the stomach and thigh when he tried to flee.
It was the first reported death of a migrant this year on the border....
Egyptian border guards fatally shoot African migrant trying to get into Israel
updated 6:23 a.m. ET Feb. 28, 2010
RAFAH, Egypt - An Egyptian security official says border guards have fatally shot an African migrant and detained 16 others as they tried to cross the border into Israel.
The official says the shot migrant, whose nationality was not known, refused to surrender after guards fired warning shots south of Rafah early Sunday.
He spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media...
Two more Africans shot dead by Egypt border guards
Bikya Masr Staff 28 March 2010 in Africa, Egypt, News, Palestine
CAIRO: Egyptian security officials reported Sunday morning that they had shot and killed two African migrants and wounded another five along the border with Israel. According to reports from the border, the Africans had been attempting to cross the lengthy desert border into Israel...
An analysis of Egypt’s killing of African migrants on border
Bikya Masr Staff 1 April 2010 in Egypt
Egyptian border guards have shot dead three migrants attempting to cross from Egypt to Israel over the past four days, bringing the total number of migrants shot dead at the border so far this year to 12, Human Rights Watch said today. The Egyptian authorities have arrested a number of refugees over the past month, one of whom remains missing, and the authorities also appear to be preparing to deport two refugees from Darfur back to Sudan, where they face detention and torture, Human Rights Watch said.
“Egyptian guards have made the Sinai border a death zone for migrants trying to flee the country,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “What’s more, the Egyptian government has not investigated even a single case of the 69 killings of migrants by border guards since 2007.”
On March 29, 2010, the border guards shot dead an Eritrean migrant and wounded two others as they tried to cross the Sinai border into Israel. In addition, unnamed Egyptian security sources told Reuters that Egyptian police had shot dead two African migrants, wounded five others, and arrested three more on March 27, also at Egypt’s border with Israel.
In response to criticism over the fatal shootings, the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated in a news release that “the number of deaths in these incidents did not exceed 2 percent in 2008 and 4 percent in 2009 of the total number of migrants attempting to cross.”
“What security interest of Egypt’s is served by these border guards killing Africans trying to leave Egypt and enter Israel?” Whitson said. “At most, border guards should stop these migrants and allow the UN to determine whether they’re entitled to refugee status.”
On March 2, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, said that she knew “of no other country where so many unarmed migrants and asylum seekers appear to have been deliberately killed in this way by government forces.” The Egyptian government responded the following day, saying that her statement was full of inaccuracies and false allegations and “lacked the professionalism and impartiality that Egypt expected from such an important international post.” Egypt has provided no details about the alleged inaccuracies.
The Egyptian government contends that refugees and other migrants leaving Egypt for Israel pose a threat to Egypt’s national security because transnational organized criminal groups are using Egypt as a route to smuggle people and drugs into Israel. The Egyptian government also said that the border guards use force only when necessary, in self defense, and that 14 of its police officers have been shot dead in an exchange of fire with “smugglers in Sinai.”
While the government may have legitimate security concerns in tackling smuggling of goods and human trafficking across its borders, it has failed to justify the killing of these 69 migrants, Human Rights Watch said.
In its 2008 report, “Sinai Perils,” Human Rights Watch documented how in the vast majority of cases of migrants killed at the border, smugglers were not present when border guards opened fire. Refugees, asylum seekers, and other migrants who had tried to cross into Israel repeatedly described incidents in which smugglers, in return for payments, led migrants at night to within walking distance of the border, pointed out the way, then withdrew. When the guards open fire, the smugglers are already far away, those interviewed by Human Rights Watch said. Even if the guards were genuinely trying to catch the traffickers, that would not in itself justify lethal force, which should only be used when strictly unavoidable to protect life, Human Rights Watch said.
To justify the use of lethal force, under international law the Egyptian government must ensure that there is an independent and public investigation into the circumstances in each fatal shooting of migrants to demonstrate that it was strictly unavoidable to protect life. Where the taking of life cannot be justified, those responsible, including those who gave the orders, should be prosecuted, Human Rights Watch said. In fact, the government has failed to investigate any of these incidents involving the use of lethal force by border guards.
Among the fatal shootings by border guards was the case of Hadja Abbas Haroun, a 28-year-old Darfuri woman, who was seven months pregnant, killed on July 22, 2007, as she was trying to cross the border near al-Aouja, 62 miles south of Rafah.
Egyptian officials have stressed, and some witness accounts confirm, that Egyptian border police follow a common warning procedure before directly targeting people who are trying to cross the border. However, such a warning procedure is irrelevant to requirements for the lawful use of lethal force by police in instances other than self defense. The UN Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms provide that law enforcement officials “shall, as far as possible, apply non-violent means before resorting to the use of force” and may use force “only if other means remain ineffective.” When the use of force is unavoidable, law enforcement officials must “exercise restraint in such use and act in proportion to the seriousness of the offense.”
Egypt is violating international requirements for the treatment of refugees in other ways, Human Rights Watch said. Those granted official recognition as refugees by the UN refugee agency (UNHCR) should be protected from deportation to countries where they are at risk of persecution. But refugees in Egypt remain vulnerable to deportation despite the fact that they hold documentation from the UNHCR. On January 25, Egyptian authorities sent a UNHCR-recognized refugee, Mohammed El Hadj Abdallah, back to Sudan. He had been arrested in September 2009 in Ismailia, in northern Egypt, then detained until he was deported.
Egyptian authorities now appear to be preparing to deport at least one recognized Sudanese refugee, Mohammad Adam Abdallah. A second recognized refugee, Ishaq Fadl Ahmad Dafa Allah, is detained in Qanater prison and was told by a Sudanese embassy official that he too would soon be deported back to Sudan. The Sudanese embassy has issued a travel document for Abdallah, and Egyptian security officials have moved him from Qanater to the Khalifa police station, which is used as a deportation center. Egyptian security officials arrested the two refugees in Sinai in August 2009 on suspicion of trying to cross the border into Israel.
Both men are from the Zaghawa tribe in Darfur, and were granted refugee status by UNHCR because they had faced persecution, detention, and torture in Sudan and would face persecution if returned there. Sudanese authorities continue to target Darfuri activists all across Sudan. The two men are also active members of the Zaghawa Association, a Darfuri community group in Egypt: Dafa Allah is the chairman and Abdallah a member of the executive committee. Dafa Allah is also active in the Union of Darfur Associations in Egypt, and in that role was providing assistance to other refugees and asylum seekers.
“If Egypt suspects these men of a crime it should charge and try them,” Whitson said. “But whether it does or not, it has no authority to deport them to Sudan, where they face persecution.”
In December 2008 and January 2009, Egypt forcibly returned more than 45 Eritrean asylum seekers to Eritrea, where they face detention and the risk of torture, without first assessing their protection needs and providing them with the opportunity to make asylum claims. Under refugee law and under the Convention Against Torture, Egypt may not return anyone to a country where he or she faces the risk of torture and persecution.
Sudanese community sources say that over the past three months, the Egyptian authorities have arrested at least 25 recognized refugees from Darfur. Among them is Faisal Mohamed Haroun, a recognized refugee from Darfur, arrested by State Security Investigations officers on January 7 and detained ever since at an undisclosed location.
On January 19, Egyptian Foundation for Refugee Rights lawyers submitted a complaint to the General Prosecutor protesting Haroun’s incommunicado detention. They also submitted a request to the prisons authority on February 17 to determine where he was being held, and were told that he was not detained in any Egyptian prison. Incommunicado detention at an undisclosed location amounts to enforced disappearance.
“Incommunicado detention in state security offices is illegal under Egyptian and international law,” Whitson said. “The fact that Faisal Haroun is a vulnerable refugee makes it even more urgent to reveal where he is and either charge or immediately release him.”
This news is terrible.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
As you can see - when you scroll back to the beginning of the thread - I am following the killings now for the last two years.
Two years and Africans are still dying on Egypt's borders. I am so disgusted.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Totta:
quote:Originally posted by iduknoweither: Tina Kamel. Same concept different actions. Yes, America tries to stop illegal border crossings (like every country in the world). But they don't kill people for trying. 2,800 people have entered Israel illegally. About 12 million have entered the US illegally and yet you don't see people being killed like those at the Egyptian border. HOW CAN THAT BE?? Obviously blatant disregard for Black Africans in Egypt. If the US treated illegals migrants like Egypt does, THOUSANDS of people would be shot at the border every week. Egyptians have a strangely blind eye for all human suffering except for Egyptian Muslim suffering (They show a superficial concern for Palestine too on occasion). I teach in the Emirates and I read a practice essay for university admissions one young Egyptian wrote, that perfectly sums it up. She wrote about the massacre that happened to the Sudanese refugees in Cairo not long ago. Talking about how unsightly the camp was, how bad the smell was, and how they brought diseases such as AIDS. I was dumbfounded that that was what all she learned from the crisis and that she would submit this paper to me (I'm African American, btw for full disclosure) or to university admissions. I didn't really say anything; I just encouraged her to rethink it. This ignorance of their (Egyptians) own sins, allows them to cry out against government graft and corruption then turn around themselves and manipulate and cheat foreigners for every penny they have; it allows them to blast the US and the west for generally non-existent racism/Islamophobia against Arabs, then turn around and discriminate against Copts. But like I said Egyptians don't see any suffering that doesn't effect them personally; which is why I fully expect the girl to blame fascist islamophobic Zionism when that essay gets thrown in the rubbish by the admissions and her application rejected.
If Muslims are such horrible people why the hell are you still living in their countries? Why don't you go back to the pesthole in Harlem where you came from? You have some nerve to be living amongst Muslims and dissing them while earning a living in their countries. Your behavior is typical of people of your kind, ungrateful and hateful toward anyone that is different.
It seems that centuries of slavery and unjustness have truly affected your rationality to think and made you resentful towards others, by the way, do you care to tell us about the blatant Racism within the African American community?
America has illegaly invaded and destroyed countless countries, killed millions of people for no reason and still continues to do so, yet hypocrites like yourself and Tiger Lily come here to talk about killing of a few people across the Egyptian border. Please! America has brought pain and suffering to millions of people with its tanks and nuclear weapons, and yet has the audacity to scold others for owning them. America always blaming someone else instead of taking responsibility for its own actions.
Do you know anything about the slaves owned by American companies all over the world? Everything from the clothes you wear to the plates you eat on and the plastic you use, none of that shyt is made in USA, instead it is made in sweat camps located in Asia and developing countries across the planet, but as an American you are taught since birth that it's okay for others to be suffering and dying in the favor of Greed and Capitalism. Your ignorance and arrogance about the world around you is astounding. Just look at the things you write on here, "ignorance of Egyptian's own sins". An American speaking about ignorance, give me a break! For every finger you point remember there are 4 pointing back at you. Your claim that Western racism and Islamophobia are non existent is laughable and pathetic. Now, you can take your self-righteous preaching and shove it up your racist rear end! Go preach to the American soldiers killing and raping 13 year old girls in Iraq.
You stupid Muslime Bytch. He didn't say anything bad about Muslims. If Muslims hate the west so much why don't they get the fvck up and leave and go back to their homosexual countries. Why are they living in the west reaping off its benefits and making money while bashing the west at the same time. There is nothing bashing about Muslimes in that man's post. You sound like you don't find anything wrong with Egyptians shooting illegal immigrants in the head for crossing a border that doesn't belongs to them. Why are Egyptians protecting Israel borders. Those immigrants were trying to enter ISRAEL so why Israel aren't protecting their own borders. Those fvcking Muslimes could easily apprehend those illegals but they rather see them dead. You fvcking Muslimes are fvcking hypocrites and evil. Bytch you think African-Americans suppose to love fvcking racist evil muslimes just because their ancestors were slaves. What are you really saying in this post you wife of a homosexual.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Totta:
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Egypt police kill African man, 7-year-old Sudanese girl at border
Keeping track.... sadfully.
Are you keeping track of the Iraqis killed by your husband and his fellow soldiers?
So you don't find anything wrong with Egyptians killing a 7-year-old child? It sounds like you're saying it's okay because the U.S. and west kills so why can't Muslimes kill. If muslimes are angry at the west then they should take that out onto the west and not kill innocent people like all those black Africans they have killed. What do those innocent black Africans have to do with the U.S. and their murderous ways? Why aren't Egyptians killing all the white westerners in their country -- oh because they can't. The west will retaliate and kill their azz. Egytpians know who to fvck with. If you muslimes are so angry then you need to turn your angry and murderous tendacies to the real enemy and stop acting like punks by attacking defenseless Africans who are just desperate to make a living.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lucky Luciano: Because they are the only dumb people to take chances like that? If i knew the border security is at it's highest, let alone an area in between 2 long time fighting countries (Egypt and Israel)i would be damned if i step one foot across that border!! so i would suggest they keep their happy black asses where it is safe, nobody gets hurt, simple!
Bull fvcking shyt. They aren't dumb. Those people were crossing into ISRAEL so why not let ISRAEL settle it. What the fvck people crossing into Israel have to do with Egypt. Those fvcking egyptian muslimes are just racist and want to kill a "n!gger." I guess when America comes across all the illegal Egyptians they should kill them. And all those illegal Egyptians in the west should get shot. If they want to prevent illegals from crossing into another's border then they can apprehend them. The shooting in the head is purposeful and they do it to kill them.
Posted by Bettyboo (Member # 12987) on :
quote:Originally posted by Totta:
quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: tiger y is this any different from wat they do to mexicans at the us border? same concept
Actually no, it is no different than Mexicans getting killed at the US border. The right wing American apologists saying that Mexicans do not get killed are lying.
The US imigration control officers do not hesitate to shoot anyone who tries to cross the border illegaly, and they are given permission to do that in the name of "self defence".
Human rights in the US is going down the drain. The police can now stop anyone in the street that looks Mexican and ask for his ID, even if that "Mexican" happens to be a US citizen, he is more likely to be stopped out of suspicion and asked questions about his legal status. Discrimination and Racial profiling at its best.
So you actually don't find anything wrong with Egyptians shooting Africans in the head for crossing into another country that doesn't belong to them. What the hell Africans have to do with American immigration politics. So Egyptians kill immigrants because America supposedly does it. Monkey see monkey do.
Posted by tina kamal (Member # 13845) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Well, tina, it doesn't make it right. They are human beings and been through the worst. Injure them, arrest them but just don't kill them. They have a right to live too.
Where I grew up people got shot to death too because they wanted to leave our so 'great' country .... and I just heard about these cruel incidents much later on because our news got watched over by the government and were strictly censored. We were living but not living, we surely didn't know what was going on in the world not even inside our small country.
i aint never said it was right. but in a perfect world this wouldnt have happened.but there is good and bad everywhere.
Posted by tina kamal (Member # 13845) on :
quote:Originally posted by tootsie:
quote:Originally posted by tina kamal: tiger y is this any different from wat they do to mexicans at the us border? same concept
I don't think they they shoot to kill at the us/mexican border- they will arrest and ship them back to mexico- but i have never heard of a shoot to kill incident
hell yes they shoot to kill ....especiall the land owners at the mexican borders..
[edit] Incidents of Border Patrol use of force In January 2007, border patrol agent Nicholas Corbett shot and killed Francisco Javier Domínguez Rivera, age 22.[23] after the latter tried to beat his head in with a rock[24]. After the agent was acquitted of wrong doing, a civil suit was filed on behalf of Rivera's parents. This civil suit claimed that the United States government was responsible for wrongful death of Rivera due to the fact that the agent was performing his official duity[24]. Mexico lodged an official protest with the United States over the death stating its “firm condemnation” and “serious concern over the recurrence of this type of incident.” The protest demanded an exhaustive investigation.[25][26] Though the incident was recorded by surveillance cameras, the recording was not very clear.[27]
Under the Border Patrol's use-of force guidelines, agents are permitted to employ lethal force against rock throwers if they pose a threat[28]. Large rocks have seriously injured many agents and many agents have resorted to wearing riot gear as a result. In January 2006, an eight year veteran of the Border Patrol, fearful of stones which were being thrown at him [29] shot Guillermo Martinez Rodriguez, a 20 year old man, with a gunshot to the back of his right shoulder. Rodriguez crossed back to Mexico and was taken to the Red Cross in Tijuana where he died twenty-five and a half hours later from the injury.[30]
Raúl Martínez, who is not related to the man who died, said assaults on agents have increased "dramatically" in the area where the shooting took place, about a half-mile east of the San Ysidro Port of Entry. Agents are routinely pelted with rocks, sticks, bottles, and other objects that, if thrown at close range, can cause serious injury or death, Martínez said. Agents have to make split-second decisions to protect themselves. "If I was put in the same shoes of this agent, that's exactly what we'd have to do. The possibility of a rock striking me or possibly killing me — it's unfortunate situations have to come to this point," the Border Patrol spokesman said.[31]. As a case in point, a border control officer was killed on Jan 20, 2008 in Imperial Sand Dunes in California after being run over by smugglers' Hummer vehicle while trying to lay spike strips.
In May 2000, an illegal immigrant was shot in the shoulder by a border patrolman near Brownsville, Texas, and died later from the wounds.[32]
On May 28, 1994, Martín García Martínez, age 30, was shot by a Border Patrol agent at the San Ysidro port of entry. He died on July 3 as a result of his injuries.[33]
According to Rodolfo Acuña, a Chicano activist[34] and Professor Emeritus of Chicano Studies at California State University, "Mexico's Ministry of Foreign Affairs reported 117 cases of human rights abuses by US officials against migrants from 1988 to 1990, including fourteen deaths. During the 1980s, Border Patrol agents shot dozens of people, killing eleven and permanently disabling ten."[35] In contrast to Acuña allegations, Mark Stevenson of the Associated Press reports that:
"Undocumented Central American migrants complain much more about how they are treated by Mexican officials than about authorities on the U.S. side of the border, where migrants may resent being caught but often praise the professionalism of the agents scouring the desert for their trail."[36]
Indeed, according to Jose Luis Soberanes, president of the CNDH (National Commission of Human Rights): "the Mexican government mistreats ‘indocumentados’ that cross its territory, it keeps them in jails, in overcrowded conditions, many times without food, without medical attention and overall, violating their human rights."
[edit] Vigilante killings According to Time Magazine, in the first half of 2000, three immigrants have been killed and seven others have been wounded in showdowns on the U.S. side of the border.[37][38] In 2000, the United Nations opened an investigation into vigilante killings of migrants crossing Mexico's border with the USA, dispatching a senior UN investigator to the border country close to where Sam Blackwood, a 74-year-old rancher, was charged with killing Eusebio de Haro,[39] an unarmed Mexican he tried to subdue for the border patrol and fatally shot in the back of the thigh after pursuing him a quarter mile down the road in his truck.[40] [41]
[edit] Intentional killings It is often very difficult for the police to identify the suspects, because many groups might be involved. Authorities think that most of the more violent deaths were orchestrated by illegal immigrant smugglers, known as coyotes [42]
The coyotes (a term used to describe people who smuggle illegal immigrants into the United States for profit) are infamous for the way in which they treat their clients, who are also often deemed as "human cargo." Cases of rape and beatings by coyotes have been reported by illegal immigrants who were smuggled into the United States by coyotes. The number of times this has happened is hard to ascertain since many illegal immigrants fear they would be deported if they went to the police for help, and because the coyotes often threaten to hurt family members that are still in their native countries.
On February 8, 2007, four gunmen of unknown nationality opened fire on a truck carrying illegal immigrants in the Ironwood Forest National Monument, killing two men and a 15-year-old girl.[43] The incident was covered on the front page of every major newspaper in Mexico City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrant_deaths_along_the_Mexico_%E2%80%93_United_States_border
so tell me in yr safe little worlds just cas u do not hear about the mexicans being shot its not happening??
wronggggggg it happens everyday every damn day but never gets reported.i cant imagine how many people have died and the murders got away with it... Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Egypt guards kill African migrant on way to Israel
By Agencies First Published: April 15, 2010
RAFAH: An Egyptian security official says border guards fatally shot an African migrant and arrested five others trying to cross illegally into Israel.
The Eritrean man, 42, had ignored calls to stop as well as warning shots before being hit by a bullet in the head , an official told AFP...
Egypt police kill Sudanese migrant near Israel border
"Adam Ali Mohammed, 39, died of his wounds at hospital in the north Sinai town of El-Arish after three bullets struck him in the stomach and chest, the official said on condition of anonymity."
Egypt police kill African migrant on Israel border
Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:08am GMT
ISMAILIA Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead an African migrant on Friday as he tried to cross the border into Israel, security sources said. The migrant has not yet been identified, but security sources said he was likely Chadian."
EL-ARISH, EGYPT, June 29 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot and killed an Eritrean woman trying to cross Egypt's border into Israel, security sources said, bringing the number of migrants killed along the border so far this year to at least 19.
The 38-year-old woman was shot three times -- in the stomach, right arm and left hand -- at a point midway along the Sinai border, the Egyptian security sources said....
ISMAILIA Egypt, July 7 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot and killed a 36-year-old Eritrean man trying to cross Egypt's border into Israel on Wednesday, a security source said....
Eritrean refugees are facing insuperable difficulties including; rape and extortion at the hands of people smugglers who have woven themselves into local systems, and face extremely harsh situations when they are caught.
A report compiled by a Release Eritrea delegation that just returned from a visit of prisons in Egypt, where a number of Eritrean refugees are incarcerated, revealed a horrific array of abuse perpetrated against Eritrean refugees and asylum seekers who were caught up in the refugee crisis that has gripped the nation.
Many of the refugees that were visited by Release Eritrea had serious bullet wounds that were sustained when they were shot at by Egyptian police as they try to make the crossing across the Sinai Egyptian border into Israel. Once caught, it seems prisoners are regarded as ‘illegal combatants’ and taken to military prisons where treatment is extremely harsh. Medical care is rarely available even to those who have serious wounds. Where free medical care was made available through charities that Release Eritrea has been working with, access was denied due to the nature of the prison system that often leaves prisoners at the mercy of local prison wardens. Those in charge declared the prisoners must be treated at hospitals authorised by them, forcing the prisoners to find huge sums to pay for their treatment, or forgo it completely.
The report reveals that children as young as two are incarcerated alongside their parents and many others in extremely overcrowded cells, facing the same harsh conditions, shortage of food and medical treatment. Children seen by Release Eritrea were showing obvious signs of traumatisation and shock. Release Eritrea has identified that there may be up to 700 prisoners, if not more, across Egypt’s vast network of prisons and police station cells. In Sinai alone, there are right now on average 40-50 men and women incarcerated in each of the ten or more police stations, suffering from appalling conditions in vastly overcrowded cells. At one point, there were over 200 prisoners in one of the largest prisons near Cairo, although these have since been split up and relocated.
Whilst the local Eritrean community, in Egypt, tries to support prisoners, in conjunction with the wider Eritrean diaspora, this is proving to be a difficult task for the transient community that sustains itself on handouts from friends and family. Eritrean refugees in Egypt warn friends and families of would-be refugees in Eritrea against encouraging them to make the Sinai crossing into Israel; ‘This has now become an impossible crossing to make and many people are getting seriously injured or dying whilst making that crossing, please don’t encourage young people to make that crossing by paying for that trip’ said one refugee who has seen enough victims amongst Eritreans who continue to try and make the crossing into Israel despite the hazardous conditions. Meanwhile the situation in Libya worsens; with alarming reports of the United Nations refugee agency being asked to cease operations, whilst Libya is threatening to send Eritrean refugees back to Eritrea where they face immediate imprisonment and torture. Release Eritrea is deeply concerned by the condition of Eritrean refugees in Libya and Egypt and urges the international community to take serious steps to safeguard the welfare of destitute Eritreans who are fleeing abject human rights abuse in their country.
Release Eritrea, was able to distribute medicine and food to refugees in several prisons across Egypt during the visit last month and is in the process of finalising a refugee support project due to be launched in September this year.
Egyptian border guards fatally shoot African migrant trying to cross into Israel
By: Sarah El Deeb, The Associated Press 24/07/2010 1:34 PM |
CAIRO - An Egyptian official says border guards have fatally shot an African man and detained four as they tried to cross the border into Israel.
Hundreds of Africans seeking asylum and jobs try to illegally reach Israel every year in long desert trips, helped by Bedouin traffickers.
Egypt has killed dozens of migrants at the border in the past two years, drawing criticism from rights groups. The government says it fires warning shots first.
A security official said Saturday the 23-year-old man from Sudan's Darfur region died from a shot to the arm. Four other Sudanese were detained Friday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
Simply do not shoot. It's astonishing to see how many Egyptians are protesting against human rights violations these days in their own country but turning a blind eye on the killings of poor African migrants which are committed by their own people at their border.
Posted by Miss_Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Six Eritreans 'shot dead on Egypt-Israel border'
(AFP) – 7 hours ago
EL-ARISH, Egypt — Smugglers and police have shot dead six Eritreans near the Israeli border, in the latest case of illegal crossings that have become perilous, an Egyptian security official said on Saturday.
GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- An African migrant died Sunday from gunshot wounds sustained Friday when Egyptian forces shot him as he attempted to illegally cross into Israel.
Medical reports released by the Al-Arish Hospital identified the deceased as an Eritrean national, aged 25...
Egypt police kill migrant trying to cross into Israel
EL-ARISH, Egypt — Egyptian police shot dead a man from sub-Saharan Africa on Friday as he tried to cross the border illegally into Israel, a security official said.
How many more?????? Posted by Miss_Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:14am GMT
CAIRO, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Egyptian police shot dead a 38-year-old Sudanese man and injured three others as they tried to slip into Israel from the Sinai Peninsula, a security source said on Saturday.
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Border forces spotted Sudanese Mohamed Sharaf Al Din on Friday trying to cross the barbed wire demarcating Egypt's border with the Jewish state, and opened fire when he refused orders to stop, one source said.
CAIRO (AFP) - Human Rights Watch urged Egypt on Friday to stop shooting foreign migrants who try to cross into Israel, as the African country began chairing the United Nations' refugee agency.
Egypt, a state that over the past four years has allegedly shot and killed more than 80 African migrants trying to cross into Israel over the Sinai Desert border, became chair on Friday of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees executive committee, sparking criticism by human rights groups of Egypt's refugee policies.
Egypt's U.N. ambassador in Geneva, Hisham Badr, denied that Egyptian security forces had a shoot-to-kill policy with African refugees on the border, saying Egypt's border guards operate under clear instructions not to shoot until fired upon. In an interview with Turtle Bay, Badr insisted that his government's critics have failed to take account of Egypt's legitimate security concerns along a highly volatile border region that has been infiltrated by terrorists carrying out attacks against Egyptians and foreign tourists.
Still, the election of Egypt showed more evidence that the U.N.'s system of appointments is driven more by political weight of countries than by their record of achievement. Egypt, which served as the committee's vice chairman, automatically ascended without a formal election campaign. Its bid was supported by consensus by the committee's 79 members, including the United States.
Egypt -- a signatory of the 1951 Refugee Convention -- is host to more than 42,000 refugees from 38 countries, including Sudan, Iraq, Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia. But its policies towards some of its refugees have growing increasingly harsh in recent years, according to Human Rights Watch.
Egyptian border guards have killed at least 85 migrants since July, 2007, according to Human Rights Watch. Many of those who were only wounded or detained were tried by military courts and sent to their countries of original, often in violation of international treaties prohibiting such returns when there is a reasonable fear they will face persecution.
Alone in one week in June, 2008, Egypt deported 1,200 Eritreans to Eritrea, where more than 740 were detained and were likely to have endured ill treatment, according to Human Rights Watch. Joe Stork, Human Rights Watch's deputy director of the Middle East and North Africa division, said Egypt's election threatens to compromise the refugee agencies reputation.
"Egypt today becomes chair of the UNHCR's governing body, while back home it shoots unarmed migrants and blocks UNHCR's access to detainees seeking the agency's protection," said Stork. "To be consistent with its position as the executive committee's new chair, Egypt needs to put its own house in order."
Badr, who will serve as chair of the UNHCR executive committee, told Turtle Bay that Egypt's border with Israel is a highly dangerous strip of territory that is used by arms smugglers, human traffickers and terrorists, entering or leaving Egypt. "Fourteen Egyptian border guards have been killed in recent years monitoring it," he said.
"We are very keen on protecting and monitoring the border," he said, but Egyptian border guards have "clear instructions not to shoot" unless they are fired upon. Badr said that many of those who seek to cross the border do it in the middle of the night, making it difficult for border guards to determine whether they are confronting a refugee or a terrorist.
Badr also denied allegations that Egypt is endangering refugees and asylum seekers by sending them back to their countries without a formal review of their case for political asylum. But a 2008 report by Human Rights Watch said most of those killed near the border by Egyptian security forces were African migrants and refugees with no connection to arms trafficking.
UN officials say that Egypt has been generous on refugee issues, offering a haven for hundreds of thousands of Sudanese refugees that have fled that country's wars. But once in Egypt, the Sudanese refugees have found it exceedingly difficult to secure political asylum in a third country, particularly the United States, which has shrunk its resettlement program, according to the rights group.
"Refugees and asylum-seekers in Egypt face difficult lives marked by poverty and a sensitive political and security environment," according to a country profile published by UNHCR. "The problems are aggravated by restrictions on employment and access to public schools and the lack of affordable health care. A sharp increase in commodity prices has added to refugees' woes."
Egypt's policy on the Israeli border has toughened over the past four to five years, making it increasingly dangerous for refugees to cross illegally into Israel. The rights group also claims that Israel has forcibly returned significant numbers of refugees to Egypt, denying them the right to seek political asylum.
But UNHCR's country profile for Egypt bears no mention of the country's killings in the Sinai, or its forced repatriation policies. It does, however, note that Egypt "has no domestic procedures and institutions for asylum. All aspects of registration, documentation and refugees status determination are carried out by UNHCR under the terms of a Memorandum of Understanding with the government. The situation is not expected to change in the near future."
Sudanese killed trying to cross from Egypt to Israel
Oct 30, 2010, 14:04 GMT
Al-Arish, Egypt - Egyptian police shot dead one Sudanese and injured two others attempting to cross the border into Israel on Saturday, an Egyptian security source said...
You can mock the blood elves (or the high elves, for that matter) as weak or what have you, but doing so proves only that you wish to Buy WOW Gold the martial traditions of their people as exemplified by Thalorien Dawnseeker. This elf stood at what he knew to be certain death and bought time for his people to escape, knowing full well he would die for WOW Power Leveling. He's not the most powerful warrior in the lore; he's not the most renowned, and he not the Aion Gold with the highest kill count or the one who won against nearly impossible odds. But take him all in all, and you can see that few warriors in the history of the WOW Gold setting were ever so gallant in the face of assured demise. Both the quel'dorei and the sin'dorei have good reason to be proud of Thalorien Dawnseeker, who died for love of Aion Gold.
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The state of African refugees in Egypt
By Omnia Al Desoukie / Daily News Egypt December 9, 2010, 11:01 pm
CAIRO: Latika, a 50-year-old Ethiopian woman, stated her life in Egypt is like “living in a cage.”
Latika, who once struggled with security troops in her home country over her opposition to the Ethiopian government, fled Ethiopia in the hope of finding a better life. She came to Egypt in order to find it.
According to the UNHCR, Egypt hosts 39,233 refugees coming from the Horn of Africa. Yet unofficial statistics indicate that there are many more refugees in Egypt.
Egypt participated in the Geneva Convention on Refugees in 1951, and signed the 1967 protocol. It also attended the Organization of Africa Unity’s 1969 Convention Governing the Specific Aspects of Refugee Problems in Africa.
However, Latika maintained that refugees in Egypt suffer worse conditions than do refugees anywhere else in the world.
The 1964 Convention on the Law of Treaties allows countries the right to sign treaties with reservation depending on their states, so Egypt signed the 1951 treaty with reservations on work, education and health care.
Thus refugees in Egypt face challenges marked by poverty and a sensitive political environment. The problems stem from restrictions on employment and access to public schools, as well as the lack of affordable health care.
“Some wealthy people hire us as housekeepers,” Latika stated. “They require us to work a lot of hours, maybe up to 17 hours a day. If we refuse, they manipulate our contracts and accuse us of theft. I know many people serving prison sentences without any reason.
“I used to work as a businesswoman [back home],” Latika added. “But in Egypt there are no opportunities, and I always think of my children who I left behind. When I first came to Egypt in 2004, I had enough money to afford a life. But now, in 2010, I [am] physically and financially unable to live a comfortable life.”
Crossing Over
Since mid-2007, hundreds of refugees, asylum-seekers and migrants — most of whom hail from countries in Sub-Saharan Africa — have risked their lives trying to cross the Egyptian border into Israel.
Local and international media, as well as various human rights organizations, reported several shootings of Africans trying to illegally travel to Israel via Egypt’s Sinai border.
According to Human Rights Watch, Egyptian border police have killed at least 85 unarmed migrants trying to cross into Israel since July 2007.
UNHCR also said last week that it was concerned about 250 Eritrean migrants who are believed to be currently held hostage in the Sinai desert.
Last month, Israel began constructing a 250-kilometer-long fence along its border in order to stop the influx of migrants.
“Reports prove that those who go to Israel are not Cairo residents,” said Mohamed Dayri, the UNHCR regional representative. “But [these refuges] have come from Sudan [to use] Egypt as a transit [country].”
According to Latika, life in Israel — especially in contrast to conditions in Egypt — is alluring enough for them to risk their lives. Latika added that she herself has attempted to cross the border to Israel three times.
“If we don’t risk our lives we will die [in Egypt] anyway,” said Latika. “When you get a call from a friend who crossed the borders illegally, telling you that you can go live there, become a respectful citizen and get to see your children, how do you expect one to react?
“I never heard of someone who complained about his or her life in Israel,” Latika added. “People are working and having a chance to leave to western countries, unlike in Egypt.”
Latika had arranged to meet with a smuggler who promised to help her cross into Israel.
“A smuggler called and we agreed to meet somewhere, but I never saw his face or knew who he was,” she said.
Latika said she was caught by authorities at that time, but was released after she had pledged to never attempt to cross the border into Israel again.
Refugees and the UNHCR
Dayri said refugees’ grievances are not unfounded.
“As an international entity [the UNHCR] should assist [these refugees],” Dayri told Daily News Egypt. “Egypt should be called upon to lift its [1951] reservation, and at the same time the international community should help refugees be self reliant.
“We know that the [Egyptians’] perception [of refugees] is negative,” Dayri added. “And we are trying to overcome that.”
Dayri stated that conditions are difficult for Egyptians as well. He stressed that according to Article 2 of the 1951 Convention, refugees are obliged to abide by the law and regulations of their host country.
Latika said that she does not receive much help from the UNHCR office in Egypt. She said financial support from Caritas, a relief organization, is sufficient to keep her alive, but still insists that a better life awaits her in Israel.
“In general the UNHCR doesn’t give attention to us refugees, living away from your country without your children and in a place with a completely different culture makes life very difficult,” Latika said.
Dayri, on the other hand, explained that when police raided a protest camp set up by over 2,000 refugees in front of the Moustafa Mahmoud Mosque in 2005, it made a major impact on the relationship between the UNHCR and refugees.
“There [is] a disconnection between UNHCR and some [refugee] communities,” said Dayri.
Dayri explained that the UNHCR is trying to overcome this by encouraging dialogue, and keeping in contact with refugees — especially those from southern Sudan.
“There is also a certain schism between public opinion and asylum seekers and/or refugees, because in the public’s understanding [the] refugees are law breakers who go to Israel and who were behind the 2005 incident,” Dayri stated.
‘Like you and I’
“Refugees are like you and I,” Dayri said. “They often bring with them a whole lot of knowledge, experience and great human skills.”
According to Dayri, a refugee is a person who, due to “a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons [based upon] race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to — or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to — avail himself of the protection of that country.
“But sometimes, like you and I, they indulge into breaking the law,” he added. “So look at them as human beings with their strengths and weaknesses.”
UNHCR Egypt determines the refugees’ status based upon the 1951 and 1969 Conventions. Thus, not everyone who is originally from Sudan, Ethiopia, or Eritrea is officially classified as a refugee.
Dayri explained that migrants who are looking to improve their lives have been confused with refugees. Therefore, the UNHCR, according to the 1951 and 1969 Conventions, is not required to protect migrants and does not have a “mandate for migrants.”
The Sudan referendum
The fate of many people depends on the Sudan referendum slated for Jan. 2011, which will decide whether or not southern Sudan will remain a part of Sudan. If Sudan divides, it will cause further human displacement, experts say.
“First, we are calling upon the international community — including regional powers — to pursue [a strategy] to avoid human suffering and displacement,” Dayri said. “Should 2 million Sudanese [people] be displaced and flow towards Egypt, the UNHCR stands ready to live up to its responsibilities and assist Egypt in [taking care of the refugees].
“There is good will,” Dayri added. “We have high hopes on our future discussions with the [Egyptian] government so that the economic and social rights of refugees are met.
“Since the establishment of the UNHCR 60 years ago, history has shown that refugees love their home, and would seek to [return] once the conditions were right for them to do so. Pending fulfillment of these conditions, let us help these refugees live a decent life among us.”
CAIRO — Egyptian police shot dead an African migrant trying to cross illegally into Israel on Sunday, the latest in a string of deadly incidents on the porous desert border, a security official said.
A patrol spotted the man near the border in the Sinai, and he was shot twice in the stomach after failing to respond to orders to stop, the official said....
Why would anything change in the new year....
Posted by AswaniAswad (Member # 16742) on :
Egyptian government is working with Yehudi government thinking they can stop the flow of nomads threw the Sinai. Everyone wants to get out of suffering,famine and third world living are going to the Sinai to get to the closes non third world country which is Israel and some go threw Libya into Cyprus thats the route my cousin took to get to Greece without dealing with Sinai bedu
If Eritrea Sudan and the Horn were in better shape no one would go anywhere but the Sinai route to Israel has always been a Habshi route to get to israel.
Israel government needs to understand that habashi are not migrants to Israel even before Emir Salahdeen habshi were always in palestine in large numbers. Even when Salahdeen and the muslims took over Palestine he gave the habashi control of the whole jewish and christian sector the habashi had the deed to jerusalem. Salahdeen and the Muslims kicked everyone out Armenians,Greeks,Romans,Egyptiancoptics, and gave the habashi the whole area to live in peace.
Go to Palestine in jerusalem there in the habashi sector u will see its still written in arabic from the time of Salahdeen it hasnt changed the Muslims respected the habashi who were always in jerusalem
Posted by abdi (Member # 18622) on :
shame shame egypt, as a somali,eritreans are our bothers and shouldnt be treated like that, i thought most migrants to israel was ethiopian jews!
Posted by tigerlily_misr (Member # 3567) on :
'Questions surround death of Eritrean at Egypt border'
By BEN HARTMAN 06/15/2011 06:00
IDF says it’s looking into incident; examining doctors, Physicians for Human Rights say injuries not consistent with soldiers’ report. Operating doctors have expressed doubt about the official explanation for the cause of death of an Eritrean migrant found near the Israel-Egypt border earlier this month, Physicians for Human Rights-Israel said Tuesday.
In a statement released on Tuesday, PHR-Israel quoted operating physicians who said there is a “significant gap” between the IDF report on the circumstances of the man’s injuries, and the type that led to his death.
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The organization said that paramedics brought an Eritrean migrant to the emergency room at Eilat’s Yoseftal Hospital in serious condition shortly after he crossed the Egyptian border into Israel with a group of African migrants.
The PHR-Israel press release said that the paramedics reportedly said that IDF troops told them the man suffered a head injury after he jumped or fell from a moving IDF jeep for reasons unknown, while the jeep was traveling at around 40 km/h. The man was later transferred to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba for neurological treatment, where he died on January 13.
The organization said both Dr. Kobi Arad, the head of the emergency care department at Yoseftal Hospital and Dr. Tamir Shai, the surgeon who treated the migrant at Yoseftal, have expressed doubts about the explanation of the cause of the man’s injuries.
“In our opinion, there is a significant gap, impossible to piece together, between the nature of the description of injury that we received, and the results of the examination,” he said.
The doctors said that if the injuries involved falling from a car moving at a moderate speed “there would have been an expectation of signs of injuries on a number of places on the body, internally and externally. The absolute absence of such wounds place a large question mark on the description given.”
The doctors added that the most likely injury was a “direct blow to the back of the head/neck of the wounded man.”
The army spokesperson’s office told The Jerusalem Post Tuesday that the man was part of a group of nine Eritreans that was found by troops after crossing into Israel and placed on a convoy of jeeps heading to a nearby base. The army said that troops serving at the scene reported that some of the men attempted to flee fearing that they would be turned over to immigration authorities and that at some point in transit one of them fell and suffered a head injury.
The army said that they are not sure at this point what led to the man’s injury but that all relevant officers from the IDF medical branch, military police investigative branch, and the division command are investigating the incident in order to determine exactly what happened. The army added that if it turns out that there is some sort of criminal aspect that led to the man’s death the military police will handle the issue accordingly.
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