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King_Scorpion
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posted 23 July 2004 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for King_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know she doesn't have a direct connection to Ancient Egypt but I'm sure if she ever existed as Queen of Nubia then she had to have some kind of interaction with them.

My question is this...has any evidence of her been found other than the Bible and what the native Ethiopians(I think it's them) have said?

Let's just start a discussion on her.

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ausar
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posted 23 July 2004 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People claim that they have found her existence in southern Arabia. Some scholars try to tie Maatakare-aka-Hathshepsut as her but this is very unlikely.


The so-called legend of Queen Sheba in Ethiopia is something that the Zagwe Dyansty in Aksum made up to justify their lineage connecting back to Solomon. Kebra Nagast,where the connection to Ethiopia is often aleadged, is nothing more than good political literature. She was possibly a real figure in history but like Solomon Moses or the rest good proof does not exist.

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posted 23 July 2004 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for King_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well she was a real person because there has was a temple built for her...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1082648.stm

Plus she's mentioned not just in the Bible, but in the Koran and Torah. The question is can she be connected to King Solomon?

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posted 23 July 2004 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for King_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ausar:
People claim that they have found her existence in southern Arabia. Some scholars try to tie Maatakare-aka-Hathshepsut as her but this is very unlikely.


The so-called legend of Queen Sheba in Ethiopia is something that the Zagwe Dyansty in Aksum made up to justify their lineage connecting back to Solomon. Kebra Nagast,where the connection to Ethiopia is often aleadged, is nothing more than good political literature. She was possibly a real figure in history but like Solomon Moses or the rest good proof does not exist.


Oh, and she did have a son named Menelik who established the first Ethiopian dynasty.

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posted 23 July 2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
King Scripion, that temple does not prove anything. The story about Sheba having a son by King Solomon is legend from the Kebra Nagast. Of course the Quran mentions Sheba,for most of the stories in the Quran are inspired by the Bible.

The first Ethiopian dyansty was Aksum which was not founded by Memelik.


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posted 23 July 2004 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kenndo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ausar:
People claim that they have found her existence in southern Arabia. Some scholars try to tie Maatakare-aka-Hathshepsut as her but this is very unlikely.


The so-called legend of Queen Sheba in Ethiopia is something that the Zagwe Dyansty in Aksum made up to justify their lineage connecting back to Solomon. Kebra Nagast,where the connection to Ethiopia is often aleadged, is nothing more than good political literature. She was possibly a real figure in history but like Solomon Moses or the rest good proof does not exist.



YES,you are right,to say the queen of sheba ruled in axum and sheba,nubia was a different region and the greeks,and romans called it ethiopia because they could not really say kush.modern day ethiopa is a different state,and ancient ethiopa would really be nubia and the sudan and axum would be modern day ethiopia,and sheba would be yemen.

[This message has been edited by kenndo (edited 23 July 2004).]

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posted 23 July 2004 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[YES,you are right,to say the queen of sheba ruled in axum and sheba,nubia was a different region and the greeks,and romans called it ethiopia because they could not really say kush.modern day ethiopa is a different state,and ancient ethiopa would really be nubia and the sudan and axum would be modern day ethiopia,and sheba would be yemen.]

People don't realize that racist white scholars use the Sheba stories to usurp Aksum from being an an African civlization. We know from the archaeological evidence that Aksumite architecture,culture,and language was completely Kushic in origin. Southern Arabians from Yemen did not colonize nor found ancient Aksum. Some have even suggested the Aksumite stela was inspired by Merotic architecture. Either way Aksum was an African creation.


The early people of southern Arabia were not the same racial stock as the northern Arabs. Most like the modern day southern tribes like the Hadara are closely related to the people from the Horn of Africa.

Sheba is a legend and not a real person.

African people need to stop playing into lost Hebrew stuff because it just robs indigenous Africans of historical accomplishments.


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posted 24 July 2004 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kenndo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ausar:
[YES,you are right,to say the queen of sheba ruled in axum and sheba,nubia was a different region and the greeks,and romans called it ethiopia because they could not really say kush.modern day ethiopa is a different state,and ancient ethiopa would really be nubia and the sudan and axum would be modern day ethiopia,and sheba would be yemen.]

People don't realize that racist white scholars use the Sheba stories to usurp Aksum from being an an African civlization. We know from the archaeological evidence that Aksumite architecture,culture,and language was completely Kushic in origin. Southern Arabians from Yemen did not colonize nor found ancient Aksum. Some have even suggested the Aksumite stela was inspired by Merotic architecture. Either way Aksum was an African creation.


The early people of southern Arabia were not the same racial stock as the northern Arabs. Most like the modern day southern tribes like the Hadara are closely related to the people from the Horn of Africa.

Sheba is a legend and not a real person.

African people need to stop playing into lost Hebrew stuff because it just robs indigenous Africans of historical accomplishments.



I am tried too of some african folks saying they are from the hebrew nation.I WOULD like us to focus on nations that were clear black nations The so-called queen of sheba would be makada if she ever existed.They did found a tomb in axum that does DATE to that period,but makada would be black african if she existed.I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK more into this.

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posted 24 July 2004 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for King_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ausar:
[YES,you are right,to say the queen of sheba ruled in axum and sheba,nubia was a different region and the greeks,and romans called it ethiopia because they could not really say kush.modern day ethiopa is a different state,and ancient ethiopa would really be nubia and the sudan and axum would be modern day ethiopia,and sheba would be yemen.]

People don't realize that racist white scholars use the Sheba stories to usurp Aksum from being an an African civlization. We know from the archaeological evidence that Aksumite architecture,culture,and language was completely Kushic in origin. Southern Arabians from Yemen did not colonize nor found ancient Aksum. Some have even suggested the Aksumite stela was inspired by Merotic architecture. Either way Aksum was an African creation.


The early people of southern Arabia were not the same racial stock as the northern Arabs. Most like the modern day southern tribes like the Hadara are closely related to the people from the Horn of Africa.

Sheba is a legend and not a real person.

African people need to stop playing into lost Hebrew stuff because it just robs indigenous Africans of historical accomplishments.


Hold on, according to legend the Queen was African. Remember in ancient days, Yemen looked a little different than it does now.

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