posted 05 March 2005 11:53 AM            

I hope that fact does not get lost in the midst of the business of correcting the distortions of Trolling ethnocentrists.

peace....

posted 05 March 2005 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by rasol:
Want to reiterate, most discussants here at Egyptsearch.com have the greatest respect for all people and cultures.

I hope that fact does not get lost in the midst of the business of correcting the distortions of Trolling ethnocentrists.

peace....

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The problem with people in this forum is that they are too hung up on race! All these racial debates do is attract more trolling morons like the new guy! Leave the race thing alone for once! You should know by now that some people are so irrational that no matter how much weight your argument has and no matter how much evidence you present, they will still deny it!!!

Just give it up, for now at least!!

posted 05 March 2005 12:16 PM            

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The problem with people in this forum is that they are too hung up on race!

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1) Only post on non-racial topics.
2) Stop bumping Abaza's idiot troll threads. (evidently you have no problem responding to race threads as long as they are EXTREMELY stupid, ie - anything posted by Abaza)
3) Start new topics on other issues.
4) Suggest that the moderator remove obvious flame bait threads.

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All these racial debates do is attract more trolling morons like the new guy!

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The trollers are laughing at your shrill posts, because they have obviously rattled you, which is precisely what they intend.

I don't even open such obviously intellectually vapid threads.....so why do you?

posted 05 March 2005 12:31 PM            

But most of the posts on the site are not deliberately about race but about the very issues and topics discussed in peer reviewed journals that overtly or covertly bring in race issues. Check any old text on Egypt written by Westerners and you will see that they must bring up race with their constant talk of "Hamites", "negroids", "Semites",etc. Some books even go so far as to translate "Nehesi" as "negroes"--a complete fabrication.

It seems as if some people just cannot accept what the scientific and archaelogical journals are saying and get all hot, angry, hysterical and frenzied. What's an opinion or idea?

The point though is that ever since the invention of Egyptology, human archaelogy and the history and archaelogy of Africa the discourse--even when only Europeans were involved--was always explicitly or implicitly about human biology--aka "race".

In fact it seems as if everything having to do with Africa--whether religion or social and natural science has to do with race even when no Africans/blacks are part of the debate.

When Westerners talk and write about the huge continent of Africa isn't it a fact that they are trying to make a racial point when they talk of "sub-Saharan Africa".

All I can say is that many people seem to get upset--I don't know why--when non-Westerners discuss topics like ancient Egypt, Nubia's connection to Egypt, ancient Greece, or Mesopotamia. I mean, what's wrong with discussing anything for that matter.

posted 05 March 2005 01:24 PM            

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But most of the posts on the site are not deliberately about race but about the very issues and topics discussed in peer reviewed journals that overtly or covertly bring in race issues. Check any old text on Egypt written by Westerners and you will see that they must bring up race with their constant talk of "Hamites", "negroids", "Semites",etc. Some books even go so far as to translate "Nehesi" as "negroes"--a complete fabrication.

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I understand, and yes, in research I've done in the past, I have read many of the old texts and journals from the early days of Egyptology like Sir Flinders Petrie and James Henery Breasted. And yes I am fully aware of their excessive use of race as well as their biases.

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The point though is that ever since the invention of Egyptology, human archaelogy and the history and archaelogy of Africa the discourse--even when only Europeans were involved--was always explicitly or implicitly about human biology--aka "race".

In fact it seems as if everything having to do with Africa--whether religion or social and natural science has to do with race even when no Africans/blacks are part of the debate.

When Westerners talk and write about the huge continent of Africa isn't it a fact that they are trying to make a racial point when they talk of "sub-Saharan Africa".

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Yes I am also totally aware that even today the Western world still makes 'race' a big issue when it comes to Africa, and yes the Western world still holds many racial biases against the continent.

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It seems as if some people just cannot accept what the scientific and archaelogical journals are saying and get all hot, angry, hysterical and frenzied. What's an opinion or idea?
All I can say is that many people seem to get upset--I don't know why--when non-Westerners discuss topics like ancient Egypt, Nubia's connection to Egypt, ancient Greece, or Mesopotamia. I mean, what's wrong with discussing anything for that matter.

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posted 05 March 2005 02:25 PM            

The point is to use physical anthropology to entirely dispel the contrived belief in Race. Ancient Egyptians were primarily from an indigenous tropical African background. Ancient Greeks were primarily from an indigenous European background. Ancient Egyptians and modern people from Cameroon Central Africa both had/have genetic relationships with Eurasians. Mediterranean Europeans have and had genetic relationships with tropical Africans. By studying the origins of the Ancient Egyptians we are able to properly conceptualize the philosophical beliefs of these people and better understand their society. Ancient Egypt did not exist in a void, it stands as the paragon of indigenous African cosmogonies.

posted 06 March 2005 08:09 AM            

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Originally posted by rasol:
The answer is he is a Sicilian according to the good people at Siciliani.com.

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No, the answer is that your reading comprehension is low. Since any photo can be uploaded to that website by anyone, the good people there are in no position to determine who's Sicilian. Case in point: This girl posts at various message boards I frequent. She's actually an American of Sicilian, Argentine, Romanian and Gypsy descent. She's also tanned reddish-brown in that photo. But the folks at Siciliani.com can't possibly know any of that, yet your dumb ass would come along and post her as a "Somali Sicilian".

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Why don't you write them like you did to the folks at bestofsicily.com when they spoke the truth which also enraged you?

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Still drowning, huh slave?