posted 08 April 2005 08:13 AM            

• Based on an analysis of 377 autosomal DNA markers in 1,064 individuals. (Rosenberg et al. 2002)

  

  NOTE:

  1) Groupings correspond to anthropological races: Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Australoid and Amerind.

  2) All Western Europeans (North and South) are more than 98% Caucasoid, including Italians with 12%-22% E3b.

  3) The single North African sample is Mozabite Berbers; they have 80% E3b yet are only 23% Negroid.

  4) The Bantu of Kenya (14% E3b) are 9% Caucasoid. The Borana (86% E3b) would surely be much more so.
  
  
  

• Based on an analysis of 57 metric traits in 2,504 crania from 28 populations. (W.W. Howells 1989, 1996)

  

  NOTE:

  1) While there are some specific clusters, the basic Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid division is clearly manifested.

  2) Despite their Bantu admixture, the Khoisan (23) remain racially differentiated from Negroids.

  3) Pre-Greek, Roman, Arab etc. Egyptians (22) from the Late Period (664-343 BC) are predominantly Caucasoid.

posted 08 April 2005 02:21 PM            

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on Mar 22nd, 2005, 05:36am, Topdog wrote:Nothing impressive about that and that map wasn't created by W.W. Howells from whom the population samples came from. Thats just Nu-Sapiens impressing his own interpretation.

Wrong. All I did was visualize the output of Dienekes' statistical methods, which were mathematically derived from Howell's data (Dienekes explained his methods in full). I added no inferences or data. I only was make pie charts and plot them on a map.

In some of my other maps, I do play with data and add my own interpretations and assumptions, but not on this one.

And about Egyptians, perhaps they would be their own group at a different number of clusters. But since they were grouped with Europeans at k=14 (the best fit predicted by Bayesian method), they share quite a bit of affinity with that region relative to Subsaharan Africa, apparently. I was surprised by that, myself.

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http://dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=informative&num=1111469354&start=0

I never knew Dienekes was an anthropologist.

Evil Euro has dug himself another.....

posted 08 April 2005 03:11 PM            

Lying is always a form of control. Some people are pathological liars, having learned that they get a rush from manipulating others with lies. But most people lie when they are afraid of the consequences of telling the truth. - Margaret Paul, Ph.D

posted 09 April 2005 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Evil Euro:
The first dumb negro tries to change the subject. The second one attacks the messenger. And the third can't even form a coherent thought.

Can you say drowning and desperate with no answers?

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Validity of your source isn't valid at all, who considers Dienekes Pontikos and Nú-Sapiens as cutting edge authorities i anthropology, especially when one of them say 'East Africa Caucasoid'?