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AMR1 Member Posts: 164 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:52 AM
without Migration to EGYPT OF THE PERIOD ABOUT 10000 YEARS AGO, FROM MESOPTAMIA, WE WOULD HAVE BECOME NOT EGYPT BUT CONGO. MIGRATIONS DID HAPPEN AND ITS RECORDS ARE IN BOOKS AND WEB SITES IN THE THOUSANDS IP: Logged |
Super car Member Posts: 1240 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:56 AM
When asked for corroboration, this is what one gets...more baloney!
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rasol Member Posts: 3524 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:57 AM
From Petrie onwards,it was reguarly suggested,despite the evidence of Pre dyanstic cultures,Egyptian civlization of the 1st dyansty appeared suddently and must therfore have been instroduced by an invading foreign ''race''.
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bandon19 Junior Member Posts: 29 |
posted 08 June 2005 03:00 AM
about finding good looking pure africans amr1 what about usher and denzal washington. LOL and many white woman think there cute. But not me of course. IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 03:00 AM
So you are saying that Central Africans are the cause of the Tropical climate in the CONGO? I know this is not what you are saying but it is what it gets translated into. What is really rather silly about what your saying is that East Africans migrated Northwards into Egypt and East Africans migrated North East into Mesopatamia and then into Egypt. They are the same people. However, recent archaelogical evidence points to s Southern origination of Egyptian culture. That means that it couldn't have been you Mesopatamians. If it was then your Northern Delta areas would have had the first bits of Egyptian cultural evidence rather than just mud huts. Basically, I once agreed with you but the facts have changed. Those Blacks like Anwar Sadat appear to have done this on their own before the ancestors of Jews arrived. The same is true of Axum. I use to think Jews started it but it appears to be mostly fabrication on the part of the Ethiopians. It was their own African culture not a Jewish one. IP: Logged |
AMR1 Member Posts: 164 |
posted 08 June 2005 03:07 AM
quote: MESOPTAMIA IS NOT JEWS, jEWS ARE ONE OF THE MANY PEOPLE OF MESOPTAMIA. IP: Logged |
Doug M Member Posts: 54 |
posted 08 June 2005 05:45 AM
AMR1 this is not about a war over words. It is a simple argument: Brown skinned people from Africa are defined by the dictionary as being black. Merriam Webster: Dictionary.com: 1. Being of the color black, producing or reflecting comparatively little light and having no predominant hue. Now, I have posted many links showing how black is defined as a person with brown skin who are descended from Africans. What part of that definition does not apply to Iman, Sadat or Somalis in general? It all applies and therefore USING THE WORD BLACK TO REFER ANY PERSON WITH BROWN SKIN IN AFRICA IS THEREFORE ACCURATE. Politics, religion and culture have nothing to do with it, since the dictionary does not include such things as part of the definition.
You are not proving anything by muddying the waters and bringing up Mesopotamia, religion or cultural issues. The facts that are relevant are: If 1 and 2 are yes, then the person is black. You can apply this same rule to Somalis, Ethiopians, modern and ancient Egyptians and it will always have the same meaning. IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 06:15 AM
quote: WOW!! you are D-a-r-k!! quote: DUDE MOST YEMENIS LOOK LIKE ARABS THEY DONT LOOK BLACK ON AVERAGE YEMENIS ARE ONLY 24% AFRICAN!! AND VEDDOIDS ARE RARE IN YEMEN.YOU ARE ONE SERIOUS AFROCENTRIC TROLL. quote: YEMENIS DONT LOOK BANTU, MOST OF THE SLAVES DESCENT PEOPLE ARE ETHIOPIANS.OMAN,PERSIA ETC GOT BANTU SLAVES WE HAD ETHIOPIANS. quote: THATS PROBABLY A JALABI OR AN ANCIENT PRE-ARAB TYPE, HE ISNT AN AVERAGE YEMENI. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 06:31 AM
Yemenis
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osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 10:59 AM
quote: 1st: I am not Afrocentric sense I still believe Jews originated civilization. 2nd: Secondily, we were talking about people of Yemen as it relates to Somalian people of ancient times. If Ethiopians controlled most of what is Yemen today before the Islamic renaissance then saying that you have ancestors from Yemen does not necessarily mean you have Jewish/Arabic ancestry. Just because today most people in Yemen have Arabic ancestry doesn't mean that was always the case. Hence, the arguement that Somalia is close to Yemen does not necessarily mean there would have been Arabic gene flow into Somalia in ancient times. Do you get the logic or not! Pre-Arabic people??? Besides, Somalia was part of the Aksum empire and was therefore in a position to makes slaves of Arabs and not the other way around. And this stupid Veddoid race concept has got to GO! When it is convenient White people call Blacks all kinds of stupid things to deal with the reality of Black ingenuity. Besides, it was East African women that our ancestors mixed with that resulted in Arabs in the first place! [This message has been edited by osirion (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:12 AM
Besdies, did you get a load of the Jewish noses on those guys. Geesh, Iman doesn't have any of those features. Sorry, but the Jewish mix would ruin the Somalian look. Guess I am kinda partial to East African women. Besides, I am a Jew with African blood and I have a JEWISH NOSE! I don't look like Iman. Besides, Iman looks just like Anwar Sadat and other East African people. Not like us Jews at all. IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:39 AM
WHO THE HELL EVER SAID SOMALIANS LOOK LIKE JEWS YOU WEIRDO. AND WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EAST AFRICAN WOMAN MADE ARABS. ARABS = SEMITES (SHEM SON OF NOAH) !!
quote: Dude, yemenis=pure arabs, and somalis = have southern arabian blood.any DNA tests to prove me wrong? quote: Indians are not black even if they are blacker then black people! everyone means with black = african negroid not dark asians! [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:41 AM
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This mixed-up fool has officially lost it!!! What am I saying, he lost it long time ago!! He has no idea what he is talking about in terms of race and geography!! IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:47 AM
quote: Indians are not black even if they are blacker then black people! everyone mean with black = african negroid not dark asians! [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).][/B][/QUOTE] East African Women + Jews = Arabs. This is why you notice some similarity between Arabs and East Africans. The Arabs look like Africans because they are part African. Not the other way around you SILLY MORON! IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:52 AM
OMFG ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!! Arabs are not jews!! or descent from them!they are distinct and have a different lineage. Arabs = own race. not because of mixture.! I bet you are not a real jew but a nigger jew from ethiopia. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:55 AM
Black = Negroid? Then explain to me why you call these people Veddoid/Australoid/Polynesoid etc:
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Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 11:58 AM
AMR, first of all, I have seen plenty of beautiful pure black African people. Second, where are you getting this ridiculous notion that Egyptian civilization was started by "mixed-race" Africans?! All evidence shows that the Civilization was started by indigenous Africans with no mixture from non-Africans whatsoever!! There was no migrations from Mesopotamia! Hell, even Zahi Hawass gets irritated by people who still believe in that old dead theory!! Egypt was totally indigenous to Africa, no admixture!! Again I repeat for the hundredth time now, There are pure black Africans also have brown color!! Pure black Africans range in various shades and are not just dark or jet-black!!! You are so blinded by your mixed-up mentality, you do not listen to the facts! Thought is right, you claim to have African ancestry, yet you insult your African ancestors by saying they are not good looking!! What kind of mess is that?! There is definitely something wrong with you!!! p.s. Mixed-race people are just like any other people and there are ugly ones too and believe me, I've seen plenty of them! And I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of them!! regards, IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:00 PM
(Australoids are dark skin black looking asian people) Australoids are not negroids you dumbshit all modern day antropoligists agreed with that. They are distinct and not genetically related to african negroids! [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:03 PM
quote: UH OH!! The jig is up for Jizz***!!!! IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:03 PM
quote: How interesting you don't know that Arabs are descended from Jews? Your one of those Racist white people who thinks Jesus was a Blonde guy right? You also think Jews are white people like yourself. Arabs are descended from Abraham via mix between Hagai an Egyptian slave woman. An Egytpian slave woman would most likely have been either Nubian or from Punt. But DNA evidence has proven this. Jews are not mixed with African genes (except of course those like myself) but Arabs are. Besides, I am Jewish and part Black and I look no different than an Arab. Nig**r means ignorant and that seems to fit you quite well. So lets see, what is a fitting term for you. Cromagnon Neaderthal N*g*r boy. When God enlarged your kind I guess he forget your Brains. [This message has been edited by osirion (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:09 PM
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Bigot! [This message has been edited by osirion (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:09 PM
quote: LOL YOU are the dumbshit!! Osirion was making a point!! Those black peoples he posted have many features in common with African negroids, yet they are very distant genetically! So, how the hell are you gonna say that just cuz East Africans got a few affinities in common with "caucasoids" that all of a sudden they are "caucasoid- admixture"?!! Not only are you an ignorant dumbass, but you're cover has been blown!! I predicted something like this would happen! You don't have any African ancestry at all, do you? You are just another WAP(White Ass Punk) LOL [This message has been edited by Djehuti (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:16 PM
quote: Jesus probably looked like a modern dark haired greasy looking palestinian arab.Not white.
quote: Dude, first of all that was like thousand years back and second of all its folklore not reality most arabs are far from being genetically half african.
quote: Abeed + Jew you don't look arab.See what did i tell you, ''i bet you are no real jew''
quote: O my i'm not even black idiot. IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:16 PM
quote: No, n****r means black person, but it is a very negative connotation and slur! For Jiz**** to use that word, he must not have any black ancestry as he claims!! He is probably some frustrated white supremacist. LOL Or a white Arab Isn't that right jizz? IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:21 PM
quote: Yes and most East Africans are far from having any caucasian ancestry, stupid ass! quote: yes, well we figured as much , you are a dumbass WAP Stop trying to claim East Africans and Egyptians cuz it aint gonna happen!! [This message has been edited by Djehuti (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:25 PM
quote: They are N-East African-Caucasoid, Nilotid-Negroid and Arabid-Caucasoid mixed but mostly East African Caucasoid.. quote: I'm claiming nobody. btw Ancient Egyptians=Not Black. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:31 PM
quote: What the heck is all of that "East African-Caucasoid" There is no such thing!! The only mixed East Africans are the Semitic speaking peoples of northern Ethiopia!
quote: Then what are they "North African Caucasoids"? LOL You are just a frustrated WAP who know not what he is saying! [This message has been edited by Djehuti (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:34 PM
quote: Yeah..plus some negroid.(At least i'm not in denial about them having black blood but saying they are pure black is ridiculous). IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:35 PM
The word N*g*r does not mean black. It means ignorant and nothing else. I believe it became to be used to describe African slaves in America and like the word Gay, its meaning changed. My English is from England and not the American version of it so I can tell you the real meaning of words. I do have some Ethiopian Jew but I am primarily German Jew - some Irish here and there. Everyone thinks I am an Arab. As for the folklore of Abraham and Hagai. Talk to a devout Muslim and they will tell you that they make a pilgrimage to Mecca and while they are there they may visit the well that Hagai dug that saved her life and that of Ishmael. Its kinda an important shrine to Arabs (of course in folklore the well just appeared - it might have been something Hagai simply found). Also, I never said that Arabs were 1/2 African. I said that they were part African. Jews continued to mix with the descendants of Ishmael. Some Arabs are Jews that converted to Islam (like a lot of the Palestinians). [This message has been edited by osirion (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:41 PM
Osirion, I'm afraid you're confused. Ni***r is derived from the word negro which describes black people!! It does not mean ignorant! If so, why do whites use it on blacks no matter how smart they are but never use it on other whites no matter how ignorant or stupid! I may not be black, but I live in the south and I am well aquainted with the word! I've been around whites who use the word all the time! [This message has been edited by Djehuti (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:42 PM
quote: nig·ger
quote: Post your picture.
quote: Dude that's folklore welcome to the real world.We got DNA tests and stuff now and Arabians are not half african.and stop talking out your ass Arabs are Arabs not Jews. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:49 PM
quote: Jizz**** you are even more confused! Where the heck did "North African Caucasoids" and "East African Caucasoids" come about?!! There is no such thing! The indigenous peoples of both regions--North African and East Africa are pure black Africans (no Caucasoids)!! My suspiscions are raised now! I believe that either you are Evil-Euro or one of his stupid-ass followers [you've got to be stupid as hell to follow a guy like that anyway]!!! Take my advise, that Racial Reality aka Racial Myths website is one of the biggest loads of Bullsh** there is!! IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:53 PM
As far as Arabs, there are two main divisions Adanan and Qahtani. The Adanan originated from the north and are called 'Arabized' Arabs, while the Qahtani are considered 'true' Arabs and are much darker with different features. Ask Ausar about this. Jiz, you don't even sound Arab, like I said you sound like a poor pathetic WAP follower of Evil-Euro!! LOL IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:56 PM
HA! Either way, it looks like the jig is up!! IP: Logged |
truelight Member Posts: 63 |
posted 08 June 2005 12:56 PM
quote: They are N-East African-Caucasoid, Nilotid-Negroid and Arabid-Caucasoid mixed but mostly East African Caucasoid.. quote: I'm claiming nobody. btw Ancient Egyptians=Not Black. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).][/QUOTE]
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Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:00 PM
Truelight, if you were paying attention I mentioned nothing about Somalis! All I said is that Somalis were pure black African, plain and simple! Jizz is saying that you Somalis and other East Africans have 'caucasoid' mixture as do the Egyptians! We all know this is not the case! He is full of it! He claims to be Arab with black ancestry, but he sounds like neither!! He is just a poor frustrated white person!! IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:04 PM
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Jews do not have this 25%, and interestingly, neither do most Palestinians. What you essentially have is Semitic people mixing with Non-Semitic Africans that produced the people that your refer to as Arabs. It is that simple. Very little of this mixing occurred in East African or you would have what you have today in Saudi Arabia. Get IT! IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:07 PM
Actually Osirion, the problem is that peoples of the Middle East are very diverse especially back in ancient times! And Jizz is a poor frustrated white racist! GET IT?! IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:13 PM
quote: I said only Yemenis are on average 24% African not all arabs.(And the 24% Doesn't even count for most yemenis it's just an average some are a bit more some are less)
quote: Idiot Arabs are not hybrids but a own distinct sub-race aka Arabid.The most pure Hebrew Jews look arabid because they did not mix with europeans unlike most white looking Jews today did. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:14 PM
Where is Jizz? Did he run back home to Racial Myths or Dodona and seek help from his masters, Anon or Dienekes, like the lapdog he is? Is the poor pathetic WAP looking for evidence to back up his ridiculous claims of North African and East African "caucasoids"? aawwe poor WAP! IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 01:41 PM
quote: So Arabs and Jews to TOO STUPID to know where they come from and we need to White boy to tell our origins. Just like we need so White person to create Blonde Blue eyed versions of Jesus and to recreate King-Tut to look like them. This is moronic. Any Muslim will tell you that Mohammed could trace his lineage to an accounter between a Jew and an East African. It is that simple. Arabs are definately mixed people and East Africans are really not that mixed at all. There are people that call themselves Arabs that are nothing of the kind. Also, Arabs themselves have been mixing with Europeans like the Jews. So all this talk is foolishness. I don't need some European to tell me my heritage. Go back to your cave! IP: Logged |
ausar Moderator Posts: 4080 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:01 PM
Do you think that Yemani might have some Persian ancestry from the occupation of the Sassanid period. We know that Hindus have been settling in areas like Saudi Arabia,Oman,and Kuwait. There is even a Yemani group that claims they came from Scythians[people from Central Asia]. IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:05 PM
quote: Hindu is a religious term and says little about the people. I don't know about Persians, but I wouldn't be surprised. And what would Scythians be doing in Yemen? IP: Logged |
Jizan Member Posts: 113 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:10 PM
Osirion, You're an idiot who blaims everything on the white man and black-wash's everything and thinks arabians are half african and australoids and africans are the same race you are too stupid not replying to you anymore.Arabs are Jew+East African WTF!idiot
quote: True, some yemenis have persian ancestry. [This message has been edited by Jizan (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:18 PM
quote: And you're the idiot who is a white man and white-washes everything, including East Africans!
quote: Sounds about as much sense as saying East Africans, by and large, are caucasoid mixed! Besides, there are Arabians with ancient African ancestry!
quote: He never said autraloids were the same race as africans, he was using those pics of australian aborigines as an example of the idiotic logic you follow!!! IP: Logged |
Atheist Member Posts: 154 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:32 PM
This is Jiz and AMR1. http://www.hideaway-usa.com/Photos/funnies/images/fugly_looking_dude_jpeg.jpg AMR1 and Jiz have finally lost their mind. I can see foam coming out their mouth. When did Africans started using the word "dude" and "nigger"? Jiz you stupid southern Mexican mulatto shut the hell up. No wonder you get kicked around by all 3 races; white, black, and Asians. After getting completely destroyed in an argument this is how you try to get out of the hole by throwing cheap shots. Ausar, and you are telling me to be reasonable with these idiotic impure freaks? Nope I react exactly how it should be react to trolls. If I walk down the street in real life and they be this disrespectful to other races and use words like “nigger” and “chink” this is exactly how I’ll react, period. North Africans consider white? That’s the funniest crap I have ever heard of. Only a mutated rat like you trapped behind a cage would think other wise. Everybody in the world would see most North Africans Ethiopians and Somalis of the black race. You are so trapped in this fairy land all I do is laugh at your pathetic little rat ass. You obviously have never seen Asian Indians your ignorance are obvious. Although most of them look like mixed Mulattos with dark complexion some have noticeable Black African features. Why do you think India was one of the very first countries with caste system? Despite what they think they are neither pure Asian, pure African. Since you like basics why don’t you open a basic college text book and see where they came from. There are many theories but none of the scientists think they are of their own race. It’s believe that they are people from Africa, Asia, and many other continent. All races can be trace back to Africa or Asia. Caucasian in a broad term isn’t even a race. There were people living in Africa and Asia 1 million years ago. Caucasian race just like their short history in civilization was just as short as their existent. That’s science baby and if you don’t like go kill yourself. Oh by the way Anceint Egypt being black African civilization has been beat to death it shouldn't even be questioned end of the story lol P.S lol i can't believe this **** went over 10 page. The first 5 page was whether Iman was black or not. Iman says she is, in the world wide view they think she is. Africans think she is. All we did was deal with these mutated rats totally in denial that have no concept of reality. [This message has been edited by Atheist (edited 08 June 2005).] IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:38 PM
Athteist, AMR appears to be somekind of mulatto supremacist or something! He has actually said that there are no good-looking pure Africans and that a black person has to be mixed to look good!! He also claims that the Egyptians had to be mixed with Mesopotiamians for them to build their great civilization!! The guy is sick!! IP: Logged |
osirion Member Posts: 230 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:40 PM
quote: This is what a True Arab is. The descendents of Abraham and Hagai. This is what our historical records show from both the Muslims and the Jews. Why do I have to listen to some Moron that is neither and has no evidence to counter this. And this same Moron will say that the Andamans are not Negroid, regardless of their appearance, but will try to say somone like Iman is Caucasian JUST because of her appearance. What stupid Double standards is THIS! Why do we even bother replying to these White racist. White racist have been playing this race game long enough!
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Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:42 PM
As for ratjizz, it's obvious the guy is a follower of Evil-Euro, he uses terms like "North African Caucasoid" and "East African Caucasoid". And of course, he blew his cover when he started calling people the N-word! He claimed he had black ancestry, this is obviously a lie, no person w/ black ancestry would use the N-word in the way he used it! IP: Logged |
Djehuti Member Posts: 788 |
posted 08 June 2005 02:47 PM
quote: Osirion this is just a religious story! Not that there is no truth to it, but it should not be taken literally. Besides, I have repeated what Ausar has been saying: there are 2 kinds of Arabs-- Adanan and Qahtani. The Adanan are known as "Arabized" Arabs and originally came from the north! They are light-skinned with different features from the Qahtani or 'original' Arabs!! IP: Logged |
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