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sciencesailor Member Posts: 170 |
posted 05 March 2004 01:31 PM
  
Mr Mooly ElDin Thanks a lot for everyword in your informative/decent& mature reply. I think you are a physican. If your reply showed up earlier, you could have saved me from the aggressive comments on my elaborations and there could have been no need for that debate which eventually forced me to withdraw regretfully and apologizing to everybody who had read my post. I am not critical of taking from the West whatever useful and modern, I myself know verywell that my present physical fitness comes from the influence of the American culture on me. I have just finished from my almost daily running (about 4 Km) at Semoha Club at the age of 56, while most of my colleauges at this or younger age suffer from high blood pressure and absence of any physical fitness (heavy smokers/ cant taste food without a thick layer of Fats etc). I know very well that in the big/major urban communities of Egypt there is some influence of the Western world on us, look at the way the youngsters are dressed, what they listen to in music, what movies they watch through TV/CDs/Video tapes, while in the rural communities where the bulk of the Egyptian population resides there could be the unchanged/difficult to change original Egyptian culture (where there is still females circumsicion as you mentioned). I am applying the wise rule you and others above had mentioned: do whatever please you and your partner as long as you dont commit any harmful act or something that religion forbids. I was in need of confirmation to what the religion had stated regarding oral sex and I got it. Wish you comment on the elaboration of the Gentleman from America (I think) above who mentioned that the cervix could be hurt by the frequent hitting of largesized men. This what I understood from his statement , I might misunderstood what he mentioned , so please correct me if I were wrong. I know that the remaining years of my sexual activity could be little in number, but I do care to save my wife any danger. She is very dear to me and my love of her is stronger every day. She reads a lot in her profession (Engineering) and out of this only a piece of Koran daily and Barid El Gommaha weekly in Al Ahram. So I have to read whatever I find about women's health to advice her with whatever could save her health-troubles later. I repeat my thanks/appreciation for your kind reply. IP: Logged |
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Mooly El Din Member Posts: 282 |
posted 05 March 2004 02:56 PM
Thank you very much for the nice words. Sorry for not engagaing earlier in this interesting discussion, but i was travelling. Before anything I want to tell you that I am a woman (32 Y) and I am Egyptian. My speciality is sexual health, I overseeing some research/clinical trials directly related to the cancer of the cervix and other work on sexual behaviour. That is why i know about the subject of the discussion. Ok as for our question on risk factors associated to the cancer of the cervix, I have mentioned most of the risk factors and sexual performance or size of the sexual organs are not among the risk factors. Cheers IP: Logged |
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katrina Member Posts: 642 |
posted 08 March 2004 09:18 PM
delete [This message has been edited by katrina (edited 23 May 2004).] IP: Logged |
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homesick1 Member Posts: 61 |
posted 08 March 2004 09:24 PM
quote: OUCH. IP: Logged |
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sciencesailor Member Posts: 170 |
posted 09 March 2004 09:19 AM
To: Only: Ms Mooly ElDin/ Ms Katrina I had three missions to the States, the last one was in 1995. I remember that the Americans (better not to generalize: some Ams) in public transportation / parks / even when they part on their way out of the classroom, do kiss each other on the mouth lips. Massaging could be that often as in movies but I have not seen it in reality in/outdoors. As to practicing oral sex in Egypt, present/past, there is no evidence that our great Ancient Egyptians had left for us temple drawings showing they did it. I think they were very introverted regarding sex. Look at the Greek monuments and you will find the sexual organs, males/females, were admirely shown in natural sizes. i did see in Luxor a drawing of a man (God) with his penis in erection with extraordinary length. The tourist guide told me it is the God of reproduction! Ladies, I am sure if a bold data collector went to where the Egyptian "Ibn El Balad" lives in the poor areas of our major cities and asked if he, Ibn El Balad, uses his mouth with the sexual organs of his wife down there between her legs; his reply would have been: Why, am I a dog?. I lived my childhood and most of my younger adulthood there and I had no surveys done available to me but I expect this answer. Wish you Mooly to consider such a survey if you are capable of decision making just to measure these kinds of trends. I expect the answer of Ibn El Balad now is different from that above. They watch sattelites by cables/pay cards at their homes/cafees. I am not against what the religion did not forbid (oral sex) and it is not disgusting to me or find it against my pride as a man from the orient, all I hope: is there any kind of speciallized institutions measuring the change in the sexual attitudes among the Egyptian population as a result of exposure to the nudity/sexual intercourses in the Western Sattelite TV movies/programs? Salam. PS. cared very much not to be open/offending/sick/----etc. Hope I managed not to get any ladies angry again.. IP: Logged |
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katrina Member Posts: 642 |
posted 10 March 2004 01:23 AM
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 417 |
posted 10 March 2004 05:16 AM
SS, if you are so concerned and disguisted about how "Western people" show each other's affection and love then just stay away from it, don't arrive in the States etc. In fact many Egyptian people are way younger than you are and have a different understanding. Again, two people - one male and one female - should do whatever they want to do as long as both agree on it and they don't get the attention of on-lookers. While I was living in Egypt I swear I haven't seen one Egyptian couple kissing each other on the street, in a cafe shop or discotheque. SS, get over this thread now, everything is said and done. IP: Logged |
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sciencesailor Member Posts: 170 |
posted 10 March 2004 08:07 AM
Still waiting for a comment from Ms Mooly El Din, Where are you my savior? When I was in the States in 1977 as a visiting research chemist at a great university - UT at Austin - I went to a barber shop to have my hair cut. While waiting for my turn, I noticed the presence of several Playboy issues. I and also a child (about 5 yrs old)with his father sitting next to me went into every issue of the Playboy magazine at that shop, the father was not concerned at all while his kid was looking through the Playboy! At theatres where movies that rated "R" were shown, I noticed "regularly" that parents have their children with them seeing complete nudity/sexual intercourse in these "R" rated movies. I do not generalize, I know that a child (12 yrs) at a smalltown USA was suspended from school because he had a Playboy magazine with him and caught seeing it with his classmates. (source: Internet 3 weeks ago). ladies I am not perfect I did not claim to be a saint. It was very delightful experience to me to gather diverse info about a single topic by just PC pushbuttons, this is the magic of the Internet, I love it and will stay using it regardless of the insults of apparently persons with little education compared to mine. It started with scientific news about oral sex could be related to mouth cancer. I asked for input: religious/social/medical. Is this a crime? May be If I didnot ask for religous input in particular no one (western)could have been furious to me. Ms Katrina, I expected you might give me references to read in about the sexual attitudes of the Ancient Egyptians as you mentioned some of their inventions in birth control devices. Before expecting this, I searched the Internet and found nothing, so remains the textbooks. If you can calm down and ease your emotions against me and provide such references you already have, I still can thank you and forgive your insults. If you enter my office you will find a frame having a certificate that I was/still am proud of, saying " Dr. --- is a member of the American Chemical Society" I do not know from where / how you deduced the impression that I consider everything coming from the West is evil?! Also, the West has had problems with Pornography and learned by experience how to control/limit such negative impacts of Pornography on the Western societies. We here are naive or a newcomer into watching pornography free, I repeat Free, at the comfort of our homes through Sattellites. I know in my social circle there are frictions between the same family members as what is permissible and not permissible to watch from the sattelites. Is there any advice/help from any concerned institution in Egypt about this issue? I as Egyptian think it should be taken care of. Ms Tigerlilly: I prefer not to say a word. I replied on Katrina as she might help with the sources of the info she claimed to have. It seems you are interested in this thread that I created to the extent you opened the first page still looking for anything new then you look in the second page read everything then decide to reply. Your reply: Go to Hell SS though I love to "read" your thread! Is their contradictory here? Still wishing to learn from you Tiggerlilly if you can teach me any thing you have "read" about. Salam. IP: Logged |
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Mooly El Din Member Posts: 282 |
posted 10 March 2004 08:26 AM
I would like to help, but do not know how I have commented on the medical part regarding oral sex as for a my personal view, I think that having oral sex or not is a decision that is left to the couple. From where it has originated as a sexual practice, I simply do not care and I do not think it is from the West! IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 417 |
posted 10 March 2004 08:40 AM
SS why you are with a topic like that on this ES forum? And then you insult US as "apparently persons with little education compared to mine". I don't have anything else to say to you. [This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 10 March 2004).] IP: Logged |
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sciencesailor Member Posts: 170 |
posted 11 March 2004 04:16 PM
East is the East West is the West They have been apart & they will stay so. Apparently, better say evidently, whoever said these words was a wise humanbeing. The World thinks that the Internet has turned its inhabitants into a one solid Global community. Wrong, the cultural prejudices do exist/prevail. The same old human errors: If you are different in the way you think/behave/believe in you are not accepted. You should copy us with every detail: our positive achievements and our weaknesses as well because we are Right and you are Wrong. IP: Logged |
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akshar Member Posts: 864 |
posted 11 March 2004 04:54 PM
SS you are sick and so ignorant. check the ostracon from pharonic tims and you will find loads of evidence that various sexual practices were about in ancient times. I find you aib and haram and you bring Islam into disrepute with your constant posts about sex on a board that is supposed to help people discover Egypt. You are disgusting and if you never post again that won't be to soon for me. When ever I see your posts I know it will be something offensive. My husband would never n a million years post what you have. Please find yourself a porn site which is more suitable to your style and leave ES to us that love and enjoy Egypt respectfully. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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secret agent Junior Member Posts: 15 |
posted 11 April 2004 04:10 PM
hi all, it seems to me that nowadays everything good is related to cancer...life is lethal anyhow. IP: Logged |
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sciencesailor Member Posts: 170 |
posted 12 April 2004 01:14 PM
SecretAgent It is not completely lethal world. You may see it as if driving through a narrow road across a deep water lake, any right or left drift You/I/We might lose our lives. I drink , for example, 50/50 tap/bottled water as I know the harmful effects of each. We deal with things we know a lot about and there are other things we still are blind in seeing how they hurt us. To you and any curious reader of this post, I managed to translate from Arabic a briefing of an article written by me and was published in an Egyptian Newspaper. Please, Children and certain Adults, you may find this briefing offensive, so stop and click on "Back" button: Title: "Technology and Destruction of Humanbeings" The 3rd. World communities think that the humanbeings in the 1st. World have a great value that all the existing establishments there never think of violating, not to mention manipulate/destruct their own lives. It is true that in these advanced countries, the people have political rights exceeding those at the 3rd World but there is another type of opression - Technology - which is indirectly used in the 1st. World. In here, I will show two examples of this technological opression: The first example is about "Deodorants". Before introducing the deodorants as products for sale, the market research advised to show TV ads which make the public get digusted on smelling natural odor of the human body. The next step was to concentrate on the products. Professor Wilson Key at one of the American Universities whose speciality is in the Behavioral effects of TV ads analyzed these Deodorants and found them Phenols and Aldhydes as the reactive ingredients while the rest is just a volatile solvent. Phenols and Aldhydes have anesthetic effect on the smelling cells of the human nose which eventually with prolonged and excessive use of deodorants "destroy" the smelling ability of the user. The experiments with lab rats proved that they lost their sexual desire as a result of living in artificial atmoshere (sprayed with deodorants). Prof Key concluded that the sexual odor of female rats is a fundemental element in initiating the male desire to have sexual activity. He added that Humanbeings may face similar effects as those in lab rats. he elaborated that every human female has her specific/characteristic sexual odor which is secreted by her sexual glands. The human male get used to his female's sexual odor and it even becomes connected in his subconscience to the joy of sex. One of Napoleon's letters to Gosphine: I will arrive in a week, in the meantime do not bath; ie. Prof Key used this example to show how the Emperor prefered and even loved his wife's natural odor! The 2nd example and I will shorten it as much as I can, is about skin care lotions. Prof Key analyzed these lotions and found them made of Proteins and Carbohydrates in a volatile solvent. These ingredients were mixed, as we do to have ommelet eggs, so that it takes the same color and viscosity of the man's seminal fluid, something very pleasing to the females in particular (the targeted customers). As the solvent evaporates the proteins and carbohydrates preceipitate covering/insulating the skin from breathing and taking oxygen to stay alife! Author: ScienceSailor (My real name instead), Published in El Shaab, an Egyptian Newspaper, Cairo on Feb 21, 1989 Ps. No one in my work or family called me weirdo or go to a Porno magazine and that was in Egypt in 1989 (13 yeares ago)! Insead, they liked the article and considered it a daring one! IP: Logged |
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katrina Member Posts: 642 |
posted 12 April 2004 02:20 PM
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kadijah2000 Junior Member Posts: 25 |
posted 04 August 2004 06:42 PM
quote: Cunting bloody arse! you must use islam to satisfy all your disgusting ways! IP: Logged |
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