posted 20 October 2005 06:01 PM            

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We can argue over busts and pictures, from Ancient Egypt, which have been damaged and therefor impossible to tell whether they are Black or White,(certainly people whore whigs; soldiers rarely do, and not all of have been so damaged that we must question whether or not they have an afro) but microscopic analysis has been done on the remains of certain Egyptian mummies, a little while ago, I posted one of these studies and I will do so again so people can see them.

A second point to be made, would be to look, at some Modern Egyptians who have largely segregated themselves from the rest of Egypt. I am refering to Coptic Christians. Many of whom, look very, very Caucasian, and claim a less mixed ancestry than the rest of Egypt

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Most Coptic Christians look no different than most modern Egyptians. This is a long held myth started by British archaeologist that said modern Coptic Christians are pure direct desendants of the ancient Egyptians. However, Coptic Christians have mixed with Greeks,Armenians,and Syrians. You are also forgetting that most of the Christians in early times were mostly Jews and Greeks.

The modern Egyptians that have been the most isolated and segregated are the Fellahin and Sa'idi people. Notice also in areas like Luxor the Coptic Christians look no different from their Muslim counterparts. Copts in this area are dark-brown in apperance.

The Coptic agricultural population (fellahIn) in the villages of Upper Egypt and elsewhere are not markedly different from the Mahommedan fellahIn, who, of course, are of the same stock, but mixed with Arab blood. The Copts in the towns, who have always been engaged in sedentary occupations, as scribes and handicraftsmen, have a more delicate frame and complexion, and may have mingled with Syrian and Armenian Christians.

http://55.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CO/COPTS.htm

posted 20 October 2005 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ausar:

Most Coptic Christians look no different than most modern Egyptians. This is a long held myth started by British archaeologist that said modern Coptic Christians are pure direct desendants of the ancient Egyptians. However, Coptic Christians have mixed with Greeks,Armenians,and Syrians. You are also forgetting that most of the Christians in early times were mostly Jews and Greeks.

The modern Egyptians that have been the most isolated and segregated are the Fellahin and Sa'idi people. Notice also in areas like Luxor the Coptic Christians look no different from their Muslim counterparts. Copts in this area are dark-brown in apperance.

The Coptic agricultural population (fellahIn) in the villages of Upper Egypt and elsewhere are not markedly different from the Mahommedan fellahIn, who, of course, are of the same stock, but mixed with Arab blood. The Copts in the towns, who have always been engaged in sedentary occupations, as scribes and handicraftsmen, have a more delicate frame and complexion, and may have mingled with Syrian and Armenian Christians.

http://55.1911encyclopedia.org/C/CO/COPTS.htm

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posted 20 October 2005 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
We have their mummies tdog, we know they were not black africans. As Dr Hawass recently noted, "Ancient Egyptians were North African caucasians." This issue has been settled for decades.

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On the contrary. Decades ago, anthropologists grouped Egyptians as being part of the 'Hamitic' race which also included Northern Sudanese (even Nubians) as well as Ethiopians and Somalians. Unfortunately these bias experts could not get around the fact that these peoples were black which is why they considered 'Hamitic' people to be essentially "extremely dark-skinned caucasoids".

However, many anthropologists of today of corrected these bias mistakes of the past and most people today in the anthropological community accept the FACT that Northeast Africans (including Egyptians) were NOT caucasoid as stated by anthropologists like: Anton et al, Zakrzewski et al, Hiernaux et al, Rightmire et al, Groves et al, Jablonsky et al, Brace et al, Angel et al, Keita et al. etc. etc. etc.

Sorry Hore, but Hawass is not an anthropologist!!

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Anthropologists do not say Egyptians were black Africans, they never have said that. Mansa , if you are an American black you have zero connection to ancient Egypt. You are being made a fool by the afrocentrics.

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Again, yes they have. As far as American blacks having zero connection to ancient Egypt, As a Filipino I have zero connection to Korean civilization yet no one is denying that Koreans and Filipinos have some relation as Asians. And there are some white Americans who want to be connected with ancient Greece even though they are of northwestern Europeans descent and Greeks are southeast Europeans.

posted 21 October 2005 10:42 AM            

Horemb how come you didn't figure out that these two didn't belong to North African Caucosiod, is it maybe because there is no such thing as caucosiod or Negriod or is it maybe that North Africans like these two guys are nothing more than 1000's years of mixing between Africans and Europeans.