posted 23 July 2004 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by trexmaster:
Okay, I noticed that many of the local forummers here argue that ancient Egypt is an "African" culture. I accept that many of the Kemetians were Negroid or mulatto, and I also agree that there is some African influence on AE. But, how exactly is Egypt "African" in the same sense of, say, the Masai or Wolof. Please give a detailed explanation.

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Simple. Ancient Egypt's language is African. their culture is African. When we say "African" we mean it was created and forged on African soil, therefore Egyptian culture is just as African as the Masai, because its indigenous to the continent and not imported. Egypt's people are biologically African, meaning their origins cannot be found squarely on the African continent. Modern egypt is Arabized culturally, just like those dumb "Sudanese Arabs" but biologically they are still African for the most part, despite immigrations into the country by non-African peoples.

posted 23 July 2004 11:09 AM            

1. circumcision rites as coming of age rituals[still pratices in rural parts of Egypt]

2.ancestor whorship very important[although does exist in other culture for the most part is central to African though]

3. divine kingship and concept of the rainmaker king[found in many other parts of North-Eastern Africa as well as Inner Africa]

4.The concept of the shadow as an extension of the body[in other African cultures the shadow takes on a personality of it's own]

posted 23 July 2004 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by ausar:
What made Egyptian an African culture is the following:

1. circumcision rites as coming of age rituals[still pratices in rural parts of Egypt]

2.ancestor whorship very important[although does exist in other culture for the most part is central to African though]

3. divine kingship and concept of the rainmaker king[found in many other parts of North-Eastern Africa as well as Inner Africa]

4.The concept of the shadow as an extension of the body[in other African cultures the shadow takes on a personality of it's own]

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posted 23 July 2004 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by ausar:

3. divine kingship and concept of the rainmaker king[found in many other parts of North-Eastern Africa as well as Inner Africa]

4.The concept of the shadow as an extension of the body[in other African cultures the shadow takes on a personality of it's own]

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Hi Ausar and all,

I would like to know more about these points. Could you perhaps elaborate in a new thread? Sources would be great, too. I don't want to usurp the topic here, but these points were too intriguing to pass up.

posted 23 July 2004 03:20 PM            

The shawdow concept is found in many parts of Africa including inner Africa. The ancient Kemetians believe the shadow was born with a person,and that it was a personea all of it's own. When Khnum molded humanity from the potter's wheel he also created the shadow.

Check out a book called Egypt in Africa by Theodore Celenko that details more than I can the connections.

posted 23 July 2004 03:33 PM            

The following is called the execration ritual. The AE would make a clay or wax model of a person intending them harm--which was directed primarily at enemies.

Similar traditions exist in modern rural Egypt where a person made a model of another person to instanly kill the person. Only severe cases are done.