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Evil Euro Member Posts: 298 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 30 January 2005 07:41 AM quote: Originally posted by rasol: In truth, not even Southern Europeans who are of heterogeneous African and European origins are regarded as 'racial hybrids.' Exactly. Because their "African" component is pre-historic East African Caucasoid, and not post-1000 BC Bantu-expansion Negroid. You're finally starting to get it, in spite of yourself. [This message has been edited by Evil Euro (edited 30 January 2005).] IP: Logged
HERU Member Posts: 175 Registered: Dec 2004	posted 30 January 2005 08:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Exactly. Because their "African" component is pre-historic East African Caucasoid, LMAO Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? [This message has been edited by HERU (edited 30 January 2005).] IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 30 January 2005 09:13 AM Thought Writes: It is obvious that the Eurocentric ruse is on its last leg. If EuroDisney is the 'state of the ideology' that would certainly seem to be the case. ...more of a death scream than a coherent argument, really. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 04:23 AM quote: You're finally starting to get it We were with it from the start, Actually. * Southern Europeans have a diverse ancestry, which includes Black African ancestry. * Most Southern Europeans can accept the truth, such as “. Among 64 individuals from 21 families with at least one known hemoglobin S carrier, African blood group markers were detected in 7 (11%). These findings indicate that hemoglobin S is only one of multiple African genes present in contemporary Sicilian populations " , http://bestofsicily.com is but one example. * However, a few sad cases cannot and so dedicate themselves to the needless futile effort to convince the world of the non starter of racial purity. * Integrity is irrelevant to these few who profess against massive evidence to the contrary, much to the embarrassment of their fellow Medit(s). Yes, I think we’ve got it, thanks! IP: Logged
kenndo Member Posts: 486 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 31 January 2005 06:36 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Exactly. Because their "African" component is pre-historic East African Caucasoid, and not post-1000 BC Bantu-expansion Negroid. You're finally starting to get it, in spite of yourself. [This message has been edited by Evil Euro (edited 30 January 2005).] THE COMMENT ABOVE IS FALSE AND NONSENSE. IP: Logged
Evil Euro Member Posts: 298 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 31 January 2005 06:43 AM quote: Originally posted by rasol: We were with it from the start, Actually. * Southern Europeans have a diverse ancestry, which includes Black African ancestry. * Most Southern Europeans can accept the truth, such as “. Among 64 individuals from 21 families with at least one known hemoglobin S carrier, African blood group markers were detected in 7 (11%). These findings indicate that hemoglobin S is only one of multiple African genes present in contemporary Sicilian populations " , http://bestofsicily.com is but one example. * However, a few sad cases cannot and so dedicate themselves to the needless futile effort to convince the world of the non starter of racial purity. * Integrity is irrelevant to these few who profess against massive evidence to the contrary, much to the embarrassment of their fellow Medit(s). Yes, I think we’ve got it, thanks! Keep quoting from websites that have been shown to be dishonest. Keep misunderstanding data that's been explained to you a hundred times. And keep nursing your inferiority complex by believing that the whole world is "Black African". Go ahead and keep doing all of that stuff. It only reflects poorly on you. IP: Logged
Roy_2k5 Member Posts: 211 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 31 January 2005 06:51 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Keep quoting from websites that have been shown to be dishonest. Keep misunderstanding data that's been explained to you a hundred times. And keep nursing your inferiority complex by believing that the whole world is "Black African". Go ahead and keep doing all of that stuff. It only reflects poorly on you. LOL. So you are telling him to quite quoting Western (White) Websites? God, you are a twisted loser. You are the one that started this thread, and it is people like you that claim that East-Africans are hybrid. The only hybrids are the Southern Europeans. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 07:00 AM quote: Keep quoting from websites that have been shown to be dishonest. When we want to illustrate dishonesty, we quote your website. quote: And keep nursing your inferiority complex by believing that the whole world is "Black African". Who is saying that? Best of Sicily? No. Me? No. How can you hear something no one is saying? Because of your own neurotic fears. Only confronting your own fears honestly will solve your problem. Here endth the lesson. IP: Logged
S.Mohammad Member Posts: 333 Registered: Apr 2004	posted 31 January 2005 08:23 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Exactly. Because their "African" component is pre-historic East African Caucasoid, and not post-1000 BC Bantu-expansion Negroid. You're finally starting to get it, in spite of yourself. [This message has been edited by Evil Euro (edited 30 January 2005).] [b]pre-historic East African Caucasoid[/quote] Thats hit doesn't even exist, keep dreaming. using your logic, prehistoric Europeans(Cro-Magnons) resembled modern Negroids more than they do modern Europeans, so Europeans prehistoric Negroid ancestry. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 09:36 AM African Exodus -Christopher Stringer "Nor does the picture get any clearer when we move on to the Cro-Magnons, the presumed ancestors of modern Europeans. Some were more like present-day Australians or Africans, judged by objective anatomical observations..." Good point S. Mohammad. IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:23 AM We are waiting for the negroid danes to show up on this board. i come here every day for a good laugh. this board is scholarship out of a cereal box. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:28 AM quote: i come here every day for a good laugh. Except you often get enraged and start crying. Then we have a good laugh. ps - your homework assignment is way overdue. [This message has been edited by rasol (edited 31 January 2005).] IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:32 AM you need to come up with a new line rasol, that one is getting old. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:39 AM quote: Originally posted by Horemheb: you need to come up with a new line rasol, that one is getting old. What's old is your inability to ever say anything remotely relevant to the forum topic. Proving I guess,that there's no fool like an old fool, eh professor? IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:41 AM Geeez, that is another one of your standard lines. rasol has about 5 basic lines he uses on every poster who disagrees with. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 10:47 AM Aww, the professor is starting to cry again. That must mean it's time for your daily irrelevant rant, followed by a drinkie and a nap. Isn't that the usual routine? IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 31 January 2005 11:55 AM once again, rasol is carping one of his five basic insults. The question is, is it an insult when nobody on the board respects him enough to be insulted??? IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 31 January 2005 12:01 PM quote: The question is, is it an insult when nobody on the board respects him enough to be insulted??? ....except you Professor? And, if you even have to ask, then the answer is yes. IP: Logged
Arsalan Junior Member Posts: 19 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 31 January 2005 01:34 PM This is for both Horemheb and Evil Euro. Why are you gentlemen so bent upon proving that all advanced societies, as you percieve them, in Africa were not the result of so-called Black Africans? Why are you so desprate to claim the history of a people you're not apart of. Why can't you take pride in the history and culture of your own? Do you even know about your own history and heritage? Is your hate and contempt of black skinned people so strong that the thought of us building anything of import that unfathomable? Or is it that you, like so many Eurocentrists before you, have realized that African civilization and migration is seed of all you call your own? Perhaps you've thought of what this means and overtly implies. You're words, quotes, and weak "scientific" explanations are just a desprate attempt to reconsile the mounting evidence to the truth. You are not supreme, you're not even special. And your period of dominance is no hallmark. Civilizations and empires come and they go. And in each case they boast their own superiority over others. My suggestion to you, make use of all this energy you have and seek out truth. Stop running from it, because your comments and concepts are base and transparent to all who employ reason. I'm not responding to anymore of your posts. I suggest everyone else do the same. What do we achieve other than wasting our valuable time. The time has come to ignore distraction and focus on real topics. Thank you, Arsalan IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 31 January 2005 02:01 PM Arslan, More distortion. First, there is no such thing as a Eurocentric Second, I did not say I did not like black skinned people, you said that and you said it because I do not agree with you. Thirdly, The only real topic on this board is race so I am focused on that topic. This is NOT a history board and never has been. Fourthly, I give black Africans credit for everything the have done, I do not give them credit for AE, nor do most scholars. IP: Logged
Super car Member Posts: 811 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 31 January 2005 02:23 PM quote: Arsalan: This is for both Horemheb and Evil Euro. Why can't you take pride in the history and culture of your own? He doesn't. There is no Europe civilization to speak of from Early "unified" Egypt to its Middle period. By the time a complex civilization is heard of in Europe, Egypt was basically approaching the decline of the dynastic period. That is why he is here, claiming that he doesn't give credit to Africans. This of course doesn't matter, Facts need no approval from him or anyone for that matter. quote: Arsalan: Or is it that you, like so many Eurocentrists before you, have realized that African civilization and migration is seed of all you call your own? Bingo! quote: Arsalan: You're words, quotes, and weak "scientific" explanations are just a desprate attempt to reconsile the mounting evidence to the truth. Never provided, nor will ever provide "scientific", much less up-to-date authoritative source. The two "references" he did provide, have descended into irrelevancy, just as the meaningless geopolitical crap he spams the board with. quote: Arsalan: My suggestion to you, make use of all this energy you have and seek out truth. Stop running from it...The time has come to ignore distraction and focus on real topics. Amen to that. [This message has been edited by Super car (edited 31 January 2005).] IP: Logged
Roy_2k5 Member Posts: 211 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 31 January 2005 04:28 PM quote: Originally posted by Horemheb: Arslan, More distortion. First, there is no such thing as a Eurocentric The Eurocentrists include people like Hitler, taking words like Arya turning it to Aryan and labelling Nordes as Aryans. The first Aryas include Shiva, Krishna, etc, all that are Black skinned. Eurocentrist take terms that were used by dark skinned people, and claim it as their own, along with their civilization. Eurocentrists don't exist in your twisted mind. quote: Second, I did not say I did not like black skinned people, you said that and you said it because I do not agree with you. Don't kid yourself, you said earlier that Blacks haven't created anything. There is no need to lie, and fall back. I am pretty sure just like many whites, you hate Blacks, but also the Black 'Caucasoids' that you try to include into your rediculous racial class. quote: [b'Thirdly, The only real topic on this board is race so I am focused on that topic. This is NOT a history board and never has been.[/b] You mean only topics you guys created was on race. If you observe many of the threads initiated by the 'Afrocentrics' it was not about race at all. Also since nuts like you believe that Egypt was Nordic, we really do need to kill that rediculous claim. It is pretty much accepted that Egypt is Black by Western/White journels. quote: Fourthly, I give black Africans credit for everything the have done, I do not give them credit for AE, nor do most scholars. No you did not. You claimed that Blacks did not create anything. You were the one that was claiming that Timbuktu didn't match the almight Roman Empire. You came here believing that Nordic Europe had greater ancient civilizations than Sub-Saharan Africa. Wait a sec, is there even any great ancient Nordic civilizations? [This message has been edited by Roy_2k5 (edited 31 January 2005).] IP: Logged
Evil Euro Member Posts: 298 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 01 February 2005 07:00 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: believing that the whole world is "Black African" quote: Originally posted by rasol: Who is saying that? Um, Afronuts, that's who. You should know seeing as you're one of them. Since I've been here, you crackpots have blackened Egyptians, Berbers, Moors, Greeks, Spaniards, Sicilians, Englishmen named Moore, Norwegians, Cro-Magnons, pre-historic East Africans, Sumerians, Dravidians and Native Americans. Where does it end? And how does it differ from what the Aryanists do? IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 01 February 2005 07:17 AM quote: Um, Afronuts, that's who. Clearly not what Best Of Sicily, Heirnaux, SOY Keita or Stephen Gould are saying, and clearly not what I'm saying either. Total straw attack and sign of debate bankruptcy, like something Professor Horemheb would stoop to. Boooo. IP: Logged
Thought2 Member Posts: 1368 Registered: May 2004	posted 01 February 2005 10:01 PM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Since I've been here, you crackpots have blackened Egyptians, Berbers, Moors, Greeks, Spaniards, Sicilians, Englishmen named Moore, Norwegians, Cro-Magnons, pre-historic East Africans, Sumerians, Dravidians and Native Americans. Where does it end? And how does it differ from what the Aryanists do? Thought Writes: The M35 lineages and the Benin Sickle Cell Haplotype present clear evidence for the migration of tropical African people into southern Europe within the Holocene. This does not mean that southern European's were/are Black, however it does mean the cultures of that region were substantially influenced by people from Sub-Saharan Africa. IP: Logged
Evil Euro Member Posts: 298 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 07:24 AM quote: Originally posted by Thought2: Thought Writes: The M35 lineages and the Benin Sickle Cell Haplotype present clear evidence for the migration of tropical African people into southern Europe within the Holocene. This does not mean that southern European's were/are Black, however it does mean the cultures of that region were substantially influenced by people from Sub-Saharan Africa. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You're the king of the Afronuts! M35 was spread by Neolithic Caucasoids from the Near East, and sickle cell entered Europe indirectly via pre-historic Caucasoids from North Africa. The only Negroes ever to set foot in Europe were slaves. I know you desperately want to be associated with the great civilizations of the Mediterranean basin, because you're so envious of them and ashamed of your tribal roots. But your people are nothing more than West African barbarians. That's all they ever were, and that's all they ever will be. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 02 February 2005 07:51 AM quote: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! translation: total panic. quote: M35 was spread by Neolithic Caucasoids from the Near East translation: * knowing M35 originated in Africa among the direct ancestors of the Oromo/Somali/Borano. * knowing that the skeletal remains of ancient East Africans are somatically distinct from Europeans. * knowing that genetically, M35 did not reach Europe for some 20,000 years after its Black African origin as admixture to the Southern Europe's heterogeneous population...... simply cry 'caucasoid' , a complete OXYMORON as applied to indigenous Black East Africans...and be done with it. quote: and sickle cell entered Europe indirectly via pre-historic Caucasoids translation: refuse to even say Benin sickle cell, indeed pronounce "Benin sickle cell" causasoid as well, and so confess the depths of his intellectual dispair and total disregard for reality. quote: The only Negroes ever to set foot in Europe were slaves. translation: add hyperbole to flame the discussion. [like something Professor Horemheb would do], and hope they don't realise that he is attempting to insult his own Southern European ancestry, and not anyone else's. [This message has been edited by rasol (edited 02 February 2005).] IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 08:02 AM Clearly the few blacks who have turned up in Europe were probably slaves. obviouly there were some exceptions and we can count on the mythology experts here to come up with them. IP: Logged
kenndo Member Posts: 486 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 02 February 2005 08:04 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You're the king of the Afronuts! M35 was spread by Neolithic [b]Caucasoids from the Near East, and sickle cell entered Europe indirectly via pre-historic Caucasoids from North Africa. The only Negroes ever to set foot in Europe were slaves. I know you desperately want to be associated with the great civilizations of the Mediterranean basin, because you're so envious of them and ashamed of your tribal roots. But your people are nothing more than West African barbarians. That's all they ever were, and that's all they ever will be. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.[/B] THE COMMENTS ABOVE ARE NON-SENSE AND FALSE. it is amazing how some folks still believe this crap . IP: Logged
Super car Member Posts: 811 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 10:14 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You're the king of the Afronuts! M35 was spread by Neolithic Caucasoids from the Near East, and sickle cell entered Europe indirectly via pre-historic Caucasoids from North Africa. The only Negroes ever to set foot in Europe were slaves. I know you desperately want to be associated with the great civilizations of the Mediterranean basin, because you're so envious of them and ashamed of your tribal roots. But your people are nothing more than West African barbarians. That's all they ever were, and that's all they ever will be. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth. My God, he's truly lost it now. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 10:20 AM to euro evil. as i have said to abaza and horemheb you only need to look at the busts of the dynastic and old kingdom pharoahs to come to the conclusion the ancient egyptians belonged to the african race. look them up now. IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 10:27 AM fromashes...how about the bust of thutmose III with an acquline nose. That is one that is never posted here. Hatchepsut's statues hardly show an African woman. Even Tut's statues overwhelming show a non African face. this AE race issue has been settle years ago. Most of what is displayed here is Nubian and very very selective. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 10:33 AM thutmoses 111 is black the bust you saw with the nose isnt even him look it up and tell me where you saw the pic, ill try and get the authentic pic for you, any way thats nearly 2000 years after the first pharoah. IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 10:35 AM Thutmose III was not black, nor were any of the 18th Dynasy Kings. There was a Nubian dynasty which ruled several hundred years later but those were the only black kings in AE history. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 11:07 AM this isnt the one im trying to find on the net but for now. http://www.clevelandart.org/archive/pharaoh/photos/photo11.html ill try and find the proper one IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 11:12 AM fromashes, You know if you did a bust of Yassr Arafat it might well look black becuse he had somewhat full lips. The problem here is that only the most African looking busts get posted much by these radicals. The vast majority of stuff out there show just the opposite. IP: Logged
rasol Member Posts: 2879 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 02 February 2005 12:25 PM fromashes, There is a photo of an X-ray of Thutmosis IV skull in: Egypt, Child of Africa. It is pronouncedly prognathous. (African) Kent Weeks X-rayed many of the 18th Dynasty mummies and noted their affinity with Nubians. Professor Horemheb knows this, because Ausar has gone over it before with him many times. fyi: Just play with Horemheb, who is a complete idiot. While you're at it, you can share useful information with others, but he will manage to somehow stay stupid, in spite of your best efforts to educate him. [This message has been edited by rasol (edited 02 February 2005).] IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 12:33 PM don't mind rasol, he is just a worn out old black radical.here in the United states we call those 'losers.' He knows that the only black Pharoahs were during the Nubian dynasty but he likes to play little games. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 12:45 PM well you cant tell me menes and dzoser are not black , do you really see them as non black IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 12:51 PM the general oponion is that the Nubian dynasty is the only black dynasty. the statues of rahotep and his wife give us a sharper view of what those people looked like. IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 01:00 PM S. Mohammad, Is moron the key word in your vocabulary? You can do better than that. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 01:01 PM this is about about the predynastic and dynastic population how could 99 percent of the pharoahs in the dynastic and old kingdom pharoahs be black but the population wasnt? im asking your opinion, are you saying menes and djoser arent black/ a simple yes or no thats all im asking IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 01:09 PM no, they were not black. IP: Logged
fromashes_rise Member Posts: 71 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 02 February 2005 01:13 PM well your clearly beleiving what you want too, basically your saying black people in ae are white, that is just ridiculous im black i look a bit like djoser, but to you i am not black. IP: Logged
Horemheb Member Posts: 1427 Registered: Jan 2004	posted 02 February 2005 01:15 PM so does Yassar Arafat fromashes. If you have to inject race into your scholarship Nubia is where you should spend your time. IP: Logged
Thought2 Member Posts: 1368 Registered: May 2004	posted 03 February 2005 01:07 AM quote: Originally posted by Evil Euro: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You're the king of the Afronuts! M35 was spread by Neolithic [b]Caucasoids from the Near East, and sickle cell entered Europe indirectly via pre-historic Caucasoids from North Africa. The only Negroes ever to set foot in Europe were slaves. I know you desperately want to be associated with the great civilizations of the Mediterranean basin, because you're so envious of them and ashamed of your tribal roots. But your people are nothing more than West African barbarians. That's all they ever were, and that's all they ever will be. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth.[/B] Thought Re-Posts the Question that Evil Euro Has Avoided: Evil Euro, before we can take this debate to its logical conclusion we need you to define your terms. Please tell us specifically what a "Caucasoid" and "Negroid" are in a scientific sense? IP: Logged
Thought2 Member Posts: 1368 Registered: May 2004	posted 03 February 2005 01:24 AM quote: Originally posted by rasol: translation: add hyperbole to flame the discussion. [like something Professor Horemheb would do], and hope they don't realise that he is attempting to insult his own Southern European ancestry, and not anyone else's. Thought Writes: The "Medi-Centrists" have gone off the deep end. : ) IP: Logged
Thought2 Member Posts: 1368 Registered: May 2004	posted 03 February 2005 01:30 AM Thought Posts: Biological Relations of Egyptian and Eastern Mediterranean Populations during Pre-Dynastic and Dynastic Times J. Lawrence Angel Journal of Human Evolution (1972) 1, 307 - 313 "...one can identify NEGROID (Ethiopic or Bushmanoid?) traits of nose and prognathism appearing in natufian hunters (McCown, 1939) and in Anatolian and MACEDONIAN first farmers (Angel, 1972), probably FROM NUBIA (Anderson, 1969) via the unknown predecessors of Badarians..." IP: Logged
Roy_2k5 Member Posts: 211 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 03 February 2005 07:21 AM quote: Originally posted by Horemheb: so does Yassar Arafat fromashes. If you have to inject race into your scholarship Nubia is where you should spend your time. Dumb Blind Child. Does Yasser Arafat look Caucasian? IP: Logged
Evil Euro Member Posts: 298 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 03 February 2005 07:58 AM quote: Originally posted by rasol: translation: total panic. Translation: Can't win a debate so attempt to psychoanalyze those who can. quote: * knowing M35 originated in Africa among the direct ancestors of the Oromo/Somali/Borano. Three groups who speak Afro-Asiatic languages and are paternally unrelated to Niger-Congo speakers. quote: * knowing that the skeletal remains of ancient East Africans are somatically distinct from Europeans. Distinct from all modern races, including Black Africans. quote: * knowing that genetically, M35 did not reach Europe for some 20,000 years after its Black [sic] African origin 20,000 years during which its carriers evolved fully Caucasoid phenotypes in Eurasia, just as previous OOA waves did. quote: translation: refuse to even say Benin sickle cell, indeed pronounce "Benin sickle cell" causasoid as well Translation: Descendants of slaves can't read. Show me where I claimed sickle cell is Caucasoid. What I said was that it entered Europe indirectly through Caucasoids. This is a fact: "The consensus is that the gene was introduced into Sicily and Southern Italy from Northern Africa through the trans-Saharan trade routes, or, alternatively, by means of the Greek colonisation...." (Russo-Mancuso et al., Haematologica, 1998) And as I've explained to your dumb black ass time and again, large-scale admixture isn't required to account for the gene's presence, since it expands due to environmental pressures. Theoretically, a single black person can transmit it to a whole population of North African Caucasoids, and a single North African can then transmit it to a whole Southern European population. And since Northern Europeans have mixed with Southern Europeans, they too could have sickle cell. The reason they don't is that their environmental conditions haven't called for it to be passed on: IP: Logged

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